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On Oct 5, 2:09 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Telamon" wrote in message

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"David Eduardo" wrote:

"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
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What Radio claims,...and I can speak with some clarity, here, having
been involved in the process for a good chunk of my career, even up to
this last spring,...is that what it does is dicated to by the public,
based on focus groups, perceptual research, and music tests in front of
listeners. And that advertisers and listeners respond positively. What
Radio doesn't tell you, is that the focus groups are highly selected
from
'desirable' listeners, as defined by advertiser requirements and
expectations,

Now that is a generalization that my fit one company, but in every
experience I have, with a dozen research companies I have delt with, as
well
as our own, such a statement is, if not an exaggeration, a lie.

Most listener research is done to best serve an existing format. So one
picks mostly one's own listeners.... and generally, those who listen a
lot
(so they will know the music or format or hosts or whatever) and tries to
find what will serve them better. Some secondary listeners are picked...
those who may listen more to another station, but who also have enough
interest in our station to know about the music or the programming.

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Well I must admit that sure does sound like you to pick a small group of
people that will reinforce your own thinking. Since it serves your
purpose I don't expect you to see the incestuous nature of what you
promote.

Of course, your rabid statement does not explain why we have the top two
radio stations in Los Angeles, and have for nearly all of the last 10 years
or why we have a limited coverage class A FM that does so well it is in the
top 5 or 6 in 25-53 in LA among over 60 local stations.\

No, it is crass commercialism that explains this.

Next...


Of course, a fool like you who even questions Bob Orban and then is nasty to
him can be expected to be oblivious to reality.

Why should Bob Orban be questioned? Are you his little slave boy or
something?

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On Oct 5, 9:53 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:


KSCA #1 LA, has been #1 or #2 12+ and 25-54 since Spring, 1997.

KLVE #2 in LA, has been #1 or #2 in 25-54 (all that matters) 90% of books
from 1995 till today.

KRCD (simulcast) Top 10 in 26-54 most of last 8 years.

I'm very happy for them. Too bad this isn't relevant to anything here,
though.




Of course, a fool like you who even questions Bob Orban and then is nasty
to
him can be expected to be oblivious to reality.

Of course a fool like you would expect Bob Orban to just show up in the
news group all of a sudden.

He is a regular, if not frequent, poster to ba.broadcast over the years, and
always has something interesting or positive to post about.

And I suspect most of his posts in ba.broadcast are on topic. It's a
pity he won't keep his posts to RRS on topic.

The reason he
has showed up in the shortwave group is because of crossposting, not a
sudden interest in shortwave.

And why did you show up here? Was that also the result of
crossposting? If so, perhaps you should figure out how to correct it.
Surely Univision has a tech person somewhere who could help you.

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On Oct 6, 12:51 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Telamon" wrote in message

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"David Eduardo" wrote:

KSCA #1 LA, has been #1 or #2 12+ and 25-54 since Spring, 1997.

KLVE #2 in LA, has been #1 or #2 in 25-54 (all that matters) 90% of books
from 1995 till today.

KRCD (simulcast) Top 10 in 26-54 most of last 8 years.

Well , I'm in that age group and don't listen to those stations so there
must be something wrong with your numbers.

You are not in the LA radio market, either. The numbers come right from
Arbitron; the 12+ top line numbers are on the Arbitron website. Or atwww.rr.comunder "ratings. "

He is a regular, if not frequent, poster to ba.broadcast over the
years, and always has something interesting or positive to post
about. The reason he has showed up in the shortwave group is because
of crossposting, not a sudden interest in shortwave.

You and Bob seem to share the same reading comprehension problems.

You obviously have no idea who you are talking about when you refer to Bob
Orban that way.

Are you and Bob the same person? If not, are you lovers? What's going
on here?

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On Oct 6, 2:41 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Telamon" wrote in message

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"David Eduardo" wrote:

I know the name. I just don't believe the poster boy using his name is
Orban.

Go ask on ba.broadcast if it is really him.

Oh, now there's a failsafe way to verify someone's identify. Just go
to a usenet group and ask! Lol

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KRCD (simulcast) Top 10 in 26-54 most of last 8 years.

Telamon wrote:

Well , I'm in that age group and don't listen to those stations so there
must be something wrong with your numbers.

Amazing, just amazing!

Your above statement speaks volumes about you. "Gee, you didn't include
the great Telamonkey, so something must be wrong with your numbers".

IMHO, in addition to being a hypocrite, you can now add narcissistic and
egotistical to your list of "credentials".

You state there must be something wrong with the study because YOU, one
person, does not listen. The world revolves around Telamonkey.
Telamonkey didn't listen, so let's throw out the entire study.

Yeah, right...

Gad, what a spectacular ego!

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On Oct 6, 12:51 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Telamon" wrote in message

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"David Eduardo" wrote:

KSCA #1 LA, has been #1 or #2 12+ and 25-54 since Spring, 1997.

KLVE #2 in LA, has been #1 or #2 in 25-54 (all that matters) 90% of
books
from 1995 till today.

KRCD (simulcast) Top 10 in 26-54 most of last 8 years.

Well , I'm in that age group and don't listen to those stations so
there
must be something wrong with your numbers.

You are not in the LA radio market, either. The numbers come right from
Arbitron; the 12+ top line numbers are on the Arbitron website. Or
atwww.rr.comunder "ratings. "

Why should we believe you when you say this? You've lied about
everything a person can lie about in this group, and then you act
surprised when no one believes you. Please note that, as I've said
before, you now have the credibility of a 13 year old's myspace page.
No one is going to believe you (except perhaps a 13 year old or two).

www.arbitron.com Top Line Ratings.

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"dxAce" wrote in message
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Did you and Bob attend Harvard together?

I'm wondering if Bob had an amateur license just like Edweenie's!

You have no idea who you are talking about. Google "Optimod" and see what
you get. Google "Bob Orban" and look again.

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David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
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Did you and Bob attend Harvard together?

I'm wondering if Bob had an amateur license just like Edweenie's!

You have no idea who you are talking about. Google "Optimod" and see what
you get. Google "Bob Orban" and look again.

Actually, I was talking about you, retard!

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On Oct 6, 11:49 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message

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On Oct 6, 12:51 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Telamon" wrote in message

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In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

KSCA #1 LA, has been #1 or #2 12+ and 25-54 since Spring, 1997.

KLVE #2 in LA, has been #1 or #2 in 25-54 (all that matters) 90% of
books
from 1995 till today.

KRCD (simulcast) Top 10 in 26-54 most of last 8 years.

Well , I'm in that age group and don't listen to those stations so
there
must be something wrong with your numbers.

You are not in the LA radio market, either. The numbers come right from
Arbitron; the 12+ top line numbers are on the Arbitron website. Or
atwww.rr.comunder"ratings. "

Why should we believe you when you say this? You've lied about
everything a person can lie about in this group, and then you act
surprised when no one believes you. Please note that, as I've said
before, you now have the credibility of a 13 year old's myspace page.
No one is going to believe you (except perhaps a 13 year old or two).

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You failed to answer the question. Again.

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On Oct 6, 11:50 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"dxAce" wrote in message

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Did you and Bob attend Harvard together?

I'm wondering if Bob had an amateur license just like Edweenie's!

You have no idea who you are talking about. Google "Optimod" and see what
you get. Google "Bob Orban" and look again.

I just googled both. So what?