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On Oct 1, 6:02?pm, dxAce wrote:
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"Left in the dark"


"Local ratings show that plenty of Pocono listeners tune in to AM 770.
But about two weeks ago, WABC radio became impossible to hear in the
Poconos after sundown. And although the daytime signal is still
strong, WABC it is not likely to he heard here in the dark again. What
happened. An advancement in broadcast technology. WABC flipped the
switch for HD Radio. Something many stations are doing with, so far,
little notice from the public."


http://www.poconorecord.com/apps/pbc...20071001/LOCAL...


Just like Edweenie, IBOC sucks.


Interesting that the daytime signal can be heard, but no nighttime
signal - anyway, I emailed the article to WABC, not that it matters...


Phil Boyce, PD of WABC, which just had the second highest book in the last 7
years, already said it did not matter.


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On Oct 1, 8:34?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
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On Oct 1, 6:02?pm, dxAce wrote:
wrote:
"Left in the dark"


"Local ratings show that plenty of Pocono listeners tune in to AM 770.
But about two weeks ago, WABC radio became impossible to hear in the
Poconos after sundown. And although the daytime signal is still
strong, WABC it is not likely to he heard here in the dark again. What
happened. An advancement in broadcast technology. WABC flipped the
switch for HD Radio. Something many stations are doing with, so far,
little notice from the public."


http://www.poconorecord.com/apps/pbc...20071001/LOCAL...


Just like Edweenie, IBOC sucks.


Interesting that the daytime signal can be heard, but no nighttime
signal - anyway, I emailed the article to WABC, not that it matters...


Phil Boyce, PD of WABC, which just had the second highest book in the last 7
years, already said it did not matter.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Good - he has just ****ed off all of the "don't matter" listeners in
the Poconos! No wonder, your arrogant industry is headed into the
toilet!

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On Oct 1, 8:34?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
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ps.com...





On Oct 1, 6:02?pm, dxAce wrote:
wrote:
"Left in the dark"


"Local ratings show that plenty of Pocono listeners tune in to AM
770.
But about two weeks ago, WABC radio became impossible to hear in the
Poconos after sundown. And although the daytime signal is still
strong, WABC it is not likely to he heard here in the dark again.
What
happened. An advancement in broadcast technology. WABC flipped the
switch for HD Radio. Something many stations are doing with, so far,
little notice from the public."


http://www.poconorecord.com/apps/pbc...20071001/LOCAL...


Just like Edweenie, IBOC sucks.


Interesting that the daytime signal can be heard, but no nighttime
signal - anyway, I emailed the article to WABC, not that it matters...


Phil Boyce, PD of WABC, which just had the second highest book in the
last 7
years, already said it did not matter.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Good - he has just ****ed off all of the "don't matter" listeners in
the Poconos! No wonder, your arrogant industry is headed into the
toilet!


The shame of it is that the media companies that own the AM stations don't
really know who listens and from where. So much for interesting and
expanding program base.

So much for the Clear Channel concept which would be very useful in the case
of REAL NATIONAL EMERGENCY. Considering that most of the AM superstations
can cover at least half the country if not more, I wonder what they will do
if TSHTF.

I'm certainly not waiting for it or hoping but you know, I find it ironic
that they are going to **** can AM clear channel broadcasting. Especially in
the light of Hurricane Katrina and every other disaster that has hit the
country over the years. I wonder if these useless *******s have ever
considered the national emergency scenario.

Like the case in New Orleans where some of the best information transfers
and information clearinghouse came from WWL 870. Which to Mr. Dwardo can be
heard over a great deal of the country. I'm sure that doesn't matter as
profits reign over the consumer or people in general.

Interestingly, they use statistics that say that their listenership base is
this or that. However, I wonder if they really know how many outside of the
major metros listen to night time AM. I don't care what some so called book
of statistics says because statistics can say anything you want it to.

However, I find it blatantly stupid to sabotage one of the greatest means of
long distance communication we have in this nation which is the clear
channel broadcasting system.

I guess it helps the media conglomerates and the government in that they
can centalize information further. That way if TSHTF no one knows when the
satellite dishes take a hit from Chinese space missiles or some other
country using an EMP device.



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Billy Smith wrote:
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Interesting that the daytime signal can be heard, but no nighttime
signal - anyway, I emailed the article to WABC, not that it matters


Daytime can be heard because the sun limits propagation to 100
miles. But during the nighttime, then all the various stations from
~1000 miles away start overlapping one another.



So much for the Clear Channel concept which would be very useful in the case
of REAL NATIONAL EMERGENCY. Considering that most of the AM superstations
can cover at least half the country if not more, I wonder what they will do
if TSHTF.



Most television cable are buried under the ground. Thus they are
protected, and they will continue operating, and people will watch CNN
or FOX News or MSNBC.

Most americans wouldn't even think to get the old AM radio out (if
they even have an AM radio... my latest Ipod is FM only).



I guess it helps the media conglomerates and the government in that
they can centalize information further. That way if TSHTF no one
knows when the satellite dishes take a hit from Chinese space
missiles or some other country using an EMP device.


You've been watching too much Jericho.

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In article .com,
wrote:

Billy Smith wrote:
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Interesting that the daytime signal can be heard, but no nighttime
signal - anyway, I emailed the article to WABC, not that it matters


Daytime can be heard because the sun limits propagation to 100
miles. But during the nighttime, then all the various stations from
~1000 miles away start overlapping one another.


Well, that's all very interesting Mr. Digital engineer so how come I can
hear stations much further away than 100 miles in the daytime then?

So much for the Clear Channel concept which would be very useful in the case
of REAL NATIONAL EMERGENCY. Considering that most of the AM superstations
can cover at least half the country if not more, I wonder what they will do
if TSHTF.



Most television cable are buried under the ground. Thus they are
protected, and they will continue operating, and people will watch CNN
or FOX News or MSNBC.


Well, that's all very interesting Mr. Digital engineer so how come some
TV signals are received over the air first or received from a satellite
first.

Most americans wouldn't even think to get the old AM radio out (if
they even have an AM radio... my latest Ipod is FM only).


I'd get started on building that bunker if I was you.

I guess it helps the media conglomerates and the government in that
they can centalize information further. That way if TSHTF no one
knows when the satellite dishes take a hit from Chinese space
missiles or some other country using an EMP device.

You've been watching too much Jericho.

You have been watching to much TV period.

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"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article .com,
wrote:

Billy Smith wrote:
wrote in message

Interesting that the daytime signal can be heard, but no nighttime
signal - anyway, I emailed the article to WABC, not that it
matters


Daytime can be heard because the sun limits propagation to 100
miles. But during the nighttime, then all the various stations from
~1000 miles away start overlapping one another.


Well, that's all very interesting Mr. Digital engineer so how come I can
hear stations much further away than 100 miles in the daytime then?

So much for the Clear Channel concept which would be very useful in the
case
of REAL NATIONAL EMERGENCY. Considering that most of the AM
superstations
can cover at least half the country if not more, I wonder what they
will do
if TSHTF.



Most television cable are buried under the ground. Thus they are
protected, and they will continue operating, and people will watch CNN
or FOX News or MSNBC.


Well, that's all very interesting Mr. Digital engineer so how come some
TV signals are received over the air first or received from a satellite
first.


That, plus though the cable (or often, fiber optics) is underground in many
(not all by a LONG ways, mostly only in downtown and newer suburban locales
that already have buried utilities), the headend equipment is not.. nor is
said equipment, in most cases, backed up by generator. This is because if
the headend power goes down, it's most likely that the power grid in the
area of the headend is ALSO down, so the signal doesn't make it beyond the
headend..

Most americans wouldn't even think to get the old AM radio out (if
they even have an AM radio... my latest Ipod is FM only).


I guess he doesn't realize that MOST AMERICANS are not youngsters.. there
are a lot of us boomers around, and as of right now, we're still the largest
segment of the population, and will be for some time yet, since only the
fringe of us are starting to die off now, and we have a while to go (Korean
War boomers are only now getting into their mid-50's).


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On Oct 3, 5:19 am, "Brenda Ann" wrote:

I guess he doesn't realize that MOST AMERICANS are not youngsters.. there
are a lot of us boomers around, and as of right now, we're still the largest
segment of the population, and will be for some time yet...





Every time I hear the word "baby boomer" I think parasite, because
that's what most of you will be doing. Sucking money out of younger
people's pockets like damned leeches (to pay for your retirement and
death-avoidance care).

I'm saving every penny I can, because I know the Baby Boomer Tax will
soon be raised to ~70%, and my take-home pay will be just about nil.

Why don't you live off your OWN money,
instead of sucking it out of your
children and grandchildren's wallets

(i.e. constantly demanding we give you)
(free SS and death-avoidance care).

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On Oct 1, 8:34?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
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On Oct 1, 6:02?pm, dxAce wrote:
wrote:
"Left in the dark"


"Local ratings show that plenty of Pocono listeners tune in to AM
770.
But about two weeks ago, WABC radio became impossible to hear in the
Poconos after sundown. And although the daytime signal is still
strong, WABC it is not likely to he heard here in the dark again.
What
happened. An advancement in broadcast technology. WABC flipped the
switch for HD Radio. Something many stations are doing with, so far,
little notice from the public."


http://www.poconorecord.com/apps/pbc...20071001/LOCAL...


Just like Edweenie, IBOC sucks.


Interesting that the daytime signal can be heard, but no nighttime
signal - anyway, I emailed the article to WABC, not that it matters...


Phil Boyce, PD of WABC, which just had the second highest book in the
last 7
years, already said it did not matter.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Good - he has just ****ed off all of the "don't matter" listeners in
the Poconos! No wonder, your arrogant industry is headed into the
toilet!


I wonder what the people will do for information if the worst case scenario
happens and we have to rely on the FM broadcast network which is laughable
at best. I guess after getting slammed by terrorists, we can all find a talk
show or some blatantly stupid program to listen to instead of things that
really matter like the safety of our country. It is about like the 2003
power outage in NY and a lot of the Eastern parts of the country. I wonder
if Dwardo has a plan if something like that happens on a larger scale. I'm
sure all those set top satellite boxes, TVs, and all will be usable in a
power outage of any magnitude.

I guess when we burn those bridges to analog AM clear channel broadcasting,
we can rely on the HD Radio to carry us through. I hope it never happens but
with the state of the world these days, it would be best to be prepared. Not
to mention keeping an SW radio around with batteries, solar power, etc. You
just don't know. But I am sure that Frackelton has thought this out prior to
his rah rah pronouncement of the greatness of HD Radio.



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David Eduardo wrote:

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ps.com...
On Oct 1, 6:02?pm, dxAce wrote:
wrote:
"Left in the dark"

"Local ratings show that plenty of Pocono listeners tune in to AM 770.
But about two weeks ago, WABC radio became impossible to hear in the
Poconos after sundown. And although the daytime signal is still
strong, WABC it is not likely to he heard here in the dark again. What
happened. An advancement in broadcast technology. WABC flipped the
switch for HD Radio. Something many stations are doing with, so far,
little notice from the public."

http://www.poconorecord.com/apps/pbc...20071001/LOCAL...

Just like Edweenie, IBOC sucks.


Interesting that the daytime signal can be heard, but no nighttime
signal - anyway, I emailed the article to WABC, not that it matters...


Phil Boyce, PD of WABC, which just had the second highest book in the last 7
years, already said it did not matter.


Book? Edweenie, you're stuck on stupid and locked on dumb.

And, your lecture is getting kinda old.


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On Oct 1, 8:34 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:

Phil Boyce, PD of WABC, which just had the second highest book in the last 7
years, already said it did not matter.


Wonder if he's changed his mind. Sunday night and Monday night, WABC
didn't have IBOC on.

It's been on during the day. Let's see what happens tonight.

I have little respect for Boyce. This man's theory of "nothing
outside weekday drivetime matters" has led this once great station to
become a clearinghouse for dull syndicated bird droppings (Laura
Ingraham comes to mind) and lots of infomercials during the weekend
and overnight hours.

This never happened under the previous PD, John Mainelli, who had
taken the station to 24 hours of live programming, the bulk of it
being local -- even on the weekends! During his tenure, AM 77 was the
#1 rated talk station in the entire COUNTRY. No small feat for an AM
station.

Stephanie Weil
New York City, USA



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