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David Eduardo[_4_] October 11th 07 11:43 PM

AM news/talk/sports is alive-and-well, you piece-of-crap!
 

"IBOCcrock" wrote in message
ups.com...
"The Last Days of AM Radio?"

"Sports, all-news and talk programming continue to draw large
audiences to the AM band in most big cities..."

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/rawfi..._am_radio.html

I saw your post on RI against Savage's, Eduardo!


Itīs not against Savage.... it'against people who build unviable AM stations
and the fact that AM is dying anyway. News talk is moving to FM, with
stations in Detroit and Indianapolis doing it just this week.



Steve October 12th 07 02:03 AM

AM news/talk/sports is alive-and-well, you piece-of-crap!
 
On Oct 11, 6:43 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"IBOCcrock" wrote in message

ups.com...

"The Last Days of AM Radio?"


"Sports, all-news and talk programming continue to draw large
audiences to the AM band in most big cities..."


http://blog.washingtonpost.com/rawfi...st_days_of_am_...


I saw your post on RI against Savage's, Eduardo!


Itīs not against Savage.... it'against people who build unviable AM stations
and the fact that AM is dying anyway. News talk is moving to FM, with
stations in Detroit and Indianapolis doing it just this week.


You're assuming here that AM IBOC will continue to advance. It might
not, in which case AM might stand at least a slim chance of survival.


IBOCcrock October 12th 07 03:12 AM

AM news/talk/sports is alive-and-well, you piece-of-crap!
 
On Oct 11, 6:43?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"IBOCcrock" wrote in message

ups.com...

"The Last Days of AM Radio?"


"Sports, all-news and talk programming continue to draw large
audiences to the AM band in most big cities..."


http://blog.washingtonpost.com/rawfi...st_days_of_am_...


I saw your post on RI against Savage's, Eduardo!


It s not against Savage.... it'against people who build unviable AM stations
and the fact that AM is dying anyway. News talk is moving to FM, with
stations in Detroit and Indianapolis doing it just this week.


"Stars line up for 'Simpsons'"

"Radio ratings: Clear Channel's WLW-AM (700) was the big winner in
spring quarter Arbitron ratings, taking first place with all adults in
morning, midday, afternoon and evening ratings."

http://www.enquirer.com/editions/200...ne_up_for.html

WHO-AM News Talk Information 9.7 7.2 9.9 10.6
WLW-AM News Talk Information 8.9 9.9 11.2 9.8
WSB-AM News Talk Information 9.3 8.7 9.2 8.2
WGN-AM News Talk Information 5.3 5.5 5.8 5.4
WBBM-AM All News 4.2 4.1 4.4 4.6
WLS-AM News Talk Information 4.1 3.7 3.7 3.8
WTAM-AM News Talk Information 7.3 8.0 6.5 7.3
WJR-AM News Talk Information 4.8 4.9 5.3 5.3
KMOX-AM News Talk Information 8.4 7.7 8.2 8.4
KSL-AM News Talk Information 5.9 6.7 8.6 7.7

http://www.arbitron.com/radio_stations/home.htm

IBOC boosters declare AM is dead, so that they can justify AM-HD's
destruction.


IBOCcrock October 12th 07 03:25 AM

AM news/talk/sports is alive-and-well, you piece-of-crap!
 
On Oct 11, 6:43?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"IBOCcrock" wrote in message

ups.com...

"The Last Days of AM Radio?"


"Sports, all-news and talk programming continue to draw large
audiences to the AM band in most big cities..."


http://blog.washingtonpost.com/rawfi...st_days_of_am_...


I saw your post on RI against Savage's, Eduardo!


It s not against Savage.... it'against people who build unviable AM stations
and the fact that AM is dying anyway. News talk is moving to FM, with
stations in Detroit and Indianapolis doing it just this week.


It is the music FMs that are screwed, not the 50kw AM news/talk/sports
stations.


David Eduardo[_4_] October 12th 07 05:32 AM

AM news/talk/sports is alive-and-well, you piece-of-crap!
 

"Steve" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Oct 11, 6:43 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
Itīs not against Savage.... it'against people who build unviable AM
stations
and the fact that AM is dying anyway. News talk is moving to FM, with
stations in Detroit and Indianapolis doing it just this week.


You're assuming here that AM IBOC will continue to advance. It might
not, in which case AM might stand at least a slim chance of survival.

To the contrary. If there proves to be no way to make AM sound better to the
undeer.45 group, AM is over. The band may remain, with niche formats and
ethnic and religious offerings, but it wil capture maybe 4% to 5% of all
listening, and very little revenue.



David Eduardo[_4_] October 12th 07 06:43 AM

AM news/talk/sports is alive-and-well, you piece-of-crap!
 

"IBOCcrock" wrote in message
ups.com...

WGN-AM News Talk Information 5.3 5.5 5.8 5.4


Let's debunk this crock of crap you keep posting... the station is 21st in
25-54. All the listeners are over 55, and sales are dropping seriously. This
is a station in serious trouble, as it has nothing to sell.



David Eduardo[_4_] October 12th 07 06:45 AM

AM news/talk/sports is alive-and-well, you piece-of-crap!
 

"IBOCcrock" wrote in message
ps.com...

It s not against Savage.... it'against people who build unviable AM
stations
and the fact that AM is dying anyway. News talk is moving to FM, with
stations in Detroit and Indianapolis doing it just this week.


It is the music FMs that are screwed, not the 50kw AM news/talk/sports
stations.


That is, then why, they are moving to FM, with two top 50 market stations
moving to FM just this week.



RHF October 12th 07 08:17 AM

AM news/talk/sports is alive-and-well, you piece-of-crap!
 
On Oct 11, 10:43 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"IBOCcrock" wrote in message

ups.com...

WGN-AM News Talk Information 5.3 5.5 5.8 5.4


- Let's debunk this crock of crap you keep posting... the station
- is 21st in 25-54. All the listeners are over 55, and sales are
- dropping seriously. This is a station in serious trouble, as it
- has nothing to sell.

Geritol and Metamucil need Good Old Customers

-and- Just-for-Men is looking for a few Grey-Backs too !

wheni die bury me my am/mw radio ~ RHF
{ ps - no batteries required :o}

IBOCcrock October 12th 07 12:08 PM

AM news/talk/sports is alive-and-well, you piece-of-crap!
 
On Oct 12, 1:43 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"IBOCcrock" wrote in message

ups.com...

WGN-AM News Talk Information 5.3 5.5 5.8 5.4


Let's debunk this crock of crap you keep posting... the station is 21st in
25-54. All the listeners are over 55, and sales are dropping seriously. This
is a station in serious trouble, as it has nothing to sell.


"News/Talk/Sports:Radio's Last Bastion"

"Music FMs of any flavor are utterly screwed... Right now -- while FMs
are losing the music audience to new media -- satellite radio is
offering more News/Talk/Sports programming than we can fit on AM
radio..."

http://ftp.media.radcity.net/ZMST/daily/IS031005.htm

"The Last Days of AM Radio?"

"Sports, all-news and talk programming continue to draw large
audiences to the AM band in most big cities..."

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/rawfi..._am_radio.html

"News/Talk/Sports Tops Radio Formats, Interep Analysis Reveals"

"The latest share numbers place the News/Talk/Sports format at the
top, pulling in an average of 17 percent of listenership among persons
age 12-plus, based on Arbitron figures for total radio listening in 92
continuously measured metros. That share number is even higher than
levels seen last spring, when the war in Iraq began. According to
Interep, more stations than ever are programming News/Talk."

http://www.thenewsletterplace.com/05...9/article4.htm


IBOCcrock October 12th 07 12:18 PM

AM news/talk/sports is alive-and-well, you piece-of-crap!
 
On Oct 12, 12:32 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message

oups.com...
On Oct 11, 6:43 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:

Itīs not against Savage.... it'against people who build unviable AM
stations
and the fact that AM is dying anyway. News talk is moving to FM, with
stations in Detroit and Indianapolis doing it just this week.


You're assuming here that AM IBOC will continue to advance. It might
not, in which case AM might stand at least a slim chance of survival.

To the contrary. If there proves to be no way to make AM sound better to the
undeer.45 group, AM is over. The band may remain, with niche formats and
ethnic and religious offerings, but it wil capture maybe 4% to 5% of all
listening, and very little revenue.


It's the programming stupid, not the audio quality:

"Creating the Future of Radio"

"After all, digital sound quality is not what's driving Satellite and
"digital" per se is not a consumer benefit. The text services are
interesting, but will not be unique to HD Radio. The ability to record
our stations only matters if we offer content worth recording. And
when every station becomes several stations we are buying more shelf
space, but it's on an infinitely larger and more competitive shelf."

http://www.hear2.com/2005/04/creating_the_fu.html

Ever wonder, why 15 million listeners are willing to spend $15/month
on Satellite Radio, and that the majority of Ford's now have factory-
installed Satellite Radio, that Ford's premium models (which
constitute 40% of its sales) will have STANDARD Sync, that Hyundai
gave up on HD Radio and now have standard Satellite Radio.


David Eduardo[_4_] October 12th 07 03:14 PM

AM news/talk/sports is alive-and-well, you piece-of-crap!
 

"David" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 22:43:26 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


"IBOCcrock" wrote in message
roups.com...
"The Last Days of AM Radio?"

"Sports, all-news and talk programming continue to draw large
audiences to the AM band in most big cities..."

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/rawfi..._am_radio.html

I saw your post on RI against Savage's, Eduardo!


Itīs not against Savage.... it'against people who build unviable AM
stations
and the fact that AM is dying anyway. News talk is moving to FM, with
stations in Detroit and Indianapolis doing it just this week.

Maybe down in the flatlands. FM don't work in the mountains.


Funny, I owned FMs in Ecuador in the Sierra, and they worked just fine
except for small pockets that did not warrant boosters. Of course, you may
think the hills you live among are more significant that the Andes, where
some of my transmitters were at heights approaching 4000 meters, but that's
your problem.



David October 12th 07 03:27 PM

AM news/talk/sports is alive-and-well, you piece-of-crap!
 
On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 22:43:26 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


"IBOCcrock" wrote in message
oups.com...
"The Last Days of AM Radio?"

"Sports, all-news and talk programming continue to draw large
audiences to the AM band in most big cities..."

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/rawfi..._am_radio.html

I saw your post on RI against Savage's, Eduardo!


Itīs not against Savage.... it'against people who build unviable AM stations
and the fact that AM is dying anyway. News talk is moving to FM, with
stations in Detroit and Indianapolis doing it just this week.

Maybe down in the flatlands. FM don't work in the mountains.

dxAce October 12th 07 05:05 PM

AM news/talk/sports is alive-and-well, you piece-of-crap!
 


David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Frackelton Gleason, decided to lie yet another day whilst POSING as
'Eduardo',
and wrote:

"David" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 22:43:26 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


"IBOCcrock" wrote in message
roups.com...
"The Last Days of AM Radio?"

"Sports, all-news and talk programming continue to draw large
audiences to the AM band in most big cities..."

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/rawfi..._am_radio.html

I saw your post on RI against Savage's, Eduardo!

Itīs not against Savage.... it'against people who build unviable AM
stations
and the fact that AM is dying anyway. News talk is moving to FM, with
stations in Detroit and Indianapolis doing it just this week.

Maybe down in the flatlands. FM don't work in the mountains.

Funny, I owned FMs in Ecuador in the Sierra, and they worked just fine
except for small pockets that did not warrant boosters.


You have no proof that you owned anything, Edweenie!


Contact the Ecuadorian Association of Broadcasters... AER.


Are they willing to lie for you like the Mexican villagers?



David Eduardo[_4_] October 12th 07 07:23 PM

AM news/talk/sports is alive-and-well, you piece-of-crap!
 

"SFTV_troy" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Oct 11, 11:32 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:



If AM stations slowly die out, I assume the AM band would get
reassigned to some other purpose. The 1.7 megahertz wide channel
would be perfect for a single DAB multiplex carrying ~10 separate
channels.


First, we are talking a decade or so... while AM is nearly dead for those
under 45 or 50, there is still listening in the senior generation. Add to
that the ethnic, religious and brokered operations and there are plenty of
AMs that make some money... they just don't compete for listenership. As
long as the mail order ministries exist, AM will exist also.



IBOCcrock October 12th 07 07:33 PM

AM news/talk/sports is alive-and-well, you piece-of-crap!
 
On Oct 12, 2:23?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"SFTV_troy" wrote in message

oups.com...

On Oct 11, 11:32 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:


If AM stations slowly die out, I assume the AM band would get
reassigned to some other purpose. The 1.7 megahertz wide channel
would be perfect for a single DAB multiplex carrying ~10 separate
channels.


First, we are talking a decade or so... while AM is nearly dead for those
under 45 or 50, there is still listening in the senior generation. Add to
that the ethnic, religious and brokered operations and there are plenty of
AMs that make some money... they just don't compete for listenership. As
long as the mail order ministries exist, AM will exist also.


Music related FMs are screwed from iPods, cell phones, Satellite Radio
- AM news/talk/sports have no competition, thus news/talk/sports on
the 50kw AM stations is alive-and-well.


IBOCcrock October 12th 07 07:34 PM

AM news/talk/sports is alive-and-well, you piece-of-crap!
 
On Oct 12, 2:23?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"SFTV_troy" wrote in message

oups.com...

On Oct 11, 11:32 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:


If AM stations slowly die out, I assume the AM band would get
reassigned to some other purpose. The 1.7 megahertz wide channel
would be perfect for a single DAB multiplex carrying ~10 separate
channels.


First, we are talking a decade or so... while AM is nearly dead for those
under 45 or 50, there is still listening in the senior generation. Add to
that the ethnic, religious and brokered operations and there are plenty of
AMs that make some money... they just don't compete for listenership. As
long as the mail order ministries exist, AM will exist also.


"News/Talk/Sports:Radio's Last Bastion"

"Music FMs of any flavor are utterly screwed... Right now -- while
FMs
are losing the music audience to new media -- satellite radio is
offering more News/Talk/Sports programming than we can fit on AM
radio..."

http://ftp.media.radcity.net/ZMST/daily/IS031005.htm

"The Last Days of AM Radio?"

"Sports, all-news and talk programming continue to draw large
audiences to the AM band in most big cities..."

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/rawfi...st_days_of_am_...

"News/Talk/Sports Tops Radio Formats, Interep Analysis Reveals"

"The latest share numbers place the News/Talk/Sports format at the
top, pulling in an average of 17 percent of listenership among
persons
age 12-plus, based on Arbitron figures for total radio listening in
92
continuously measured metros. That share number is even higher than
levels seen last spring, when the war in Iraq began. According to
Interep, more stations than ever are programming News/Talk."

http://www.thenewsletterplace.com/05...9/article4.htm


IBOCcrock October 12th 07 07:37 PM

AM news/talk/sports is alive-and-well, you piece-of-crap!
 
On Oct 12, 2:23?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"SFTV_troy" wrote in message

oups.com...

On Oct 11, 11:32 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:


If AM stations slowly die out, I assume the AM band would get
reassigned to some other purpose. The 1.7 megahertz wide channel
would be perfect for a single DAB multiplex carrying ~10 separate
channels.


First, we are talking a decade or so... while AM is nearly dead for those
under 45 or 50, there is still listening in the senior generation. Add to
that the ethnic, religious and brokered operations and there are plenty of
AMs that make some money... they just don't compete for listenership. As
long as the mail order ministries exist, AM will exist also.


I bet you are a habitual masturbator.


RHF October 13th 07 01:52 AM

AM news/talk/sports is alive-and-well, you piece-of-crap!
 
On Oct 12, 11:23 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"SFTV_troy" wrote in message

oups.com...

On Oct 11, 11:32 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:


If AM stations slowly die out, I assume the AM band would get
reassigned to some other purpose. The 1.7 megahertz wide channel
would be perfect for a single DAB multiplex carrying ~10 separate
channels.


First, we are talking a decade or so... while AM is nearly dead for those
under 45 or 50, there is still listening in the senior generation. Add to
that the ethnic, religious and brokered operations and there are plenty of
AMs that make some money... they just don't compete for listenership.


- As long as the mail order ministries exist, AM will exist also.

Praise The Lord - It's the B-I N-G-O for Jesus Hour !
Where ? - Right here on your AM'en Radio !
God Is Calling - Will You Listen . . .
Someone is Ble$$ed Every Hour.
Will It Be You ?

RHF October 13th 07 01:57 AM

AM news/talk/sports is alive-and-well, you piece-of-crap!
 
On Oct 12, 11:37 am, IBOCcrock wrote:
On Oct 12, 2:23?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:





"SFTV_troy" wrote in message


roups.com...


On Oct 11, 11:32 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:


If AM stations slowly die out, I assume the AM band would get
reassigned to some other purpose. The 1.7 megahertz wide channel
would be perfect for a single DAB multiplex carrying ~10 separate
channels.


First, we are talking a decade or so... while AM is nearly dead for those
under 45 or 50, there is still listening in the senior generation. Add to
that the ethnic, religious and brokered operations and there are plenty of
AMs that make some money... they just don't compete for listenership. As
long as the mail order ministries exist, AM will exist also.



- I bet you are a habitual masturbator.

IBOC 'Cock' - Once again please do not Post your
Voyeur Sexual Fantasies to this Newsgroup. ~ RHF

SFTV_troy October 13th 07 05:38 PM

AM news/talk/sports is alive-and-well, you piece-of-crap!
 

David Eduardo wrote:
On Oct 11, 11:32 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:

To the contrary. If there proves to be no way to make AM sound better to the
undeer.45 group, AM is over. The band may remain, with niche formats and
ethnic and religious offerings, but it wil capture maybe 4% to 5% of all
listening, and very little revenue.


First, we are talking a decade or so... while AM is nearly dead for those
under 45 or 50, there is still listening in the senior generation. Add to
that the ethnic, religious and brokered operations and there are plenty of
AMs that make some money... they just don't compete for listenership. As
long as the mail order ministries exist, AM will exist also.



Hmmm. I'd rather see the FCC re-purpose the band for a DAB multiplex,
and then reassign the local AMs to DAB.


Steve October 13th 07 07:23 PM

AM news/talk/sports is alive-and-well, you piece-of-crap!
 
On Oct 13, 12:38 pm, SFTV_troy wrote:
David Eduardo wrote:
On Oct 11, 11:32 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:


To the contrary. If there proves to be no way to make AM sound better to the
undeer.45 group, AM is over. The band may remain, with niche formats and
ethnic and religious offerings, but it wil capture maybe 4% to 5% of all
listening, and very little revenue.


First, we are talking a decade or so... while AM is nearly dead for those
under 45 or 50, there is still listening in the senior generation. Add to
that the ethnic, religious and brokered operations and there are plenty of
AMs that make some money... they just don't compete for listenership. As
long as the mail order ministries exist, AM will exist also.


Hmmm. I'd rather see the FCC re-purpose the band for a DAB multiplex,
and then reassign the local AMs to DAB.


What have you been listening to on shortwave lately?


IBOCcrock October 13th 07 08:04 PM

AM news/talk/sports is alive-and-well, you piece-of-crap!
 
On Oct 12, 8:57?pm, RHF wrote:
On Oct 12, 11:37 am, IBOCcrock wrote:





On Oct 12, 2:23?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:


"SFTV_troy" wrote in message


roups.com...


On Oct 11, 11:32 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:


If AM stations slowly die out, I assume the AM band would get
reassigned to some other purpose. The 1.7 megahertz wide channel
would be perfect for a single DAB multiplex carrying ~10 separate
channels.


First, we are talking a decade or so... while AM is nearly dead for those
under 45 or 50, there is still listening in the senior generation. Add to
that the ethnic, religious and brokered operations and there are plenty of
AMs that make some money... they just don't compete for listenership. As
long as the mail order ministries exist, AM will exist also.


- I bet you are a habitual masturbator.

IBOC 'Cock' - Once again please do not Post your
Voyeur Sexual Fantasies to this Newsgroup. ~ RHF
.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


You too?


dxAce October 13th 07 11:40 PM

AM news/talk/sports is alive-and-well, you piece-of-crap!
 


David wrote:

On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 14:14:41 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


"David" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 22:43:26 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


"IBOCcrock" wrote in message
groups.com...
"The Last Days of AM Radio?"

"Sports, all-news and talk programming continue to draw large
audiences to the AM band in most big cities..."

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/rawfi..._am_radio.html

I saw your post on RI against Savage's, Eduardo!

Itīs not against Savage.... it'against people who build unviable AM
stations
and the fact that AM is dying anyway. News talk is moving to FM, with
stations in Detroit and Indianapolis doing it just this week.

Maybe down in the flatlands. FM don't work in the mountains.


Funny, I owned FMs in Ecuador in the Sierra, and they worked just fine
except for small pockets that did not warrant boosters. Of course, you may
think the hills you live among are more significant that the Andes, where
some of my transmitters were at heights approaching 4000 meters, but that's
your problem.

There are no mountains that high around here.


Edweenie is that high. So high that he'll lie about actually owning radio stations.

Mount Wilson is
slightly below 2,000m.



David October 14th 07 12:37 AM

AM news/talk/sports is alive-and-well, you piece-of-crap!
 
On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 14:14:41 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


"David" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 22:43:26 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


"IBOCcrock" wrote in message
groups.com...
"The Last Days of AM Radio?"

"Sports, all-news and talk programming continue to draw large
audiences to the AM band in most big cities..."

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/rawfi..._am_radio.html

I saw your post on RI against Savage's, Eduardo!

Itīs not against Savage.... it'against people who build unviable AM
stations
and the fact that AM is dying anyway. News talk is moving to FM, with
stations in Detroit and Indianapolis doing it just this week.

Maybe down in the flatlands. FM don't work in the mountains.


Funny, I owned FMs in Ecuador in the Sierra, and they worked just fine
except for small pockets that did not warrant boosters. Of course, you may
think the hills you live among are more significant that the Andes, where
some of my transmitters were at heights approaching 4000 meters, but that's
your problem.

There are no mountains that high around here. Mount Wilson is
slightly below 2,000m.

Telamon October 14th 07 02:06 AM

AM news/talk/sports is alive-and-well, you piece-of-crap!
 
In article ,
David wrote:

On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 14:14:41 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


"David" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 22:43:26 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


"IBOCcrock" wrote in message
groups.com...
"The Last Days of AM Radio?"

"Sports, all-news and talk programming continue to draw large
audiences to the AM band in most big cities..."

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/rawfi...ays_of_am_radi
o.html

I saw your post on RI against Savage's, Eduardo!

Itīs not against Savage.... it'against people who build unviable AM
stations
and the fact that AM is dying anyway. News talk is moving to FM, with
stations in Detroit and Indianapolis doing it just this week.

Maybe down in the flatlands. FM don't work in the mountains.


Funny, I owned FMs in Ecuador in the Sierra, and they worked just fine
except for small pockets that did not warrant boosters. Of course, you may
think the hills you live among are more significant that the Andes, where
some of my transmitters were at heights approaching 4000 meters, but that's
your problem.

There are no mountains that high around here. Mount Wilson is
slightly below 2,000m.


From Wikipedia
San Gorgonio Mountain (or Mount San Gorgonio, or Old Greyback) is the
highest peak in Southern California. It is located in the San Bernardino
Mountains, 27 mi (42 km) east of the city of San Bernardino and 12 miles
(19 km) north-northeast of San Gorgonio Pass. It lies in the San
Gorgonio Wilderness, part of the San Bernardino National Forest. Spanish
missionaries in the area during the early 1800s named the peak after
Saint Gorgonius.


San Gorgonio Mountain, California 11,499 feet, 3505 meters

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

David October 14th 07 03:17 PM

AM news/talk/sports is alive-and-well, you piece-of-crap!
 
On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 01:06:13 GMT, Telamon
wrote:


There are no mountains that high around here. Mount Wilson is
slightly below 2,000m.


From Wikipedia
San Gorgonio Mountain (or Mount San Gorgonio, or Old Greyback) is the
highest peak in Southern California. It is located in the San Bernardino
Mountains, 27 mi (42 km) east of the city of San Bernardino and 12 miles
(19 km) north-northeast of San Gorgonio Pass. It lies in the San
Gorgonio Wilderness, part of the San Bernardino National Forest. Spanish
missionaries in the area during the early 1800s named the peak after
Saint Gorgonius.


San Gorgonio Mountain, California 11,499 feet, 3505 meters


That's over 100 miles from me.

Telamon October 14th 07 07:35 PM

AM news/talk/sports is alive-and-well, you piece-of-crap!
 
In article ,
David wrote:

On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 01:06:13 GMT, Telamon
wrote:


There are no mountains that high around here. Mount Wilson is
slightly below 2,000m.


From Wikipedia
San Gorgonio Mountain (or Mount San Gorgonio, or Old Greyback) is the
highest peak in Southern California. It is located in the San Bernardino
Mountains, 27 mi (42 km) east of the city of San Bernardino and 12 miles
(19 km) north-northeast of San Gorgonio Pass. It lies in the San
Gorgonio Wilderness, part of the San Bernardino National Forest. Spanish
missionaries in the area during the early 1800s named the peak after
Saint Gorgonius.


San Gorgonio Mountain, California 11,499 feet, 3505 meters


That's over 100 miles from me.


So? It is within daytime radio broadcast distance of you.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

David October 15th 07 03:31 PM

AM news/talk/sports is alive-and-well, you piece-of-crap!
 
On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 18:35:48 GMT, Telamon
wrote:

In article ,
David wrote:

On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 01:06:13 GMT, Telamon
wrote:


There are no mountains that high around here. Mount Wilson is
slightly below 2,000m.

From Wikipedia
San Gorgonio Mountain (or Mount San Gorgonio, or Old Greyback) is the
highest peak in Southern California. It is located in the San Bernardino
Mountains, 27 mi (42 km) east of the city of San Bernardino and 12 miles
(19 km) north-northeast of San Gorgonio Pass. It lies in the San
Gorgonio Wilderness, part of the San Bernardino National Forest. Spanish
missionaries in the area during the early 1800s named the peak after
Saint Gorgonius.


San Gorgonio Mountain, California 11,499 feet, 3505 meters


That's over 100 miles from me.


So? It is within daytime radio broadcast distance of you.


That makes no sense. Cucamonga Peak might work.

Telamon October 16th 07 02:37 AM

AM news/talk/sports is alive-and-well, you piece-of-crap!
 
In article ,
David wrote:

On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 18:35:48 GMT, Telamon
wrote:

In article ,
David wrote:

On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 01:06:13 GMT, Telamon
wrote:


There are no mountains that high around here. Mount Wilson is
slightly below 2,000m.

From Wikipedia
San Gorgonio Mountain (or Mount San Gorgonio, or Old Greyback) is the
highest peak in Southern California. It is located in the San Bernardino
Mountains, 27 mi (42 km) east of the city of San Bernardino and 12 miles
(19 km) north-northeast of San Gorgonio Pass. It lies in the San
Gorgonio Wilderness, part of the San Bernardino National Forest. Spanish
missionaries in the area during the early 1800s named the peak after
Saint Gorgonius.


San Gorgonio Mountain, California 11,499 feet, 3505 meters

That's over 100 miles from me.


So? It is within daytime radio broadcast distance of you.


That makes no sense. Cucamonga Peak might work.


What part of 100 miles do you not understand?

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

David October 16th 07 02:56 PM

AM news/talk/sports is alive-and-well, you piece-of-crap!
 
On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 01:37:45 GMT, Telamon
wrote:


That's over 100 miles from me.

So? It is within daytime radio broadcast distance of you.


That makes no sense. Cucamonga Peak might work.


What part of 100 miles do you not understand?


I understand 100 miles. I can get San Diego FMs all day long. Just
nothing from Mount Wilson, 23 miles away.

[email protected] October 16th 07 07:08 PM

AM news/talk/sports is alive-and-well, you piece-of-crap!
 
On Oct 11, 9:25 pm, IBOCcrock wrote:


It is the music FMs that are screwed, not the 50kw AM news/talk/sports
stations.


The "HD" AM-BC crowd just don't get it..
AM radio is doing better than they think it is. I listen to AM more
than I do FM. Lots more...
I like listening to the talking heads, call in shows, etc on AM radio.
If I want music, I plop in a CD... I don't listen to much music on
the FM band, because they usually don't play what I want to hear.
I'd rather choose myself via a CD disk, and I bet many others are
the same way. Either that, or they use sat radio..
Very few people could care less about the audio quality of the
AM band. It's quite good enough for the usual purposes.
Another thing... I drive on the interstates a lot.. And I usually
listen to AM, because of the increased range. I can take my
usual 450 mile trip to Studio O, and listen to two stations the
whole trip. Both are 50k clear channels. Attempts to spice
up the audio quality will be pretty much a waste of time.
Being most of the programming is speech, who cares about
a roll off of high frequencies that aren't needed anyway...
A lot of truckers still listen to AM. A lot of WBAP's commercials
are still aimed at truckers as an example.
Most truckers couldn't care a whit if the talking head in
question was high fidelity, when that higher fidelity is overkill for
the talking head programming.
They would prefer the signal they have stays stable for a
couple of hours or more.. IE: clear channels..
I view HD-AM in a similar light as BPL... If they can't use the
technique without trashing other license holders of the
said spectrum, they should cease and desist such behavior.
It does bother me that some car companies are already
pushing these "HD" radios. It's like subsidizing the mess
in a way.
It's all about making the $$$ these days, not what people
want or need. Or should I say "hopes" of making big $$$...
I'm starting to think the head honchos at the FCC are all
surely going brain dead. They sure bend over easy for anyone
with delusions of high tech grandeur and big $$$ to be
made.



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