On Oct 20, 8:02 am, dxAce wrote:
David wrote:
On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 21:58:54 GMT, Telamon
wrote:

In article .com,
Ross Archer wrote:

On Oct 13, 6:39 pm, wrote:
www.devilfinder.com Scandals of Al Gore

Be sure to scroll down and click on the softwar.net site at the
devilfinder thingy.
(Nobel peace prize my arse! Nowadays only Morons and Idiots win the
Nobel prize,,,,, Gore,Arafat,Jimmah Carter, etc)

Solar Flares and Volcanos (do some research on Solar Flares and
Volcanos) (Mars is warming up too) contribute far more to global warming
than humans ever have, and there is the Van Oort Cloud too.On a scale of
0 to whatever, humans have contrbuted almost Zero to global warming.Rest
assured though, when this spate of global warming is done with, there
will be global cooling.Back in the 1950s and 1960s those scientist were
harping about an ice age is over the horizon.
cuhulin

The thing is, the global cooling part was never generally accepted and
was speculative.

Snip

Let me put your mind at ease. The human contribution to atmospheric CO2
is in the 1% to 2% range compared to natural processes that add and
subtract. No brainer don't you think?

You're still going to be under water soon.

How do you define 'soon'?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Maybe 100, 1000, 10,000, 100,000, and/or 1,000,000 Years ~ RHF

On Oct 20, 8:01 am, David wrote:
On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 04:19:46 GMT, Telamon





wrote:
In article . com,
Ross Archer wrote:

On Oct 13, 1:43 am, Telamon
wrote:
In article . com,
Ross Archer wrote:

On Oct 12, 2:16 am, "Burr" wrote:
Maybe I should have voted for the SOB!!!!

from CNN
-- Former U.S. Vice President Al Gore and the U.N.'s climate change
panel
win
the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize. Details soon.

While it's certainly open to debate whether global warming falls under
the purview of a peace prize, there's no question that once it's
decided that the prize goes for that, Albert Gore Jr. is deserving of
it.

The idea that global warming is liberal bias is preposterous. Global
warming is occurring, and the majority of that warming is
anthropogenic, and this is the consensus of climate scientists. None
of this is controversial in scientific circles, or at least no more
controversial than most generally-accepted theories.

First off there is no proof that man is responsible for climate change.

There is *overwhelming* scientific evidence to this effect. Where
have you been?

I'm sorry for being so blunt, but your statement is completely
contrary to fact.

You don't know what you are talking about. There is no evidence. Get a
clue, mans contribution is insignificant compared to the processes in
nature that add and subtract the CO2 levels.

Where is the excess carbon dioxide coming from?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

The Real Causes of Climate Change -may be-

? Mount Pinatubo Ash ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Pinatubo

? Sahara Dust ?
http://www.usatoday.com/weather/walm3.htm

? China's Air Pollution Reaches U.S. Skies ?
http://www.physorg.com/news73311360.html

? Huge Dust Plumes From China Cause Changes in Climate ?
http://online.wsj.com/public/article...996069354.html

? Chinese Air Pollution Deadliest in World, Report Says ?
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...pollution.html

But Let Us All Blame The USA and The Evil Bush !

First We Must Monetize Pollution {Carbon Credits}
-Cause- Somebody's Got To Pay ! and This Process
of Monetization must Insure that the USA Pays the
Rest of the World to Clean-Up the Worlds Polllution
-because- the usa must pay, {blame the usa}
-Because- The Usa Must Pay. {Blame The Usa}
-BECAUSE- THE USA MUST PAY ! {BLAME THE USA}

the earth existed before mankind
and the earth will exist after mankind;
the age of mankind upon the earth
is but a moment in time;
the earth abides . . . ~ RHF

RHF wrote:

On Oct 20, 8:01 am, David wrote:
On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 04:19:46 GMT, Telamon





wrote:
In article . com,
Ross Archer wrote:

On Oct 13, 1:43 am, Telamon
wrote:
In article . com,
Ross Archer wrote:

On Oct 12, 2:16 am, "Burr" wrote:
Maybe I should have voted for the SOB!!!!

from CNN
-- Former U.S. Vice President Al Gore and the U.N.'s climate change
panel
win
the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize. Details soon.

While it's certainly open to debate whether global warming falls under
the purview of a peace prize, there's no question that once it's
decided that the prize goes for that, Albert Gore Jr. is deserving of
it.

The idea that global warming is liberal bias is preposterous. Global
warming is occurring, and the majority of that warming is
anthropogenic, and this is the consensus of climate scientists. None
of this is controversial in scientific circles, or at least no more
controversial than most generally-accepted theories.

First off there is no proof that man is responsible for climate change.

There is *overwhelming* scientific evidence to this effect. Where
have you been?

I'm sorry for being so blunt, but your statement is completely
contrary to fact.

You don't know what you are talking about. There is no evidence. Get a
clue, mans contribution is insignificant compared to the processes in
nature that add and subtract the CO2 levels.

Where is the excess carbon dioxide coming from?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

The Real Causes of Climate Change -may be-

? Mount Pinatubo Ash ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Pinatubo

? Sahara Dust ?
http://www.usatoday.com/weather/walm3.htm

? China's Air Pollution Reaches U.S. Skies ?
http://www.physorg.com/news73311360.html

? Huge Dust Plumes From China Cause Changes in Climate ?
http://online.wsj.com/public/article...996069354.html

? Chinese Air Pollution Deadliest in World, Report Says ?
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...pollution.html

But Let Us All Blame The USA and The Evil Bush !

First We Must Monetize Pollution {Carbon Credits}
-Cause- Somebody's Got To Pay ! and This Process
of Monetization must Insure that the USA Pays the
Rest of the World to Clean-Up the Worlds Polllution
-because- the usa must pay, {blame the usa}
-Because- The Usa Must Pay. {Blame The Usa}
-BECAUSE- THE USA MUST PAY ! {BLAME THE USA}

the earth existed before mankind
and the earth will exist after mankind;
the age of mankind upon the earth
is but a moment in time;
the earth abides . . . ~ RHF

Rickets, and other retards, believe that history began with their births.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

In article ,
David wrote:

On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 21:58:54 GMT, Telamon
wrote:

In article .com,
Ross Archer wrote:

On Oct 13, 6:39 pm, wrote:
www.devilfinder.com Scandals of Al Gore

Be sure to scroll down and click on the softwar.net site at the
devilfinder thingy.
(Nobel peace prize my arse! Nowadays only Morons and Idiots win the
Nobel prize,,,,, Gore,Arafat,Jimmah Carter, etc)

Solar Flares and Volcanos (do some research on Solar Flares and
Volcanos) (Mars is warming up too) contribute far more to global warming
than humans ever have, and there is the Van Oort Cloud too.On a scale of
0 to whatever, humans have contrbuted almost Zero to global warming.Rest
assured though, when this spate of global warming is done with, there
will be global cooling.Back in the 1950s and 1960s those scientist were
harping about an ice age is over the horizon.
cuhulin

The thing is, the global cooling part was never generally accepted and
was speculative.

Snip

Let me put your mind at ease. The human contribution to atmospheric CO2
is in the 1% to 2% range compared to natural processes that add and
subtract. No brainer don't you think?

You're still going to be under water soon.

If the sea level goes up three feet worst case I'll still be 7 feet
above sea level. Thanks anyway for your concern.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

In article ,
dxAce wrote:

RHF wrote:

On Oct 20, 8:01 am, David wrote:
On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 04:19:46 GMT, Telamon





wrote:
In article . com,
Ross Archer wrote:

On Oct 13, 1:43 am, Telamon
wrote:
In article . com,
Ross Archer wrote:

On Oct 12, 2:16 am, "Burr" wrote:
Maybe I should have voted for the SOB!!!!

from CNN
-- Former U.S. Vice President Al Gore and the U.N.'s climate
change
panel
win
the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize. Details soon.

While it's certainly open to debate whether global warming falls
under
the purview of a peace prize, there's no question that once it's
decided that the prize goes for that, Albert Gore Jr. is deserving
of
it.

The idea that global warming is liberal bias is preposterous.
Global
warming is occurring, and the majority of that warming is
anthropogenic, and this is the consensus of climate scientists.
None
of this is controversial in scientific circles, or at least no
more
controversial than most generally-accepted theories.

First off there is no proof that man is responsible for climate
change.

There is *overwhelming* scientific evidence to this effect. Where
have you been?

I'm sorry for being so blunt, but your statement is completely
contrary to fact.

You don't know what you are talking about. There is no evidence. Get a
clue, mans contribution is insignificant compared to the processes in
nature that add and subtract the CO2 levels.

Where is the excess carbon dioxide coming from?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

The Real Causes of Climate Change -may be-

? Mount Pinatubo Ash ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Pinatubo

? Sahara Dust ?
http://www.usatoday.com/weather/walm3.htm

? China's Air Pollution Reaches U.S. Skies ?
http://www.physorg.com/news73311360.html

? Huge Dust Plumes From China Cause Changes in Climate ?
http://online.wsj.com/public/article...996069354.html

? Chinese Air Pollution Deadliest in World, Report Says ?
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...pollution.html

But Let Us All Blame The USA and The Evil Bush !

First We Must Monetize Pollution {Carbon Credits}
-Cause- Somebody's Got To Pay ! and This Process
of Monetization must Insure that the USA Pays the
Rest of the World to Clean-Up the Worlds Polllution
-because- the usa must pay, {blame the usa}
-Because- The Usa Must Pay. {Blame The Usa}
-BECAUSE- THE USA MUST PAY ! {BLAME THE USA}

the earth existed before mankind
and the earth will exist after mankind;
the age of mankind upon the earth
is but a moment in time;
the earth abides . . . ~ RHF

Rickets, and other retards, believe that history began with their births.

They lack the ability to evaluate information in an independent way.

Their prejudices color their thought processes.

A good opinion is formed on a realistic reduction of available data and
is subject to new and valid information. These people put way to much
trust in someone else to provide data to them that conform to their
preexisting internal biases.

In addition they generally ignore data that is not in conformance with
their internal bias and place emphasis on data that does conform. Result
is a skewed opinion not based in reality.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon wrote:

In article ,
dxAce wrote:

RHF wrote:

On Oct 20, 8:01 am, David wrote:
On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 04:19:46 GMT, Telamon





wrote:
In article . com,
Ross Archer wrote:

On Oct 13, 1:43 am, Telamon
wrote:
In article . com,
Ross Archer wrote:

On Oct 12, 2:16 am, "Burr" wrote:
Maybe I should have voted for the SOB!!!!

from CNN
-- Former U.S. Vice President Al Gore and the U.N.'s climate
change
panel
win
the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize. Details soon.

While it's certainly open to debate whether global warming falls
under
the purview of a peace prize, there's no question that once it's
decided that the prize goes for that, Albert Gore Jr. is deserving
of
it.

The idea that global warming is liberal bias is preposterous.
Global
warming is occurring, and the majority of that warming is
anthropogenic, and this is the consensus of climate scientists.
None
of this is controversial in scientific circles, or at least no
more
controversial than most generally-accepted theories.

First off there is no proof that man is responsible for climate
change.

There is *overwhelming* scientific evidence to this effect. Where
have you been?

I'm sorry for being so blunt, but your statement is completely
contrary to fact.

You don't know what you are talking about. There is no evidence. Get a
clue, mans contribution is insignificant compared to the processes in
nature that add and subtract the CO2 levels.

Where is the excess carbon dioxide coming from?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

The Real Causes of Climate Change -may be-

? Mount Pinatubo Ash ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Pinatubo

? Sahara Dust ?
http://www.usatoday.com/weather/walm3.htm

? China's Air Pollution Reaches U.S. Skies ?
http://www.physorg.com/news73311360.html

? Huge Dust Plumes From China Cause Changes in Climate ?
http://online.wsj.com/public/article...996069354.html

? Chinese Air Pollution Deadliest in World, Report Says ?
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...pollution.html

But Let Us All Blame The USA and The Evil Bush !

First We Must Monetize Pollution {Carbon Credits}
-Cause- Somebody's Got To Pay ! and This Process
of Monetization must Insure that the USA Pays the
Rest of the World to Clean-Up the Worlds Polllution
-because- the usa must pay, {blame the usa}
-Because- The Usa Must Pay. {Blame The Usa}
-BECAUSE- THE USA MUST PAY ! {BLAME THE USA}

the earth existed before mankind
and the earth will exist after mankind;
the age of mankind upon the earth
is but a moment in time;
the earth abides . . . ~ RHF

Rickets, and other retards, believe that history began with their births.

They lack the ability to evaluate information in an independent way.

Their prejudices color their thought processes.

A good opinion is formed on a realistic reduction of available data and
is subject to new and valid information. These people put way to much
trust in someone else to provide data to them that conform to their
preexisting internal biases.

In addition they generally ignore data that is not in conformance with
their internal bias and place emphasis on data that does conform. Result
is a skewed opinion not based in reality.

Remember Y2K!

I had meant that to read, Dear Dirty Dublin.When I woked up yesterday
morning, most of that Travel channel program was done with.I reckon
Samantha Brown's travel in Dublin thangy will be on tv again
someday.There is a Dublin,Mississippi too.
www.ryans.org/ryans_music.htm
(crank your pooter bolume wide open)
cuhulin

On Oct 20, 10:59 am, Telamon
wrote:
In article ,





dxAce wrote:
RHF wrote:

On Oct 20, 8:01 am, David wrote:
On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 04:19:46 GMT, Telamon

wrote:
In article . com,
Ross Archer wrote:

On Oct 13, 1:43 am, Telamon
wrote:
In article . com,
Ross Archer wrote:

On Oct 12, 2:16 am, "Burr" wrote:
Maybe I should have voted for the SOB!!!!

from CNN
-- Former U.S. Vice President Al Gore and the U.N.'s climate
change
panel
win
the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize. Details soon.

While it's certainly open to debate whether global warming falls
under
the purview of a peace prize, there's no question that once it's
decided that the prize goes for that, Albert Gore Jr. is deserving
of
it.

The idea that global warming is liberal bias is preposterous.
Global
warming is occurring, and the majority of that warming is
anthropogenic, and this is the consensus of climate scientists.
None
of this is controversial in scientific circles, or at least no
more
controversial than most generally-accepted theories.

First off there is no proof that man is responsible for climate
change.

There is *overwhelming* scientific evidence to this effect. Where
have you been?

I'm sorry for being so blunt, but your statement is completely
contrary to fact.

You don't know what you are talking about. There is no evidence. Get a
clue, mans contribution is insignificant compared to the processes in
nature that add and subtract the CO2 levels.

Where is the excess carbon dioxide coming from?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

The Real Causes of Climate Change -may be-

? Mount Pinatubo Ash ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Pinatubo

? Sahara Dust ?
http://www.usatoday.com/weather/walm3.htm

? China's Air Pollution Reaches U.S. Skies ?
http://www.physorg.com/news73311360.html

? Huge Dust Plumes From China Cause Changes in Climate ?
http://online.wsj.com/public/article...996069354.html

? Chinese Air Pollution Deadliest in World, Report Says ?
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...china-pollutio...

But Let Us All Blame The USA and The Evil Bush !

First We Must Monetize Pollution {Carbon Credits}
-Cause- Somebody's Got To Pay ! and This Process
of Monetization must Insure that the USA Pays the
Rest of the World to Clean-Up the Worlds Polllution
-because- the usa must pay, {blame the usa}
-Because- The Usa Must Pay. {Blame The Usa}
-BECAUSE- THE USA MUST PAY ! {BLAME THE USA}

the earth existed before mankind
and the earth will exist after mankind;
the age of mankind upon the earth
is but a moment in time;
the earth abides . . . ~ RHF

Rickets, and other retards, believe that history began with their births.

They lack the ability to evaluate information in an independent way.

Their prejudices color their thought processes.

A good opinion is formed on a realistic reduction of available data and
is subject to new and valid information. These people put way to much
trust in someone else to provide data to them that conform to their
preexisting internal biases.

In addition they generally ignore data that is not in conformance with
their internal bias and place emphasis on data that does conform. Result
is a skewed opinion not based in reality.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


The Result is a Skewed Opinion* based on a 'Selective' Reality.

* Opinion -based on- Half-Truths.

In article ,
dxAce wrote:

Telamon wrote:

In article ,
dxAce wrote:

RHF wrote:

On Oct 20, 8:01 am, David wrote:
On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 04:19:46 GMT, Telamon





wrote:
In article . com,
Ross Archer wrote:

On Oct 13, 1:43 am, Telamon
wrote:
In article
. com,
Ross Archer wrote:

On Oct 12, 2:16 am, "Burr" wrote:
Maybe I should have voted for the SOB!!!!

from CNN
-- Former U.S. Vice President Al Gore and the U.N.'s climate
change
panel
win
the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize. Details soon.

While it's certainly open to debate whether global warming
falls
under
the purview of a peace prize, there's no question that once
it's
decided that the prize goes for that, Albert Gore Jr. is
deserving
of
it.

The idea that global warming is liberal bias is preposterous.
Global
warming is occurring, and the majority of that warming is
anthropogenic, and this is the consensus of climate
scientists.
None
of this is controversial in scientific circles, or at least no
more
controversial than most generally-accepted theories.

First off there is no proof that man is responsible for climate
change.

There is *overwhelming* scientific evidence to this effect. Where
have you been?

I'm sorry for being so blunt, but your statement is completely
contrary to fact.

You don't know what you are talking about. There is no evidence. Get
a
clue, mans contribution is insignificant compared to the processes
in
nature that add and subtract the CO2 levels.

Where is the excess carbon dioxide coming from?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

The Real Causes of Climate Change -may be-

? Mount Pinatubo Ash ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Pinatubo

? Sahara Dust ?
http://www.usatoday.com/weather/walm3.htm

? China's Air Pollution Reaches U.S. Skies ?
http://www.physorg.com/news73311360.html

? Huge Dust Plumes From China Cause Changes in Climate ?
http://online.wsj.com/public/article...996069354.html

? Chinese Air Pollution Deadliest in World, Report Says ?
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...na-pollution.h
tml

But Let Us All Blame The USA and The Evil Bush !

First We Must Monetize Pollution {Carbon Credits}
-Cause- Somebody's Got To Pay ! and This Process
of Monetization must Insure that the USA Pays the
Rest of the World to Clean-Up the Worlds Polllution
-because- the usa must pay, {blame the usa}
-Because- The Usa Must Pay. {Blame The Usa}
-BECAUSE- THE USA MUST PAY ! {BLAME THE USA}

the earth existed before mankind
and the earth will exist after mankind;
the age of mankind upon the earth
is but a moment in time;
the earth abides . . . ~ RHF

Rickets, and other retards, believe that history began with their births.

They lack the ability to evaluate information in an independent way.

Their prejudices color their thought processes.

A good opinion is formed on a realistic reduction of available data and
is subject to new and valid information. These people put way to much
trust in someone else to provide data to them that conform to their
preexisting internal biases.

In addition they generally ignore data that is not in conformance with
their internal bias and place emphasis on data that does conform. Result
is a skewed opinion not based in reality.

Remember Y2K!

That's a good example.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

On Oct 19, 2:58 pm, Telamon
wrote:
In article .com,
Ross Archer wrote:



On Oct 13, 6:39 pm, wrote:
www.devilfinder.com Scandals of Al Gore

Be sure to scroll down and click on the softwar.net site at the
devilfinder thingy.
(Nobel peace prize my arse! Nowadays only Morons and Idiots win the
Nobel prize,,,,, Gore,Arafat,Jimmah Carter, etc)

Solar Flares and Volcanos (do some research on Solar Flares and
Volcanos) (Mars is warming up too) contribute far more to global warming
than humans ever have, and there is the Van Oort Cloud too.On a scale of
0 to whatever, humans have contrbuted almost Zero to global warming.Rest
assured though, when this spate of global warming is done with, there
will be global cooling.Back in the 1950s and 1960s those scientist were
harping about an ice age is over the horizon.
cuhulin

The thing is, the global cooling part was never generally accepted and
was speculative.

Snip

Let me put your mind at ease. The human contribution to atmospheric CO2
is in the 1% to 2% range compared to natural processes that add and
subtract. No brainer don't you think?

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

National and international science academies and professional
societies have assessed the current scientific opinion on climate
change, in particular recent global warming. These assessments have
largely followed or endorsed the IPCC position that "An increasing
body of observations gives a collective picture of a warming world and
other changes in the climate system... There is new and stronger
evidence that most of the warming observed over the last 50 years is
attributable to human activities".[1]

This page documents scientific opinion as given by synthesis reports,
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of opinion among climate scientists. It does not document the views of
individual scientists or self-selected lists of individuals such as
petitions.

MOST OF THE WARMING OBSERVED OVER THE LAST 50 YEARS IS ATTRIBUTABLE TO
HUMAN ACTIVITIES.

I'm glad you know so much better than actual scientists.