On Nov 23, 4:23 pm, IBOCcrock wrote:

- Notice the sentence: "... At some point in the future, when the
- Commission determines there is sufficient market penetration of
- digital receivers" - that equals number of receivers puchased by the
- general public. LOL!

IBOC Crock,

Review the History of FM Radio - History Repeats Itself.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_station#FM

Review the History of HDTV - Evolving History Learns
From The Past Mistakes -and- Does Not Repeat Itself.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-de...alog_ shutoff

~ RHF

On Nov 23, 8:08 pm, Steve wrote:
On Nov 23, 9:07 pm, RHF wrote:





On Nov 23, 5:21 pm, Steve wrote:

On Nov 23, 5:42 pm, RHF wrote:

On Nov 23, 11:24 am, Steve wrote:

On Nov 23, 2:28 am, RHF wrote:

On Nov 22, 7:25 pm, "
wrote:

On Nov 22, 4:14 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:

"Brenda Ann" wrote in message

m...

"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
...

FM failed. Twice. The public didn't care. There was virtually no
uptake.

Look at it now.

FM didn't require people to throw out their old radios and buy new ones.

It didn't? How did you listen to FM on an AM radio. Similarly, HD does not
require anyone buy a new radio unless they want to... the analog signals
continue to be broadcast. Of course, you had the choice of simply not buying
an FM radio, which is what 99% of the people did for the first 25 years of
FM broadcasting.

Color TV didn't require people to throw out their B/W sets and buy an
expensive new color set. Color TV didn't interfere with existing B/W
television services and was still viewable on existing B/W sets.

Just as current radios will continue to receive analog signals.

So, then are you saying that HD radio, once all stations go to that,
will require everyone to purchase an HD radio - or could one still
listen to the station on a regular radio - with just poorer quality
reception??- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

BAJ,

You can not listen to the "HD" Radio 'Digital' Signal
on an Anolog Radio.

1 - Buy a HD Radio and Listen for Free.

2 - Buy a Internet Radio and Pay a Month Fee.

3 - Buy a Satellite Radio and Pay a Month Fee.

Your Future Choice : Free -or- Monthly Fee

~ RHF
.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Internet radio requires a fee? I'm still waiting for my first bill in
the mail.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

- - Steve,
- -
- - Do You Pay For Internet Access ?
- -
- - Via a Land Line or Cable ? [ ISP Costs ]
- -
- - The average Table Radio is ~25 Watts
- - -while- The average Home PC is ~250 Watts [ 10X ]
- - -extra- "WiFi" Whole House System
- -
- - you pay-through-the-nose month-after-month ~ RHF
- - .
- -

- Yes, but it seems pretty deceptive to call that an internet radio
- 'fee'. It's a bit like saying you pay a monthly 'fee' to listen to
- over-the-air radio when you pay your power bill or buy batteries.

Steve - Deceptive [ D E C E P T I V E ] - It's The Truth [.]

It is part of the cost-of-doing-business just like the
True Power-Cost of In-Home Internet Radio is actually
Ten Times [10X] the Cost of a Single AM/FM Table Radio

Point-of-Fact : Internet Radio -is- Anti-Green -and- Presently
An Environmentally Un-Sound Media Distribution System [.]

SAVE THE PLANET - LISTEN TO 'FREE' OVER-THE-AIR RADIO !

When an Internet Radio can Function like an basic 'kitchen'
AM/FM Radio and be Plug-and-Use like a basic Toaster :
* AC Power Plug
* Telephone Power Plug [No PC or WiFi]

IMHO - Then Internet Radio will have come of Age
for Use by the Average Radio Listener. ~ RHF
.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

- Then just answer one simple question for me.
- If what you're saying is correct, then if I stop listening
- to internet radio tomorrow,
- I'll begin saving money.
- How, exactly, will this happen?
- What money will I save?

Steve - DOH ! - Savings -do-not-equal- Costs ~ RHF

On Nov 24, 3:50 am, RHF wrote:
On Nov 23, 8:08 pm, Steve wrote:



On Nov 23, 9:07 pm, RHF wrote:

On Nov 23, 5:21 pm, Steve wrote:

On Nov 23, 5:42 pm, RHF wrote:

On Nov 23, 11:24 am, Steve wrote:

On Nov 23, 2:28 am, RHF wrote:

On Nov 22, 7:25 pm, "
wrote:

On Nov 22, 4:14 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:

"Brenda Ann" wrote in message

m...

"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
...

FM failed. Twice. The public didn't care. There was virtually no
uptake.

Look at it now.

FM didn't require people to throw out their old radios and buy new ones.

It didn't? How did you listen to FM on an AM radio. Similarly, HD does not
require anyone buy a new radio unless they want to... the analog signals
continue to be broadcast. Of course, you had the choice of simply not buying
an FM radio, which is what 99% of the people did for the first 25 years of
FM broadcasting.

Color TV didn't require people to throw out their B/W sets and buy an
expensive new color set. Color TV didn't interfere with existing B/W
television services and was still viewable on existing B/W sets.

Just as current radios will continue to receive analog signals.

So, then are you saying that HD radio, once all stations go to that,
will require everyone to purchase an HD radio - or could one still
listen to the station on a regular radio - with just poorer quality
reception??- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

BAJ,

You can not listen to the "HD" Radio 'Digital' Signal
on an Anolog Radio.

1 - Buy a HD Radio and Listen for Free.

2 - Buy a Internet Radio and Pay a Month Fee.

3 - Buy a Satellite Radio and Pay a Month Fee.

Your Future Choice : Free -or- Monthly Fee

~ RHF
.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Internet radio requires a fee? I'm still waiting for my first bill in
the mail.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

- - Steve,
- -
- - Do You Pay For Internet Access ?
- -
- - Via a Land Line or Cable ? [ ISP Costs ]
- -
- - The average Table Radio is ~25 Watts
- - -while- The average Home PC is ~250 Watts [ 10X ]
- - -extra- "WiFi" Whole House System
- -
- - you pay-through-the-nose month-after-month ~ RHF
- - .
- -

- Yes, but it seems pretty deceptive to call that an internet radio
- 'fee'. It's a bit like saying you pay a monthly 'fee' to listen to
- over-the-air radio when you pay your power bill or buy batteries.

Steve - Deceptive [ D E C E P T I V E ] - It's The Truth [.]

It is part of the cost-of-doing-business just like the
True Power-Cost of In-Home Internet Radio is actually
Ten Times [10X] the Cost of a Single AM/FM Table Radio

Point-of-Fact : Internet Radio -is- Anti-Green -and- Presently
An Environmentally Un-Sound Media Distribution System [.]

SAVE THE PLANET - LISTEN TO 'FREE' OVER-THE-AIR RADIO !

When an Internet Radio can Function like an basic 'kitchen'
AM/FM Radio and be Plug-and-Use like a basic Toaster :
* AC Power Plug
* Telephone Power Plug [No PC or WiFi]

IMHO - Then Internet Radio will have come of Age
for Use by the Average Radio Listener. ~ RHF
.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

- Then just answer one simple question for me.
- If what you're saying is correct, then if I stop listening
- to internet radio tomorrow,
- I'll begin saving money.
- How, exactly, will this happen?
- What money will I save?

Steve - DOH ! - Savings -do-not-equal- Costs ~ RHF
.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I'm not asking whether savings equal costs. I'm asking you to clarify
your claim that people who listen to internet radio are charged a
monthly fee for that privilege. We're not in disagreement about the
fact that internet radio requires internet access. Nor do we disagree
about what stand alone internet radios cost, so far as I can tell. I
am not denying that there are costs, and if you think I am denying
some of the costs, just say so. We can discuss it.

In the meantime, I would appreciate it if you would clarify your
statement that people who listen to internet radio are charged a
monthly fee for doing so. The question is not whether they're charged
a monthly fee for internet access. The question is not whether they
pay for their electricity. The question is not whether they had to
purchase their internet radios. The question is whether people are
charged a monthly fee that is specifically for listening to internet
radio. You've asserted numerous times that they are charged such a
fee. I would appreciate it if you would explain this--assuming of
course that you really meant it.

On Nov 23, 9:22 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"IBOCcrock" wrote in message

...

iBiquty has already mentioned exit-strategies:

Exit strategies are usually focused on the point where venture capital
cashes in, and takes a company public or sells to a larger one. That can
occur well before the company is profitable and only requires a perception
of value.

iBiquity has nearly all the viable AM and FM stations in the top 100 markets
on board. If the market improves, they could probably do a very profitable
LBO immediately.

Conversions to HD/IBOC are stalling:

"Bellwether BE Makes Some Changes?"

"BE is going through some less pleasant changes right now. Within a
few weeks' time the manufacturer of transmitters and digital audio and
data products lost its global sales VP; it laid off some of its
employees; and it announced the retirement of its CEO of eight years,
John Pedlow -- news that came, at least to me, suddenly... It's
probably no secret that the rate of HD Radio adoption has slowed in
the United States. There are new opportunities that exist in other
countries; Mexico and Brazil come to mind; sales there are few but
promising. The whole industry is in a bit of a null in the HD
transition but I don't think anyone's long-term plans have changed."

http://www.rwonline.com/pages/s.0044/t.9546.html

"IBiquity Digital's Make-or-Break Point Approaches" February 2005

"If we had this conversation seven years ago and you were to tell me
that in 2004 this company would still be private and raising funds,
I'd probably have keeled over, said Thomas Uhlman, a managing partner
at iBiquity's largest shareholder, New Venture Partners LLC."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2005Feb27.html

So, iNiquity has only the $50/radio HD chipset fees to keep themselves
and the dying radio industry afloat. Investors have been waiting
forever to cash-in, hence the "couldn't be reached for comment". If
iBiquty could sell 100,000,000 HD radios, that would mean
$5,000,000,000 - the only reason they are looking at exit-strategies
is because the investors are mad-barking dogs at their door, and the
company is going nowhere!

On Nov 23, 9:22 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"IBOCcrock" wrote in message

...

iBiquty has already mentioned exit-strategies:

Exit strategies are usually focused on the point where venture capital
cashes in, and takes a company public or sells to a larger one. That can
occur well before the company is profitable and only requires a perception
of value.

iBiquity has nearly all the viable AM and FM stations in the top 100 markets
on board. If the market improves, they could probably do a very profitable
LBO immediately.

"A Significant Sign in the Death of HD Radio"

"The radio industry is giving off signs that HD Radio is dead, even
though we keep hearing bright comments being uttered by iBiquity
execs... While the public's pulse on HD isn't beating, the latest
glaze over this problem is in a rebuilt HD Radio Alliance web site to
educate retailers and sales personnel on the benefits of HD
Radio...This is death sign #1... HD Radio's death is imminent. It's
only a matter of time, if you read the signs."

http://www.audiographics.com/agd/102607-1.htm

More death signs:

"Have 200 HD Radio stations gone missing?"

"The HD Radio camp is advertising that there are currently over 1,500
radio stations now broadcasting in HD (from its website, to press
releases as well as in various other promotions)... but yet only 1,300
have filed with the FCC."

http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/ha...e-missing.html

"IS IBIQUITY RENEGING ON A REBATE OFFER?"

"CGC #791 mentioned a limited-time price for the entry-level
Radiosophy HD100 digital radio receiver and there was a handsome
rebate offered from iBiquity. It now appears that iBiquity's rebate
contractor is balking on issuing some rebates, and we'd like to
determine the extent of the problem... We'll let you know if
significant trends develop."

http://www.bext.com/_CGC/2007/cgc807.htm

And, you can't undo the damage - HD/IBOC just doesn't work:

"Is HD Radio Toast?"

"There are serious issues of coverage. Early adopters who bought HD
radios report serious drop-outs, poor coverage, and interference. The
engineers of Ibiquity may argue otherwise and defend the system, but
the industry has a serious PR problem with the very people we need to
get the word out on HD... In other words, everything you can find on
the regular FM dial... The word has already gotten out about HD Radio.
People who have already bought an HD Radio are telling others of their
experience (mostly bad) and no amount of marketing will reverse this."

http://www.fmqb.com/article.asp?id=487772

Lots-of-luck!

On Nov 23, 9:22�pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"IBOCcrock" wrote in message

...

iBiquty has already mentioned exit-strategies:

�Exit strategies are usually focused on the point where venture capital
cashes in, and takes a company public or sells to a larger one. That can
occur well before the company is profitable and only requires a perception
of value.

iBiquity has nearly all the viable AM and FM stations in the top 100 markets
on board. If the market improves, they could probably do a very profitable
LBO immediately.

Let's not forget how Peter Ferrera spouted off that HD Radio would
appear in Apple products:

"Radio on the iPod? Only if it's Internet Radio"

"He said (with a straight face) that Apple had no immediate plans for
a 'radio-type' function on its players because "Steve considers
traditional radio to be a an old technology and he doesn't want to
'taint' his cutting edge technology. How about Internet radio? That's
a different story" my contact stated!"

http://www.hear2.com/2007/11/radio-on-the-ip.html

Here is one of Ferrera's most-famous quotes:

"...I can tell you that 30 different product lines of automobiles will
have HD Radio as optional or standard equipment by the 2008 model
year."

Your whole industry is full-of-****!

On Nov 24, 4:37 am, Steve wrote:
On Nov 24, 3:50 am, RHF wrote:





On Nov 23, 8:08 pm, Steve wrote:

On Nov 23, 9:07 pm, RHF wrote:

On Nov 23, 5:21 pm, Steve wrote:

On Nov 23, 5:42 pm, RHF wrote:

On Nov 23, 11:24 am, Steve wrote:

On Nov 23, 2:28 am, RHF wrote:

On Nov 22, 7:25 pm, "
wrote:

On Nov 22, 4:14 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:

"Brenda Ann" wrote in message

m...

"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
...

FM failed. Twice. The public didn't care. There was virtually no
uptake.

Look at it now.

FM didn't require people to throw out their old radios and buy new ones.

It didn't? How did you listen to FM on an AM radio. Similarly, HD does not
require anyone buy a new radio unless they want to... the analog signals
continue to be broadcast. Of course, you had the choice of simply not buying
an FM radio, which is what 99% of the people did for the first 25 years of
FM broadcasting.

Color TV didn't require people to throw out their B/W sets and buy an
expensive new color set. Color TV didn't interfere with existing B/W
television services and was still viewable on existing B/W sets.

Just as current radios will continue to receive analog signals.

So, then are you saying that HD radio, once all stations go to that,
will require everyone to purchase an HD radio - or could one still
listen to the station on a regular radio - with just poorer quality
reception??- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

BAJ,

You can not listen to the "HD" Radio 'Digital' Signal
on an Anolog Radio.

1 - Buy a HD Radio and Listen for Free.

2 - Buy a Internet Radio and Pay a Month Fee.

3 - Buy a Satellite Radio and Pay a Month Fee.

Your Future Choice : Free -or- Monthly Fee

~ RHF
.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Internet radio requires a fee? I'm still waiting for my first bill in
the mail.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

- - Steve,
- -
- - Do You Pay For Internet Access ?
- -
- - Via a Land Line or Cable ? [ ISP Costs ]
- -
- - The average Table Radio is ~25 Watts
- - -while- The average Home PC is ~250 Watts [ 10X ]
- - -extra- "WiFi" Whole House System
- -
- - you pay-through-the-nose month-after-month ~ RHF
- - .
- -

- Yes, but it seems pretty deceptive to call that an internet radio
- 'fee'. It's a bit like saying you pay a monthly 'fee' to listen to
- over-the-air radio when you pay your power bill or buy batteries.

Steve - Deceptive [ D E C E P T I V E ] - It's The Truth [.]

It is part of the cost-of-doing-business just like the
True Power-Cost of In-Home Internet Radio is actually
Ten Times [10X] the Cost of a Single AM/FM Table Radio

Point-of-Fact : Internet Radio -is- Anti-Green -and- Presently
An Environmentally Un-Sound Media Distribution System [.]

SAVE THE PLANET - LISTEN TO 'FREE' OVER-THE-AIR RADIO !

When an Internet Radio can Function like an basic 'kitchen'
AM/FM Radio and be Plug-and-Use like a basic Toaster :
* AC Power Plug
* Telephone Power Plug [No PC or WiFi]

IMHO - Then Internet Radio will have come of Age
for Use by the Average Radio Listener. ~ RHF
.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

- Then just answer one simple question for me.
- If what you're saying is correct, then if I stop listening
- to internet radio tomorrow,
- I'll begin saving money.
- How, exactly, will this happen?
- What money will I save?

Steve - DOH ! - Savings -do-not-equal- Costs ~ RHF
.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I'm not asking whether savings equal costs. I'm asking you to clarify
your claim that people who listen to internet radio are charged a
monthly fee for that privilege. We're not in disagreement about the
fact that internet radio requires internet access. Nor do we disagree
about what stand alone internet radios cost, so far as I can tell. I
am not denying that there are costs, and if you think I am denying
some of the costs, just say so. We can discuss it.

In the meantime, I would appreciate it if you would clarify your
statement that people who listen to internet radio are charged a
monthly fee for doing so. The question is not whether they're charged
a monthly fee for internet access. The question is not whether they
pay for their electricity. The question is not whether they had to
purchase their internet radios. The question is whether people are
charged a monthly fee that is specifically for listening to internet
radio. You've asserted numerous times that they are charged such a
fee. I would appreciate it if you would explain this--assuming of
course that you really meant it.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Steve,

The Great Debate : Free Internet Radio - It Ain't Free !
-while- Free Over-the-Air Radio Is FREE !
[ Arguing-the-Absurd ]

Question - Do You Pay For Internet Service {Access} ?

Hell No ! - I Have 'Free' Internet Access - * Its Free -and-
Therefore Your Internet Radio Too "Is Free" ! - Lucky You }

-OR- Are You Like the Vast Majority of Internet Users -and-
Must Honestly Say : Oh Yeah ! - I "Paid" For Internet Acce$$
- It Does Cost Me Money - Every Month / Every Year .
Therefore Your Internet Radio Too "Is Not Free" ! - Reality :-{
-cause- WIthout the Fees for Intenet Acce$$ : You would NOT
have Your Internet Radio as Part of the Acce$$ / $ervice [.]
-TBL- Internet Radio It Ain't Free [.]

Now it is true that -if- you get your Internet Radio "At Work" :
It Cost You Nothing -but- Your Employer Is Paying For
Internet Acce$$.

Plus -if- you get your Internet Radio "Via WiFi" at StarBucks :
It Cost You Nothing -but- StarBucks Is Paying For Internet Acce$$.
-and- Your Two Dollar Cup-of-Coffee was Not Free.

Now 'At-Home' My Pocket AM/FM Radio -IS- "Free".
* Any Where Around The House Inside and Out.

Now 'At-Work' My Pocket AM/FM Radio -IS- "Free".
* Any Where In The Work Place.

Now 'In-Any-Store' My Pocket AM/FM Radio -IS- "Free".
* Any Where Throughout The Mall - StarBucks included.

Now 'In-the-Car' My Car AM/FM Radio -IS- "Free".
* Any Where I Drive.

Yes I Am Free-To-Be-Me -with-
My "Free" Over-the-Air Radio ~ RHF

On Nov 24, 11:48Â*am, wrote:
On Nov 23, 9:22�pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:

"IBOCcrock" wrote in message

...

iBiquty has already mentioned exit-strategies:

�Exit strategies are usually focused on the point where venture capital
cashes in, and takes a company public or sells to a larger one. That can
occur well before the company is profitable and only requires a perception
of value.

iBiquity has nearly all the viable AM and FM stations in the top 100 markets
on board. If the market improves, they could probably do a very profitable
LBO immediately.

Let's not forget how Peter Ferrera spouted off that HD Radio would
appear in Apple products:

"Radio on the iPod? Only if it's Internet Radio"

"He said (with a straight face) that Apple had no immediate plans for
a 'radio-type' function on its players because "Steve considers
traditional radio to be a an old technology and he doesn't want to
'taint' his cutting edge technology. How about Internet radio? That's
a different story" my contact stated!"

http://www.hear2.com/2007/11/radio-on-the-ip.html

Here is one of Ferrera's most-famous quotes:

"...I can tell you that 30 different product lines of automobiles will
have HD Radio as optional or standard equipment by the 2008 model
year."

- Your whole industry is full-of-****!

PocketRadio - 'full-of-****!' - Finally An Opinion On
Something That You Are An Expert On ! ~ RHF

On Nov 24, 6:53Â*pm, RHF wrote:
On Nov 24, 11:48Â*am, wrote:





On Nov 23, 9:22�pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:

"IBOCcrock" wrote in message

....

iBiquty has already mentioned exit-strategies:

�Exit strategies are usually focused on the point where venture capital
cashes in, and takes a company public or sells to a larger one. That can
occur well before the company is profitable and only requires a perception
of value.

iBiquity has nearly all the viable AM and FM stations in the top 100 markets
on board. If the market improves, they could probably do a very profitable
LBO immediately.

Let's not forget how Peter Ferrera spouted off that HD Radio would
appear in Apple products:

"Radio on the iPod? Only if it's Internet Radio"

"He said (with a straight face) that Apple had no immediate plans for
a 'radio-type' function on its players because "Steve considers
traditional radio to be a an old technology and he doesn't want to
'taint' his cutting edge technology. How about Internet radio? That's
a different story" my contact stated!"

http://www.hear2.com/2007/11/radio-on-the-ip.html

Here is one of Ferrera's most-famous quotes:

"...I can tell you that 30 different product lines of automobiles will
have HD Radio as optional or standard equipment by the 2008 model
year."

- Your whole industry is full-of-****!

PocketRadio - 'full-of-****!' - Finally An Opinion On
Something That You Are An Expert On ! ~ RHF
Â*.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

The HD Radio industry:

http://www.forumspile.com/You-Are-Fu...t_(Toilet).jpg

On Nov 24, 6:50 pm, RHF wrote:

Steve,

The Great Debate : Free Internet Radio - It Ain't Free !
-while- Free Over-the-Air Radio Is FREE !
[ Arguing-the-Absurd ]

Question - Do You Pay For Internet Service {Access} ?

Of course I pay for internet access.


Hell No ! - I Have 'Free' Internet Access - * Its Free -and-
Therefore Your Internet Radio Too "Is Free" ! - Lucky You }

-OR- Are You Like the Vast Majority of Internet Users -and-
Must Honestly Say : Oh Yeah ! - I "Paid" For Internet Acce$$
- It Does Cost Me Money - Every Month / Every Year .
Therefore Your Internet Radio Too "Is Not Free" ! - Reality :-{
-cause- WIthout the Fees for Intenet Acce$$ : You would NOT
have Your Internet Radio as Part of the Acce$$ / $ervice [.]
-TBL- Internet Radio It Ain't Free [.]

Of course my internet access isn't free. Nor is the electricity that I
use to run my over the air radios. So what? You said that there is a
monthly fee SPECIFICALLY for listening to internet radio. I would
appreciate it if you would explain this, as I've yet to receive any
internet radio bills in the mail.


Now it is true that -if- you get your Internet Radio "At Work" :
It Cost You Nothing -but- Your Employer Is Paying For
Internet Acce$$.

Plus -if- you get your Internet Radio "Via WiFi" at StarBucks :
It Cost You Nothing -but- StarBucks Is Paying For Internet Acce$$.
-and- Your Two Dollar Cup-of-Coffee was Not Free.

Now 'At-Home' My Pocket AM/FM Radio -IS- "Free".
* Any Where Around The House Inside and Out.

Now 'At-Work' My Pocket AM/FM Radio -IS- "Free".
* Any Where In The Work Place.

Now 'In-Any-Store' My Pocket AM/FM Radio -IS- "Free".
* Any Where Throughout The Mall - StarBucks included.

Now 'In-the-Car' My Car AM/FM Radio -IS- "Free".
* Any Where I Drive.

Yes I Am Free-To-Be-Me -with-
My "Free" Over-the-Air Radio ~ RHF
.- Hide quoted text -

So far as I can tell, we're in complete agreement about all of this.
We only seem to disagree about whether there's a monthly fee that is
not for electricity and not for internet but is specifically for
internet radio. Can you tell us more about this fee?