Telamon wrote:
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"tom k in L.A." wrote:

On Nov 29, 10:16 am, "Frank Dresser"
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"tom k in L.A." wrote in

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i think US shortwave is a travesty. terrible showing of our country
to the world as religious fanatics. terrible-- i hate it and wish
there were more intelligent US content broadcast.
Are you going to do anything about what's bothering you?

Frank Dresser
it would be good if US shortwave stations would sell big blocks of
time directly to Deutsche Welle, BBC, VoR, NHK, Radio Prague, etc.
then at least it would be intelligent programming.

Just because the US religious broadcasters don't have what you want does
not make them unintelligent.

I'm not interested in listening to relays from transmitters in our own
country. It kind of ruins the whole idea of SW for me.


There are 2 kinds of SWLs. One kind enjoys other cultures. One kind
doesn't.

Since I don't live in the US, I find these kind of stations rather
interesting and jolly good fun to listen to; of course I am entirely aware
that they do not represent the views of the average US citizen, and at
many times they are quite the "crackpot fringe". I don't think that any
reasonably sophisticated European listener, at least, could think
otherwise.

But I, certainly, have a great deal of fun listening to fire-and-brimstone
pastors and the "apocalypse now, hoard-gold-and-buy-guns" broadcasts. It's
miles and miles away from commercial FM, and isn't that the whole point of
the SWL hobby?

My other interests are Tropical Band and anything from South America
(since my wife is from Brazil!)

Alex


There are 2 kinds of SWLs. One kind enjoys other cultures. One kind
doesn't.

On Nov 30, 5:58 am, David wrote:
Telamon wrote:
In article
,
"tom k in L.A." wrote:

On Nov 29, 10:16 am, "Frank Dresser"
wrote:
"tom k in L.A." wrote in

m...

i think US shortwave is a travesty. terrible showing of our country
to the world as religious fanatics. terrible-- i hate it and wish
there were more intelligent US content broadcast.
Are you going to do anything about what's bothering you?

Frank Dresser
it would be good if US shortwave stations would sell big blocks of
time directly to Deutsche Welle, BBC, VoR, NHK, Radio Prague, etc.
then at least it would be intelligent programming.

Just because the US religious broadcasters don't have what you want does
not make them unintelligent.

I'm not interested in listening to relays from transmitters in our own
country. It kind of ruins the whole idea of SW for me.

-
- There are 2 kinds of SWLs.
- One kind enjoys other cultures.
- One kind doesn't.
-

David,

Make that Three Kinds of Shortwave Listners (SWLs) :

1 - One Kind Enjoys 'other' Cultures and is a Shortwave
Listener (SWL) who likes to listen to the Programs from
International Boradcasters or Their Families Ethno-Cultural
Homeland.

2 - Another Kind Searches for News and Information from
the Source; and Un-Biased News and Information with a
Different Perspective; and they use the Shortwave Radio
as a means of doing so.

3 - Plus the Kind that are Shortwave Radio DXers; and
are into : The Art; The Challenge; and The Technology
of Seeking Out those Hard-to-Find and Hard-to-Hear
Shortwave Radio Signals that only a few get to Hear
from the Far Corners of the World.

.. . . and some Shortwave Radio Listeners (SWLs) enjoy
doing all three kinds of Shortwave Radio Listening.

WHICH KIND OT SHORTWAVE LISTENER ARE YOU ?

FWIW - I am a 2-1-3 Kind of Shortwave Radio Listener (SWL).

i want to know ~ RHF

"tom k in L.A." wrote in message
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On Nov 29, 10:16 am, "Frank Dresser"
wrote:
"tom k in L.A." wrote in

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i think US shortwave is a travesty. terrible showing of our country
to the world as religious fanatics. terrible-- i hate it and wish
there were more intelligent US content broadcast.

Are you going to do anything about what's bothering you?

Frank Dresser

it would be good if US shortwave stations would sell big blocks of
time directly to Deutsche Welle, BBC, VoR, NHK, Radio Prague, etc.
then at least it would be intelligent programming.

OK, but are you going to do anything to make your opinion count? Have you
written your congressman?

I frequently find the programming on US SW stations annoying, silly and
wrong-headed. Oftentimes it's very amusing. Even more often, it's boring.
But sometimes there's something on of great interest and importance.
Something that can't be easily dismissed.

But the bottom line is US SW radio exists the way it does because people
have put their money where their mouths are.

Frank Dresser

"Alex" wrote in message
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Since I don't live in the US, I find these kind of stations rather
interesting and jolly good fun to listen to; of course I am entirely aware
that they do not represent the views of the average US citizen, and at
many times they are quite the "crackpot fringe". I don't think that any
reasonably sophisticated European listener, at least, could think
otherwise.

But I, certainly, have a great deal of fun listening to fire-and-brimstone
pastors and the "apocalypse now, hoard-gold-and-buy-guns" broadcasts. It's
miles and miles away from commercial FM, and isn't that the whole point of
the SWL hobby?

My other interests are Tropical Band and anything from South America
(since my wife is from Brazil!)

Alex



I'm sure you are right.

Do the US SW broadcasters speak for the average American? No.

Are the average non-US listeners smart enough to figure that out? Yes.

Frank Dresser

"Telamon" wrote in message
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He could always listen to WBCQ. Oh, wait a minute... that won't work.


He could broadcast his own show on WBCQ.

Frank Dresser

I'm sure you are right.

Do the US SW broadcasters speak for the average American? No.

Are the average non-US listeners smart enough to figure that out? Yes.

Frank Dresser

Hear, hear!

I've been lurking on this group for years and years - and I see so much
bickering and b*tching it's almost like my old headmaster used to say -
"Like washerwomen round the well". Glad to see some level-headed
discussion again. The RFI posts are great too.

At the prices US SW airtime is going I think a few people could get
together and sponsor a "rationalist" segment on as many channels/stations
as we can. Raise a couple of thousand dollars and get someone like Richard
Dawkins to speak, or, perhaps, replay some of Richard Feynman's interviews
from UK's Horizon back in the 1980's.

Yes, and thinking back to the 80s/90s in the UK - we're in the same
situation on TV - a severe lack of critically thought-out and
science-based documentary, in favour of the "shockumentary" - a recent
one could have been subtitled "WiFi in schools is giving your children
cancer!!" - and that was the once-renowned "Panorama".

Sigh...

Alex

In article ,
"Frank Dresser" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
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He could always listen to WBCQ. Oh, wait a minute... that won't work.


He could broadcast his own show on WBCQ.

That's the ticket! Excellent suggestion!

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

In article ,
David wrote:

Telamon wrote:
In article
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"tom k in L.A." wrote:

On Nov 29, 10:16 am, "Frank Dresser"
wrote:
"tom k in L.A." wrote in
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co m...



i think US shortwave is a travesty. terrible showing of our
country to the world as religious fanatics. terrible-- i hate
it and wish there were more intelligent US content broadcast.
Are you going to do anything about what's bothering you?

Frank Dresser
it would be good if US shortwave stations would sell big blocks of
time directly to Deutsche Welle, BBC, VoR, NHK, Radio Prague, etc.
then at least it would be intelligent programming.

Just because the US religious broadcasters don't have what you want
does not make them unintelligent.

I'm not interested in listening to relays from transmitters in our
own country. It kind of ruins the whole idea of SW for me.


There are 2 kinds of SWLs. One kind enjoys other cultures. One kind
doesn't.

For me it is not about "enjoying other cultures" but understanding
another countries point of view on current events. Generally I want the
ability to hear this opinion directly though the medium of SW so that
the influence of individuals domestic do not have the opportunity to
screw with this content. I have a great disrespect for the USA news
media that has a tendency to spin everything in favor of a liberal
point of view. Here, for example, the news and opinion provided by
"public radio" on the FM broadcast band provides vast amounts of
amusement.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon wrote:


For me it is not about "enjoying other cultures" but understanding
another countries point of view on current events. Generally I want the
ability to hear this opinion directly though the medium of SW so that
the influence of individuals domestic do not have the opportunity to
screw with this content. I have a great disrespect for the USA news
media that has a tendency to spin everything in favor of a liberal
point of view. Here, for example, the news and opinion provided by
"public radio" on the FM broadcast band provides vast amounts of
amusement.


You have a bizarre sense of humor.