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Which would you choose?
I want to buy a world band radio for my son. I'm thinking of the Eaton 1 on
sale from Circuit City. I am also thinking of a internet wireless radio. It would seem to me that wi-fi is the better choice. Am I missing something? Any info is appreciated. Thanks in advance. Frank |
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On Dec 11, 3:09 pm, "Frank103" wrote:
I want to buy a world band radio for my son. I'm thinking of the Eaton 1 on sale from Circuit City. I am also thinking of a internet wireless radio. It would seem to me that wi-fi is the better choice. Am I missing something? Any info is appreciated. Thanks in advance. Frank Frank - How Old is your Son ? Under 25 Years Old and has his own PC - - - Buy the WiFi Radio Over Age 30 and does not have his own PC - - - Buy the Eton E1 Radio from Circuit City. that the way i see it ~ RHF |
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On Dec 11, 6:09�pm, "Frank103" wrote:
I want to buy a world band radio for my son. I'm thinking of the Eaton 1 on sale from Circuit City. I am also thinking of a internet wireless radio. It would seem to me that wi-fi is the better choice. Am I missing something? Any info is appreciated. Thanks in advance. Frank What's missing, from that over-priced Eaton E1, is an internal ferrite- bar antenna! |
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IBOCcrock wrote:
On Dec 11, 6:09�pm, "Frank103" wrote: I want to buy a world band radio for my son. I'm thinking of the Eaton 1 on sale from Circuit City. I am also thinking of a internet wireless radio. It would seem to me that wi-fi is the better choice. Am I missing something? Any info is appreciated. Thanks in advance. Frank What's missing, from that over-priced Eaton E1, is an internal ferrite- bar antenna! Funny thing..your car radio doesn't have one either. Neither does mine and it works extremely well, especially at night and into the early morning. The long distance AM signal reception on most car radios is very good. In fact, I don't know of ANY car radios that use a ferrite rod antenna. For what The Eton E1 is now selling for, it's an absolute bargain. mike |
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On Dec 12, 8:24Â*am, David wrote:
wrote: On Dec 11, 9:18 pm, IBOCcrock wrote: On Dec 11, 6:09�pm, "Frank103" wrote: I want to buy a world band radio for my son. I'm thinking of the Eaton 1 on sale from Circuit City. I am also thinking of a internet wireless radio. It would seem to me that wi-fi is the better choice. Am I missing something? Any info is appreciated. Thanks in advance. Frank What's missing, from that over-priced Eaton E1, is an internal ferrite- bar antenna! Funny, my $10 Sony ICF-S10MK2 AM/FM radio has one, as did all of my SW radios before I dumped them because of all of the religious fanatics. Bedsides, the Eaton Siht E! has cheap dials and switches. None of my desk radios have a rod antenna, all of my portables do. Â*It really depends more on where you plan on using it, though. Â*Inside most modern buildings MW is iffy no matter what. Eaton/Gundig/Tecsun radios are poor quality and are overpriced - hell, the $150 Gundig E5 is for all purposes, the same radio as the $65 Degen 1103! I had a Grundig/TecsunEaton S350 and it was the cheapest piece-of-**** radio that I have ever owned! |
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On Dec 11, 6:09 pm, "Frank103" wrote:
I want to buy a world band radio for my son. I'm thinking of the Eaton 1 on sale from Circuit City. I am also thinking of a internet wireless radio. It would seem to me that wi-fi is the better choice. Am I missing something? Any info is appreciated. Thanks in advance. Frank I think it should hinge on the interests of your son. Is he interested in Radio or does he just want something to listen music, news, etc. on? If the idea is to spur his interest in Radio, then the choice is a no-brainer: get the E1 (or other real, over-the-air radio). If he wants easy and high quality access to a lot of radio/internet audio content, especially music, then an "internet radio" or audio bridge makes sense. Steve |
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On Dec 12, 12:48Â*am, m II wrote:
IBOCcrock wrote: On Dec 11, 6:09�pm, "Frank103" wrote: I want to buy a world band radio for my son. I'm thinking of the Eaton 1 on sale from Circuit City. I am also thinking of a internet wireless radio.. It would seem to me that wi-fi is the better choice. Am I missing something? Any info is appreciated. Thanks in advance. Frank What's missing, from that over-priced Eaton E1, is an internal ferrite- bar antenna! Funny thing..your car radio doesn't have one either. Neither does mine and it works extremely well, especially at night and into the early morning. The long distance AM signal reception on most car radios is very good. This is true, though I wonder to what extent it is true merely because, when you're driving around in your car, you're often further away from troublesome noise sources. I've always thought that the only advantage of a ferrite (or, for that matter, air core) loop is what it allows you NOT to hear (lots of local noise). I wouldn't expect a ferrite antenna to do substantially better under really prime conditions, except perhaps for those cases where you're wanting to hear a station that's 'buried' beneath a second one. A couple of years ago I spent the night in a little B&B way out in the middle of nowhere in rural Louisiana. I couldn't believe the reception I was getting on my little Grundig mini-world! Getting the same kind of reception at home, though, is not so easy without some nulling capability. Steve |
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On Dec 12, 2:48Â*pm, Steve wrote:
On Dec 12, 12:48Â*am, m II wrote: IBOCcrock wrote: On Dec 11, 6:09�pm, "Frank103" wrote: I want to buy a world band radio for my son. I'm thinking of the Eaton 1 on sale from Circuit City. I am also thinking of a internet wireless radio. It would seem to me that wi-fi is the better choice. Am I missing something? Any info is appreciated. Thanks in advance. Frank What's missing, from that over-priced Eaton E1, is an internal ferrite- bar antenna! Funny thing..your car radio doesn't have one either. Neither does mine and it works extremely well, especially at night and into the early morning. The long distance AM signal reception on most car radios is very good. This is true, though I wonder to what extent it is true merely because, when you're driving around in your car, you're often further away from troublesome noise sources. I've always thought that the only advantage of a ferrite (or, for that matter, air core) loop is what it allows you NOT to hear (lots of local noise). I wouldn't expect a ferrite antenna to do substantially better under really prime conditions, except perhaps for those cases where you're wanting to hear a station that's 'buried' beneath a second one. A couple of years ago I spent the night in a little B&B way out in the middle of nowhere in rural Louisiana. I couldn't believe the reception I was getting on my little Grundig mini-world! Getting the same kind of reception at home, though, is not so easy without some nulling capability. Steve- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Actually, come to think of it I think the mini-world does have a tiny ferrite antenna, so it's not a good example. Still, it's not surprising to think that a whip or wire in good conditions could be more effective than a loop in a noisy environment. Steve |
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RHF wrote:
Dang You Are Right ! Dang You Are Right Again ! Dang You Are Right Again ! Dang You Are Right Again ! Dang You Are Right Again ! I see it merely took you a while to realize the situation. I appreciate your recognition and thank you for public display of your true feelings. Sincerely, mike |
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On Dec 12, 2:21 pm, wrote:
Eaton/Gundig/Tecsun radios are poor quality and are overpriced - hell, the $150 Gundig E5 is for all purposes, the same radio as the $65 Degen 1103! I had a Grundig/TecsunEaton S350 and it was the cheapest piece-of-**** radio that I have ever owned. Yes, you are right that the S350 is hardly worth the cost. Some folks, though, really like the audio. I was actually pretty impressed with the Eton E5. You can get it new for around $100 (ArtofSale's eBay shop) or you can get one that's been returned (usually because the recipient has no desire to listen to SW) for around $70 on eBay. The E5 may be the most sensitive portable currently available. The Eton E1 hardly deserves your blanket condemnation. If you can get hold of one that works (OK, I had to return the first two I bought!), it's probably the best portable that you can get your hands on. All the bells and whistles are there. It behaves like a desktop communications receiver. And the E1 is available for around $230 both through Circuit City and National Geographic. At that price, it's a steal. I think the history of the Grundig/Tecsun Sat800 also disproves your blanket condemnation. While huge, the Sat800 is one of the best SW radios one can listen to. Whether you truly consider it to be a portable is probably a legitimate concern. So, no, I think you are clearly wrong about all Eton/Tecsun/Grundigs being of poor quality and overpriced. Mike Louisville |
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On Dec 13, 12:25 pm, Mike wrote:
On Dec 12, 2:21 pm, wrote: Eaton/Gundig/Tecsun radios are poor quality and are overpriced - hell, the $150 Gundig E5 is for all purposes, the same radio as the $65 Degen 1103! I had a Grundig/TecsunEaton S350 and it was the cheapest piece-of-**** radio that I have ever owned. Yes, you are right that the S350 is hardly worth the cost. Some folks, though, really like the audio. I was actually pretty impressed with the Eton E5. You can get it new for around $100 (ArtofSale's eBay shop) or you can get one that's been returned (usually because the recipient has no desire to listen to SW) for around $70 on eBay. The E5 may be the most sensitive portable currently available. The Eton E1 hardly deserves your blanket condemnation. If you can get hold of one that works (OK, I had to return the first two I bought!), it's probably the best portable that you can get your hands on. All the bells and whistles are there. It behaves like a desktop communications receiver. And the E1 is available for around $230 both through Circuit City and National Geographic. At that price, it's a steal. I think the history of the Grundig/Tecsun Sat800 also disproves your blanket condemnation. While huge, the Sat800 is one of the best SW radios one can listen to. Whether you truly consider it to be a portable is probably a legitimate concern. So, no, I think you are clearly wrong about all Eton/Tecsun/Grundigs being of poor quality and overpriced. Mike Louisville Ever since the Sony ICF-2010 and RS DX-440 went out of production, all follow-on SW radios have been almost utter cheap plastic junk. |
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On Dec 13, 1:11 pm, wrote:
Ever since the Sony ICF-2010 and RS DX-440 went out of production, all follow-on SW radios have been almost utter cheap plastic junk The Eton E1 is much better than any of my three Sony 2010s. The 2010 is not without its faults, either. The FET is easily blown out, the case is cheap plastic and causes Error messages, the antenna receptacle has worn out on every 2010 I've owned, and the power supply connections are notorious for going bad. Are you also suggesting that the Sony SW77 and the Sony 7600G and 7600GR are also cheap plastic junk? They all came after the 2010 and DX440. I think I remember you under some other names in the past. You seem to get your jollies by telling people their radios suck. Whatever. I think anyone who knows much about radios knows you're wrong. You have a right to your opinions. It's just that your blanket condemnations lack credibility. Mike |
Two Sale Prices - Eton E1 XM-Ready AM/FM Radio
On Dec 13, 9:25 am, Mike wrote:
On Dec 12, 2:21 pm, wrote: Eaton/Gundig/Tecsun radios are poor quality and are overpriced - hell, the $150 Gundig E5 is for all purposes, the same radio as the $65 Degen 1103! I had a Grundig/TecsunEaton S350 and it was the cheapest piece-of-**** radio that I have ever owned. Yes, you are right that the S350 is hardly worth the cost. Some folks, though, really like the audio. I was actually pretty impressed with the Eton E5. You can get it new for around $100 (ArtofSale's eBay shop) or you can get one that's been returned (usually because the recipient has no desire to listen to SW) for around $70 on eBay. The E5 may be the most sensitive portable currently available. The Eton E1 hardly deserves your blanket condemnation. If you can get hold of one that works (OK, I had to return the first two I bought!), it's probably the best portable that you can get your hands on. All the bells and whistles are there. It behaves like a desktop communications receiver. - And the E1 is available for around $230 both through - Circuit City and National Geographic. At that price, - it's a steal. Mike - Nice Price Tips ~ RHF Eton E1 XM-Ready AM/FM Radio http://www.circuitcity.com/ccd/produ....do?oid=120732 Circuit City Item # ETN E1 - Price $224.96 Eton E1 {Professional} XM Shortwave Radio http://shop.nationalgeographic.com/p.../2486/107.html National Geographic Store Item # 72086 - Price $299.95 |
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On Dec 14, 8:30 am, Mike wrote:
On Dec 13, 1:11 pm, wrote: Ever since the SonyICF-2010 and RS DX-440 went out of production, all follow-on SW radios have been almost utter cheap plastic junk The Eton E1 is much better than any of my three Sony 2010s. The 2010 is not without its faults, either. The FET is easily blown out, the case is cheap plastic and causes Error messages, the antenna receptacle has worn out on every 2010 I've owned, and the power supply connections are notorious for going bad. Are you also suggesting that the SonySW77and the Sony 7600G and 7600GR are also cheap plastic junk? They all came after the 2010 and DX440. I think I remember you under some other names in the past. You seem to get your jollies by telling people their radios suck. Whatever. I think anyone who knows much about radios knows you're wrong. You have a right to your opinions. It's just that your blanket condemnations lack credibility. Mike My SW77 had died and took it to a tech saying I think some of the capacitors were 'leaking' (electrically) was told yes indeed several electrolytics had leaked 'electrolyte' onto the main pcb causing many problems that could not be reliable repaired! Asked wasn't it unusual for several capacitors to leak simultaenously and answered in the affirmative. Hadn't been used or stored in unusual conditions. Am ****ed off. Had the predecessor 2010D (I think) and had problems with that too. With my SW77 it works perfectly except no audio from speaker. Audio from headphone jack is OK??????????? |
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On Dec 15, 2:02�am, wrote:
On Dec 14, 8:30 am, Mike wrote: On Dec 13, 1:11 pm, wrote: Ever since the SonyICF-2010 and RS DX-440 went out of production, all follow-on SW radios have been almost utter cheap plastic junk The Eton E1 is much better than any of my three Sony 2010s. The 2010 is not without its faults, either. The FET is easily blown out, the case is cheap plastic and causes Error messages, the antenna receptacle has worn out on every 2010 I've owned, and the power supply connections are notorious for going bad. Are you also suggesting that the SonySW77and the Sony 7600G and 7600GR are also cheap plastic junk? They all came after the 2010 and DX440. I think I remember you under some other names in the past. You seem to get your jollies by telling people their radios suck. Whatever. I think anyone who knows much about radios knows you're wrong. You have a right to your opinions. It's just that your blanket condemnations lack credibility. Mike My SW77 had died and took it to a tech saying I think some of the capacitors were 'leaking' (electrically) was told yes indeed several electrolytics had leaked 'electrolyte' onto the main pcb �causing many problems that could not be reliable repaired! �Asked wasn't it unusual for several capacitors to leak simultaenously and answered in the affirmative. �Hadn't been used or stored in unusual conditions. �Am ****ed off. �Had the predecessor 2010D (I think) and had problems with that too. �With my SW77 it works perfectly except no audio from speaker. �Audio from headphone jack is OK???????????- Hide quoted text - _______________________________________________ I had a very similar problem with my SW77. Leaking capacitors kept the radio from working in either SSB or sync. Noel Ramos, a freelance technician who specializes in repairing 2010s and SW77s, was able to fix it up as good as new. You could probably locate his new address on the 2010 Yahoo group. As I remember, his charges were very reasonable and his work was impressive. Good luck with the SW77! Mike |
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The Evolution of the "Cheap Plastic Junk" Anti-Radio-Man
On Dec 13, 11:30 am, Mike wrote:
On Dec 13, 1:11 pm, wrote: Ever since the Sony ICF-2010 and RS DX-440 went out of production, all follow-on SW radios have been almost utter cheap plastic junk The Eton E1 is much better than any of my three Sony 2010s. The 2010 is not without its faults, either. The FET is easily blown out, the case is cheap plastic and causes Error messages, the antenna receptacle has worn out on every 2010 I've owned, and the power supply connections are notorious for going bad. Are you also suggesting that the Sony SW77 and the Sony 7600G and 7600GR are also cheap plastic junk? They all came after the 2010 and DX440. I think I remember you under some other names in the past. You seem to get your jollies by telling people their radios suck. Whatever. I think anyone who knows much about radios knows you're wrong. You have a right to your opinions. It's just that your blanket condemnations lack credibility. Mike MIKE, The Evolution of the "Cheap Plastic Junk" Anti-Radio-Man : * Sidwell Friends * Go Smith Whisper * Grundig Tecsun Eton Garba-ge ! * IBOC Sucks ! * NSA Reject NSA Reject * IBOC is a Crock / IBOC Crock -aka- I B OC'D and Half-Crocked * Pocket Radio While he currently 'claims' to be Anti-IBOC; when you Read most of his Posts here; you will find out for yourself that he is Anti 'Over-the-Air' Radio and Pro-New-Media. It Must Be 'Sad' To Be Him* - To Be Filled With Hate -and- Living A Painful Existance. * An iPodista [Bio-Unit] Fill With Hate for the Past-Time of 'common people' for a Hobby that they Enjoy. glad to be me and enjoying 'free' over-the-air radio ~ RHF |
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