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On Jan 7, 10:45 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
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Apparently the experience wasn't valuable enough to relieve you of the
perceived need to lie about your educational background and a dozen
other things.


My educational background is on my website, verifiable and correct.


Yes, but the problem is your website seems to change with every change
in wind direction.

Most wdebsites are updated or expanded. The dates and facts, thoush, do not
change.


On the other hand, your claim of interference to every and all NYC radio
stations IS a big, fat lie.


I just checked again and no, it is not a lie.

Funny how not one station in the market has made an FCC complaint, listening
levels have not changed, and nobody else has mentioned this.

Tinfoil hat time.


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On Jan 8, 12:09*am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message

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On Jan 7, 10:45 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:

"Steve" wrote in message


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Apparently the experience wasn't valuable enough to relieve you of the
perceived need to lie about your educational background and a dozen
other things.


My educational background is on my website, verifiable and correct.


Yes, but the problem is your website seems to change with every change
in wind direction.

Most wdebsites are updated or expanded. The dates and facts, thoush, do not
change.


You are incorrect. The "facts" are in a constant state of flux on your
site.


On the other hand, your claim of interference to every and all NYC radio
stations IS a big, fat lie.


I just checked again and no, it is not a lie.

Funny how not one station in the market has made an FCC complaint, listening
levels have not changed, and nobody else has mentioned this.


Plenty of people are talking about it. Perhaps the problem is that no
one is listening.


Tinfoil hat time.


Good luck finding one that fits.
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On Jan 8, 12:09 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:

Funny how not one station in the market has made an FCC complaint,
listening
levels have not changed, and nobody else has mentioned this.


Plenty of people are talking about it. Perhaps the problem is that no
one is listening.

Describe a couple of these supposedly plentiful cases of NYC stations being
interferred with inside their interference free contours.

You can't because there are no cases.

The mere fact that the ratings, which came out 15 minutes ago, show no
changes in listening levels in the NY market, disproves your point.



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Funny how not one station in the market has made an FCC complaint,
listening
levels have not changed, and nobody else has mentioned this.


Plenty of people are talking about it. Perhaps the problem is that no
one is listening.

Describe a couple of these supposedly plentiful cases of NYC stations being
interferred with inside their interference free contours.


Pick any two NYC AM stations and I'll check them out.


You can't because there are no cases.


You are incorrect. I'm listening to plenty of them right now.


The mere fact that the ratings, which came out 15 minutes ago, show no
changes in listening levels in the NY market, disproves your point.


It's an amazing "rating" that can "disprove" the truth. Very lame even
by your anemic standards.
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On Jan 8, 10:18 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message

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On Jan 8, 12:09 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:



Funny how not one station in the market has made an FCC complaint,
listening
levels have not changed, and nobody else has mentioned this.


Plenty of people are talking about it. Perhaps the problem is that no
one is listening.

Describe a couple of these supposedly plentiful cases of NYC stations
being
interferred with inside their interference free contours.


Pick any two NYC AM stations and I'll check them out.

WADO and WCAA.


You can't because there are no cases.


You are incorrect. I'm listening to plenty of them right now.

Unless you are talking about the interference caused by dimmers, computers
and the like (which only affects AM... which is only about 19% of the
listening to radio in NYC), there is no interference.

What is the cause of this alleged interference?


The mere fact that the ratings, which came out 15 minutes ago, show no
changes in listening levels in the NY market, disproves your point.


It's an amazing "rating" that can "disprove" the truth. Very lame even
by your anemic standards.

Were there interference that made radio unpleasant to listen to, the overall
PUR (Persons Using radio) would decline as people listened less or not at
all and picked other forms of entertainment. Ratings also quantify the
number of persons using radio and the time they listen, so any such problem
would be immediately shown.




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On Jan 8, 10:56*am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
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On Jan 8, 10:18 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:





"Steve" wrote in message


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On Jan 8, 12:09 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:


Funny how not one station in the market has made an FCC complaint,
listening
levels have not changed, and nobody else has mentioned this.


Plenty of people are talking about it. Perhaps the problem is that no
one is listening.


Describe a couple of these supposedly plentiful cases of NYC stations
being
interferred with inside their interference free contours.


Pick any two NYC AM stations and I'll check them out.

WADO and WCAA.


Both sound terrible from IBOC splatter.


The mere fact that the ratings, which came out 15 minutes ago, show no
changes in listening levels in the NY market, disproves your point.


It's an amazing "rating" that can "disprove" the truth. Very lame even
by your anemic standards.

Were there interference that made radio unpleasant to listen to, the overall
PUR (Persons Using radio) would decline as people listened less or not at
all and picked other forms of entertainment.


I think the poor programming has already made the radio so unpleasant
to listen to that interference can now do little additional harm.

Ratings also quantify the
number of persons using radio and the time they listen, so any such problem
would be immediately shown.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Yes, they'd better develop a better methodology as it obviously isn't
working.
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"Steve" wrote in message
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On Jan 8, 12:09 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:

Funny how not one station in the market has made an FCC complaint,
listening
levels have not changed, and nobody else has mentioned this.


Plenty of people are talking about it. Perhaps the problem is that no
one is listening.

Describe a couple of these supposedly plentiful cases of NYC stations being
interferred with inside their interference free contours.

You can't because there are no cases.

The mere fact that the ratings, which came out 15 minutes ago, show no
changes in listening levels in the NY market, disproves your point.


This reminds me the argument we had where you posted that I had to be
lying about the signal strength of stations I was receiving on AMBCB.

You ever make it up this way with a portable radio?

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In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Steve" wrote in message
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On Jan 8, 12:09 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:

Funny how not one station in the market has made an FCC complaint,
listening
levels have not changed, and nobody else has mentioned this.


Plenty of people are talking about it. Perhaps the problem is that no
one is listening.

Describe a couple of these supposedly plentiful cases of NYC stations
being
interferred with inside their interference free contours.

You can't because there are no cases.

The mere fact that the ratings, which came out 15 minutes ago, show no
changes in listening levels in the NY market, disproves your point.


This reminds me the argument we had where you posted that I had to be
lying about the signal strength of stations I was receiving on AMBCB.

You ever make it up this way with a portable radio?


Again, simply: Inside the 10 mv/m contour for AM and the 64 dbu contour for
FM is where about 95% of all listening takes place, irrespective of whether
the areas beyond the contour are highly populated or rural. Listeners do no
tune to weak signals.

The fact that you can hear a station does not mean any local listeners will
tune to it. That is because what may be easy for you to tune, and of
acceptable strength, is not for nearly everyone else. Whether it is New York
or Florida or Texas or Puerto Rico, carefully tabulated diary returns show
where listening takes place, and it is almost entirely inside the named
contours.


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"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
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In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Steve" wrote in message
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On Jan 8, 12:09 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:

Funny how not one station in the market has made an FCC complaint,
listening
levels have not changed, and nobody else has mentioned this.

Plenty of people are talking about it. Perhaps the problem is that no
one is listening.

Describe a couple of these supposedly plentiful cases of NYC stations
being
interferred with inside their interference free contours.

You can't because there are no cases.

The mere fact that the ratings, which came out 15 minutes ago, show no
changes in listening levels in the NY market, disproves your point.


This reminds me the argument we had where you posted that I had to be
lying about the signal strength of stations I was receiving on AMBCB.

You ever make it up this way with a portable radio?


Again, simply: Inside the 10 mv/m contour for AM and the 64 dbu contour for
FM is where about 95% of all listening takes place, irrespective of whether
the areas beyond the contour are highly populated or rural. Listeners do no
tune to weak signals.


And again I'm not talking about weak signals. Strong signals that are
picked up with no background noise on a PORTABLE RADIO with its INTERNAL
antenna. The table top radios were just used as a reference because it
has a signal strength meter.

The fact that you can hear a station does not mean any local listeners will
tune to it. That is because what may be easy for you to tune, and of
acceptable strength, is not for nearly everyone else. Whether it is New York
or Florida or Texas or Puerto Rico, carefully tabulated diary returns show
where listening takes place, and it is almost entirely inside the named
contours.


I don't much time listening to weak signals. I don't care for putting up
with noise.

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Ventura, California
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