Day 3 : RHF = Idiocy & Brain Damage -Continues- Damn Roy
 

"RHF" wrote in message

Get a life, how long did it take to put all this together?

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Burr

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D Peter Maus wrote:
oneway wrote:

D Peter Maus wrote:

oneway wrote:

D Peter Maus wrote:

wrote:

On Jan 15, 4:07 pm, D Peter Maus

There's a lot of personality, here, too. Truth is, Roy has
most of
it. But if Roy chooses to make a career out of participating in this
group....so what? If he's got the time and the resources....God
Bless him.

The question is....what does it matter to YOU?



+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
It matters because his compulsive posting of irrelevant bs has
driven
away many shortwave enthusiasts who visit daily and contribute
regularly to the group. Most no longer bother to even read the group
much less post because they have long ago tired of the little clique
of posters who now dominate the group.

It's like the friendly neighborhood bar that everyone that mattered
once enjoyed gathering that gets taken over by a few obnoxious
drunks. The change in atmosphere is almost imperceptible because it
happens over time. One by one the regulars stop dropping in and soon
the only patrons are the obnoxious loud mouthed few and the bar soon
goes bankrupt.

So yes, it matters sir.





Then you serious need to refocus your priorities. If you can be
run off by one poster's style...I'm guessing shortwave wouldn't be
your best choice of avocation.



The question for you Peter, is why do posters like Roy, Burr, Steve
and others get a pass from you when they are the source for most of
the OT garbage on this group? My guess is that you secretly support
their politics and world views but don't want to admitt it here. You
didn't use to be like that in the good old days. You made mostly
useful contributions and rarely responded to the OT posts. Now you
almost encourage them. What happened?
(Hint: 'nothing happened' is not an acceptable answer)




Yeah, back in the 40's, I was quite the stickler for the rules. You
know, back in the good ol' days, Univac, tube routers, and secret
messages over AM radio to subversive forces identified only with
decoder rings....I was all about the topic, wasn't I.

Wow. Even I don't recognize me anymore. Perhaps that's why I can't
get laid.

Well, time for some new flannel shirts, eh?



:::::Hmmm....I wonder where the dog is......::::


Nice dodge. I guess the answer is yes, you do agree with them and
that's why they get a pass for disrupting the group with their BS.

BTW- The dog abandoned this group too. You can find him at one of the
Yahoo groups.




Actually, she died. But thanks.

The point is, your question has no valid answer, so I'm not going to
bother providing one. Nor, since you seem to be fine carrying on both
sides of the conversation, is there any need for me to do so.

If you go back and read the history, and read it closely, you'll see
that the premise of your question is incorrect on it's face.

"Nothing happened" not being an acceptable answer is an interesting
condition. Because the truth is: Nothing happened.

Sorry to hear about your dog but why are you still looking for her?
Doesn't sound good.

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Telamon wrote:
In article GZkjj.11457$cz3.4205@trnddc06,
oneway wrote:


D Peter Maus wrote:

wrote:


On Jan 15, 4:07 pm, D Peter Maus


There's a lot of personality, here, too. Truth is, Roy has
most of
it. But if Roy chooses to make a career out of participating in
this group....so what? If he's got the time and the
resources....God Bless him.

The question is....what does it matter to YOU?

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
It matters because his compulsive posting of irrelevant bs has
driven
away many shortwave enthusiasts who visit daily and contribute
regularly to the group. Most no longer bother to even read the
group much less post because they have long ago tired of the
little clique of posters who now dominate the group.

It's like the friendly neighborhood bar that everyone that
mattered
once enjoyed gathering that gets taken over by a few obnoxious
drunks. The change in atmosphere is almost imperceptible because
it happens over time. One by one the regulars stop dropping in and
soon the only patrons are the obnoxious loud mouthed few and the
bar soon goes bankrupt.

So yes, it matters sir.



Then you serious need to refocus your priorities. If you can be
run
off by one poster's style...I'm guessing shortwave wouldn't be your
best choice of avocation.

The question for you Peter, is why do posters like Roy, Burr, Steve
and others get a pass from you when they are the source for most of
the OT garbage on this group? My guess is that you secretly support
their politics and world views but don't want to admitt it here. You
didn't use to be like that in the good old days. You made mostly
useful contributions and rarely responded to the OT posts. Now you
almost encourage them. What happened? (Hint: 'nothing happened' is
not an acceptable answer)


Nice Trolling whine you got going there.

Sounds like the shoe found a fit. Feeling a little guilty eh?

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Michael Black wrote:

Some bozo who constantly yammers on, posting when he usually has little
to say, posting links rather than real comments, posting in a completely
unreadable style, constantly changing subject headers, playing
"moderator" when his skill is so horrific that it only makes things
worse, and being a big source of the animosity here, well that defines
the state of the newsgroup. "RHF" isn't the only one, but he certainly
enables the other junk posters.

Wade through the off topic posts, the political bickering and admonishments,
and there isn't much here. Far better for the yammerers to be silent for
a time than to constantly spew. And yes, you will see three or four
posters, including the bozo "RHF", in the thick of all that drivel.

There was a time when if someone asked a simple question, they'd be
told to look it up themselves. But nowadays, this newsgroup is full
of people who do that work for the lazy, merely posting links. And
when people do that, who's to know whether they know anything or not?
There is no value in posting such links, because the original poster
should be doing that work themselves. But instead, we get all these
link posters, and nobody around to really address the question that
may not be properly asked.

The only reason this bozo RHF is getting accolades is because
the newsgroup has decayed so much that many have left, and a new
wave that doesn't know better has moved in. SOmeone who can't keep
his mouth shut is bound to dominate a newsgroup, and that's what people
are reacting to. Look between the lines, and there is little of substance
there, and the only reason he becomes a "valuable source" is because the
good posters of the old days have faded away, so there's nothing better
than a bozo posting links.

A newsgroup is not healthy if only a handful dominate. Drive off a wide
range of readers, and the newsgroup declines, because as long as people
are reading a newsgroup, they may reply when they actually have something
to add, so some obscure topic gets a real answer instead of another
stupid link. Or that person who only replies a few times a year may
have some obscure bit of knowledge that few know, so if they tune out,
there goes the knowledge.

It's telling that the bozo RHF never looks things up in this newsgroup,
he's constantly linking to other sources of information.

Congratulations, you've written the definitive comment on the state of
this group. It's become a perfect example of the lowest common
denominator principle. Like yourself, I used to make numerous on-topic
posts but it's hardly worth the effort anymore. The moderated groups on
Yahoo and others are a breath of fresh air compared to here. I encourage
everyone who is fed up with this group to check out the alternatives.
Maybe someone here, (guess who) will give us a list of all of them, ad
nauseam. What alternative shortwave topical groups do you like?

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oneway wrote:

Michael Black wrote:

Some bozo who constantly yammers on, posting when he usually has little
to say, posting links rather than real comments, posting in a completely
unreadable style, constantly changing subject headers, playing
"moderator" when his skill is so horrific that it only makes things
worse, and being a big source of the animosity here, well that defines
the state of the newsgroup. "RHF" isn't the only one, but he certainly
enables the other junk posters.

Wade through the off topic posts, the political bickering and admonishments,
and there isn't much here. Far better for the yammerers to be silent for
a time than to constantly spew. And yes, you will see three or four
posters, including the bozo "RHF", in the thick of all that drivel.

There was a time when if someone asked a simple question, they'd be
told to look it up themselves. But nowadays, this newsgroup is full
of people who do that work for the lazy, merely posting links. And
when people do that, who's to know whether they know anything or not?
There is no value in posting such links, because the original poster
should be doing that work themselves. But instead, we get all these
link posters, and nobody around to really address the question that
may not be properly asked.

The only reason this bozo RHF is getting accolades is because
the newsgroup has decayed so much that many have left, and a new
wave that doesn't know better has moved in. SOmeone who can't keep
his mouth shut is bound to dominate a newsgroup, and that's what people
are reacting to. Look between the lines, and there is little of substance
there, and the only reason he becomes a "valuable source" is because the
good posters of the old days have faded away, so there's nothing better
than a bozo posting links.

A newsgroup is not healthy if only a handful dominate. Drive off a wide
range of readers, and the newsgroup declines, because as long as people
are reading a newsgroup, they may reply when they actually have something
to add, so some obscure topic gets a real answer instead of another
stupid link. Or that person who only replies a few times a year may
have some obscure bit of knowledge that few know, so if they tune out,
there goes the knowledge.

It's telling that the bozo RHF never looks things up in this newsgroup,
he's constantly linking to other sources of information.

Congratulations, you've written the definitive comment on the state of
this group. It's become a perfect example of the lowest common
denominator principle.

Like yourself, I used to make numerous on-topic
posts but it's hardly worth the effort anymore.

Of course not! Like most of the debutante, malcontent, and faux posters you'd
actually rather sit and whine.

In reality, you probably don't have anything to contribute anyway.

A tip for you: Nobody, and I mean NOBODY is stopping YOU from posting ANYTHING.

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On Jan 17, 4:18Â*pm, Mike wrote:
On Jan 17, 11:25�am, David wrote:





Mike wrote:
David wrote:
Why not just post a link to the Google results page, instead of posting
each individual site?

Why not follow rules for punctuation? �Those of us with licenses know
the rules require that communications be as clear as possible, in the
interest of keeping monkey chatter to a minimum.

(Now, Google "monkey chatter" for everyone.)

I can go back 5 years and find the same RHF posts.

What's so wrong with posting individual URLs? If you aren't interested
in the info, why bother clicking on it? Newbies, the ones that might
benefit the most from such actions, may not understand how to properly
conduct a wide-ranging search. Sometimes the search engines bury you
in URLs unrelated to what you're looking for. Castigating RHF and
DXAce simply because they post links seems to be focusing negativity
on the MOST USEFUL things those guys do in here. You'd think that you,
more than most, would be encouraging these guys to spend more time
posting links instead of ridiculing YOU daily.

Punctuation? I teach public speaking and I find that most people that
even try to have perfect grammar are suffering from delusions
regarding their own self-grandeur. Understandability is the key and I
don't have any problem understanding what RHF is trying to say. He may
not be the best speller in the world, but his efforts at disseminating
antenna info hardly are suffering from any non-standard spelling or
punctuation. There are many contributors in here with good punctuation
and spelling, but nothing of any real value to read.

If you go back five years, you'll see that RHF was posting DIFFERENT
links back then. To be honest, I think the quality of his links has
improved significantly. To be honest, going back three years doesn't
show a whole lot of evolution transpiring in your posts. Talk about
"monkey chatter"....

To be honest, RRS is infinitely better than it was in the mid-90s. The
racists and neo-Nazis that use to make about half the posts in here
have disappeared. If you don't like RRS, there are now plenty of other
places (with moderation!) where �you can get info.

Do you really believe, David, that your own posts convey as much
valuable info as do at least some of the posts of Steve and Roy? I'm
truly sorry that you've been picked on as much as you have, but your
posts are NOT the reason I've been reading this RRS without posting.

MWBRYANT

I know I'm way less rude than DX Asshole. �I know that proper
punctuation facilitates easier communications, especially for the
visually impaired. �I know that throwing up a bunch of information, some
of it contradicting other of it, is not as helpful as when someone
speaks from personal experience.

1. Passive aggression can be as irritating (and as ridiculous) as
direct aggression. Both some of the most evil and stupid people I've
ever met were far less rude than Steve Lare. Even rude people can be
useful sources of information. (Thanks for today's Top News link,
Steve!)
2. I'm visually impaired. Check the archives. My R-75 has the voice
mod. RHF's stuff don't bother me. Why do you feel that you speak for
the visually-disabled?
3. You would think that a professional pseudo-journalist, like
yourself, would realize that providing contradictory links shows
respect for democratic free choice. Let the reader discern which they
choose to believe.
4. If the filter is going to be that we should be limited to
discussing
only that which is experienced-based, why are you still here? Are you
really suggesting that your real experience with shortwave radio comes
anywhere near the real-world DXing experience of Steve Lare or the
real antenna info being facilitated by RHF? I think these guys are
winning on the level of who has the most useful personal experiences
to convey.

David, exactly, what is your role in the community, again? Are you
here to tell us that we're members of a dead hobby?

Congratulations.

MWBRYANT- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

***CLAPPING HANDS*** - - - Great post Mike. Good to see you in here
again. DX waving a hand.

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BCBlazysusan wrote:

On Jan 17, 4:18Â pm, Mike wrote:
On Jan 17, 11:25�am, David wrote:





Mike wrote:
David wrote:
Why not just post a link to the Google results page, instead of posting
each individual site?

Why not follow rules for punctuation? �Those of us with licenses know
the rules require that communications be as clear as possible, in the
interest of keeping monkey chatter to a minimum.

(Now, Google "monkey chatter" for everyone.)

I can go back 5 years and find the same RHF posts.

What's so wrong with posting individual URLs? If you aren't interested
in the info, why bother clicking on it? Newbies, the ones that might
benefit the most from such actions, may not understand how to properly
conduct a wide-ranging search. Sometimes the search engines bury you
in URLs unrelated to what you're looking for. Castigating RHF and
DXAce simply because they post links seems to be focusing negativity
on the MOST USEFUL things those guys do in here. You'd think that you,
more than most, would be encouraging these guys to spend more time
posting links instead of ridiculing YOU daily.

Punctuation? I teach public speaking and I find that most people that
even try to have perfect grammar are suffering from delusions
regarding their own self-grandeur. Understandability is the key and I
don't have any problem understanding what RHF is trying to say. He may
not be the best speller in the world, but his efforts at disseminating
antenna info hardly are suffering from any non-standard spelling or
punctuation. There are many contributors in here with good punctuation
and spelling, but nothing of any real value to read.

If you go back five years, you'll see that RHF was posting DIFFERENT
links back then. To be honest, I think the quality of his links has
improved significantly. To be honest, going back three years doesn't
show a whole lot of evolution transpiring in your posts. Talk about
"monkey chatter"....

To be honest, RRS is infinitely better than it was in the mid-90s. The
racists and neo-Nazis that use to make about half the posts in here
have disappeared. If you don't like RRS, there are now plenty of other
places (with moderation!) where �you can get info.

Do you really believe, David, that your own posts convey as much
valuable info as do at least some of the posts of Steve and Roy? I'm
truly sorry that you've been picked on as much as you have, but your
posts are NOT the reason I've been reading this RRS without posting.

MWBRYANT

I know I'm way less rude than DX Asshole. �I know that proper
punctuation facilitates easier communications, especially for the
visually impaired. �I know that throwing up a bunch of information, some
of it contradicting other of it, is not as helpful as when someone
speaks from personal experience.

1. Passive aggression can be as irritating (and as ridiculous) as
direct aggression. Both some of the most evil and stupid people I've
ever met were far less rude than Steve Lare. Even rude people can be
useful sources of information. (Thanks for today's Top News link,
Steve!)
2. I'm visually impaired. Check the archives. My R-75 has the voice
mod. RHF's stuff don't bother me. Why do you feel that you speak for
the visually-disabled?
3. You would think that a professional pseudo-journalist, like
yourself, would realize that providing contradictory links shows
respect for democratic free choice. Let the reader discern which they
choose to believe.
4. If the filter is going to be that we should be limited to
discussing
only that which is experienced-based, why are you still here? Are you
really suggesting that your real experience with shortwave radio comes
anywhere near the real-world DXing experience of Steve Lare or the
real antenna info being facilitated by RHF? I think these guys are
winning on the level of who has the most useful personal experiences
to convey.

David, exactly, what is your role in the community, again? Are you
here to tell us that we're members of a dead hobby?

Congratulations.

MWBRYANT- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

***CLAPPING HANDS*** - - - Great post Mike. Good to see you in here
again. DX waving a hand.

Oh great! A big welcome back to another faux individual! The guy who claimed to be
a PhD!

Now, he claims to be 'visually impaired'. Ask him, and ask the State of Kentucky
if he has a drivers license.

Crap, I wear glasses, therefore, I must be 'visually impaired' as well.

Cry me a f00kin river.

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oneway wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote:
oneway wrote:

D Peter Maus wrote:

oneway wrote:

D Peter Maus wrote:

wrote:

On Jan 15, 4:07 pm, D Peter Maus

There's a lot of personality, here, too. Truth is, Roy has
most of
it. But if Roy chooses to make a career out of participating in
this
group....so what? If he's got the time and the resources....God
Bless him.

The question is....what does it matter to YOU?



+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
It matters because his compulsive posting of irrelevant bs has
driven
away many shortwave enthusiasts who visit daily and contribute
regularly to the group. Most no longer bother to even read the group
much less post because they have long ago tired of the little clique
of posters who now dominate the group.

It's like the friendly neighborhood bar that everyone that
mattered
once enjoyed gathering that gets taken over by a few obnoxious
drunks. The change in atmosphere is almost imperceptible because it
happens over time. One by one the regulars stop dropping in and
soon
the only patrons are the obnoxious loud mouthed few and the bar soon
goes bankrupt.

So yes, it matters sir.





Then you serious need to refocus your priorities. If you can be
run off by one poster's style...I'm guessing shortwave wouldn't be
your best choice of avocation.



The question for you Peter, is why do posters like Roy, Burr, Steve
and others get a pass from you when they are the source for most of
the OT garbage on this group? My guess is that you secretly support
their politics and world views but don't want to admitt it here.
You didn't use to be like that in the good old days. You made
mostly useful contributions and rarely responded to the OT posts.
Now you almost encourage them. What happened?
(Hint: 'nothing happened' is not an acceptable answer)




Yeah, back in the 40's, I was quite the stickler for the rules.
You know, back in the good ol' days, Univac, tube routers, and
secret messages over AM radio to subversive forces identified only
with decoder rings....I was all about the topic, wasn't I.

Wow. Even I don't recognize me anymore. Perhaps that's why I can't
get laid.

Well, time for some new flannel shirts, eh?



:::::Hmmm....I wonder where the dog is......::::


Nice dodge. I guess the answer is yes, you do agree with them and
that's why they get a pass for disrupting the group with their BS.

BTW- The dog abandoned this group too. You can find him at one of the
Yahoo groups.




Actually, she died. But thanks.

The point is, your question has no valid answer, so I'm not going to
bother providing one. Nor, since you seem to be fine carrying on both
sides of the conversation, is there any need for me to do so.

If you go back and read the history, and read it closely, you'll see
that the premise of your question is incorrect on it's face.

"Nothing happened" not being an acceptable answer is an interesting
condition. Because the truth is: Nothing happened.

Sorry to hear about your dog but why are you still looking for her?
Doesn't sound good.


Always been a big fan of the X-Files.

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Mike wrote:
On Jan 17, 11:25�am, David wrote:
Mike wrote:
David wrote:
Why not just post a link to the Google results page, instead of posting
each individual site?
Why not follow rules for punctuation? �Those of us with licenses know
the rules require that communications be as clear as possible, in the
interest of keeping monkey chatter to a minimum.
(Now, Google "monkey chatter" for everyone.)
I can go back 5 years and find the same RHF posts.
What's so wrong with posting individual URLs? If you aren't interested
in the info, why bother clicking on it? Newbies, the ones that might
benefit the most from such actions, may not understand how to properly
conduct a wide-ranging search. Sometimes the search engines bury you
in URLs unrelated to what you're looking for. Castigating RHF and
DXAce simply because they post links seems to be focusing negativity
on the MOST USEFUL things those guys do in here. You'd think that you,
more than most, would be encouraging these guys to spend more time
posting links instead of ridiculing YOU daily.
Punctuation? I teach public speaking and I find that most people that
even try to have perfect grammar are suffering from delusions
regarding their own self-grandeur. Understandability is the key and I
don't have any problem understanding what RHF is trying to say. He may
not be the best speller in the world, but his efforts at disseminating
antenna info hardly are suffering from any non-standard spelling or
punctuation. There are many contributors in here with good punctuation
and spelling, but nothing of any real value to read.
If you go back five years, you'll see that RHF was posting DIFFERENT
links back then. To be honest, I think the quality of his links has
improved significantly. To be honest, going back three years doesn't
show a whole lot of evolution transpiring in your posts. Talk about
"monkey chatter"....
To be honest, RRS is infinitely better than it was in the mid-90s. The
racists and neo-Nazis that use to make about half the posts in here
have disappeared. If you don't like RRS, there are now plenty of other
places (with moderation!) where �you can get info.
Do you really believe, David, that your own posts convey as much
valuable info as do at least some of the posts of Steve and Roy? I'm
truly sorry that you've been picked on as much as you have, but your
posts are NOT the reason I've been reading this RRS without posting.
MWBRYANT
I know I'm way less rude than DX Asshole. �I know that proper
punctuation facilitates easier communications, especially for the
visually impaired. �I know that throwing up a bunch of information, some
of it contradicting other of it, is not as helpful as when someone
speaks from personal experience.


1. Passive aggression can be as irritating (and as ridiculous) as
direct aggression. Both some of the most evil and stupid people I've
ever met were far less rude than Steve Lare. Even rude people can be
useful sources of information. (Thanks for today's Top News link,
Steve!)
2. I'm visually impaired. Check the archives. My R-75 has the voice
mod. RHF's stuff don't bother me. Why do you feel that you speak for
the visually-disabled?
3. You would think that a professional pseudo-journalist, like
yourself, would realize that providing contradictory links shows
respect for democratic free choice. Let the reader discern which they
choose to believe.
4. If the filter is going to be that we should be limited to
discussing
only that which is experienced-based, why are you still here? Are you
really suggesting that your real experience with shortwave radio comes
anywhere near the real-world DXing experience of Steve Lare or the
real antenna info being facilitated by RHF? I think these guys are
winning on the level of who has the most useful personal experiences
to convey.

David, exactly, what is your role in the community, again? Are you
here to tell us that we're members of a dead hobby?

Congratulations.

MWBRYANT



I have no idea what RHF's personal knowledge of antennas entails. I
know he puts up links to antennas that don't work very well, are
sometimes overpriced, etc. He just seems to be repeating things.

FYI I used to provide the bulk of EE language loggings for a now-defunct
DXer magazine. I logged Tahiti's little flea-power on 15.XXX in
downtown Houston, in the daytime, on one of my 2 R-390As, and my 120'
steel random wire. Confirmed.

This was back in the late '80s, when the Sun was spottin' and the Cold
War has hoppin'. SWBC was still viable back then. GHFS was almost as
entertaining. Since then, it's been steadily downhill, both
propagation-wise and target wise.

The cultural aspect of SWL cannot be disregarded and frankly I'm shocked
that so many "American" people here are listening to other cultures but
not hearing the message. The USA is a rogue nation. The USA is the
greatest threat to world peace. What! Impossible!

I make no apologies for being annoying to bigots.

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Mike wrote:

2. I'm visually impaired. Check the archives. My R-75 has the voice
mod. RHF's stuff don't bother me. Why do you feel that you speak for
the visually-disabled?

I don't know what you mean by this, and I don't care enough to"check the
archives". I'm 58 and have to wear reading glasses. I am a speed
reader and rely heavily on capital letters being confined to proper
names and the first letter of a sentence. I don't expect midair hyphens
and tildes.

As communications hobbyists we should respect the rules of
communications. Do that "artsy" **** somewhere else.