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Anyone know the current status of the HD radio implementation that has
been forced upon us? How many receivers were sold during the Xmas season? How many new stations have started or terminated transmitting? How long will it take fior the noise to stop, etc? jw |
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On Jan 22, 9:49*am, Rfburns wrote:
Anyone know the current status of the HD radio implementation that has been forced upon us? *How many receivers were sold during the Xmas season? *How many new stations have started or terminated transmitting? *How long will it take fior the noise to stop, etc? jw no, but i did listen to the new sony hd tabletop radio at the store in manhattan and it sounded awesome. it was the 1st time I truly heard a difference and it was substantial. |
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On Jan 22, 12:49*pm, Rfburns wrote:
Anyone know the current status of the HD radio implementation that has been forced upon us? *How many receivers were sold during the Xmas season? *How many new stations have started or terminated transmitting? *How long will it take fior the noise to stop, etc? jw I think the number is 7 to 9...somewhere in that range. |
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On Jan 22, 12:49*pm, Rfburns wrote:
Anyone know the current status of the HD radio implementation that has been forced upon us? *How many receivers were sold during the Xmas season? *How many new stations have started or terminated transmitting? *How long will it take fior the noise to stop, etc? jw This is the best summary that you will find: http://hdradiofarce.blogspot.com/ |
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On Jan 22, 10:34*am, "tom k in L.A." wrote:
On Jan 22, 9:49*am, Rfburns wrote: Anyone know the current status of the HD radio implementation that has been forced upon us? *How many receivers were sold during the Xmas season? *How many new stations have started or terminated transmitting? *How long will it take fior the noise to stop, etc? jw - no, but i did listen to the new sony hd tabletop radio - at the store in manhattan and it sounded awesome. -*it was the 1st time I truly heard a difference and it - was substantial. Tom K in LA, Were you listening to an AM "HD" {Digital} Broadcast ? -or- FM "HD" {Digital} Broadcast ? ~ RHF |
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On Jan 22, 9:49*am, Rfburns wrote:
Anyone know the current status of the HD radio implementation that has been forced upon us? *How many receivers were sold during the Xmas season? *How many new stations have started or terminated transmitting? *How long will it take fior the noise to stop, etc? jw Question : iBiquity HD Radio Status -by- RF Burns Rec.Radio.Shortwave Newsgroup http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...8b5a11ac383f1c HD Radio Sales Approaching Half-a-Million Units To Date : Oops That Is The Same Number For Two Years In A Row. http://groups.google.com/group/hd-ra...b9c662cab5e370 Dec 2006 - HD Radio Sales approaching Half-a-Million Units to Date. Dec 2007 - HD Radio Sales approaching Half-a-Million Units to Date. Oops That Can't Be Right ~ RHF HD Radio Progress Report - December 17, 2007 in HD Radio http://www.hear2.com/2007/12/hd-radio-progre.html -source- Hear 2 .Com HD Radio's New Campaign http://jacobsmedia.typepad.com/jacob...ios-new-1.html Thursday, December 20, 2007 in HD Radio, Marketing, Radio -source- Jacobs Media .Com |
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On Jan 22, 7:07*pm, RHF wrote:
On Jan 22, 9:49*am, Rfburns wrote: Anyone know the current status of the HD radio implementation that has been forced upon us? *How many receivers were sold during the Xmas season? *How many new stations have started or terminated transmitting? *How long will it take fior the noise to stop, etc? jw Question : iBiquity HD Radio Status -by- RF Burns Rec.Radio.Shortwave Newsgrouphttp://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/748b5a11ac383f1c HD Radio Sales Approaching Half-a-Million Units To Date : Oops That Is The Same Number For Two Years In A Row.http://groups.google.com/group/hd-ra...b9c662cab5e370 Dec 2006 - HD Radio Sales approaching Half-a-Million Units to Date. Dec 2007 - HD Radio Sales approaching Half-a-Million Units to Date. Oops That Can't Be Right ~ RHF HD Radio Progress Report - December 17, 2007 in HD Radiohttp://www.hear2.com/2007/12/hd-radio-progre.html -source- Hear 2 .Com HD Radio's New Campaignhttp://jacobsmedia.typepad.com/jacobs/2007/12/hd-radios-new-1.html Thursday, December 20, 2007 in HD Radio, Marketing, Radio -source- Jacobs Media .Com *. hy dee ray-dee-oh ~ RHF Hello and Welcome to the "HD Radio" NewsGroup HD RADIO =http://groups.google.com/group/hd-radio/ *. HD radio is what happens when desperation is substituted for sound business strategy. |
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, "tom k in L.A." wrote: On Jan 22, 9:49*am, Rfburns wrote: Anyone know the current status of the HD radio implementation that has been forced upon us? *How many receivers were sold during the Xmas season? *How many new stations have started or terminated transmitting? *How long will it take fior the noise to stop, etc? jw no, but i did listen to the new sony hd tabletop radio at the store in manhattan and it sounded awesome. it was the 1st time I truly heard a difference and it was substantial. They were probably playing a CD connected to the AUX inputs. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
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tom k in L.A. wrote:
On Jan 22, 9:49 am, Rfburns wrote: Anyone know the current status of the HD radio implementation that has been forced upon us? How many receivers were sold during the Xmas season? How many new stations have started or terminated transmitting? How long will it take fior the noise to stop, etc? jw no, but i did listen to the new sony hd tabletop radio at the store in manhattan and it sounded awesome. it was the 1st time I truly heard a difference and it was substantial. The audio compression gets fatiguing after a few minutes. After an hour, you're ready to kill. |
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On Jan 23, 5:54*am, David wrote:
tom k in L.A. wrote: On Jan 22, 9:49 am, Rfburns wrote: Anyone know the current status of the HD radio implementation that has been forced upon us? *How many receivers were sold during the Xmas season? *How many new stations have started or terminated transmitting? *How long will it take fior the noise to stop, etc? jw no, but i did listen to the new sony hd tabletop radio at the store in manhattan and it sounded awesome. *it was the 1st time I truly heard a difference and it was substantial. The audio compression gets fatiguing after a few minutes. *After an hour, you're ready to kill. i hear you there...compressed audio is fatiguing |
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"tom k in L.A." wrote in message ... no, but i did listen to the new sony hd tabletop radio at the store in manhattan and it sounded awesome. it was the 1st time I truly heard a difference and it was substantial. Were you listening to an AM station or a FM station? Frank Dresser |
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"Rfburns" wrote in message ... [good questions snipped] How long will it take fior the noise to stop, etc? jw The IBOC noise won't stop until the broadcasters are convinced there is no worthwhile demand for either "HD/crystal clear" radio or subscription radio. I think pay radio has more potential than HD radio. Pay radio schemes don't have to leave the listeners with normal radios completely in the dark. NPR is supposed to be considering a plan in which a free channel and a subscription channel would mostly simulcast during pledge drives. But, when the pledge breaks comes up, the subscribers would hear normal programming and people with normal radios would hear something like "Pay up, you cheapskates, and you won't have to hear these damn beg-athons anymore!" Frank Dresser |
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Interesting thing about IBOC.............I e-mailed Senator Durbin about the
IBOC interference on the MW band. I did receive a reply yesterday, thanking me for bringing up my concerns. He talked about high prices of broadband internet, and everything EXCEPT IBOC. A true politician. Pete "Frank Dresser" wrote in message ... "Rfburns" wrote in message ... [good questions snipped] How long will it take fior the noise to stop, etc? jw The IBOC noise won't stop until the broadcasters are convinced there is no worthwhile demand for either "HD/crystal clear" radio or subscription radio. I think pay radio has more potential than HD radio. Pay radio schemes don't have to leave the listeners with normal radios completely in the dark. NPR is supposed to be considering a plan in which a free channel and a subscription channel would mostly simulcast during pledge drives. But, when the pledge breaks comes up, the subscribers would hear normal programming and people with normal radios would hear something like "Pay up, you cheapskates, and you won't have to hear these damn beg-athons anymore!" Frank Dresser |
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On Jan 24, 11:49*am, "Pete KE9OA" wrote:
- Interesting thing about IBOC............. - I e-mailed Senator Durbin about the IBOC interference - on the MW band. I did receive a reply yesterday, - thanking me for bringing up my concerns. - He talked about high prices of broadband internet, - and everything EXCEPT IBOC. A true politician. - - Pete - -Translation- American Citizen/Taxpayer - Your Concerns Do No Matter. As You Elected Leader - I Know What Is Good For You. the power elite ~ RHF |
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On Jan 24, 7:13*am, "Frank Dresser"
wrote: "tom k in L.A." wrote in ... no, but i did listen to the new sony hd tabletop radio at the store in manhattan and it sounded awesome. *it was the 1st time I truly heard a difference and it was substantial. - Were you listening to an AM station or a FM station? - - Frank Dresser FD - Lets Try One More Time ~ RHF Hello Tom K in LA, Were You Listening to an AM "HD" {Digital} Broadcast ? -or- Were You Listening to an FM "HD" {Digital} Broadcast ? ~ RHF |
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On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 09:49:31 -0800, Rfburns wrote:
Anyone know the current status of the HD radio implementation that has been forced upon us? How many receivers were sold during the Xmas season? How many new stations have started or terminated transmitting? How long will it take fior the noise to stop, etc? jw I have a Yamaha 4600 receiver and JVC car radio with HD radio. On AM, only 1190 KEX broadcasts in HD. KEX is a talk radio station with little stereo content. A few commercials are in stereo and they really jump out. HD audio sound quality is similar to analog on a 680NAB tuner. Quite a few FM stations have HD. I listen to all classical KBPS. Sound quality is indistinguishable between FM and HD except for the noise floor. KBPS compresses the HD signal just as much as the analog signal. The non HD AM reception on the JVC car radio sucks. Reception is weak and the audio is poor. HD sound is fine, but the least bit or powerline interferece knocks the radio back to muffled analog. HD FM on the JVC car radio is weak, dropping back to analog at the slightest provocation. I would like to see a Ramsey kit am transmitter with HD. -- /u/caf/signature.txt |
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"Pete KE9OA" wrote in message . .. Interesting thing about IBOC.............I e-mailed Senator Durbin about the IBOC interference on the MW band. I did receive a reply yesterday, thanking me for bringing up my concerns. He talked about high prices of broadband internet, and everything EXCEPT IBOC. A true politician. Pete Hmm. I'm sure if Senator Durbin had given this issue a moment's thought, he'd realize it's unfair to force poor people to pay for their IBOC radios. The Republicans would then counter that the only fair give-away would include guys like Warren Buffet and Bill Gates. Both parties would agree that it's grossly unfair to expect the current generation of voters to pay for anything, but we would be happy to borrow the money from our eternal pals, the Saudi Arabians and the Commie Chinese. Frank Dresser |
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Are there any HD radios that actually have a good AM front end. We have the
Boston Acoustic non-HD clock radio. While the AM band has very good sensitivity, the adjacent channel selectvity is a bit wide. Also, the LO isn't very clean....early evenings, I can hear 49 Meter stations coming in around 950kHz. This is because of mixer products occuring from the 5th harmonic of the LO. This is even while using an external tuned loop antenna. Inexcusably poor design, from an RF standpoint. I wanted to clean up the design a bit.........when I called Boston Acoustic and asked for a schematic, I was told "we don't release that kind of information". Translation? We want to continue selling junk to the public, and we don't want anybody improving our poor electrical design. Needless to say, I never bought another Boston Acoustic product. Come to think of it, their speakers were never anything to write home about either. Pete "Chuck Forsberg" wrote in message ... On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 09:49:31 -0800, Rfburns wrote: Anyone know the current status of the HD radio implementation that has been forced upon us? How many receivers were sold during the Xmas season? How many new stations have started or terminated transmitting? How long will it take fior the noise to stop, etc? jw I have a Yamaha 4600 receiver and JVC car radio with HD radio. On AM, only 1190 KEX broadcasts in HD. KEX is a talk radio station with little stereo content. A few commercials are in stereo and they really jump out. HD audio sound quality is similar to analog on a 680NAB tuner. Quite a few FM stations have HD. I listen to all classical KBPS. Sound quality is indistinguishable between FM and HD except for the noise floor. KBPS compresses the HD signal just as much as the analog signal. The non HD AM reception on the JVC car radio sucks. Reception is weak and the audio is poor. HD sound is fine, but the least bit or powerline interferece knocks the radio back to muffled analog. HD FM on the JVC car radio is weak, dropping back to analog at the slightest provocation. I would like to see a Ramsey kit am transmitter with HD. -- /u/caf/signature.txt |
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On Jan 25, 1:32*pm, "Pete KE9OA" wrote:
It would be nice if we actually had some leaders that actually care. He was one of 4 or 5 people in Congress that I e-mailed about this situation...........I never heard from any of the others. They must be to busy to listen to the people. Pete Pete - Now There Is A Bright Idea : Having The People's Elected Representatives Actually Listening To The People They Serve ! Nah It Will Never Work - The Power Élite Believe That Only They Know What Is Right For The People [.] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elite http://www.socialstudieshelp.com/APGOV_Power_Elite.htm "The Power Elite" -by- C.Wright Mills - Oxford Press, 1956 http://thirdworldtraveler.com/Book_E...owerElite.html power to the people - up with people ~ RHF |
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"Chuck Forsberg" wrote in message ... On AM, only 1190 KEX broadcasts in HD. KEX is a talk radio station with little stereo content. A few commercials are in stereo and they really jump out. HD audio sound quality is similar to analog on a 680NAB tuner. KEX and KGW used to sound great in AMS. Should have stuck with it. Quite a few FM stations have HD. I listen to all classical KBPS. Sound quality is indistinguishable between FM and HD except for the noise floor. KBPS compresses the HD signal just as much as the analog signal. I used to listen to KBPS (both AM and FM... AM mostly on my telephone, since I was about 4 blocks from Benson Tech) and KMHD quite a bit. Classical is getting very hard to find. Anyone who uses compression on classical should be strung between two of the antenna bays and covered with some substance that attracts eagles and hawks. The non HD AM reception on the JVC car radio sucks. Reception is weak and the audio is poor. HD sound is fine, but the least bit or powerline interferece knocks the radio back to muffled analog. HD FM on the JVC car radio is weak, dropping back to analog at the slightest provocation. I would like to see a Ramsey kit am transmitter with HD. I can see the range now.... connect the antenna directly to your radio for reception. :) I'd sooner see them do one for AMS... like the one that Chris Cuff built, but with a bit more range. |
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On Jan 22, 1:34�pm, "tom k in L.A." wrote:
On Jan 22, 9:49�am, Rfburns wrote: Anyone know the current status of the HD radio implementation that has been forced upon us? �How many receivers were sold during the Xmas season? �How many new stations have started or terminated transmitting? �How long will it take fior the noise to stop, etc? jw no, but i did listen to the new sony hd tabletop radio at the store in manhattan and it sounded awesome. �it was the 1st time I truly heard a difference and it was substantial. "Can Sony Make HD Radio A Winner?" "So, the old consumers don't want HD. Young consumers think the concept is laughable. Big retailers can't sell it. And radio companies won't invest in it. Sounds like a winner to me." http://insidemusicmedia.blogspot.com...io-winner.html Is this the Sony that looks like a car battery? LMFAO! |
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"Pete KE9OA" wrote: Interesting thing about IBOC.............I e-mailed Senator Durbin about the IBOC interference on the MW band. I did receive a reply yesterday, thanking me for bringing up my concerns. He talked about high prices of broadband internet, and everything EXCEPT IBOC. A true politician. Do you actually think HE read the letter and wrote the reply himself? Most likely, some aide or intern got the message and sent the wrong stock reply. |
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Sun Chaser wrote:
In article , "Pete KE9OA" wrote: Interesting thing about IBOC.............I e-mailed Senator Durbin about the IBOC interference on the MW band. I did receive a reply yesterday, thanking me for bringing up my concerns. He talked about high prices of broadband internet, and everything EXCEPT IBOC. A true politician. Do you actually think HE read the letter and wrote the reply himself? Most likely, some aide or intern got the message and sent the wrong stock reply. Durbin is pretty widely known to be kept isolated from outside influences, and is led around with the ring in his nose by his staff. It's very possible he's not aware of the interference caused by IBOC, and has, instead adopted the position of acceptance handed him by, as you said, an aide, or associate pursuant to political agendae, and contributorship. Durbin is one of the slimiest of the Illinois politicians, and like our beloved Governor (nice hair, not much under it-----thank you G.Gordon Liddy) is prone to say whatever he needs to say to get critics off his back. And then forget the conversation before the words have died in the room. |
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On Jan 26, 10:25*am, D Peter Maus wrote:
Sun Chaser wrote: In article , *"Pete KE9OA" wrote: Interesting thing about IBOC.............I e-mailed Senator Durbin about the IBOC interference on the MW band. I did receive a reply yesterday, thanking me for bringing up my concerns. He talked about high prices of broadband internet, and everything EXCEPT IBOC. A true politician. Do you actually think HE read the letter and wrote the reply himself? * Most likely, some aide or intern got the message and sent the wrong stock reply. * Durbin is pretty widely known to be kept isolated from outside influences, and is led around with the ring in his nose by his staff. - It's very possible he's not aware of the interference caused by - IBOC, and has, instead adopted the position of acceptance - handed him by, as you said, an aide, or associate pursuant - to political agendae, and contributorship. DPM - And most likely the "Source" that the Aide used was the IBOC Talking Points provided by the FCC and NAB. :o) ~ RHF * Durbin is one of the slimiest of the Illinois politicians, and like our beloved Governor (nice hair, not much under it-----thank you G.Gordon Liddy) is prone to say whatever he needs to say to get critics off his back. And then forget the conversation before the words have died in the room. |
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On Jan 26, 10:25 am, D Peter Maus wrote: Sun Chaser wrote: In article , "Pete KE9OA" wrote: Interesting thing about IBOC.............I e-mailed Senator Durbin about the IBOC interference on the MW band. I did receive a reply yesterday, thanking me for bringing up my concerns. He talked about high prices of broadband internet, and everything EXCEPT IBOC. A true politician. Do you actually think HE read the letter and wrote the reply himself? Most likely, some aide or intern got the message and sent the wrong stock reply. Durbin is pretty widely known to be kept isolated from outside influences, and is led around with the ring in his nose by his staff. - It's very possible he's not aware of the interference caused by - IBOC, and has, instead adopted the position of acceptance - handed him by, as you said, an aide, or associate pursuant - to political agendae, and contributorship. DPM - And most likely the "Source" that the Aide used was the IBOC Talking Points provided by the FCC and NAB. :o) ~ RHF Actually, Roy, most likely the source was a lobbyist working for iBiquity. Durbin is one of the slimiest of the Illinois politicians, and like our beloved Governor (nice hair, not much under it-----thank you G.Gordon Liddy) is prone to say whatever he needs to say to get critics off his back. And then forget the conversation before the words have died in the room. |
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D Peter Maus wrote: RHF wrote: On Jan 26, 10:25 am, D Peter Maus wrote: Sun Chaser wrote: In article , "Pete KE9OA" wrote: Interesting thing about IBOC.............I e-mailed Senator Durbin about the IBOC interference on the MW band. I did receive a reply yesterday, thanking me for bringing up my concerns. He talked about high prices of broadband internet, and everything EXCEPT IBOC. A true politician. Do you actually think HE read the letter and wrote the reply himself? Most likely, some aide or intern got the message and sent the wrong stock reply. Durbin is pretty widely known to be kept isolated from outside influences, and is led around with the ring in his nose by his staff. - It's very possible he's not aware of the interference caused by - IBOC, and has, instead adopted the position of acceptance - handed him by, as you said, an aide, or associate pursuant - to political agendae, and contributorship. DPM - And most likely the "Source" that the Aide used was the IBOC Talking Points provided by the FCC and NAB. :o) ~ RHF Actually, Roy, most likely the source was a lobbyist working for iBiquity. Is 'Eduardo' moonlighting? |
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dxAce wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote: RHF wrote: On Jan 26, 10:25 am, D Peter Maus wrote: Sun Chaser wrote: In article , "Pete KE9OA" wrote: Interesting thing about IBOC.............I e-mailed Senator Durbin about the IBOC interference on the MW band. I did receive a reply yesterday, thanking me for bringing up my concerns. He talked about high prices of broadband internet, and everything EXCEPT IBOC. A true politician. Do you actually think HE read the letter and wrote the reply himself? Most likely, some aide or intern got the message and sent the wrong stock reply. Durbin is pretty widely known to be kept isolated from outside influences, and is led around with the ring in his nose by his staff. - It's very possible he's not aware of the interference caused by - IBOC, and has, instead adopted the position of acceptance - handed him by, as you said, an aide, or associate pursuant - to political agendae, and contributorship. DPM - And most likely the "Source" that the Aide used was the IBOC Talking Points provided by the FCC and NAB. :o) ~ RHF Actually, Roy, most likely the source was a lobbyist working for iBiquity. Is 'Eduardo' moonlighting? Careful...mentioning his name is like saying 'Betelgieuse'....three times and he appears. But to the point...given what we've seen him post here, and the inconsistencies in some of his claims, I've wondered if that's not precisely what he's doing. |
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On Jan 27, 5:08*am, D Peter Maus wrote:
RHF wrote: On Jan 26, 10:25 am, D Peter Maus wrote: Sun Chaser wrote: In article , *"Pete KE9OA" wrote: Interesting thing about IBOC.............I e-mailed Senator Durbin about the IBOC interference on the MW band. I did receive a reply yesterday, thanking me for bringing up my concerns. He talked about high prices of broadband internet, and everything EXCEPT IBOC. A true politician. Do you actually think HE read the letter and wrote the reply himself? * Most likely, some aide or intern got the message and sent the wrong stock reply. * Durbin is pretty widely known to be kept isolated from outside influences, and is led around with the ring in his nose by his staff. - It's very possible he's not aware of the interference caused by - IBOC, and has, instead adopted the position of acceptance - handed him by, as you said, an aide, or associate pursuant - to political agendae, and contributorship. DPM - And most likely the "Source" that the Aide used was the IBOC Talking Points provided by the FCC and NAB. :o) ~ RHF - Actually, Roy, most likely the source - was a lobbyist working for iBiquity. GFETE ~ RHF http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emoticon http://blackjewel.insanejournal.com/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smiley * Durbin is one of the slimiest of the Illinois politicians, and like our beloved Governor (nice hair, not much under it-----thank you G.Gordon Liddy) is prone to say whatever he needs to say to get critics off his back. And then forget the conversation before the words have died in the room.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
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On Jan 24, 10:49�am, "Frank Dresser"
wrote: "Rfburns" wrote in message ... [good questions snipped] How long will it take fior the noise to stop, etc? jw The IBOC noise won't stop until the broadcasters are convinced there is no worthwhile demand for either "HD/crystal clear" radio or subscription radio. I think pay radio has more potential than HD radio. Pay radio schemes don't have to leave the listeners with normal radios completely in the dark. �NPR is supposed to be considering a plan in which a free channel and a subscription channel would mostly simulcast during pledge drives. �But, when the pledge breaks comes up, the subscribers would hear normal programming and people with normal radios would hear something like "Pay up, you cheapskates, and you won't have to hear these damn beg-athons anymore!" Frank Dresser Controleed access will require the purchase of new HD radios - that is part of the scam. |
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On Jan 24, 10:49 am, "Frank Dresser"
wrote: "Rfburns" wrote in message ... [good questions snipped] How long will it take fior the noise to stop, etc? jw The IBOC noise won't stop until the broadcasters are convinced there is no worthwhile demand for either "HD/crystal clear" radio or subscription radio. I think pay radio has more potential than HD radio. Pay radio schemes don't have to leave the listeners with normal radios completely in the dark. NPR is supposed to be considering a plan in which a free channel and a subscription channel would mostly simulcast during pledge drives. But, when the pledge breaks comes up, the subscribers would hear normal programming and people with normal radios would hear something like "Pay up, you cheapskates, and you won't have to hear these damn beg-athons anymore!" Frank Dresser Unless HD radios are software ungradable, there willl be a never ending cycle of having to buy new HD radios - again, part of the scam: "HD Radio on the Offense" "But after an investigation of HD Radio units, the stations playing HD, and the company that owns the technology; and some interviews with the wonks in DC, it looks like HD Radio is a high-level corporate scam, a huge carny shill." http://www.eastbayexpress.com/2007-0...on-the-offense |
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"dxAce" wrote in message ... D Peter Maus wrote: RHF wrote: On Jan 26, 10:25 am, D Peter Maus wrote: Sun Chaser wrote: In article , "Pete KE9OA" wrote: Interesting thing about IBOC.............I e-mailed Senator Durbin about the IBOC interference on the MW band. I did receive a reply yesterday, thanking me for bringing up my concerns. He talked about high prices of broadband internet, and everything EXCEPT IBOC. A true politician. Do you actually think HE read the letter and wrote the reply himself? Most likely, some aide or intern got the message and sent the wrong stock reply. Durbin is pretty widely known to be kept isolated from outside influences, and is led around with the ring in his nose by his staff. - It's very possible he's not aware of the interference caused by - IBOC, and has, instead adopted the position of acceptance - handed him by, as you said, an aide, or associate pursuant - to political agendae, and contributorship. DPM - And most likely the "Source" that the Aide used was the IBOC Talking Points provided by the FCC and NAB. :o) ~ RHF Actually, Roy, most likely the source was a lobbyist working for iBiquity. Is 'Eduardo' moonlighting? Actually, iBiquity has no lobbyists on the hill... just their on staff that visits the FCC. |
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"D Peter Maus" wrote in message ... But to the point...given what we've seen him post here, and the inconsistencies in some of his claims, I've wondered if that's not precisely what he's doing. Nothing I've posted can top your claim based on having, once upon a time, gotten a FORMAT added to a LOCAL buy that it would be easy to get an agency to change the client DEMOS for a buy... |
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David Eduardo wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... D Peter Maus wrote: RHF wrote: On Jan 26, 10:25 am, D Peter Maus wrote: Sun Chaser wrote: In article , "Pete KE9OA" wrote: Interesting thing about IBOC.............I e-mailed Senator Durbin about the IBOC interference on the MW band. I did receive a reply yesterday, thanking me for bringing up my concerns. He talked about high prices of broadband internet, and everything EXCEPT IBOC. A true politician. Do you actually think HE read the letter and wrote the reply himself? Most likely, some aide or intern got the message and sent the wrong stock reply. Durbin is pretty widely known to be kept isolated from outside influences, and is led around with the ring in his nose by his staff. - It's very possible he's not aware of the interference caused by - IBOC, and has, instead adopted the position of acceptance - handed him by, as you said, an aide, or associate pursuant - to political agendae, and contributorship. DPM - And most likely the "Source" that the Aide used was the IBOC Talking Points provided by the FCC and NAB. :o) ~ RHF Actually, Roy, most likely the source was a lobbyist working for iBiquity. Is 'Eduardo' moonlighting? Actually, iBiquity has no lobbyists on the hill... just their on staff that visits the FCC. Not a good answer, 'Eduardo'.. |
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David Eduardo wrote: "D Peter Maus" wrote in message ... But to the point...given what we've seen him post here, and the inconsistencies in some of his claims, I've wondered if that's not precisely what he's doing. Nothing I've posted can top your claim based on having, once upon a time, gotten a FORMAT added to a LOCAL buy that it would be easy to get an agency to change the client DEMOS for a buy... Hogwash, your claim to have actually *owned* radio stations, your claim to have held a valid *amateur radio license*, and your claim to be *Hispanic* amongst others certainly tops 'em all... |
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David Eduardo wrote:
"D Peter Maus" wrote in message ... But to the point...given what we've seen him post here, and the inconsistencies in some of his claims, I've wondered if that's not precisely what he's doing. Nothing I've posted can top your claim based on having, once upon a time, gotten a FORMAT added to a LOCAL buy that it would be easy to get an agency to change the client DEMOS for a buy... Sweetheart....no one, not even me, said it was easy. I said it was possible. And it is. It happens every day. Why? Because the station develops a relationship with the agency. Orders and purchases are about the product. SALES, on the other hand, is about relationships. No one has ever said that building the relationship is easy. But it IS possible. Because it happens every day. EVERY DAY. And someone with your experience knows that. And for those of you in Rio Linda, the above is an example of one of those inconsistencies to which I referred. p |
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On Jan 27, 1:10*pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"D Peter Maus" wrote in ... * But to the point...given what we've seen him post here, and the inconsistencies in some of his claims, I've wondered if that's not precisely what he's doing. Nothing I've posted can top your claim based on having, once upon a time, gotten a FORMAT added to a LOCAL buy that it would be easy to get an agency to change the client DEMOS for a buy... Nothing you've posted can top a blank screen. |
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"dxAce" wrote in message ... David Eduardo wrote: "D Peter Maus" wrote in message ... But to the point...given what we've seen him post here, and the inconsistencies in some of his claims, I've wondered if that's not precisely what he's doing. Nothing I've posted can top your claim based on having, once upon a time, gotten a FORMAT added to a LOCAL buy that it would be easy to get an agency to change the client DEMOS for a buy... Hogwash, your claim to have actually *owned* radio stations, your claim to have held a valid *amateur radio license*, and your claim to be *Hispanic* amongst others certainly tops 'em all... I owned 12 operating stations, "bought" a ham license (there was no exam for anyone, just a fee) and am, by US definition, Hispanic as that is my culture, the one I live every day. |
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"D Peter Maus" wrote in message ... David Eduardo wrote: "D Peter Maus" wrote in message ... But to the point...given what we've seen him post here, and the inconsistencies in some of his claims, I've wondered if that's not precisely what he's doing. Nothing I've posted can top your claim based on having, once upon a time, gotten a FORMAT added to a LOCAL buy that it would be easy to get an agency to change the client DEMOS for a buy... Sweetheart....no one, not even me, said it was easy. I said it was possible. And it is. It happens every day. I spoke with execs from a major national rep firm, and they say, just as I do, that getting an agency to change a demo is next to impossible. One of them, a few weeks ago in NYC, said they could not even remember the last time they heard of it happening. What stations do is adjust pricing so that whatever amount of listening in the target demo that the station has is competitive with the agency goal for that demo. The spillage is free. Why? Because the station develops a relationship with the agency. Agencies don't set demos. The client does, and the demo is usually based on ROI.and product design, boh of which are inmutable. SALES, on the other hand, is about relationships. Relationships can get you considered if your are 7th in a demo and the buy is only five deep. They can not change the demo spec from the client No one has ever said that building the relationship is easy. But it IS possible. Because it happens every day. EVERY DAY. And someone with your experience knows that. And for those of you in Rio Linda, the above is an example of one of those inconsistencies to which I referred. When my experience, as GSM and NSM as well as GM, our managers' experience and our rep's experience all say that changing a demo spec happens once in a blue moon, I believe them more than your single anecdote. What you describe seldom if ever happens, even with the best relationships as the agency relationship with the client is not going to be sacrificed for a friendship with a radio station when radio is and has been a small part of the average client's budget. |
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David Eduardo wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... David Eduardo wrote: "D Peter Maus" wrote in message ... But to the point...given what we've seen him post here, and the inconsistencies in some of his claims, I've wondered if that's not precisely what he's doing. Nothing I've posted can top your claim based on having, once upon a time, gotten a FORMAT added to a LOCAL buy that it would be easy to get an agency to change the client DEMOS for a buy... Hogwash, your claim to have actually *owned* radio stations, your claim to have held a valid *amateur radio license*, and your claim to be *Hispanic* amongst others certainly tops 'em all... I owned 12 operating stations, "bought" a ham license (there was no exam for anyone, just a fee) and am, by US definition, Hispanic as that is my culture, the one I live every day. BS |
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David Eduardo wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... David Eduardo wrote: "D Peter Maus" wrote in message ... But to the point...given what we've seen him post here, and the inconsistencies in some of his claims, I've wondered if that's not precisely what he's doing. Nothing I've posted can top your claim based on having, once upon a time, gotten a FORMAT added to a LOCAL buy that it would be easy to get an agency to change the client DEMOS for a buy... Hogwash, your claim to have actually *owned* radio stations, your claim to have held a valid *amateur radio license*, and your claim to be *Hispanic* amongst others certainly tops 'em all... I owned 12 operating stations, "bought" a ham license (there was no exam for anyone, just a fee) and am, by US definition, Hispanic as that is my culture, the one I live every day. 'Eduardo', you are so full of s**t, I could just puke! You've never *owned* one single radio station, nor have you ever held an amateur radio license. And, you are certainly not *Hispanic*... |
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