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Telamon wrote:

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Someone made a mistake. All the references to a radio on a chip
on the Samsung site were analog. Looks like there is some
confusion here as they do have chips for satellite and HD but not
AMBCB and FMBCB.


Your mistake is depending on a website for data only of interest to
manufacturers, iBiquity and its shareholders. The chip is,
obviously, digital as HD is digital.

Your mistake is that they announce any semiconductor development on
their web site. They may limit the amount of data for proprietary
reasons but all projects are announced with some detail.



Telemon,
Why would a semiconductor company announce all their development
projects on the internet? This would tell all their competitors what
they are doing. Most companies do not disclose development activities
until there is a competitive reason to do so.

They are a publicly traded company and need to let their stockholders
know what they are working on. Check the news here

http://www.samsung.com/us/business/semiconductor/index.html



Really? Public companies actually tell their stockholder the details of
their development plans?


Yes. This happens every day.

Not in any company I've worked for. If what you propose were true, what
would the value of a confidentiality agreement be?


Where have you worked that sales has not stated that the latest device
will be available on some date? Sales is trying to create demand before
the parts are made so they can sell them the day the parts can ship. How
else do you think things work? You must have a pretty sheltered work
life there buddy.

Why not look at the link. Read any news service about the stock market.
Just about any company any day is telling you what the next big
development is going to be that they are working on. When I worked for a
semiconductor company I was always busting my butt to make some deadline
created in a press news release. It's no different where I work now
since I still work in manufacturing.

Believe me if Samsung is or has been working on a HD radio on a chip you
would see a press release about it on their web site. Everything else is
there like HD TV devices so why not an HD radio chip? Eduardo got you
convinced it is a big secret? Well think again.



OK, provide links to all the products your company has in development. It
should be easy if this is all public information.

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In article ,
craigm wrote:

Telamon wrote:

In article ,
craigm wrote:

Telamon wrote:

In article ,
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Telamon wrote:

In article ,
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...
Someone made a mistake. All the references to a radio on a chip
on the Samsung site were analog. Looks like there is some
confusion here as they do have chips for satellite and HD but not
AMBCB and FMBCB.


Your mistake is depending on a website for data only of interest to
manufacturers, iBiquity and its shareholders. The chip is,
obviously, digital as HD is digital.

Your mistake is that they announce any semiconductor development on
their web site. They may limit the amount of data for proprietary
reasons but all projects are announced with some detail.



Telemon,
Why would a semiconductor company announce all their development
projects on the internet? This would tell all their competitors what
they are doing. Most companies do not disclose development activities
until there is a competitive reason to do so.

They are a publicly traded company and need to let their stockholders
know what they are working on. Check the news here

http://www.samsung.com/us/business/semiconductor/index.html



Really? Public companies actually tell their stockholder the details of
their development plans?


Yes. This happens every day.

Not in any company I've worked for. If what you propose were true, what
would the value of a confidentiality agreement be?


Where have you worked that sales has not stated that the latest device
will be available on some date? Sales is trying to create demand before
the parts are made so they can sell them the day the parts can ship. How
else do you think things work? You must have a pretty sheltered work
life there buddy.

Why not look at the link. Read any news service about the stock market.
Just about any company any day is telling you what the next big
development is going to be that they are working on. When I worked for a
semiconductor company I was always busting my butt to make some deadline
created in a press news release. It's no different where I work now
since I still work in manufacturing.

Believe me if Samsung is or has been working on a HD radio on a chip you
would see a press release about it on their web site. Everything else is
there like HD TV devices so why not an HD radio chip? Eduardo got you
convinced it is a big secret? Well think again.



OK, provide links to all the products your company has in development. It
should be easy if this is all public information.


I'm not pointing out the company I work for on Usenet. Any company out
there makes forward looking statements in press releases followed by all
the disclamers. Go read any business news outlet about any manufacturing
company. Go read the link to the Samsung web site I posted or any other
semiconductor maker.

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Ventura, California
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OK, provide links to all the products your company has in development. It
should be easy if this is all public information.


I'm not pointing out the company I work for on Usenet. Any company out
there makes forward looking statements in press releases followed by all
the disclamers. Go read any business news outlet about any manufacturing
company. Go read the link to the Samsung web site I posted or any other
semiconductor maker.


I'd remind you that the CEO's or COO's of several of the largest radio
companies in the US made "forward looking" statements two weeks ago at the
SCBA conference; such statements come under considerable scrutiny by
regulatory agencies if they are not based on factual data.


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"Telamon" wrote in message
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OK, provide links to all the products your company has in development. It
should be easy if this is all public information.


I'm not pointing out the company I work for on Usenet. Any company out
there makes forward looking statements in press releases followed by all
the disclamers. Go read any business news outlet about any manufacturing
company. Go read the link to the Samsung web site I posted or any other
semiconductor maker.


I'd remind you that the CEO's or COO's of several of the largest radio
companies in the US made "forward looking" statements two weeks ago at the
SCBA conference; such statements come under considerable scrutiny by
regulatory agencies if they are not based on factual data.


Hence all the disclaimers that follow.

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Ventura, California
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In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
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OK, provide links to all the products your company has in development.
It
should be easy if this is all public information.

I'm not pointing out the company I work for on Usenet. Any company out
there makes forward looking statements in press releases followed by
all
the disclamers. Go read any business news outlet about any
manufacturing
company. Go read the link to the Samsung web site I posted or any other
semiconductor maker.


I'd remind you that the CEO's or COO's of several of the largest radio
companies in the US made "forward looking" statements two weeks ago at
the
SCBA conference; such statements come under considerable scrutiny by
regulatory agencies if they are not based on factual data.


Hence all the disclaimers that follow.


There were no disclaimers of the type you refer to.




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"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
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In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
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OK, provide links to all the products your company has in development.
It
should be easy if this is all public information.

I'm not pointing out the company I work for on Usenet. Any company out
there makes forward looking statements in press releases followed by
all
the disclamers. Go read any business news outlet about any
manufacturing
company. Go read the link to the Samsung web site I posted or any other
semiconductor maker.


I'd remind you that the CEO's or COO's of several of the largest radio
companies in the US made "forward looking" statements two weeks ago at
the
SCBA conference; such statements come under considerable scrutiny by
regulatory agencies if they are not based on factual data.


Hence all the disclaimers that follow.


There were no disclaimers of the type you refer to.


If there was nothing to disclaim then it was just vague hot air. I read
the statements you refer to and what was said was not defined in any way
so disclaimers were not necessary.

Press releases that do make real promises about some product always
have disclaimers.

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Ventura, California
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There were no disclaimers of the type you refer to.


If there was nothing to disclaim then it was just vague hot air. I read
the statements you refer to and what was said was not defined in any way
so disclaimers were not necessary.

Press releases that do make real promises about some product always
have disclaimers.


The seminar, with the heads of 5 of the top 10 broadcasting companies, was
webcast. The information on HD was more extensive than the report; all such
executives are cognizant of forward looking statements.


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