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On Feb 28, 12:04 pm, David wrote:
An airplane was about to crash; there were 5 passengers on board but
only 4 parachutes.

The first passenger, said, "I'm Kobe Bryant, The best NBA basketball
player, the Lakers need me, I can't afford to die." So, he took the
first pack and left the plane.

The second passenger, Hillary Clinton, said, "I am the wife of the
former President of the United States, and I am also a U.S. Senator."
She got up took the second parachute and jumped out of the plane.

The third passenger, George W. Bush, said, "I'm President of the
United States, and I have a great responsibility being the leader of
the Free World.

In addition, I'm the cleverest President in American history, so
America's people won't let me die". He put on the pack next to him and
jumped out of the plane.

The fourth passenger, The Pope, says to the fifth passenger, a 10 year-
old school boy, "I am old and frail and I don't have many years left,
as a Christian, I will sacrifice my life and let you have the last
parachute.

The boy said, "It's Ok, there's a parachute left for you. America's
cleverest President jumped out with my School Bag ."


LOL, and how easily imagined true
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On Feb 28, 12:04 pm, David wrote:
An airplane was about to crash; there were 5 passengers on board but
only 4 parachutes.

The first passenger, said, "I'm Kobe Bryant, The best NBA basketball
player, the Lakers need me, I can't afford to die." So, he took the
first pack and left the plane.

The second passenger, Hillary Clinton, said, "I am the wife of the
former President of the United States, and I am also a U.S. Senator."
She got up took the second parachute and jumped out of the plane.

The third passenger, George W. Bush, said, "I'm President of the
United States, and I have a great responsibility being the leader of
the Free World.

In addition, I'm the cleverest President in American history, so
America's people won't let me die". He put on the pack next to him and
jumped out of the plane.

The fourth passenger, The Pope, says to the fifth passenger, a 10 year-
old school boy, "I am old and frail and I don't have many years left,
as a Christian, I will sacrifice my life and let you have the last
parachute.

The boy said, "It's Ok, there's a parachute left for you. America's
cleverest President jumped out with my School Bag ."


LOL, and how easily imagined true


You probably have more trouble putting on your Depends than the President would
have putting on a parachute. He was after all at one time a qualified pilot. And
you, just another retard on the short bus.


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dxAce wrote:


You probably have more trouble putting on your Depends than the President would
have putting on a parachute. He was after all at one time a qualified pilot. And
you, just another retard on the short bus.


We spent hundreds of thousands of dollars training that ****head and he
goes AWOL. Real admirable, ****wad.
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dave wrote:
We spent hundreds of thousands of dollars training that ****head and he
goes AWOL. Real admirable, ****wad.


That's a pretty nasty accusation that's been disproven years ago. Prove it
or admit you're a liar.

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clifto wrote:

dave wrote:
We spent hundreds of thousands of dollars training that ****head and he
goes AWOL. Real admirable, ****wad.


That's a pretty nasty accusation that's been disproven years ago.


Indeed.

Prove it
or admit you're a liar.


Yes, ol' Rickets is a liar.




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dxAce wrote:
clifto wrote:
dave wrote:
We spent hundreds of thousands of dollars training that ****head and he
goes AWOL. Real admirable, ****wad.


That's a pretty nasty accusation that's been disproven years ago.


Indeed.

Prove it
or admit you're a liar.


Yes, ol' Rickets is a liar.


Pretty shallow lie, too. Even the hard-core lefties admit that that lie was
so transparent that even Dan Rather couldn't pull it off.

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From Aerospaceweb.org on the subject of F-102, and G. W. Bush.


http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question...ry/q0185.shtml
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dxAce wrote:

wrote:


The boy said, "It's Ok, there's a parachute left for you. America's
cleverest President jumped out with my School Bag ."

LOL, and how easily imagined true


You probably have more trouble putting on your Depends than the President would
have putting on a parachute. He was after all at one time a qualified pilot. And
you, just another retard on the short bus.


Not only a pilot, but an F102 pilot...one of the hardest aircraft to
fly. And his own wing commander proudly stated he was one of the MOST
accomplished F102 pilots in the Guard.

That doesn't come easy.


Tim Worstall writes:

Even in peacetime conditions, F-102 pilots risked their lives on
every flight. Only highly-qualified pilot candidates were accepted for
Delta Dagger training because it was such a challenging aircraft to fly
and left little room for mistakes. According to the Air Force Safety
Center, the lifetime Class A accident rate for the F-102 was 13.69
mishaps per 100,000 flight hours, much higher than the average for
today's combat aircraft. For example, the F-16 has an accident rate of
4.14, the F-15 is at 2.47, the F-117 at 4.07, the S-3 at 2.6, and the
F-18 at 4.9. Even the Marine Corps' AV-8B, regarded as the most
dangerous aircraft in US service today, has a lifetime accident rate of
only 11.44 mishaps per 100,000 flight hours. The F-102 claimed the lives
of many pilots, including a number stationed at Ellington during Bush's
tenure. Of the 875 F-102A production models that entered service, 259
were lost in accidents that killed 70 Air Force and ANG pilots.


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D Peter Maus wrote:

Not only a pilot, but an F102 pilot...one of the hardest aircraft to
fly. And his own wing commander proudly stated he was one of the MOST
accomplished F102 pilots in the Guard.


Let me ask a legitimate question...

Do you think the wing commander's statement may have been influenced by
the commander knowing that W's daddy was a big shot in Washington?

Or maybe he should have committed a career ending move by telling the
truth. What would you do?

P.S.

Speaking of career ending moves, how about the Generals in Iraq 2 or 3
years ago who said "We need more troops" (a 'surge', if you will) and
got forced into early retirement for their trouble.

A few years later, W 'came up' with the brilliant idea of a 'surge'. I
wonder if W ever apologized (or re-instated) those generals who
originally brought it up...

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Billy Burpelson wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote:

Not only a pilot, but an F102 pilot...one of the hardest aircraft to
fly. And his own wing commander proudly stated he was one of the MOST
accomplished F102 pilots in the Guard.


Let me ask a legitimate question...

Do you think the wing commander's statement may have been influenced by
the commander knowing that W's daddy was a big shot in Washington?



No, I don't think so. GHW Bush was a military hero, himself. He knew
and understood the value of the truth in training pilots to serve in
combat.

More importantly, a wing commander doesn't get to be a wing commander
without the hide to tell the truth and fade the heat.



Or maybe he should have committed a career ending move by telling the
truth. What would you do?


I'm no stranger to politically sensitive situations in my career. And
while not as visible as the President and his son, I have been put in a
situation where telling the truth to a corporate vice president about
his own kid could have been instantly fatal to my career, and being out
of the public eye, I could have been launched from the building and no
one would have been the wiser.

I told the truth.

Things got a little warm in my chair for a while. But the VP knew
that truth is a much more actionable, and substantive commodity than a
lie. And though he didn't like it....he accepted it, and acted accordingly.

I was with the company for another 11 years.

A wing commander worth his salt would tell the truth, as well.

P.S.

Speaking of career ending moves, how about the Generals in Iraq 2 or 3
years ago who said "We need more troops" (a 'surge', if you will) and
got forced into early retirement for their trouble.



As I recall, there was no forced retirement.

And as I recall, the politics of the comments didn't involve only the
White House.

The problems with the comments is the way they were made, and where
they were made. Not what was actually said.



A few years later, W 'came up' with the brilliant idea of a 'surge'. I
wonder if W ever apologized (or re-instated) those generals who
originally brought it up...


The surge had been under discussion for some time well before it was
discussed publicly. And it didn't originate with Mr Bush. It originated
with his Generals. And would not have been publicly discussed had it not
been for political opposition leaking the strategy to the press.









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