Ground Wire Length?
 

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Ground Wire Length?
 

On Mar 16, 4:39*pm, "Burr" wrote:
"dave" wrote in message

...

garthpdm wrote:
Hi,

I am wondering what limitations are on the length of the ground wire
lead from the transformer/balun to the ground rod? *Thanks,

Garth

There is no requirement to to ground the BalUn (UnUn) directly. *The
antenna lead (coaxial cable outer conductor) must be grounded at the point
where it enters the building. *That is where the main ground should be..
-
- You can also carry away EMF by wrapping gnd around
- your wire NOT on the bare wire, just close as a bleed.
-
- Burr

OK So you have a Noisy AC Mains Ground; and that's all
the Ground you got.

Situation : You are stuck with only using the AC Mains Ground
in your Seventh Story Apartment / Condo : It is 84+ Feet down
to the Earth {Ground} and You Cna't Get There. - Bummer ! ;-{

1 - Use the Cold Water Pipe or AC Mains Ground as your
Radio/Shack's Grounding-Point.
-ps- Try them Both and also try the Outside Looking "Metal"
Window Frames of your Apartment / Condo many times they
are a better Grounding Point then either the Cold Water Pipe
or AC Mains Ground {There is a Reason and a Rational for
that : Anyone know both ?}

=BUT= I Got Noise coming into my Radio / Receiver from
my Grounding Point.- Bummer Again ! ;-{

First try One or more Snap-On Ferrite Beads in your
Ground Wire run from the Grounding-Point to your Radios
and Equipment.
http://linearparts.com/images/FCL-2-420x315.jpg
http://www.intermark-usa.com/product...CK_shohin2.jpg

2 - Alternattive to Snap-On Ferrite Beads is a Donut Magnet.
http://www.skycraftsurplus.com/ProductImages/sk1979.jpg
Route the Ground Wire through the Donut Hole several
times and space the Winding out around the outer-edge
of the Donut Magnet; usually 5~6 Wraps will do.
http://www.amalgamate2000.com/radio-...dio/image8.gif
http://www.regionalmfg.com/component...inductor-5.jpg

3 - OK -but- I ain't got no Snap-On Ferrite Beads; then a
12" piece of ReBar {Solid Iron Object} with the Ground Wire
wrapped around the ReBar every 1/2"~1" {10~20 Turns}
may help to kill the Noise heard on your Radios coming f
rom the GroundingPoint. - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rebar
http://www.sanantoniohams.org/images...p/1st_Rapp.jpg

yes i b well grounded ~ RHF
-ps- my ground wire is connected to the top
section of the water well casing pipe ~34 feet

Ground Wire Length?
 

On Mar 16, 2:16*am, garthpdm wrote:
- Hi,
-
- I am wondering what limitations are on the length
- of the ground wire lead from the transformer/balun
- to the ground rod?
-*Thanks,
- Garth
-

Garth,

Start Here and Read - Grounding in RF Environments
-by- William D. Chesney [N8SA]
http://www.hamuniverse.com/grounding.html
* Surge (or Safety) Grounding.{Lightning}
* RF Grounding {Noise}
* Summary
* Tip use Coax Cable as a Ground Wire
CopyRight 2000 - 2007 N4UJW HamUniverse.Com

Next GoTo and Read - Good Ground = Great Signals
-hosted-by- Hard-Core DX .Com
http://www.hard-core-dx.com/nordicdx...und/index.html
* Ground Zero for your Receiver
* Grounding is Key to Good Reception
* Effective Ground System Step-by-Step
* Great Ground with Kitty Litter
* Better Ground with Conductive Cement

Read - There are Grounds and then there are Grounds. . .
Being Well Grounded !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...9d6205cc5958d9
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...5ac24f5ce252ac

Read - Grounds & Grounding
Five Topics for your Consideration
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...59ed4e60ef8b64
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...810dbd34351ef9

Read - Ground Wire Question - What's On Your List When Designing and
Installing Your Radio Shack's Ground System ? [Was : ground wire
question]
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...a109bd6cd0ead1
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...6bb8bfa64e9b91

hope this helps - iane ~ RHF

Ground Wire Length?
 

"RHF"


yes i b well grounded ~ RHF
-ps- my ground wire is connected to the top
section of the water well casing pipe ~34 feet

Ground Wire Length?
 

In article ,
garthpdm wrote:
Hi,

I am wondering what limitations are on the length of the ground wire
lead from the transformer/balun to the ground rod? Thanks,

It may do undesirable things, like add directivity.

I was messing around and found that putting my 9:1 transformer at various
lengths along the antenna away from the ground rod, I was able to cancel
out the neighbor's light dimmers, but only on one band at a time. That
meant that it was also nulling any radio stations in that direction,
too.

Mark Zenier
Googleproofaddress(account:mzenier provider:eskimo domain:com)

Ground Wire Length?
 

In article
,
RHF wrote:

On Mar 16, 4:39*pm, "Burr" wrote:
"dave" wrote in message

...

garthpdm wrote:
Hi,

I am wondering what limitations are on the length of the ground wire
lead from the transformer/balun to the ground rod? *Thanks,

Garth

There is no requirement to to ground the BalUn (UnUn) directly. *The
antenna lead (coaxial cable outer conductor) must be grounded at the point
where it enters the building. *That is where the main ground should be.
-
- You can also carry away EMF by wrapping gnd around
- your wire NOT on the bare wire, just close as a bleed.
-
- Burr

OK So you have a Noisy AC Mains Ground; and that's all
the Ground you got.

SNIP

You will never learn.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Ground Wire Length?
 

In article ,
"Burr" wrote:

"RHF"


yes i b well grounded ~ RHF
-ps- my ground wire is connected to the top
section of the water well casing pipe ~34 feet
.

Great ground Roy BUT, you have "PLASTIC" pipe!!!


Smile.

I wonder how many people have tried that!


Nice advice Roy I didn't think about someone in an apartment.


RHF's problem is he try's to think but nothing happens.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Ground Wire Length?
 

In article
,
RHF wrote:

On Mar 16, 2:16*am, garthpdm wrote:
- Hi,
-
- I am wondering what limitations are on the length
- of the ground wire lead from the transformer/balun
- to the ground rod?
-*Thanks,
- Garth
-

Garth,

Start Here and Read - Grounding in RF Environments

SNIP

Yes retard we all know how to do a google search.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Ground Wire Length?
 

Telamon wrote:

In article ,

RHF's problem is he try's to think but nothing happens.

The use of English on this newsgroup makes me want to crie.


mike, the intransitive verbster

Ground Wire Length?
 

On Mar 17, 6:24*pm, Telamon
wrote:
In article
,

*RHF wrote:
On Mar 16, 2:16*am, garthpdm wrote:
- Hi,
-
- I am wondering what limitations are on the length
- of the ground wire lead from the transformer/balun
- to the ground rod?
-*Thanks,
- Garth
-

Garth,

- - Start Here and Read - Grounding in RF Environments
-
- SNIP
-
- Yes retard we all know how to do a google search.
-
- --
- Telamon
- Ventura, California

Telamon,

Here is a Google Search for : "Ground Wire Length"
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Ground+Wire+Length

You will NOT find any Link/URL to :
http://www.hamuniverse.com/grounding.html

For : Grounding in RF Environments
-by- William D. Chesney [N8SA]
http://www.hamuniverse.com/grounding.html
* Surge (or Safety) Grounding.{Lightning}
* RF Grounding {Noise}
* Summary
* Tip use Coax Cable as a Ground Wire
CopyRight 2000 - 2007 N4UJW HamUniverse.Com

In the Top 100 referred Links / URLs
[ Checked and Verified ] 3/17/2008 @ 03:15 UTC

Telamon - This is another case of your so called 'expertise'
[TECH-NO-SUPER-EGO] causing you to "OMIF"
{Open-Mouth-Insert-Foot}.

now kindly go bact to 'alt.idiot' et al
and practice your "shtik" ~ RHF