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IBOCcrock April 12th 08 04:18 AM

Eduardo is just angry about the latest Arbitron study of the HD Radiofarce
 
"Arbitron/Edison study chills the already thin air of HD Radio"

"All you need to know about this research is this: It says relatively
few know about HD. It says that number hasn't gone up. And it implies
that folks are aware of what they care about, not vice versa. It also
strongly suggests this isn't going to change any time soon - as in,
forever."

http://www.hear2.com/2008/04/arbitronedison.html

David Eduardo[_4_] April 12th 08 06:59 AM

Eduardo is just angry about the latest Arbitron study of the HD Radio farce
 

"IBOCcrock" wrote in message
...
"Arbitron/Edison study chills the already thin air of HD Radio"

"All you need to know about this research is this: It says relatively
few know about HD. It says that number hasn't gone up. And it implies
that folks are aware of what they care about, not vice versa. It also
strongly suggests this isn't going to change any time soon - as in,
forever."


All involved with HD know it is a long term proposition, not a quick fix.
Since the costs are very low for the top market stations to "do" HD, there
is plenty of time to let more and more receivers get into the market over
the next 5 to 7 years.



IBOCcrock April 12th 08 12:53 PM

Eduardo is just angry about the latest Arbitron study of the HDRadio farce
 
On Apr 12, 1:59�am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"IBOCcrock" wrote in message

...

"Arbitron/Edison study chills the already thin air of HD Radio"


"All you need to know about this research is this: It says relatively
few know about HD. It says that number hasn't gone up. And it implies
that folks are aware of what they care about, not vice versa. It also
strongly suggests this isn't going to change any time soon - as in,
forever."


All involved with HD know it is a long term proposition, not a quick fix.
Since the costs are very low for the top market stations to "do" HD, there
is plenty of time to let more and more receivers get into the market over
the next 5 to 7 years.


iBiquity is running out of funds, and HD Radio has been around for
three years already, with zero consumer interest. As Arbitron stated,
that is not going to change. If HD Radio was going to take-off, it
would have done so, already, and you know it!

Rfburns April 12th 08 02:19 PM

Eduardo is just angry about the latest Arbitron study of the HDRadio farce
 
On Apr 12, 1:59 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:

All involved with HD know it is a long term proposition, not a quick fix.
Since the costs are very low for the top market stations to "do" HD, there
is plenty of time to let more and more receivers get into the market over
the next 5 to 7 years.


Eduardo - You really are detached from reality. You don't get it.
Nobody in the U.S. wants iBiquitys HD system - not yesterday, not
today, not next year. If not for their business in South America they
would be out of business today.

It's not a long term proposition anymore. It's becoming shorter and
shorter every day. Take a look at iBiquitys website. They're
absolutely frantic about getting stations to sign on. Do-it-now is
how they want it. That doesn't sound long-term to me or anyone else.
Investors are seeing the light and Struble and his bandits know it.
The clock is ticking down.

Also, Eddy boy, I knew Edwin Armstrong and Armstrong you're not. To
place him in the same sentence with you, iBiquity or anything else
going on today in radio is a travesty. You should be ashamed of
yourself.

By the way, did you start your used car business yet?

jw

David Eduardo[_4_] April 12th 08 03:17 PM

Eduardo is just angry about the latest Arbitron study of the HD Radio farce
 

"IBOCcrock" wrote in message
...
On Apr 12, 1:59?am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"IBOCcrock" wrote in message

...

"Arbitron/Edison study chills the already thin air of HD Radio"


"All you need to know about this research is this: It says relatively
few know about HD. It says that number hasn't gone up. And it implies
that folks are aware of what they care about, not vice versa. It also
strongly suggests this isn't going to change any time soon - as in,
forever."


All involved with HD know it is a long term proposition, not a quick fix.
Since the costs are very low for the top market stations to "do" HD, there
is plenty of time to let more and more receivers get into the market over
the next 5 to 7 years.


iBiquity is running out of funds, and HD Radio has been around for
three years already, with zero consumer interest. As Arbitron stated,
that is not going to change. If HD Radio was going to take-off, it
would have done so, already, and you know it!

iBiquity is fully funded, and in for the long term. Consumer interest will
increase as prices decline.

It took CD players 8 years to get to where a portable was under a hundred
bucks.



David Eduardo[_4_] April 12th 08 03:19 PM

Eduardo is just angry about the latest Arbitron study of the HD Radio farce
 

"Rfburns" wrote in message
...

Also, Eddy boy, I knew Edwin Armstrong and Armstrong you're not. To
place him in the same sentence with you, iBiquity or anything else
going on today in radio is a travesty. You should be ashamed of
yourself.


You would have to be well into your 70's to have known him as an adult...
maybe that explains your luddite values.



D Peter Maus April 12th 08 05:11 PM

Eduardo is just angry about the latest Arbitron study of theHD Radio farce
 
David Eduardo wrote:
"Rfburns" wrote in message
...
Also, Eddy boy, I knew Edwin Armstrong and Armstrong you're not. To
place him in the same sentence with you, iBiquity or anything else
going on today in radio is a travesty. You should be ashamed of
yourself.


You would have to be well into your 70's to have known him as an adult...
maybe that explains your luddite values.



Not everyone who fails to embrace HD is bairn of Ludd. After all, the
same persons you brand as Luddites have, historically: been on the
internet, users of Satellite Radio--and in many cases, satellite
TV--listeners to podcasts, and/or internet Radio. That's hardly Luddism,
Brother.

It's just a more discriminating approach to the merits of a specific
technology.

The objections to HD radio are not a blanket objection to new
technology. They are objections three to this technology: The absurd
price and ongoing fee structure, the failure to live up to its hype, and
the insane amounts of interference generated.

That's not Luddism. What's more, is that you know that.

Present an alternative that generates no interference and the
objections to HD radio will go away.

You know that, too.


But your inability to speak rationally in non-corporate speak about
this topic, except when you drag out the 'L'-word is making you sound
desperate, David. More to the point, your inability to preach in
something other than iBiquity-speak, makes you sound evermore the shill.

If you really want them to embrace your point...talk to them, not at
them. Something you tell your talent every day.

You're a master debater. But you're not very persuasive.

Persuasion is what your trying to achieve, isn't it?




Rfburns April 12th 08 05:19 PM

Eduardo is just angry about the latest Arbitron study of the HDRadio farce
 
On Apr 12, 10:19 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:

You would have to be well into your 70's to have known him as an adult...
maybe that explains your luddite values.


Eddy - FYI luddite isn't a word. Where did you come up with that one?
You're amazing!

Also, If ibiquity were "fully funded" as you wrongly state they
wouldn't be looking for new revenue streams all the time. Point is,
they're light years away from self-supporting. It's a race to see how
long it takes for investors to finally realize Stubble, or... I mean
Struble, is an idiot. By the way, he occupies 90% of his time looking
for funds.

jw

m II April 12th 08 05:24 PM

Eduardo is just angry about the latest Arbitron study of theHD Radio farce
 
Rfburns wrote:

Eddy - FYI luddite isn't a word. Where did you come up with that one?
You're amazing!





You aren't too bad yourself...

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/%20luddite







mike

D Peter Maus April 12th 08 05:30 PM

Eduardo is just angry about the latest Arbitron study of theHD Radio farce
 
Rfburns wrote:
On Apr 12, 10:19 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:

You would have to be well into your 70's to have known him as an adult...
maybe that explains your luddite values.


Eddy - FYI luddite isn't a word. Where did you come up with that one?
You're amazing!


Hit Wikipedia and enter "luddite". That will explain his use of the
word.

Basically, it's a broad term referring to those who object to new
techology to hold back progress.

It's not a very precise term. Nor is it correctly used in this
application.



Also, If ibiquity were "fully funded" as you wrongly state they
wouldn't be looking for new revenue streams all the time. Point is,
they're light years away from self-supporting. It's a race to see how
long it takes for investors to finally realize Stubble, or... I mean
Struble, is an idiot. By the way, he occupies 90% of his time looking
for funds.

jw


Rfburns April 12th 08 05:52 PM

Eduardo is just angry about the latest Arbitron study of the HDRadio farce
 
On Apr 12, 10:17 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:

It took CD players 8 years to get to where a portable was under a hundred
bucks.


Eddie,

Nice try. The sale CD players showed continuous growth from their
inception. HD radio shows no growth. You need help in understanding
free markets.

Stubble...er... I mean Struble spends 90% of his time looking for
funds according to iBiquity insiders. Ibiquity is light years away
from self-supporting. It can't go on forever. People wanted CDs.
Nobody wants HD radio.

By the way what does "luddite" mean? You make up words like you take
your fantasies and peddle them as fact.

IBOCcrock April 12th 08 06:56 PM

Eduardo is just angry about the latest Arbitron study of the HDRadio farce
 
On Apr 12, 10:17�am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"IBOCcrock" wrote in message

...
On Apr 12, 1:59?am, "David Eduardo" wrote:





"IBOCcrock" wrote in message


...


"Arbitron/Edison study chills the already thin air of HD Radio"


"All you need to know about this research is this: It says relatively
few know about HD. It says that number hasn't gone up. And it implies
that folks are aware of what they care about, not vice versa. It also
strongly suggests this isn't going to change any time soon - as in,
forever."


All involved with HD know it is a long term proposition, not a quick fix..
Since the costs are very low for the top market stations to "do" HD, there
is plenty of time to let more and more receivers get into the market over
the next 5 to 7 years.


iBiquity is running out of funds, and HD Radio has been around for
three years already, with zero consumer interest. As Arbitron stated,
that is not going to change. If HD Radio was going to take-off, it
would have done so, already, and you know it!

iBiquity is fully funded, and in for the long term. Consumer interest will
increase as prices decline.

It took CD players 8 years to get to where a portable was under a hundred
bucks.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


"Are you waiting in line for your HD radio?"

"If you lower the price enough, folks will buy the radio."

That's the belief about HD radio that is being stoked in our industry.

And, of course, it's wrong.

At any given price consumers will purchase an item if the desire is
there and if the value of that item equals or exceeds the price being
charged for it. This is basic economics.

For example, if you wanted to be first to own a Sony PlayStation 3
game system, you waited on line for three days for the chance to spend
$600 on one of these babies when the doors opened at Best Buy last
Friday.

And you did it gladly. No discounts required.

Compare that with the industry's attitude about selling new radio
hardwa "Once the price drops below $100, they'll fly off the
shelves."

The more you have to drop your price, the lower the chance people
value what you're selling. And the less likely you are to sell your
wares at any price the maker of those wares finds appealing.

No matter if you're selling HD radios or satellite radios or whatever.

You could, of course, give the radios away (as we have argued), but
then don't pretend that your business plan requires people to buy
them.

Otherwise you will be judged a failure if they don't.

Check out this notice from Sirius about their hot new portable
Stiletto 100:

Due to high demand, we're now taking pre-orders on Stiletto 100. Place
your order today as new shipments are arriving weekly. Orders placed
today are now expected to ship the week of November 27, 2006.
And the price?

$349.99.

http://www.hear2.com/2006/11/are_you_waiting.html

Eduardo - are you really this stupid? Also, if iBiquity was fully-
funded for the long-hall, then they wouldn't be trying to scam J P
Morgan, and the likes, out of $15 million, and having to take out
loans:

"IBiquity Digital HQ expansion to include 82 new jobs"

"A $300,000 loan to iBiquity Digital Corp. from a state economic
development fund helped pay for expansion of the company's Columbia
headquarters."

http://www.bizjournals.com/baltimore...10/daily3.html

Telamon April 12th 08 10:05 PM

Eduardo is just angry about the latest Arbitron study of the HD Radio farce
 
In article
,
IBOCcrock wrote:

On Apr 12, 10:17?am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"IBOCcrock" wrote in message

...
On Apr 12, 1:59?am, "David Eduardo" wrote:





"IBOCcrock" wrote in message


...


"Arbitron/Edison study chills the already thin air of HD Radio"


"All you need to know about this research is this: It says relatively
few know about HD. It says that number hasn't gone up. And it implies
that folks are aware of what they care about, not vice versa. It also
strongly suggests this isn't going to change any time soon - as in,
forever."


All involved with HD know it is a long term proposition, not a quick fix.
Since the costs are very low for the top market stations to "do" HD, there
is plenty of time to let more and more receivers get into the market over
the next 5 to 7 years.


iBiquity is running out of funds, and HD Radio has been around for
three years already, with zero consumer interest. As Arbitron stated,
that is not going to change. If HD Radio was going to take-off, it
would have done so, already, and you know it!

iBiquity is fully funded, and in for the long term. Consumer interest will
increase as prices decline.

It took CD players 8 years to get to where a portable was under a hundred
bucks.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


"Are you waiting in line for your HD radio?"

"If you lower the price enough, folks will buy the radio."

That's the belief about HD radio that is being stoked in our industry.


SNIP

I can tell you that I'm not going to buy some 1st generation piece of
crap radio.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

[email protected] April 12th 08 10:20 PM

Eduardo is just angry about the latest Arbitron study of theHD...
 
What I ought to do about right now is step on over across Highway 80
from doggy's couch to Metrocenter Mall www.metromalljackson.com
and see can I sweet talk some of them cutie pie gals over there into
coming on over here and spend the night with me tonight.I am only two
hundred and seventy five foot steps from the mall.I am too drunk to
drive right now.I dont drive drunk.
cuhulin


David Eduardo[_4_] April 13th 08 03:15 AM

Eduardo is just angry about the latest Arbitron study of the HD Radio farce
 

"m II" wrote in message news:pwcMj.4780$682.2007@edtnps90...
D Peter Maus wrote:

It's not a very precise term. Nor is it correctly used in this
application.



No it's not. Ludd wasn't anti progress, he was against machinery
destroying the livelihoods of countless thousands. The Guilds and
Journeymen/Apprentices had been around for quite while.


The current definition is "a person opposed to machinery or new technology."

Your definition is around a century old and obsolete.



dxAce April 13th 08 11:42 AM

Eduardo is just angry about the latest Arbitron study of the HDRadio farce
 


David Eduardo wrote:

"m II" wrote in message news:pwcMj.4780$682.2007@edtnps90...
D Peter Maus wrote:

It's not a very precise term. Nor is it correctly used in this
application.



No it's not. Ludd wasn't anti progress, he was against machinery
destroying the livelihoods of countless thousands. The Guilds and
Journeymen/Apprentices had been around for quite while.


The current definition is "a person opposed to machinery or new technology."

Your definition is around a century old and obsolete.


The only one 'obsolete' around here is YOU, 'Edurado'. You're not a radio
hobbyist. Now hit the road and stuff a sock in it, boy. Heavy emphasis on the
'boy'.



D Peter Maus April 13th 08 12:57 PM

Eduardo is just angry about the latest Arbitron study of theHD Radio farce
 
David Eduardo wrote:
"m II" wrote in message news:pwcMj.4780$682.2007@edtnps90...
D Peter Maus wrote:

It's not a very precise term. Nor is it correctly used in this
application.


No it's not. Ludd wasn't anti progress, he was against machinery
destroying the livelihoods of countless thousands. The Guilds and
Journeymen/Apprentices had been around for quite while.


The current definition is "a person opposed to machinery or new technology."

Your definition is around a century old and obsolete.



Ah, yes....the song of the truly desperate.



Telamon April 13th 08 05:29 PM

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In article ,
Billy Burpelson wrote:

SNIP

Huh?


SNIP

I noticed this happens to you a lot. Most of your posts revolve around
this word. Why is that?

Another thing I noticed is this "????" or "???". Most of your posts have
sentences followed by 3 or 4 question marks so are you extra confused?

Looks like it to me.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Billy Burpelson[_2_] April 13th 08 06:16 PM

Eduardo is just angry about the latest Arbitron study of theHD Radio farce
 
Telamon wrote:

Another thing I noticed is this "????" or "???". Most of your posts have
sentences followed by 3 or 4 question marks so are you extra confused?


An interesting grammatical question, especially coming from one who
hasn't yet grasped the difference between "to" and "too".


Telamon April 13th 08 06:30 PM

Eduardo is just angry about the latest Arbitron study of the HD Radio farce
 
In article ,
Billy Burpelson wrote:

Telamon wrote:

Another thing I noticed is this "????" or "???". Most of your posts have
sentences followed by 3 or 4 question marks so are you extra confused?


An interesting grammatical question, especially coming from one who
hasn't yet grasped the difference between "to" and "too".


You evaded the question Billy. Speaking of grasping how about an answer.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

IBOCcrock April 13th 08 07:55 PM

Eduardo is just angry about the latest Arbitron study of the HDRadio farce
 
On Apr 13, 2:26�pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Telamon" wrote in message

....





In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:


"Billy Burpelson" wrote in message
t...
Telamon wrote:


Another thing I noticed is this "????" or "???". Most of your posts
have
sentences followed by 3 or 4 question marks so are you extra confused?


An interesting grammatical question, especially coming from one who
hasn't
yet grasped the difference between "to" and "too".


... or "hansom" and "handsome."


(She said Telamon is the most hansom SWL on the west coast of America.)


That was for cuhulin, you know hansom Harry.


But women are not something you need to worry about Eduardo.


Not with four daughters, I don't.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Are they liers, too?

[email protected] April 13th 08 08:01 PM

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Burl Ives was a Licensed Amateur Ham Radio Operator. www.imdb.com
Burl Ives
cuhulin


[email protected] April 13th 08 08:06 PM

Eduardo is just angry about the latest Arbitron study of theHD...
 
It's Hansom Larry,,, not Hansom Harry.And she is mistaken, I am the most
hansom dude in America, y'all wimmins out there.
cuhulin


dxAce April 13th 08 08:16 PM

Eduardo is just angry about the latest Arbitron study of theHD...
 


wrote:

Burl Ives was a Licensed Amateur Ham Radio Operator.


'Eduardo' sure wasn't!



Telamon April 13th 08 09:14 PM

Eduardo is just angry about the latest Arbitron study of the HD Radio farce
 
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Billy Burpelson" wrote in message
. ..
Telamon wrote:

Another thing I noticed is this "????" or "???". Most of your posts
have
sentences followed by 3 or 4 question marks so are you extra confused?

An interesting grammatical question, especially coming from one who
hasn't
yet grasped the difference between "to" and "too".


... or "hansom" and "handsome."

(She said Telamon is the most hansom SWL on the west coast of America.)


That was for cuhulin, you know hansom Harry.

But women are not something you need to worry about Eduardo.


Not with four daughters, I don't.


Well, in that case you do need to worry.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon April 13th 08 09:16 PM

Eduardo is just angry about the latest Arbitron study of the HD Radio farce
 
In article
,
IBOCcrock wrote:

On Apr 13, 2:26?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Telamon" wrote in message

..
.





In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:


"Billy Burpelson" wrote in message
t...
Telamon wrote:


Another thing I noticed is this "????" or "???". Most of your posts
have
sentences followed by 3 or 4 question marks so are you extra
confused?


An interesting grammatical question, especially coming from one who
hasn't
yet grasped the difference between "to" and "too".


... or "hansom" and "handsome."


(She said Telamon is the most hansom SWL on the west coast of America.)


That was for cuhulin, you know hansom Harry.


But women are not something you need to worry about Eduardo.


Not with four daughters, I don't.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Are they liers, too?


One of them is supposed to be a lawyer so she would be the lier.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon April 13th 08 09:16 PM

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In article ,
wrote:

It's Hansom Larry,,, not Hansom Harry.And she is mistaken, I am the most
hansom dude in America, y'all wimmins out there.
cuhulin


Sorry about that.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon April 13th 08 09:19 PM

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In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

"Billy Burpelson" wrote in message
. ..
Telamon wrote:

Another thing I noticed is this "????" or "???". Most of your posts
have
sentences followed by 3 or 4 question marks so are you extra confused?

An interesting grammatical question, especially coming from one who
hasn't
yet grasped the difference between "to" and "too".


... or "hansom" and "handsome."

(She said Telamon is the most hansom SWL on the west coast of America.)


You moron, he was spelling 'hansom' like Cuhulin spells it.

Pay attention, oh faux one!


Citing the errors of others should either involve using quotes or the
parenthetical (sic) after the recognized error. You need a fresh copy of
Strunk & White.


I'm still waiting for a link for a 2nd generation HD radio from you in
quotes or did you forget?

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

David Eduardo[_4_] April 13th 08 09:32 PM

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"Telamon" wrote in message
...

I'm still waiting for a link for a 2nd generation HD radio from you in
quotes or did you forget?


The receivers coming later this year are third generation.



Drifter April 13th 08 09:45 PM

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David Eduardo wrote:
"Telamon" wrote in message
...
I'm still waiting for a link for a 2nd generation HD radio from you in
quotes or did you forget?


The receivers coming later this year are third generation.


Say Eddie, is that third generation, or third rate?

Drifter...

--
"Regulatory capitalism is when companies invest in lawyers, lobbyists,
and politicians, instead of plant, people, and customer service."
- former FCC Chairman William Kennard (A real FCC Chairman,
unlike the current Corporate Spokesperson in the job!)

Telamon April 13th 08 10:09 PM

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In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
...

I'm still waiting for a link for a 2nd generation HD radio from you in
quotes or did you forget?


The receivers coming later this year are third generation.


And I say they would be 2nd generation because all the radios out there
in the market are 1st generation. So if you could point out a 2nd
generation radio design it would be helpful.

There were the prototypes with the demodulation part run on a card in a
computer. Then the 1st generation radios actually sold to the public
have general purpose DSP chips with all the supports parts needed to
adapt it to this specific IBOC application. The next generation will
have parts designed for IBOC and as such will have at least some degree
of optimization for this specific application. The parts count should
reduce and the required power should reduce. Hopefully performance will
improve and there will be more features provided.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

David Eduardo[_4_] April 13th 08 11:40 PM

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"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
...

I'm still waiting for a link for a 2nd generation HD radio from you in
quotes or did you forget?


The receivers coming later this year are third generation.


And I say they would be 2nd generation because all the radios out there
in the market are 1st generation. So if you could point out a 2nd
generation radio design it would be helpful.


No, they are not all first generation. Everything up to the BA Receptof HD
was first generation, and the stuff of the last two years is second
generation.

There were the prototypes with the demodulation part run on a card in a
computer. Then the 1st generation radios actually sold to the public
have general purpose DSP chips with all the supports parts needed to
adapt it to this specific IBOC application. The next generation will
have parts designed for IBOC and as such will have at least some degree
of optimization for this specific application. The parts count should
reduce and the required power should reduce. Hopefully performance will
improve and there will be more features provided.


The first generation is a description of the pre-FCC authorization
receivers. Second generation is what is out now, and thirds is what you will
see in Q3 to Q4.



[email protected] April 13th 08 11:47 PM

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Four daughters? My mom and dad had four daughters and two sons, I am one
of their sons.I got along A OK with my four sisters.I left them alone
and they left me alone.

www.devilfinder.com 4 Marys

Neither one of their names is Mary.
cuhulin


Telamon April 13th 08 11:52 PM

Eduardo is just angry about the latest Arbitron study of the HD Radio farce
 
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
.
..

I'm still waiting for a link for a 2nd generation HD radio from you in
quotes or did you forget?


The receivers coming later this year are third generation.


And I say they would be 2nd generation because all the radios out there
in the market are 1st generation. So if you could point out a 2nd
generation radio design it would be helpful.


No, they are not all first generation. Everything up to the BA Receptof HD
was first generation, and the stuff of the last two years is second
generation.

There were the prototypes with the demodulation part run on a card in a
computer. Then the 1st generation radios actually sold to the public
have general purpose DSP chips with all the supports parts needed to
adapt it to this specific IBOC application. The next generation will
have parts designed for IBOC and as such will have at least some degree
of optimization for this specific application. The parts count should
reduce and the required power should reduce. Hopefully performance will
improve and there will be more features provided.


The first generation is a description of the pre-FCC authorization
receivers. Second generation is what is out now, and thirds is what you will
see in Q3 to Q4.


I disagree with your generational descriptions. They are not correct.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon April 14th 08 12:41 AM

Eduardo is just angry about the latest Arbitron study of the HD Radio farce
 
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
.
..

I'm still waiting for a link for a 2nd generation HD radio from you in
quotes or did you forget?


The receivers coming later this year are third generation.


And I say they would be 2nd generation because all the radios out there
in the market are 1st generation. So if you could point out a 2nd
generation radio design it would be helpful.


No, they are not all first generation. Everything up to the BA Receptof HD
was first generation, and the stuff of the last two years is second
generation.


There is no real difference between what you call the 1st and 2nd
generation.

There were the prototypes with the demodulation part run on a card in a
computer. Then the 1st generation radios actually sold to the public
have general purpose DSP chips with all the supports parts needed to
adapt it to this specific IBOC application. The next generation will
have parts designed for IBOC and as such will have at least some degree
of optimization for this specific application. The parts count should
reduce and the required power should reduce. Hopefully performance will
improve and there will be more features provided.


The first generation is a description of the pre-FCC authorization
receivers. Second generation is what is out now, and thirds is what you will
see in Q3 to Q4.


These were the prototypes.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Rfburns April 14th 08 12:54 AM

Eduardo is just angry about the latest Arbitron study of the HDRadio farce
 
On Apr 13, 2:26 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:

Not with four daughters, I don't.


Eduardo - You should not be reproducing.

jw


IBOCcrock April 14th 08 01:00 AM

Eduardo is just angry about the latest Arbitron study of the HDRadio farce
 
On Apr 13, 4:32�pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Telamon" wrote in message

....



I'm still waiting for a link for a 2nd generation HD radio from you in
quotes or did you forget?


The receivers coming later this year are third generation.


The HD chipsets are still way too power-hungry for portable devices:

"HD Radio"

"Until now, portable HD Radio receivers have been unavailable because
the chipsets needed by this technology required too much power to be
practical for a battery-operated device. However, in January 2008 at
the Consumer Electronics Show (CES) in Las Vegas iBiquity unveiled a
prototype of a new iPod-sized portable receiver. It is based on a new
chipset developed by Samsung. Although portable, it is still a
relatively power-hungry device (it will run on an average set of
alkaline batteries in about two hours, according to an iBiquity
engineer)."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HD_Radio

"Sirius Satellite Radio"

"Sirius Stiletto 100 - the first portable Sirius radio that allows
subscribers to listen to live Sirius programming... The unit's
batteries give the user approximately 30 hours of life."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sirius_Satellite_Radio

LOL!


IBOCcrock April 14th 08 01:01 AM

Eduardo is just angry about the latest Arbitron study of the HDRadio farce
 
On Apr 13, 2:26�pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Telamon" wrote in message

....





In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:


"Billy Burpelson" wrote in message
t...
Telamon wrote:


Another thing I noticed is this "????" or "???". Most of your posts
have
sentences followed by 3 or 4 question marks so are you extra confused?


An interesting grammatical question, especially coming from one who
hasn't
yet grasped the difference between "to" and "too".


... or "hansom" and "handsome."


(She said Telamon is the most hansom SWL on the west coast of America.)


That was for cuhulin, you know hansom Harry.


But women are not something you need to worry about Eduardo.


Not with four daughters, I don't.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


What's it like to know that they have done the "dirty deed"?

IBOCcrock April 14th 08 01:04 AM

Eduardo is just angry about the latest Arbitron study of the HDRadio farce
 
On Apr 13, 2:26�pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Telamon" wrote in message

....





In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:


"Billy Burpelson" wrote in message
t...
Telamon wrote:


Another thing I noticed is this "????" or "???". Most of your posts
have
sentences followed by 3 or 4 question marks so are you extra confused?


An interesting grammatical question, especially coming from one who
hasn't
yet grasped the difference between "to" and "too".


... or "hansom" and "handsome."


(She said Telamon is the most hansom SWL on the west coast of America.)


That was for cuhulin, you know hansom Harry.


But women are not something you need to worry about Eduardo.


Not with four daughters, I don't.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


You've got five females, whipp'n boy! Any of them ever get pregnant,
as teenagers?

David Eduardo[_4_] April 14th 08 01:43 AM

Eduardo is just angry about the latest Arbitron study of the HD Radio farce
 

"Telamon" wrote in message
...

The first generation is a description of the pre-FCC authorization
receivers. Second generation is what is out now, and thirds is what you
will
see in Q3 to Q4.


These were the prototypes.


Those were not prototypes. They were units like the Pioneer car stereos (the
ones nearly every engineer had) with HD and the BA Receptor.




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