Improve the Rec.Radio.Shortwave Newsgroup
-by- Make On-Topic Posts
-and- Being a Positive Contributor

Again I Repeat - One Positive Post that is about Shortwave Radio
does Four Times (4X) More Good in Keeping this Newsgroup
"Focused" On-Topic then Off-Topic (OT) Posts -or- Atacks on
'other' Members of the Newsgroup.

A Positive Shortwave Radio or Radio Related Post can
and does often generate a follow-up Reply by someone
else and that becomes the beginning of Real Content
for other Readers to R-E-A-D ! {Good Content }

People come here to R-E-A-D and Post -but- It Most Often
Starts with Reading and then a Reply. {Good Content}

On the Average One Good Original On-Topic Post will
generate Four or More Replies. {Good Content }

All Open Un-Moderated Newsgroups have their Off-Topic Posts
and SPAM [BAD CONTENT] -but- The Good Newsgroups also
have a Larger Share (Much More) of their {Good Content }

It is the S/N Ratio of {Good Content } over [BAD CONTENT]
that makes a Newsgroup Interesting-to-Read and -imho- a
Good Newsgroup.

Again Reap-What-You-Sow : The Challenge for Everyone

Once-a-Week Endeavor To :
* Post an Answer to One Newbies Question
* Post One Shortwave Radio Reception Report (SWR3)
* Post One : Me-Too / Atta-Boy / That Was Interesting
Reply to a Post that you though was deserving.
* Post Info about One Website that is Shortwave Radio
or Radio Related.
+ That Something Extra that is Uniquely You )

Imagine Yourself and 20 Other Members of this Newsgroup
Being Positive Contributers to this Newsgroup and Posting
Four (4) such Messages and Replies each Week : That
would add-up to 80 Messages about 11 per Day for each
Day of the Week. The Quality Signal Level would Go Up
and even -if- the Noise Level stayed the same the Signal
to Noise Level would improve Greatly.

Everyone - It's Your Newsgroup -but- Only -if- You Contribute
in a Positive Way -by- Being-a-Contributor "Poster" and not
simply a Reader {Consumer}.

=PS= Newsgroup "Consumers" -aka- Readers : Take That
First-Step and Post a simple "Atta-Boy" or "Ditto That" reply.

Knocking On "The-Other-Guy" simply makes you out to be
one more Whiner and simply adds to the Noise Level of the
Newsgroup.
-and- I Believe That Each of You Are Better Than That.

Everyone - Be Better At Being Yourself - Love The Reason
For You Being Here as a Member of Rec.Radio/Shortwave :
More Than You Hate Anyone Else Here.

Improve the rrs newsgroup -by- make on-topic posts
-not- positive contributions ~ RHF

On Apr 14, 12:55�pm, RHF wrote:
Improve the Rec.Radio.Shortwave Newsgroup
-by- Make On-Topic Posts
-and- Being a Positive Contributor

Again I Repeat - One Positive Post that is about Shortwave Radio
does Four Times (4X) More Good in Keeping this Newsgroup
"Focused" On-Topic then Off-Topic (OT) Posts -or- Atacks on
'other' Members of the Newsgroup.

A Positive Shortwave Radio or Radio Related Post can
and does often generate a follow-up Reply by someone
else and that becomes the beginning of Real Content
for other Readers to R-E-A-D ! �{Good Content }

People come here to R-E-A-D and Post -but- It Most Often
Starts with Reading and then a Reply. �{Good Content}

On the Average One Good Original On-Topic Post will
generate Four or More Replies. {Good Content }

All Open Un-Moderated Newsgroups have their Off-Topic Posts
and SPAM [BAD CONTENT] -but- The Good Newsgroups also
have a Larger Share (Much More) of their {Good Content }

It is the S/N Ratio of {Good Content } over [BAD CONTENT]
that makes a Newsgroup Interesting-to-Read and -imho- a
Good Newsgroup.

Again Reap-What-You-Sow : The Challenge for Everyone

Once-a-Week Endeavor To :
* Post an Answer to One Newbies Question
* Post One Shortwave Radio Reception Report (SWR3)
* Post One : Me-Too / Atta-Boy / That Was Interesting
Reply to a Post that you though was deserving.
* Post Info about One Website that is Shortwave Radio
or Radio Related.
+ That Something Extra that is Uniquely You )

Imagine Yourself and 20 Other Members of this Newsgroup
Being Positive Contributers to this Newsgroup and Posting
Four (4) such Messages and Replies each Week : That
would add-up to 80 Messages about 11 per Day for each
Day of the Week. �The Quality Signal Level would Go Up
and even -if- the Noise Level stayed the same the Signal
to Noise Level would improve Greatly.

Everyone - It's Your Newsgroup -but- Only -if- You Contribute
in a Positive Way -by- Being-a-Contributor "Poster" and not
simply a Reader {Consumer}.

=PS= Newsgroup "Consumers" -aka- Readers : Take That
First-Step and Post a simple "Atta-Boy" or "Ditto That" reply.

Knocking On "The-Other-Guy" simply makes you out to be
one more Whiner and simply adds to the Noise Level of the
Newsgroup.
-and- I Believe That Each of You Are Better Than That.

Everyone - Be Better At Being Yourself - Love The Reason
For You Being Here as a Member of Rec.Radio/Shortwave :
More Than You Hate Anyone Else Here.

Improve the rrs newsgroup -by- make on-topic posts
-not- positive contributions ~ RHF
�.

STFU!

On Apr 14, 9:13Â*pm, IBOCcrock wrote:
On Apr 14, 12:55�pm, RHF wrote:


Improve the Rec.Radio.Shortwave Newsgroup
-by- Make On-Topic Posts
-and- Being a Positive Contributor

Again I Repeat - One Positive Post that is about Shortwave Radio
does Four Times (4X) More Good in Keeping this Newsgroup
"Focused" On-Topic then Off-Topic (OT) Posts -or- Atacks on
'other' Members of the Newsgroup.

A Positive Shortwave Radio or Radio Related Post can
and does often generate a follow-up Reply by someone
else and that becomes the beginning of Real Content
for other Readers to R-E-A-D ! �{Good Content }

People come here to R-E-A-D and Post -but- It Most Often
Starts with Reading and then a Reply. �{Good Content}

On the Average One Good Original On-Topic Post will
generate Four or More Replies. {Good Content }

All Open Un-Moderated Newsgroups have their Off-Topic Posts
and SPAM [BAD CONTENT] -but- The Good Newsgroups also
have a Larger Share (Much More) of their {Good Content }

It is the S/N Ratio of {Good Content } over [BAD CONTENT]
that makes a Newsgroup Interesting-to-Read and -imho- a
Good Newsgroup.

Again Reap-What-You-Sow : The Challenge for Everyone

Once-a-Week Endeavor To :
* Post an Answer to One Newbies Question
* Post One Shortwave Radio Reception Report (SWR3)
* Post One : Me-Too / Atta-Boy / That Was Interesting
Reply to a Post that you though was deserving.
* Post Info about One Website that is Shortwave Radio
or Radio Related.
+ That Something Extra that is Uniquely You )

Imagine Yourself and 20 Other Members of this Newsgroup
Being Positive Contributers to this Newsgroup and Posting
Four (4) such Messages and Replies each Week : That
would add-up to 80 Messages about 11 per Day for each
Day of the Week. �The Quality Signal Level would Go Up
and even -if- the Noise Level stayed the same the Signal
to Noise Level would improve Greatly.

Everyone - It's Your Newsgroup -but- Only -if- You Contribute
in a Positive Way -by- Being-a-Contributor "Poster" and not
simply a Reader {Consumer}.

=PS= Newsgroup "Consumers" -aka- Readers : Take That
First-Step and Post a simple "Atta-Boy" or "Ditto That" reply.

Knocking On "The-Other-Guy" simply makes you out to be
one more Whiner and simply adds to the Noise Level of the
Newsgroup.
-and- I Believe That Each of You Are Better Than That.

Everyone - Be Better At Being Yourself - Love The Reason
For You Being Here as a Member of Rec.Radio/Shortwave :
More Than You Hate Anyone Else Here.

Improve the rrs newsgroup -by- make on-topic posts
-not- positive contributions ~ RHF
�.

- STFU!

IBOCcrock - You are most eloquent when you say the least.

Plus for you this was 'original' and not a Cut-and-Paste
of someone else's original content.

(OT) : IBOCcrock "S T F U !"

-ps- Back At You - In Your Own Words. ~ RHF

Honestly IBOCcrock - Except for the Chinese Spammers
You and Your Sock-Puppets are the next real source of
Non Shortwave Radio related Messages posted here on
a regular basis.
http://objektnot.com/images/octopus_sock_puppets.jpg

IBOCcrock - You use Anti-HD-Radio to mask your
true theme which is ANTI "Old Media" meaning Free
Over-the-Air AM & FM Radio.

"RHF"

Honestly IBOCcrock - Except for the Chinese Spammers
You and Your Sock-Puppets are the next real source of
Non Shortwave Radio related Messages posted here on
a regular basis.
http://objektnot.com/images/octopus_sock_puppets.jpg

IBOCcrock - You use Anti-HD-Radio to mask your
true theme which is ANTI "Old Media" meaning Free
Over-the-Air AM & FM Radio.

On Apr 14, 9:55*am, RHF wrote:
Improve the Rec.Radio.Shortwave Newsgroup
-by- Make On-Topic Posts
-and- Being a Positive Contributor

Again I Repeat - One Positive Post that is about Shortwave Radio
does Four Times (4X) More Good in Keeping this Newsgroup
"Focused" On-Topic then Off-Topic (OT) Posts -or- Atacks on
'other' Members of the Newsgroup.

A Positive Shortwave Radio or Radio Related Post can
and does often generate a follow-up Reply by someone
else and that becomes the beginning of Real Content
for other Readers to R-E-A-D ! *{Good Content }

People come here to R-E-A-D and Post -but- It Most Often
Starts with Reading and then a Reply. *{Good Content}

On the Average One Good Original On-Topic Post will
generate Four or More Replies. {Good Content }

All Open Un-Moderated Newsgroups have their Off-Topic Posts
and SPAM [BAD CONTENT] -but- The Good Newsgroups also
have a Larger Share (Much More) of their {Good Content }

It is the S/N Ratio of {Good Content } over [BAD CONTENT]
that makes a Newsgroup Interesting-to-Read and -imho- a
Good Newsgroup.

Again Reap-What-You-Sow : The Challenge for Everyone

Once-a-Week Endeavor To :
* Post an Answer to One Newbies Question
* Post One Shortwave Radio Reception Report (SWR3)
* Post One : Me-Too / Atta-Boy / That Was Interesting
Reply to a Post that you though was deserving.
* Post Info about One Website that is Shortwave Radio
or Radio Related.
+ That Something Extra that is Uniquely You )

Imagine Yourself and 20 Other Members of this Newsgroup
Being Positive Contributers to this Newsgroup and Posting
Four (4) such Messages and Replies each Week : That
would add-up to 80 Messages about 11 per Day for each
Day of the Week. *The Quality Signal Level would Go Up
and even -if- the Noise Level stayed the same the Signal
to Noise Level would improve Greatly.

Everyone - It's Your Newsgroup -but- Only -if- You Contribute
in a Positive Way -by- Being-a-Contributor "Poster" and not
simply a Reader {Consumer}.

=PS= Newsgroup "Consumers" -aka- Readers : Take That
First-Step and Post a simple "Atta-Boy" or "Ditto That" reply.

Knocking On "The-Other-Guy" simply makes you out to be
one more Whiner and simply adds to the Noise Level of the
Newsgroup.
-and- I Believe That Each of You Are Better Than That.

Everyone - Be Better At Being Yourself - Love The Reason
For You Being Here as a Member of Rec.Radio/Shortwave :
More Than You Hate Anyone Else Here.

Improve the rrs newsgroup -by- make on-topic posts
-not- positive contributions ~ RHF
*.

JK,

That's Good Advise on Filtering the Subject Line
and in this 2008 Year of Election Politics may
I also suggest the following :
Election & Electoral
Vote & Voting
President & Presidential
Hillary & Clinton
Barack & Obama
?John? & McCain
Democrat & Republican

Natually : OT / (OT) / Off-Topic are a must in any
Subject-Line Filter - imho ~ RHF

On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 09:24:55 -0700 (PDT), RHF
wrote:

That's Good Advise on Filtering the Subject Line
and in this 2008 Year of Election Politics may
I also suggest the following :
Election & Electoral
Vote & Voting
President & Presidential
Hillary & Clinton
Barack & Obama
?John? & McCain
Democrat & Republican

Natually : OT / (OT) / Off-Topic are a must in any
Subject-Line Filter - imho ~ RHF

Yes...and in the case of this newsgroup, a filter to remove
rec.radio.info posting guidelines that don't belong here would also
seem to be in order. Unfortunately, filters set in the newsgroups
don't work on e-mail.

Therefore, this morning I received an e-mail reply from someone at
panix.com (from which the rri/rrapm moderation team carries out its
dirty work) concerning the FAQ for this newsgroup, and to which I
composed a reply to the effect that apparently nobody in this group is
interested in their group, its posting guidelines, or its moderation
team.

Somehow, I doubt that this will convince them to concern themselves
with their own groups and leave ours alone, but at least I tried.

JK

panix,,, smanix,,, Sometimes I am on topic.Most times not.
cuhulin

On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 13:30:00 -0500, wrote:

panix,,, smanix,,, Sometimes I am on topic.Most times not.
cuhulin

And for those times when you're not, well, that's where the filtering
methods I mentioned in another thread come in. :-)

In my reply to their e-mail I made the point that it seems most of the
regulars here find their crossposted material inappropriate and that
they are seen as trying to insinuate themselves into the affairs of
another newsgroup despite not being wanted here, but as I said to RHF,
I don't know if it will do any good. For the record though, I did try.

I do want to get back to updating the newsgroup's FAQ docs though, and
would still like to hear from knowledgeable individuals interested in
contributing to that effort.

While I could care less about the r.r.i crew, I guess I at least owe
you guys here an explanation. I was away from the group here for a
little over a month.

Ironically, it was sort of because of radio interests that this
happened. Back in January, I ordered a SignaLink USB from
Tigertronics. It finally arrived on a Tuesday in mid-February, and the
same evening I set its internal jumpers for my Kenwood TS-450S/AT and
connected it to the rig and the computer that I had planned to use for
this purpose, a 333 MHz P2 MMX running Windows ME.

After I had it installed and working and had made a few contacts using
the program WinMx and some other software that came on a mini-CD
bundled with the SignaLink USB. at that point I decided that I also
wanted to try using it with Ham Radio Deluxe and the included (with
newer releases) Digital Master 780. The older version of HRD that I
had, which ran fine under Windows ME did not include DM780. A newer
version was required to get DM780, and Windows 2000 or newer is
necessary to run that new version.

I upgraded the OS on that machine to Windows 2000 on Wednesday, and it
ran so slowly as to be completely infuriating. If I had run DM780
alone it probably would have been fine, but I wanted HRD running with
it, and when i did that, the machine was so ridiculously dog-slow I
just couldn't stand it. My old 486 DX/4-100 with Windows 3.1 that I
had ten years ago was faster than that P2 333 MMX running Win2K.

Finding this totally unacceptable, on Thursday I ordered the parts
from Newegg to build a new machine. Intel dual core 2 GHz CPU, 4 GB of
dual-channel interleaved RAM, twin 600 GB SATA hard disks, nice full
tower case with individual removable drive bays (because SATA drives
are hot-swappable as long as you don't yank the one containing the
partition the OS resides on...the hardware doesn't care but the OS
gets very upset indeed!). Windows XP Professional x64 Edition, I was
not about to spend the $249 that Vista Home Edition was going for at
the time when I could get an OEM version of XP Pro x64 for $79.

Also around this time I ditched my old dialup internet access in favor
of DSL. So, after assembly of the new machine, I had to back up
everything on two computers, set up the OS and a ton of other software
on the new machine, upgrade the other machine (a Dell GX110 667 MHz
P3) from Windows ME to Win2K (not wanting to waste Win2K now that I
had it), get the LAN set up again using the NAT router instead of CAT5
between two NIC cards, get my DSL working, and restore what was backed
up to the Dell.

Firewall rules had to be set up in the NAT router. Software firewalls,
antivirus, etc. installed on both machines along with the applications
I wanted to be able to run on each. I was installing stuff at 3:00 in
the morning running on coffee and adrenaline. At one point, with seven
Firefox windows, two IE windows, an instance of Winamp, an MS Word
document, a PDF document in Adobe Acrobat, and four Notepad windows
open, I clicked Tile Windows Vertically instead of Show Desktop. You
haven't lived unless you have witnessed what a mess you get when you
do that.

By the time I finished all this, I was facing a column deadline and
numerous meetings and training classes related to public service
activities (as well as club meetings, and other, purely frivolous
activities that seemed to have been put on hold for weeks such as
eating and sleeping). I didn't even have time to handle my e-mail
(there are still 137 unread messages in my e-mail inbox as I type
this), let alone read/post messages to Usenet.

On top of which, Verizon tech support, when asked what the name of the
NNTP server was, told me that Verizon didn't support that. I had to
find out a week later at like 3:30 in the morning by accidentally
typing news.verizon.net into my client program instead of what I meant
to type in, and subsequently receiving an error message announcing a
protocol error rather than the error I should have gotten if
news.verizon.net didn't exist. Yes, "Verizon Tech Support" is an
oxymoron, like "military intelligence" or "Microsoft Works" or
anything along those lines. Thankfully I'm knowledgeable enough about
computers and networking that I don't have to depend on them, and knew
better than to install the Verizon software that came with the router
so that it could hijack my web browser to some stupid Verizon "start
page" - but anyway, I'm back.....no thanks to Verizon Tech Nonsupport.

The good news is, I can happily report that the SignaLink USB works
just fine with HRD/DM780 and HRD/DM780 run just fine under the 64-bit
version of XP. The bad news is, I now have a lot of catching up to do.
This is a fresh installation of my NNTP client on this machine and
this morning it downloaded 32000+ message headers in this newsgroup.

I'll post the current "Welcome To rec.radio.shortwave" document again
later tonight or early tomorrow. Same as the one posted by me
previously except that it will reflect my new e-mail address (the
result of the change in ISP due to getting DSL) and the rewording of
the copyright info that I promised back in January in response to RHF
mentioning something about how I worded the copyright info. This will
also be available at the web address given in the original document,
probably by the time you read this.

JK

There are ''experts'' out there, everywhere.They ''think'' they know
everything.Yet, they dont know Anything.Just like those chumps in that
phonograph radio Stupid newsgroup.They are DUMB!
cuhulin

Come on over here, doggy.Scarf then cookie crumb,,,,,
cuhulin