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Default 50 Outrageous Lies by Barack Obama

Obama's Fifty Outrageous Lies

1) Selma Got Me Born - LIAR, your parents felt safe enough to have you
in 1961 - Selma had no effect on your birth, as Selma was in 1965.

2) Father Was A Goat Herder - LIAR, he was a privileged, well educated
youth, who went on to work with the Kenyan Government.

3) Father Was A Proud Freedom Fighter - LIAR, he was part of one of
the most corrupt and violent governments Kenya has ever had.

4) My Family Has Strong Ties To African Freedom - LIAR, your cousin
Raila Odinga has created mass violence in attempting to overturn a
legitimate election in 2007, in Kenya. It is the first widespread
violence in decades.

5) My Grandmother Has Always Been A Christian - LIAR, she does her
daily Salat prayers at 5am according to her own interviews. According to
the New York Times: "I am a strong believer of the Islamic faith," Ms.
Obama, 85, said in a recent interview in Kenya.' Not to mention,
Christianity wouldn't allow her to have been one of 14 wives to 1 man.

6) My Name is African Swahili - LIAR, your name is Arabic and 'Baraka'
(from which Barack came) means 'blessed' in that language. Hussein is
also Arabic and so is Obama.

7) I Never Practiced Islam - LIAR, you practiced it daily at school,
where you were registered as a Muslim and kept that faith for 31
years,until your wife made you change, so you could run for office.

8) My School In Indonesia Was Christian - LIAR, you were registered as
Muslim there and got in trouble in Koranic Studies for making faces
(check your own book).

9) I Was Fluent In Indonesian - LIAR, not one teacher says you could
speak the language.

10) Because I Lived In Indonesia, I Have More Foreign Experience -
LIAR, you were there from the ages of 6 to 10, and couldn't even speak
the language. What did you learn, how to study the Koran and watch
cartoons?

11) I Am Stronger On Foreign Affairs - LIAR, except for Africa
(surprise) and the Middle East (bigger surprise), you have never been
anywhere else on the planet and thus have NO experience with our closest
allies. You seek to disarm America while our avowed enemy, Iran, will
not subject itself to a nuclear ban. Top Hamas politica l adviser Ahmed
Yousef said the Hamas terrorist group 'supports Obama's foreign policy
vision'.

12) I Blame My Early Drug Use On Ethnic Confusion - LIAR, you were
quite content in high school to be Barry Obama, no mention of Kenya and
no mention of struggle to identify - your classmates said you were just
fine.

13) An Ebony Article Moved Me To Run For Office - LIAR, Ebony has yet
to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn't, and never did,
exist.

14) A Life Magazine Article Changed My Outlook On Life - LIAR, Life has
yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn't, and never
did, exist.

15) I Won't Run On A National Ticket In '08 - LIAR, here you are,
despite saying, live on TV, that you would not have enough experience by
then, and you are all about having experience first.

16) Present Votes Are Common In Illinois - LIAR, they are common for
YOU, but not many others have 130 NO VOTES.

17) Oops, I Misvoted - LIAR, only when caught by church groups and
Democrats, did you beg to change your misvote.

18) I Was A Professor Of Law - LIAR, you were a senior lecturer ON
LEAVE.

19) I Was A Constitutional Lawyer - LIAR, you were a senior lecturer ON
LEAVE.

20) Without Me, There Would Be No Ethics Bill - LIAR, you didn't write
it,introduce it, change it, or create it.

21) The Ethics Bill Was Hard To Pass - LIAR, it took just 14 days from
start to finish.

22) I Wrote A Tough Nuclear Bill - LIAR, your bill was rejected by your
own party for its pandering and lack of all regulation - mainly because
of your Nuclear Donor, Exelon, from which David Axelrod came.

23) I Have Released My State Records - LIAR, as of March, 2008, state
bills you sponsored or voted for have yet to be released, exposing all
the special interests pork hidden within.

24) I Took On The Asbestos Altgeld Gardens Mess - LIAR, you were part
of a large group of people who remedied Altgeld Gardens. You failed to
mention anyone else but yourself, in your books.

25) My Economics Bill Will Help America - LIAR, your 111 economic
policies were just combined into a proposal which lost 99-0, and even
YOU voted against your own bill.

26) I Have Been A Bold Leader In Illinois - LIAR, even your own
supporters claim to have not seen BOLD action on your part.

27) I Passed 26 Of My Own Bills In One Year - LIAR, they were not YOUR
bills, but rather handed to you, after their creation by a fellow
Senator, to assist you in a future bid for higher office.

28) No One Contacted Canada About NAFTA - LIAR, the Candian Government
issued the names and a memo of the conversation your campaign had with
them.

29) I Am Tough On Terrorism - LIAR, you missed the Iran Resolution vote
on terrorism and your good friend Ali Abunimah supports the destruction
of Israel. You state you will open friendly communication with the
Leader of Iran who is attempting to develop nuclear weapons to destroy
us, but refuse to speak to FOX news. You are against provisions of the
Patriot act which would all wiretapping of the phones of suspected
terrorists in the USA.

30) I Am Not Acting As President Yet - LIAR, after the NAFTA Memo, a
dead terrorist in the FARC, in Colombia, was found with a letter stating
how you and he were working together on getting FARC recognized
officially.

31) I Didn't Run Ads In Florida - LIAR, you allowed national ads to run
8-12 times per day for two weeks - and you still lost.

32) I Won Michigan - LIAR, no you didn't.

33) I won Nevada - LIAR, no you did not.

34) I Want All Votes To Count - LIAR, you said let the delegates
decide.

35) I Want Americans To Decide - LIAR, you prefer caucuses that limit
the vote, confuse the voters, force a public vote, and only operate
during small windows of time.

36) I passed 900 Bills in the State Senate - LIAR, you passed 26, most
of which you didn't write yourself.

37) My Campaign Was Extorted By A Friend - LIAR, that friend is
threatening to sue if you do not stop saying this. Obama has stopped
saying this.

38) I Believe In Fairness, Not Tactics - LIAR, you used tactics to
eliminate Alice Palmer from running against you.

39) I Don't Take PAC Money - LIAR, you take loads of it.

40) I don't Have Lobbysists - LIAR, you have over 47 lobbyists, and
counting.

41) My Campaign Had Nothing To Do With The 1984 Ad - LIAR, your own
campaign worker made the ad on his Apple in one afternoon.

42) My Campaign Never Took Over MySpace - LIAR, Tom, who started
MySpace issued a warning about this advertising to MySpace clients.

43) I Inspire People With My Words - LIAR, you inspire people with
other people's words.

44) I Have Passed Bills In The U.S. Senate - LIAR, you have passed A
BILL in the U.S. Senate - for Africa, which shows YOUR priorities.

45) I Have Always Been Against Iraq - LIAR, you weren't in office to
vote against it AND you have voted to fund it every single time, unlike
Kucinich, who seems to be out gutting you Obama. You also seem to be
stepping back from your departure date - AGAIN.

46) I Have Always Supported Universal Health Care - LIAR, your plan
leaves us all to pay the 15,000,000 who don't have to buy it.

47) I Only Found Out About My Investment Conflicts Via Mail - LIAR,
both companies you site as having sent you letters about this conflict
have no record of any such letter ever being created or sent.

48) I Am As Patriotic As Anyone - LIAR, you won't wear a flag pin and
you don't put your hand over your heart during the Anthem. There is a
Cuban Flag with Che Guevara Displayed at Barack Obama Campaign Office
which you allow to be displayed. You voted against making english the
official language of the United States. You voted to give illegal aliens
social security benefits, which would bankrupt the social security
system for Americans legally paying into it.

49) My Wife Didn't Mean What She Said About Pride In Country - LIAR,
your wife's words follow lock-step in the vain of Rev. Wright and Louis
Farrahkan, in relation to their contempt and hatred of America.

50) Wal-Mart Is A Company I Wouldn't Support - LIAR, your wife has
received nearly a quarter of a million dollars through Treehouse, which
is connected to Wal-Mart.
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Default 50 Outrageous Lies by Barack Obama

It is interesting to see that even Snopes is having a hard time
debunking that list which, it seems, was drawn from Obama's own books.

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Default 50 Outrageous Lies by Barack Obama

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On May 16, 7:59*am, Dave wrote:
Obama's Fifty Outrageous Lies

1) Selma Got Me Born - LIAR, your parents felt safe enough to have you
in 1961 - Selma had no effect on your birth, as Selma was in 1965.

2) Father Was A Goat Herder - LIAR, he was a privileged, well educated
youth, who went on to work with the Kenyan Government.

3) Father Was A Proud Freedom Fighter - LIAR, he was part of one of
the most corrupt and violent governments Kenya has ever had.

4) My Family Has Strong Ties To African Freedom - LIAR, your cousin
Raila Odinga has created mass violence in attempting to overturn a
legitimate election in 2007, in Kenya. It is the first widespread
violence in decades.

5) My Grandmother Has Always Been A Christian - LIAR, she does her
daily Salat prayers at 5am according to her own interviews. According to
the New York Times: "I am a strong believer of the Islamic faith," Ms.
Obama, 85, said in a recent interview in Kenya.' Not to mention,
Christianity wouldn't allow her to have been one of 14 wives to 1 man.

6) My Name is African Swahili - LIAR, your name is Arabic and 'Baraka'
(from which Barack came) means 'blessed' in that language. Hussein is
also Arabic and so is Obama.

7) I Never Practiced Islam - LIAR, you practiced it daily at school,
where you were registered as a Muslim and kept that faith for 31
years,until your wife made you change, so you could run for office.

8) My School In Indonesia Was Christian - LIAR, you were registered as
Muslim there and got in trouble in Koranic Studies for making faces
(check your own book).

9) I Was Fluent In Indonesian - LIAR, not one teacher says you could
speak the language.

10) Because I Lived In Indonesia, I Have More Foreign Experience -
LIAR, you were there from the ages of 6 to 10, and couldn't even speak
the language. What did you learn, how to study the Koran and watch
cartoons?

11) I Am Stronger On Foreign Affairs - LIAR, except for Africa
(surprise) and the Middle East (bigger surprise), you have never been
anywhere else on the planet and thus have NO experience with our closest
allies. You seek to disarm America while our avowed enemy, Iran, will
not subject itself to a nuclear ban. Top Hamas politica l adviser Ahmed
Yousef said the Hamas terrorist group 'supports Obama's foreign policy
vision'.

12) I Blame My Early Drug Use On Ethnic Confusion - LIAR, you were
quite content in high school to be Barry Obama, no mention of Kenya and
no mention of struggle to identify - your classmates said you were just
fine.

13) An Ebony Article Moved Me To Run For Office - LIAR, Ebony has yet
to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn't, and never did,
exist.

14) A Life Magazine Article Changed My Outlook On Life - LIAR, Life has
yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn't, and never
did, exist.

15) I Won't Run On A National Ticket In '08 - LIAR, here you are,
despite saying, live on TV, that you would not have enough experience by
then, and you are all about having experience first.

16) Present Votes Are Common In Illinois - LIAR, they are common for
YOU, but not many others have 130 NO VOTES.

17) Oops, I Misvoted - LIAR, only when caught by church groups and
Democrats, did you beg to change your misvote.

18) I Was A Professor Of Law - LIAR, you were a senior lecturer ON
LEAVE.

19) I Was A Constitutional Lawyer - LIAR, you were a senior lecturer ON
LEAVE.

20) Without Me, There Would Be No Ethics Bill - LIAR, you didn't write
it,introduce it, change it, or create it.

21) The Ethics Bill Was Hard To Pass - LIAR, it took just 14 days from
start to finish.

22) I Wrote A Tough Nuclear Bill - LIAR, your bill was rejected by your
own party for its pandering and lack of all regulation - mainly because
of your Nuclear Donor, Exelon, from which David Axelrod came.

23) I Have Released My State Records - LIAR, as of March, 2008, state
bills you sponsored or voted for have yet to be released, exposing all
the special interests pork hidden within.

24) I Took On The Asbestos Altgeld Gardens Mess - LIAR, you were part
of a large group of people who remedied Altgeld Gardens. You failed to
mention anyone else but yourself, in your books.

25) My Economics Bill Will Help America - LIAR, your 111 economic
policies were just combined into a proposal which lost 99-0, and even
YOU voted against your own bill.

26) I Have Been A Bold Leader In Illinois - LIAR, even your own
supporters claim to have not seen BOLD action on your part.

27) I Passed 26 Of My Own Bills In One Year - LIAR, they were not YOUR
bills, but rather handed to you, after their creation by a fellow
Senator, to assist you in a future bid for higher office.

28) No One Contacted Canada About NAFTA - LIAR, the Candian Government
issued the names and a memo of the conversation your campaign had with
them.

29) I Am Tough On Terrorism - LIAR, you missed the Iran Resolution vote
on terrorism and your good friend Ali Abunimah supports the destruction
of Israel. You state you will open friendly communication with the
Leader of Iran who is attempting to develop nuclear weapons to destroy
us, but refuse to speak to FOX news. You are against provisions of the
Patriot act which would all wiretapping of the phones of suspected
terrorists in the USA.

30) I Am Not Acting As President Yet - LIAR, after the NAFTA Memo, a
dead terrorist in the FARC, in Colombia, was found with a letter stating
how you and he were working together on getting FARC recognized
officially.

31) I Didn't Run Ads In Florida - LIAR, you allowed national ads to run
8-12 times per day for two weeks - and you still lost.

32) I Won Michigan - LIAR, no you didn't.

33) I won Nevada - LIAR, no you did not.

34) I Want All Votes To Count - LIAR, you said let the delegates
decide.

35) I Want Americans To Decide - LIAR, you prefer caucuses that limit
the vote, confuse the voters, force a public vote, and only operate
during small windows of time.

36) I passed 900 Bills in the State Senate - LIAR, you passed 26, most
of which you didn't write yourself.

37) My Campaign Was Extorted By A Friend - LIAR, that friend is
threatening to sue if you do not stop saying this. Obama has stopped
saying this.

38) I Believe In Fairness, Not Tactics - LIAR, you used tactics to
eliminate Alice Palmer from running against you.

39) I Don't Take PAC Money - LIAR, you take loads of it.

40) I don't Have Lobbysists - LIAR, you have over 47 lobbyists, and
counting.

41) My Campaign Had Nothing To Do With The 1984 Ad - LIAR, your own
campaign worker made the ad on his Apple in one afternoon.

42) My Campaign Never Took Over MySpace - LIAR, Tom, who started
MySpace issued a warning about this advertising to MySpace clients.

43) I Inspire People With My Words - LIAR, you inspire people with
other people's words.

44) I Have Passed Bills In The U.S. Senate - LIAR, you have passed A
BILL in the U.S. Senate - for Africa, which shows YOUR priorities.

45) I Have Always Been Against Iraq - LIAR, you weren't in office to
vote against it AND you have voted to fund it every single time, unlike
Kucinich, who seems to be out gutting you Obama. You also seem to be
stepping back from your departure date - AGAIN.

46) I Have Always Supported Universal Health Care - LIAR, your plan
leaves us all to pay the 15,000,000 who don't have to buy it.

47) I Only Found Out About My Investment Conflicts Via Mail - LIAR,
both companies you site as having sent you letters about this conflict
have no record of any such letter ever being created or sent.

48) I Am As Patriotic As Anyone - LIAR, you won't wear a flag pin and
you don't put your hand over your heart during the Anthem. There is a
Cuban Flag with Che Guevara Displayed at Barack Obama Campaign Office
which you allow to be displayed. You voted against making english the
official language of the United States. You voted to give illegal aliens
social security benefits, which would bankrupt the social security
system for Americans legally paying into it.

49) My Wife Didn't Mean What She Said About Pride In Country - LIAR,
your wife's words follow lock-step in the vain of Rev. Wright and Louis
Farrahkan, in relation to their contempt and hatred of America.

50) Wal-Mart Is A Company I Wouldn't Support - LIAR, your wife has
received nearly a quarter of a million dollars through Treehouse, which
is connected to Wal-Mart.


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Default (OT) : 50 Outrageous Lies -about- Democrat Party US Presidential Candidate Barack Hussein Obama Jr.

As the last line in your post suggests the truth will set you free.
Then why did you post that pack of un-truths. You are apparently not
free. It took me 37 seconds to find the rebuttal to the crap you
posted...apparently thats too much time to invest in the truth. 37
seconds in a Google search for the initial 50 Lies (good name for the
post) and the rebuttal.

==========Now will youpost this rebuttal with the enthusiasm as you
posted the initial POS?===================

I doubt it.
Follow your own sig line....but again I doubt it.



I am so sick of the spam that people send that is simply untrue. I
do enjoy debunking them so keep them coming as I love to hate them!!!
The latest batch will of course deal with Barack Obama. And as with
every single other of these emails the answer to the claims are out
there if you choose to look. Do a search of Google by putting the
first line of the spam into Google and then look for a post by Snopes
or UrbanLegends or other blogs that do real research as opposed to
opinion based blogs. It is easy to do and actually fun when you find
out the truth and then send the truth back to people to enlighten
them. Most people will see the accusatory email and this is the
response to send those people you receive the email from....with
footnotes as opposed to the accusations.

50 Truths about Barack Obama


1. Selma Got Me Born. Senator Obama meant that the civil rights
movement helped foster greater understanding between people of
different races, which made it possible for his mother and father to
have a relationship. He didn't mean that the events in Selma
literally led to his being conceived. Here is a section from that
speech:
http://www.barackobama.com/2007/03/0...march_comm.php

"What happened in Selma, Alabama and Birmingham also stirred the
conscience of the nation. It worried folks in the White House who
said, 'You know, we're battling Communism. How are we going to win
hearts and minds all across the world? If right here in our own
country, John, we're not observing the ideals set fort in our
Constitution, we might be accused of being hypocrites.' So the
Kennedys decided we're going to do an air lift. We're going to go to
Africa and start bringing young Africans over to this country and give
them scholarships to study so they can learn what a wonderful country
America is. This young man named Barack Obama got one of those tickets
and came over to this country. He met this woman whose great
great-great-great-grandfather had owned slaves; but she had a good
idea there was some craziness going on because they looked at each
other and they decided that we know that the world as it has been it
might not be possible for us to get together and have a child. There
was something stirring across the country because of what happened in
Selma, Alabama, because some folks are willing to march across a
bridge. So they got together and Barack Obama Jr. was born. So don't
tell me I don't have a claim on Selma, Alabama. Don't tell me I'm not
coming home to Selma, Alabama. I'm here because somebody marched. I'm
here because you all sacrificed for me. I stand on the shoulders of
giants. I thank the Moses generation; but we've got to remember, now,
that Joshua still had a job to do. As great as Moses was, despite all
that he did, leading a people out of bondage, he didn't cross over the
river to see the Promised Land. God told him your job is done. You'll
see it. You'll be at the mountain top and you can see what I've
promised. What I've promised to Abraham and Isaac and Jacob. You will
see that I've fulfilled that promise but you won't go there."

2. Father Was A Goat Herder. Barack Obama Sr. did grow up herding
sheep in a village in Kenya, and only got to go to America because he
earned a scholarship to study abroad at the age of 23. "Due to a
program offering Western educational opportunities to outstanding
Kenyan students that was organized by nationalist leader Tom Mboya,
Obama Sr. was awarded a scholarship in economics, and at the age of 23
he enrolled at the University of Hawaii."

3. Father Was A Proud Freedom Fighter. Senator Obama never claimed
that his father was a "proud freedom fighter." He has spoken frankly
about how his father went back to Kenya and served as a government
bureaucrat, until political problems led him to become a disillusioned
alcoholic in his later years.

4. My Family Has Strong Ties To African Freedom. Kenyan politician
Raila Odinga has claimed that he and Obama are related, though there
does not seem to be much evidence. In any case, Obama is actually
related to Dick Cheney, and I wouldn't hold that against him. See the
BBC: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7176683.stm

5. My Grandmother Has Always Been A Christian. Obama's grandmother IS
a Christian -- he was referring to his grandmother in Kansas. As most
people understand, a person has TWO grandmothers. The author confuses
Obama's U.S. and African-born grandmothers.

6. My Name is African Swahili. His first name, "Barack," is a word in
both Swahili and Arabic. See this page from the University of
Pennsylvania:
http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/langu...es/004187.html

7. I Never Practiced Islam. Senator Obama's mother did not raise him
with any religion. He attended both public and Catholic schools in
Indonesia. He never attended a "madrassah." See Time Magazine:
http://time-blog.com/swampland/2007/01/disgusting.html. and See
CNN.COM: http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/01/22/obama.madrassa/

8. My School In Indonesia Was Christian. He attended a Catholic school
in Indonesia for two years. The other two years were spent in public
schools.

9. I Was Fluent In Indonesian. Sen. Obama never claimed to be able to
speak Indonesian fluently. See Time Magazine:
http://www.time.com/time/politics/ar...695803,00.html

"Obama's years living in Indonesia, moreover, have made him the most
popular U.S. politician in Southeast Asia. When prominent Indonesians
visit the U.S., the first person they want to meet is Obama, says
Parnohadiningrat Sudjadnan, the Indonesian ambassador to the U.S.
"Back home people think of him as one of us, or at least one who
understands us," he says, adding that they are delighted to find that
Obama speaks passable Bahasa, the language spoken in Indonesia and
Malaysia."

10. Because I Lived In Indonesia , I Have More Foreign Experience. The
smear emails don't make much sense: they claim that Sen. Obama's time
in Indonesia was enough to turn him into a Muslim fanatic, but not
enough for him to have experience in foreign countries. Obama said
that his view of the world is different because of his childhood.
Anyone with a similar experience, as well as psychologists and
sociologists, can confirm this statement too (TPM).

See Time Magazine:
http://www.time.com/time/politics/ar...695803,00.html
"Some would argue that his childhood experiences, as well as his mixed
heritage (his father was Kenyan, his mother from Kansas), gives him a
better inner compass on foreign policy than most Americans. They cite
the pioneering work of Ruth Hill Useem, the late sociologist of
Michigan State University, who spent her career studying what she
called Third Culture Kids — the millions of U.S. children (an
estimated 20 million since the advent of mass air travel) who have
been carted abroad by their missionary, diplomatic, corporate or
military parents. These frequent-flier kids don't spend enough time in
their adopted countries to become fully bicultural, but they take
pieces and add it to their home values and traditions — creating
millions of "Third Cultures." Studies have shows that kids who have
spent time abroad are more likely to go to college, to relate to one
another despite the influences of vastly differing cultures, and to
latch on to one aspect of their culture — in Obama's case African
Americanism."

11. I Am Stronger On Foreign Affairs - LIAR, except for Africa
(surprise) and the Middle East (bigger surprise), you have never been
anywhere else on the planet and thus have NO experience with our
closest allies. If Obama's travels in Africa, Asia and the Middle
East don't have any relevance to foreign affairs, what would? A visit
to Antarctica?

12. I Blame My Early Drug Use On Ethnic Confusion. The smear email
suggests that Sen. Obama had no problems growing up as a biracial kid
in the 1960s and 1970s. The anonymous people who put out these emails
must know him better than he does.

13. An Ebony Article Moved Me To Run For Office. This may be an
incorrect memory from childhood. The article may have appeared in
another magazine.

14. A Life Magazine Article Changed My Outlook On Life. The book
recites a memory from his childhood. Several advertisements depicting
the whitening creams that Obama described did appear in magazines at
that time (and still do today.) - From TPM.

15. I Won't Run On A National Ticket In '08. The quotation is false:
Obama said he had "no plans" to run, which is the standard cover used
by politicians. In fact, out of all candidates in the primaries, every
single one had stated this at one point--including Sen. Clinton and
McCain (from TPM).

16. Present Votes Are Common In Illinois. Present votes ARE common in
Illinois, as has been explained by Illinois legislators, newspapers
and researchers. Present votes are made strategically to help weaker
representatives in your party--for example Planned Parenthood ASKED
Obama to vote "present" instead of "no" on some abortion bills so that
other Democratic State Senators would have cover.

17. Oops, I Misvoted. No idea what this one is even referring to.
Here is a complete list of Obama's voting record:
http://projects.washingtonpost.com/c...mbers/o000167/

18. I Was A Professor Of Law. Sen. Obama taught constitutional law at
the University of Chicago; according to UC, he was a professor of law.
It does not get any simpler than this, even if the academic titles
seem confusing. Obama was also NOT on leave when he was teaching... he
has been on leave since his election to U.S. Senate. Here is the U of
Chicago School of Law statement on this very issue:
http://www.law.uchicago.edu/media/index.html

19. I Was A Constitutional Lawyer. Sen. Obama worked as a civil
rights lawyer in Chicago from 1993 to 2002. See Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_l...f_Barack_Obama.
Also here is the website of the law firm he worked for:
http://www.lawmbg.com/index.cfm/PageID/2674

20. Without Me, There Would Be No Ethics Bill. Sen. Obama did propose
and pass the toughest ethics legislation in Congress yet, banning many
different ways that lobbyists got legislators to do favors for them.
Find the text of the Legislative Transparency and Accountability Act
at http://obama.senate.gov/issues/ethic...bbying_reform/

21. The Ethics Bill Was Hard To Pass. Just because a bill passed in
two weeks does not mean it was not difficult to pass. The full
process actually took more than 14 days. However, if your opponent
accuses you of getting bills passed TOO fast, you obviously do not
have many vulnerabilities.

22. I Wrote A Tough Nuclear Bill. Sen. Obama's original bill was much
tougher but the Republicans required it toned down before it was
allowed to pass (this was prior to 2006 takeover) in its final
form--which still established new regulations which no-one else did.
Obama also worked with Republican Senator Dick Lugar to pass a bill to
keep nukes out of the hands of terrorists. See coverage at
http://www.democraticunderground.com...dress=388x3353

23. I Have Released My State Records. All IL Senate records are
available through Illinois State. Read What Media Matters Had to Say:
"The Associated Press reported that Sen. Barack Obama "says he can't
step up and produce his own records from his days in the Illinois
state Senate. He says he hasn't got any." But Obama did not claim that
the documents do not exist. In fact, the article quoted Obama saying:
"I don't have -- I don't maintain -- a file of eight years of work in
the state Senate because I didn't have the resources available to
maintain those kinds of records."

24. I Took On The Asbestos Altgeld Gardens Mess. Sen. Obama can
legitimately take credit for this but other people were involved also.

From:
http://www.dispatchpolitics.com/live...bamaearly.html
"Key players who worked with Obama at Altgeld Gardens said he deserves
credit for pulling together a team of hundreds of residents who
rallied for improvements at their housing projects. Obama helped
secure grants for a jobs program and pushed for asbestos removal. His
biggest accomplishment may have been to leave in place a group of
activist mothers, some of whom continue to work or live at Altgeld
Gardens."

25. My Economics Bill Will Help America. It is unclear what Senate
bill contained Sen. Obama's "111 economic policies." In any case,
Sen. Obama's economic program has many positive features, including
cutting loopholes exploited by corporations and wealthy Americans,
cutting taxes on the middle class, and shoring up Social Security by
ensuring that the rich pay as much of the rest of the us into the
system.

26. I Have Been A Bold Leader In Illinois. The "supporter" who said
Obama was not bold was actually a Republican state senator. Whether
Obama was a bold leader is a value judgement left for the reader. He
did some good work on healthcare and criminal justice in Illinois.

27. I Passed 26 Of My Own Bills In One Year. Untrue accusation, which
also contradicts claim #36.

28. No One Contacted Canada About NAFTA. The Canadian embassy
contacted Mr. Goolsbee in his civilian role, not the other way around.
The statement is imprecise, though.

From:
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2...afta-gate.html

"It's now clear that a Canadian news report that started this flap
wasn't accurate. No evidence has surfaced to show that any Obama
"staffer" telephoned the Canadian ambassador in Washington, and all
concerned deny that any such conversation took place. But it is
equally clear that Obama's senior economic adviser did visit Canada's
consulate in Chicago on Feb. 8, and that NAFTA was one of the several
topics discussed."

29. I Am Tough On Terrorism. Sen. Obama did not vote for the
resolution designating the Iranian group a terrorist organization
because he did not want to give George W. Bush an excuse to start
another war.

30. I Am Not Acting As President Yet. Not sure what it means to be
"acting as President" when you're a candidate. In any case, the FARC
accusation is false. It's a false quotation.

31. I Didn't Run Ads In Florida. Obama advertised on national cable.
Some adverts would be seen in Florida due to inability of disabling
that from happening. The decision was cleared beforehand through the
South Carolina DNC head as required by DNC rules. The Herald Tribune
wrote, "Obama's campaign launched national television advertisements
on CNN and MSNBC that are shown in Florida " and "Obama's campaign
spokesman Bill Burton disputes the pledge was broken. He said the
campaign asked CNN and MSNBC to pull Florida from the ad buy, but the
networks said they could not." From:
http://www.heraldtribune.com/article...NEWS/801230668

32. I Won Michigan. Sen. Obama never claimed to win Michigan; he
wasn't even on the ballot there. He mistakenly said "Michigan" in one
interview when discussing the states he had won, but it was a gaffe.
Clearly tired, he also called the interviewer by the wrong name.

33. I won Nevada. Sen. Obama never claimed to win Nevada, although he
did get one more delegate from the state due to the rules for
proportionally allocating delegates by voting district. From USA
Today, "Obama said in a statement released by his campaign around 6:15
p.m. ET that he came from 25 points behind and nearly beat Clinton
today because he did well across all of Nevada — 'including rural
areas where Democrats have traditionally struggled.'"
From:http://www.usatoday.com/news/politic...9-nevada_N.htm

34. I Want All Votes To Count. Sen. Obama wanted the primary votes to
count according to the rules everyone (including Senator Clinton)
agreed to in the beginning.

35. I Want Americans To Decide. It's not Sen. Obama's fault that some
states use caucuses to choose their delegates and others use
primaries. Caucuses may be less representative, but this is the way
states like Iowa and Nebraska do their voting. He has won big
victories in primaries (e.g. Virginia, Wisconsin, Louisiana) as well
as caucuses.

36. I passed 900 Bills in the State Senate. - LIAR, you passed 26,
most of which you didn't write yourself. Quotation is false. In
addition, the number 26 is the number of bills he passed in his last
year ALONE.

37. My Campaign Was Extorted By A Friend. No idea what this is about.
Accusers give no details, evidence, reference.

38. I Believe In Fairness, Not Tactics - LIAR, you used tactics to
eliminate Alice Palmer from running against you. Alice Palmer held
Obama's seat in the Illinois state senate before him, and she decided
she wanted to run for the spot again after his first term. However,
she was unable to get enough legitimate signatures to run for the
seat.

39. I Don't Take PAC Money. Obama has not accepted PAC money directly
or indirectly in this election. According to Factcheck.org: "We've
seen no evidence that Obama is not adhering to the letter of his
pledge." From:
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2...-ing_heat.html

40. I don't Have Lobbysists - LIAR, you have over 47 lobbyists, and
counting. Obama never made that statement. His statement is that he
does not employ federally registered lobbyists and his administration
will not include any. That statement is correct.

41. My Campaign Had Nothing To Do With The 1984 Ad. The author of the
1984 ad was not a campaign worker of the Obama campaign. The author of
the ad was exposed to be Phillip de Vellis of Blue State Digital. See:
http://www.bluestatedigital.com/2007...984_video.html

42. My Campaign Never Took Over MySpace. Author makes a completely
nonsensical claim that Obama's campaign "took over" MySpace which is
A) not true and B) technically not possible without criminal activity.

43. I Inspire People With My Words - LIAR, you inspire people with
other people's words. Sen. Obama made use of similar words from a
speech given by his friend and supporter, Governor Deval Patrick of
Massachussetts. He has inspired people with plenty of other words
before.

44. I Have Passed Bills In The U.S. Senate. Sen. Obama has passed
several important bills and amendments in the U.S. Senate. Information
is available on the US Senate website.

45. I Have Always Been Against Iraq. Sen. Obama has consistently
opposed the WAR in Iraq. Unlike the author of the list, Obama does
not believe that funding of the troops should be cut immediately
without being able to ensure a safe and orderly redeployment. As Obama
explained: "Once the bus is in the ditch, there are only so many ways
to get it out." (for quote see:
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/ar...fronts/?page=2)

46. I Have Always Supported Universal Health Care. "Universal
healthcare" is defined as "healthcare that is available universally."
Obama's plan makes healthcare universally available. Take a look at
his plan and judge for yourself:
http://www.barackobama.com/issues/healthcare/

47. I Only Found Out About My Investment Conflicts Via Mail. No
evidence for this accusation - it is unclear what it is referring to.

48. I Am As Patriotic As Anyone - LIAR, you won't wear a flag pin.
The author assumes that everyone has to wear a flag pin to be
patriotic. I love this country and I don't wear one -- do you? You
could at least hear him out:
http://www.barackobama.com/factcheck..._a_patriot.php

49. My Wife Didn't Mean What She Said About Pride In Country.
Michelle Obama said she was proud of her country. Her statement did
imply that she had been less proud before than she is now. I know I
was a little less proud of my country when its government started
torturing people and invading countries for no reason.

50. Wal-Mart Is A Company I Wouldn't Support. Sen. Obama does not
support Wal-Mart's policies. TreeHouse is not "affiliated with"
Wal-Mart. The latter is a customer of TreeHouse. Michelle Obama has
left TreeHouse. It should be noted that while Obama is not lying as
the author suggests, even this type of "connection" with Wal-Mart
should be considered bad in the opinion of yours truly.











On Fri, 16 May 2008 06:10:00 -0700 (PDT), RHF
wrote:

On May 16, 4:59*am, Dave wrote:
Obama's Fifty Outrageous Lies

1) Selma Got Me Born - LIAR, your parents felt safe enough to have you
in 1961 - Selma had no effect on your birth, as Selma was in 1965.

2) Father Was A Goat Herder - LIAR, he was a privileged, well educated
youth, who went on to work with the Kenyan Government.

3) Father Was A Proud Freedom Fighter - LIAR, he was part of one of
the most corrupt and violent governments Kenya has ever had.

4) My Family Has Strong Ties To African Freedom - LIAR, your cousin
Raila Odinga has created mass violence in attempting to overturn a
legitimate election in 2007, in Kenya. It is the first widespread
violence in decades.

5) My Grandmother Has Always Been A Christian - LIAR, she does her
daily Salat prayers at 5am according to her own interviews. According to
the New York Times: "I am a strong believer of the Islamic faith," Ms.
Obama, 85, said in a recent interview in Kenya.' Not to mention,
Christianity wouldn't allow her to have been one of 14 wives to 1 man.

6) My Name is African Swahili - LIAR, your name is Arabic and 'Baraka'
(from which Barack came) means 'blessed' in that language. Hussein is
also Arabic and so is Obama.

7) I Never Practiced Islam - LIAR, you practiced it daily at school,
where you were registered as a Muslim and kept that faith for 31
years,until your wife made you change, so you could run for office.

8) My School In Indonesia Was Christian - LIAR, you were registered as
Muslim there and got in trouble in Koranic Studies for making faces
(check your own book).

9) I Was Fluent In Indonesian - LIAR, not one teacher says you could
speak the language.

10) Because I Lived In Indonesia, I Have More Foreign Experience -
LIAR, you were there from the ages of 6 to 10, and couldn't even speak
the language. What did you learn, how to study the Koran and watch
cartoons?

11) I Am Stronger On Foreign Affairs - LIAR, except for Africa
(surprise) and the Middle East (bigger surprise), you have never been
anywhere else on the planet and thus have NO experience with our closest
allies. You seek to disarm America while our avowed enemy, Iran, will
not subject itself to a nuclear ban. Top Hamas politica l adviser Ahmed
Yousef said the Hamas terrorist group 'supports Obama's foreign policy
vision'.

12) I Blame My Early Drug Use On Ethnic Confusion - LIAR, you were
quite content in high school to be Barry Obama, no mention of Kenya and
no mention of struggle to identify - your classmates said you were just
fine.

13) An Ebony Article Moved Me To Run For Office - LIAR, Ebony has yet
to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn't, and never did,
exist.

14) A Life Magazine Article Changed My Outlook On Life - LIAR, Life has
yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn't, and never
did, exist.

15) I Won't Run On A National Ticket In '08 - LIAR, here you are,
despite saying, live on TV, that you would not have enough experience by
then, and you are all about having experience first.

16) Present Votes Are Common In Illinois - LIAR, they are common for
YOU, but not many others have 130 NO VOTES.

17) Oops, I Misvoted - LIAR, only when caught by church groups and
Democrats, did you beg to change your misvote.

18) I Was A Professor Of Law - LIAR, you were a senior lecturer ON
LEAVE.

19) I Was A Constitutional Lawyer - LIAR, you were a senior lecturer ON
LEAVE.

20) Without Me, There Would Be No Ethics Bill - LIAR, you didn't write
it,introduce it, change it, or create it.

21) The Ethics Bill Was Hard To Pass - LIAR, it took just 14 days from
start to finish.

22) I Wrote A Tough Nuclear Bill - LIAR, your bill was rejected by your
own party for its pandering and lack of all regulation - mainly because
of your Nuclear Donor, Exelon, from which David Axelrod came.

23) I Have Released My State Records - LIAR, as of March, 2008, state
bills you sponsored or voted for have yet to be released, exposing all
the special interests pork hidden within.

24) I Took On The Asbestos Altgeld Gardens Mess - LIAR, you were part
of a large group of people who remedied Altgeld Gardens. You failed to
mention anyone else but yourself, in your books.

25) My Economics Bill Will Help America - LIAR, your 111 economic
policies were just combined into a proposal which lost 99-0, and even
YOU voted against your own bill.

26) I Have Been A Bold Leader In Illinois - LIAR, even your own
supporters claim to have not seen BOLD action on your part.

27) I Passed 26 Of My Own Bills In One Year - LIAR, they were not YOUR
bills, but rather handed to you, after their creation by a fellow
Senator, to assist you in a future bid for higher office.

28) No One Contacted Canada About NAFTA - LIAR, the Candian Government
issued the names and a memo of the conversation your campaign had with
them.

29) I Am Tough On Terrorism - LIAR, you missed the Iran Resolution vote
on terrorism and your good friend Ali Abunimah supports the destruction
of Israel. You state you will open friendly communication with the
Leader of Iran who is attempting to develop nuclear weapons to destroy
us, but refuse to speak to FOX news. You are against provisions of the
Patriot act which would all wiretapping of the phones of suspected
terrorists in the USA.

30) I Am Not Acting As President Yet - LIAR, after the NAFTA Memo, a
dead terrorist in the FARC, in Colombia, was found with a letter stating
how you and he were working together on getting FARC recognized
officially.

31) I Didn't Run Ads In Florida - LIAR, you allowed national ads to run
8-12 times per day for two weeks - and you still lost.

32) I Won Michigan - LIAR, no you didn't.

33) I won Nevada - LIAR, no you did not.

34) I Want All Votes To Count - LIAR, you said let the delegates
decide.

35) I Want Americans To Decide - LIAR, you prefer caucuses that limit
the vote, confuse the voters, force a public vote, and only operate
during small windows of time.

36) I passed 900 Bills in the State Senate - LIAR, you passed 26, most
of which you didn't write yourself.

37) My Campaign Was Extorted By A Friend - LIAR, that friend is
threatening to sue if you do not stop saying this. Obama has stopped
saying this.

38) I Believe In Fairness, Not Tactics - LIAR, you used tactics to
eliminate Alice Palmer from running against you.

39) I Don't Take PAC Money - LIAR, you take loads of it.

40) I don't Have Lobbysists - LIAR, you have over 47 lobbyists, and
counting.

41) My Campaign Had Nothing To Do With The 1984 Ad - LIAR, your own
campaign worker made the ad on his Apple in one afternoon.

42) My Campaign Never Took Over MySpace - LIAR, Tom, who started
MySpace issued a warning about this advertising to MySpace clients.

43) I Inspire People With My Words - LIAR, you inspire people with
other people's words.

44) I Have Passed Bills In The U.S. Senate - LIAR, you have passed A
BILL in the U.S. Senate - for Africa, which shows YOUR priorities.

45) I Have Always Been Against Iraq - LIAR, you weren't in office to
vote against it AND you have voted to fund it every single time, unlike
Kucinich, who seems to be out gutting you Obama. You also seem to be
stepping back from your departure date - AGAIN.

46) I Have Always Supported Universal Health Care - LIAR, your plan
leaves us all to pay the 15,000,000 who don't have to buy it.

47) I Only Found Out About My Investment Conflicts Via Mail - LIAR,
both companies you site as having sent you letters about this conflict
have no record of any such letter ever being created or sent.

48) I Am As Patriotic As Anyone - LIAR, you won't wear a flag pin and
you don't put your hand over your heart during the Anthem. There is a
Cuban Flag with Che Guevara Displayed at Barack Obama Campaign Office
which you allow to be displayed. You voted against making english the
official language of the United States. You voted to give illegal aliens
social security benefits, which would bankrupt the social security
system for Americans legally paying into it.

49) My Wife Didn't Mean What She Said About Pride In Country - LIAR,
your wife's words follow lock-step in the vain of Rev. Wright and Louis
Farrahkan, in relation to their contempt and hatred of America.

50) Wal-Mart Is A Company I Wouldn't Support - LIAR, your wife has
received nearly a quarter of a million dollars through Treehouse, which
is connected to Wal-Mart.


Subject-Line should actually Read :
(OT) : 50 Outrageous Lies -about- Democrat Party
US Presidential Candidate Barack Hussein Obama Jr.

FWIW - BHO had two smart parents.

Background and Life Story of Barack Hussein Obama Sr.
who was the Father of Barack Hussein Obama Jr. brief
but Interesting Reading - Factual and Truthful.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_Sr.
Master of Arts (AM) Degree from Harvard
Died at Age 46.

Background and Life Story of Stanley Ann Dunham Soetoro
who was the Mother of Barack Hussein Obama Jr. again
brief but Interesting Reading - Factual and Truthful.
Ph.D. from the University of Hawaii
Died at Age 52.

NOTE - This is the first time I have read BHO talking
positively about his White Mother and her Parents
from Kansas who raised him in Hawaii.

READ - The Story of Barack Obama's Mother
-by- Amanda Riply -source- Time Magazine
http://www.time.com/time/nation/arti...729524,00.html

Background and Life Story of Barack Hussein Obama Jr.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama
B.A. from Columbia
J.D. from Harvard
Illinois State Senator
Native Born US Citizen Age 46

You Gotto Like the Guy -but- Will You Vote For Him ?

the truth will set you free - be free ~ RHF
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