m II wrote:

Radioguy wrote:

When prices are too good to be true they usually are.

I agree completely. I do wonder how the things got into the stores.

I was just wondering the same thing. Do the purchasing folks check things out?
Or, are the fakes pretty good and it takes some tech folks to go over every damn
item?

Kickbacks to the purchasing folks?

On May 30, 10:32*am, m II wrote:
Radioguy wrote:
When prices are too good to be true they usually are.

I agree completely. I do wonder how the things got into the stores.
Somehow, I don't think the counterfeiters were selling them out of the
trunks of their cars.

The greed may well have been at a much higher level, such as store
purchasing management. It's hard to move so many pieces of merchandise
without a proper sales venue.

mike

Look at the stores selling most of the knockoff stuff. It isn't Home
Depot or your local hardware store selling faked Square D circuit
breakers. It's some no-name website. Same thing with the bad
toothpaste.

On May 29, 6:01*pm, Tex wrote:
On May 29, 9:18 am, m II wrote:

Now, I wonder where THESE came from.

*Statement of Professor Daniel C.K. Chow

COUNTERFEITING IN CHINA
I. Introduction

In terms of size, scope, and magnitude, counterfeiting in China is
considered by many to the most serious counterfeiting problem in world
history. (As used here, counterfeiting refers to the unauthorized use
of trademarks owned by another on identical or similar goods.) A
recent study by the PRC State Council Research and Development Center
reported that in 2001 the PRC economy was flooded with between $19-$24
billion worth of counterfeit goods. Brand owners in China estimate
that 15 to 20% of all well-known brands in China are counterfeit and
estimate their losses to be in the tens of billions of dollars.
Counterfeiting is estimated to now account for approximately 8% of
China’s gross domestic product.

China is also a leading exporter of counterfeit products to other
countries in Asia, Europe, and the United States. In 2003, China
accounted for 66% or over $62 million of the $94 million of all
counterfeit and infringing goods seized by the US Customs Service at
ports of entry into the United States. Mid-year figures in 2004
indicate that seizures are sharply higher with $64 million seized in
the first half of 2004 alone. An ominous development is that beginning
in 2004, exports of counterfeits from China to the United States and
other parts of the world may begin to increase significantly for the
foreseeable future.

statement continued at
http://www.cecc.gov/pages/roundtables/051605/Chow.php

Some might call it China-Feit© Products -aka- China-Crap©

Recently had an 'issue with one of those Magic Bullet Blender
that we bought about two years ago on Amazon.Com.

We call the 800# and once the Manufacture got the Model
Number and some other 'info' off the Power-Head Motor :
We were told that it was a Counterfeit Item most likely
'made-in-china' that was mainly made of a poorer quality
and thinner plastic.
-fwiw- One of the Plastic Top-Containers had broken pieces
of plastic after several uses.

China needs to get it's act together and stop the China-Crap©
-aka- China-Feit© Products

Made-in-China is becoming more than a Joke
-meaning- Made-in-China : Danger It Kills !

On May 30, 11:45*am, RHF wrote:
On May 29, 6:01*pm, Tex wrote:





On May 29, 9:18 am, m II wrote:

Now, I wonder where THESE came from.

*Statement of Professor Daniel C.K. Chow

COUNTERFEITING IN CHINA
I. Introduction

In terms of size, scope, and magnitude, counterfeiting in China is
considered by many to the most serious counterfeiting problem in world
history. (As used here, counterfeiting refers to the unauthorized use
of trademarks owned by another on identical or similar goods.) A
recent study by the PRC State Council Research and Development Center
reported that in 2001 the PRC economy was flooded with between $19-$24
billion worth of counterfeit goods. Brand owners in China estimate
that 15 to 20% of all well-known brands in China are counterfeit and
estimate their losses to be in the tens of billions of dollars.
Counterfeiting is estimated to now account for approximately 8% of
China’s gross domestic product.

China is also a leading exporter of counterfeit products to other
countries in Asia, Europe, and the United States. In 2003, China
accounted for 66% or over $62 million of the $94 million of all
counterfeit and infringing goods seized by the US Customs Service at
ports of entry into the United States. Mid-year figures in 2004
indicate that seizures are sharply higher with $64 million seized in
the first half of 2004 alone. An ominous development is that beginning
in 2004, exports of counterfeits from China to the United States and
other parts of the world may begin to increase significantly for the
foreseeable future.

statement continued at
http://www.cecc.gov/pages/roundtables/051605/Chow.php

Some might call it China-Feit© Products -aka- China-Crap©

Recently had an 'issue with one of those Magic Bullet Blender
that we bought about two years ago on Amazon.Com.

We call the 800# and once the Manufacture got the Model
Number and some other 'info' off the Power-Head Motor :
We were told that it was a Counterfeit Item most likely
'made-in-china' that was mainly made of a poorer quality
and thinner plastic.
-fwiw- One of the Plastic Top-Containers had broken pieces
of plastic after several uses.

China needs to get it's act together and stop the China-Crap©
-aka- China-Feit© Products

Made-in-China is becoming more than a Joke
-meaning- *Made-in-China : Danger It Kills !
*.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Isn't that one of those kit blenders - 70 pieces of stuff for
$50.00 ? Next time just buy a good brand name blender.

On May 30, 7:32*am, m II wrote:
Radioguy wrote:
When prices are too good to be true they usually are.

I agree completely. I do wonder how the things got into the stores.
Somehow, I don't think the counterfeiters were selling them out of the
trunks of their cars.

The greed may well have been at a much higher level, such as store
purchasing management. It's hard to move so many pieces of merchandise
without a proper sales venue.

mike

Mike - D'Oh !

The same people who have the money to produce so-called
China-Feit© Products -aka- China-Crap©

Also have the Money to 'produce' Counterfeit Documents
to 'pass-them-off' as the Real Thing.

The Aircraft Industry has an on-going problem with very well
Documented Counterfeit Aircraft Parts; much of which sells
for only 10%~15% below the OEM Parts. Or Scrap Parts
that are Cleaned-Up and Sold as New or Re-Manufactured.

Look at the Brand Name Stuff like CDs, DVDs and Clothing
all with their special Tags and Lazer Decals that are often
more Bogas Goods.

The Phony Document Business is a Big Business itself.

Many of the China-Feit© Products -aka- China-Crap©
are made in the same factorys as the real deal but are
knock-offs; production-over-runs; or rejected products;
that are distributed and sold through third parties.

Made-in-China is becoming more than a Joke
-meaning- Made-in-China : Danger It Kills !

~ RHF

On May 30, 7:35*am, dxAce wrote:
m II wrote:
Radioguy wrote:

When prices are too good to be true they usually are.

I agree completely. I do wonder how the things got into the stores.

I was just wondering the same thing. Do the purchasing folks check things out?
Or, are the fakes pretty good and it takes some tech folks to go over every damn
item?

Kickbacks to the purchasing folks?

Provide a few legal samples and the rest is Counterfeit
China-Feit© Products -aka- China-Crap©

Look at the Brand Name Stuff like CDs, DVDs and Clothing
all with their special Tags and Lazer Decals that are often
more Bogas Goods.

The Phony Document Business is a Big Business itself.

Many of the China-Feit© Products -aka- China-Crap©
are made in the same factorys as the real deal but are
knock-offs; production-over-runs; or rejected products;
that are distributed and sold through third parties.

Made-in-China is becoming more than a Joke
-meaning- Made-in-China : Danger It Kills !

~ RHF

There is NO difference between democrats and republicans anymore.Not one
Pennys worth of difference.
cuhulin

On May 30, 1:47*am, "Brenda Ann" wrote:
wrote:
I remember when Nixon (a democrap) was standing on the great wall of
China, I remember seeing that it on tv news wayyyy back when.Nixon
opened up China to America.
cuhulin

- Republican.

Nixon was a Moderate Progressive Republican who
supported Business with Conservative Fiscal Policy
RMN favored Balanced Budgets and Moderate Tax
Levels.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodore_Roosevelt
* Nixonian
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nixonian
* Rockefeller Republicans
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockefeller_Republican
* Today Nixon would most likely be considered a
"Republican In Name Only" -aka- RINO
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_In_Name_Only
- Won in 1968 against Hubert H. Humphrey

Anti-LBJ Vote.
+ The George Wallace Factor and having a 3RD Party
to splite-the-vote American Independent Party
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_...ection%2C_1968

- Won in 1972 against George McGovern

anti-Anti-War Vote and the fact that McGovern became known
as the candidate of : Amnesty, Aortion and Aid.
* Ted Kennedy and Chappaquiddick Incident
* George Wallace Shot {Assassination} and Paralyzed
* Ed Muskie and the Canuck Letter
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_...ection%2C_1972

- Retired in shame in August 1974 during impeachment
- proceedings due to the Watergate breakin scandal.

BAD - D'Oh ! Retired ? - rotfl ~ RHF

Telamon wrote:

In article ,
dxAce wrote:

m II wrote:

Radioguy wrote:

When prices are too good to be true they usually are.

I agree completely. I do wonder how the things got into the stores.

I was just wondering the same thing. Do the purchasing folks check
things out? Or, are the fakes pretty good and it takes some tech
folks to go over every damn item?

Kickbacks to the purchasing folks?

In my business suppliers are audited. People in my company actually go
the supplier and audit them. The purchasing people can then only buy
from companies on the approved buyer list. The suppliers that buy raw
materials from other suppliers are required to do the same. Through
these procedures an audit trail from where the metal ore is dug out of
the ground or plastic is manufactured to the finished product is
created. The materials that go into our product are audited, inspected
and tested as necessary to assure conformance to specifications.

If something managed to get through all the auditing, inspecting, and
testing the lots of materials are source documented with dates and
serial numbers so there is traceability and the product in the field can
be recalled and scraped or reworked.

My breaker/fuse box was manufactured by Colt's Patent Fire Arms Mfg. Co,
Hartford Conn!

On May 30, 9:05*am, Radioguy wrote:
On May 30, 11:45*am, RHF wrote:





On May 29, 6:01*pm, Tex wrote:

On May 29, 9:18 am, m II wrote:

Now, I wonder where THESE came from.

*Statement of Professor Daniel C.K. Chow

COUNTERFEITING IN CHINA
I. Introduction

In terms of size, scope, and magnitude, counterfeiting in China is
considered by many to the most serious counterfeiting problem in world
history. (As used here, counterfeiting refers to the unauthorized use
of trademarks owned by another on identical or similar goods.) A
recent study by the PRC State Council Research and Development Center
reported that in 2001 the PRC economy was flooded with between $19-$24
billion worth of counterfeit goods. Brand owners in China estimate
that 15 to 20% of all well-known brands in China are counterfeit and
estimate their losses to be in the tens of billions of dollars.
Counterfeiting is estimated to now account for approximately 8% of
China’s gross domestic product.

China is also a leading exporter of counterfeit products to other
countries in Asia, Europe, and the United States. In 2003, China
accounted for 66% or over $62 million of the $94 million of all
counterfeit and infringing goods seized by the US Customs Service at
ports of entry into the United States. Mid-year figures in 2004
indicate that seizures are sharply higher with $64 million seized in
the first half of 2004 alone. An ominous development is that beginning
in 2004, exports of counterfeits from China to the United States and
other parts of the world may begin to increase significantly for the
foreseeable future.

statement continued at
http://www.cecc.gov/pages/roundtables/051605/Chow.php

Some might call it China-Feit© Products -aka- China-Crap©

Recently had an 'issue with one of those Magic Bullet Blender
that we bought about two years ago on Amazon.Com.

We call the 800# and once the Manufacture got the Model
Number and some other 'info' off the Power-Head Motor :
We were told that it was a Counterfeit Item most likely
'made-in-china' that was mainly made of a poorer quality
and thinner plastic.
-fwiw- One of the Plastic Top-Containers had broken pieces
of plastic after several uses.

China needs to get it's act together and stop the China-Crap©
-aka- China-Feit© Products

Made-in-China is becoming more than a Joke
-meaning- *Made-in-China : Danger It Kills !
*.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Isn't that one of those kit blenders - 70 pieces of stuff for
$50.00 ? *Next time just buy a good brand name blender.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

but... it's Magic ! ;-}