Billy Burpelson wrote:

Oh, don't forget that the profit from your items above flow right to
Germany, Korea and Japan, not here. They only built a few plants here
because they had to -- for political reasons, a sop* to the gullible.




Hyundai built the largest, state-of-the-art automotive plant in the
world...in Tennessee. You don't do that if you're not serious about
staying here. You don't do something on that scale as a mere sop to the
gullible....

Daimler built not one, but TWO plants here.

As for profits....well, take the case of the German AKG. It's owned
by Harman International. That's Dr. Sydney Harman. You know, of
Harman-Kardon. They also own Soundcraft, a british console manufacturer.
Studer, the Swiss audio manufacturer.

We've all heard of Becker? You know, like the in-dash AM/FM/Shortwave
Mexico receiver? That Becker....a Harman company.

As are more than a dozen US companies, including JBL, Crown, dbx, and
Lexicon.

All the profits, no matter where the products are made, are managed
through a US company, Harman international.

D Peter Maus wrote:

Billy Burpelson wrote:

Oh, don't forget that the profit from your items above flow right to
Germany, Korea and Japan, not here. They only built a few plants here
because they had to -- for political reasons, a sop* to the gullible.




Hyundai built the largest, state-of-the-art automotive plant in the
world...in Tennessee. You don't do that if you're not serious about
staying here. You don't do something on that scale as a mere sop to the
gullible....

Daimler built not one, but TWO plants here.

As for profits....well, take the case of the German AKG. It's owned by
Harman International. That's Dr. Sydney Harman. You know, of
Harman-Kardon. They also own Soundcraft, a british console manufacturer.
Studer, the Swiss audio manufacturer.

We've all heard of Becker? You know, like the in-dash AM/FM/Shortwave
Mexico receiver? That Becker....a Harman company.

As are more than a dozen US companies, including JBL, Crown, dbx, and
Lexicon.

All the profits, no matter where the products are made, are managed
through a US company, Harman international.




Don't forget the Whammy pedal.

On Jun 1, 7:05*am, D Peter Maus wrote:
Billy Burpelson wrote:

RJ wrote:
And....

"MADE IN USA"

is becoming a collectors item.

D Peter Maus wrote:

Yeah...Ask BMW, Daimler-Benz, Hyundai, Honda, Toyota, Nissan, Mazda,
*and Mitsubishi.

Not quite right, DP. The products you mention above are mostly ASSEMBLED
in America. Typically, the higher tech, higher 'cost of assembly' items
(engines, trannies) are made in their home country.

Oh, don't forget that the profit from your items above flow right to
Germany, Korea and Japan, not here. They only built a few plants here
because they had to -- for political reasons, a sop* to the gullible.

* From the Merriam-Webster dictionary:

sop: a conciliatory or propitiatory bribe, gift, or gesture

* *So, the billions spent by Hyundai, alone, to build in
Tennessee...that's just a bribe. The millions in payroll...that's just a
bribe?

* *Nonsense.

* *The Asian manufacturers currently enjoy a moratorium on taxes, and
the wages and benefits parity that Union contracts seek, so building in
this country is just good, cost effective business.

* *They build here because it's less costly to build here.

* *In the case of the Germans, because they can actually build for far
less than they can in their own country. And without as many rules and
restrictions on employment. Again, less cost. Consistent quality.

* *As for the parts source...imported parts for products built on
American soil is nothing new. Ford, GM, Chrysler have been importing
components for decades. And they're not alone. There are more Japanese
parts on a Harley-Davidson than there are on a GoldWing. There are
models of Honda automobiles that have never been built anywhere but
Ohio, and exported back to Japan for sale.

* *And don't be so quick to assume that all components come from
oversees. Hyundai does a huge amount of the machine work for it's
products in the US. So does Honda. Even Toyota outsources much of it's
component stock from the US.

* *Isuzu even has one of it's vehicles built by GM.

* *But if you're considering parts source....GT microphones are
assembled at a GT built and owned plant in China. The capsules and
components are however, hand made by GT right here in the US.

* *But the topic was "Made in the USA." And these companies DO build in
the USA.

* *"Made In The USA" is far from extinction.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

DPM,

Many of those who cry for Made-in-the-USA and Jobs
for Americans are either 'silent' about or just plain Anti :
* Off-Shore Drilling in the USA
* Shale Oil Production in the USA
* New Cleaner American Oil Refineries
* All American 100% Natural Coal Powered
Clean Electrical Power Plants
RESULT - All of which would create Good Paying Blue
Collar Jobs and Businesses within the USA and They
Keep Our American Dollars circulating within the US
Economy creating even More Jobs for Americans.

Made-in-the-USA - Starts with American Energy Independence

yes - i said that ~ RHF

On Jun 1, 7:08*am, Dave wrote:
Billy Burpelson wrote:

Oh, don't forget that the profit from your items above flow right to
Germany, Korea and Japan, not here. They only built a few plants here
because they had to -- for political reasons, a sop* to the gullible.

- Actually, the domestic production is a result of import quotas, no?

NO.

On Jun 1, 7:33*am, Dave wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote:

*Billy Burpelson wrote:

Oh, don't forget that the profit from your items above flow right to
Germany, Korea and Japan, not here. They only built a few plants here
because they had to -- for political reasons, a sop* to the gullible.

* Hyundai built the largest, state-of-the-art automotive plant in the
world...in Tennessee. You don't do that if you're not serious about
staying here. You don't do something on that scale as a mere sop to the
gullible....

* Daimler built not one, but TWO plants here.

* As for profits....well, take the case of the German AKG. It's owned by
Harman International. That's Dr. Sydney Harman. You know, of
Harman-Kardon. They also own Soundcraft, a british console manufacturer.
*Studer, the Swiss audio manufacturer.

* We've all heard of Becker? You know, like the in-dash AM/FM/Shortwave
Mexico receiver? That Becker....a Harman company.

* As are more than a dozen US companies, including JBL, Crown, dbx, and
Lexicon.

* All the profits, no matter where the products are made, are managed
through a US company, Harman international.

- Don't forget the Whammy pedal.

Digitech Whammy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whammy_pedal

Digital Whammy,,, SLAP HILLARY! DOT COM

There is a Nissan factory at the I-55 Gluckstadt (there is a kraut name
for ya, ratchere in Mee see see pee pee eye) exit, about 20 sompin miles
North of doggy's couch.Toyota is building a new factory in or near Elvis
the Pelvis old home town, Tupelo. www.southerncorridor.com

Bowling Green, Sewing Machine!
Sidney Portier and Tony Curtis in the old The Dieant Ones old movie.
cuhulin

In article , RJ wrote:
And....

"MADE IN USA"

is becoming a collectors item.

That is, if you can find one that isn't counterfeit.

ooops, I had meant to type, www.southernautocorridor.com I think.
(South is always Best)

PACCAR wants their name on diesel engines for Kenworth and Peterbilt and
DAF 18 wheeler trucks, so PACCAR is building a new PACCAR diesel engine
factory right now in Columbus,Mississippi, the Home of Memorial Day.

I want me one of those little Air Cars that runs on compressed
airable.Communist Fascist Nazi U.S.fed govt will not allow them to be
sold in America though.
cuhulin
................................................
Bowling Greennn,,, Sewing Machine!
................................................

RJ wrote:

"MADE IN USA" is becoming a collectors item.

D Peter Maus wrote:

Yeah...Ask BMW, Daimler-Benz, Hyundai, Honda, Toyota, Nissan, Mazda,
and Mitsubishi.

Billy Burpelson wrote:

Not quite right, DP. The products you mention above are mostly
ASSEMBLED in America. Typically, the higher tech, higher 'cost of
assembly' items (engines, trannies) are made in their home country.

Oh, don't forget that the profit from your items above flow right to
Germany, Korea and Japan, not here. They only built a few plants here
because they had to -- for political reasons, a sop* to the gullible.

* From the Merriam-Webster dictionary:

sop: a conciliatory or propitiatory bribe, gift, or gesture

D Peter Maus wrote:

So, the billions spent by Hyundai, alone, to build in
Tennessee...that's just a bribe. The millions in payroll...that's just a
bribe?

I would say more "gesture" -- at least that's how the first, early
plants started out, as gestures. And Hyundai is a special example --
trying to kick the Japanese butts and get a toe hold here.

The Asian manufacturers currently enjoy a moratorium on taxes, and the
wages and benefits parity that Union contracts seek, so building in this
country is just good, cost effective business.

They build here because it's less costly to build here.

HUH????

Do the *thousands* of businesses that have moved their manufacturing to
India/Haiti/Mexico/China do so because it's -less- costly here in the
USA? I don't think so. USA wages are ~ $15-$25/hour, usually with
benefits and environmental laws, while China/India are ~ $0.50- $1/hour
with -no- benefits and virtually no environmental laws...and you say
it's -less costly- to manufacture in the USA? Pardon me for not
believing that.

But the topic was "Made in the USA." And these companies DO build in
the USA.

But with the profits NOT going to the USA.

"Made In The USA" is far from extinction.

To shift away from the automotive world for a moment, consider Wal-Mart,
a 'general purpose' retailer, selling all kinds of merchandise,
everything from A to Z, a -broad- spectrum of consumer products. Even 2
or 3 years ago, it was widely acknowledged that 85 (that's
EIGHTY-FIVE!) percent of the merchandise on their shelves was "Made in
China", not the USA. Quite odd if it's less costly to build here, don't
you think?

While you're at it, please explain away the THOUSANDS of companies that
have moved their manufacturing overseas and please explain it to the
*MILLIONS* of American workers that have been "down-sized"
and "right-sized" out of their well-paying American jobs... and please
try to be understanding if they don't believe you.

"Made In The USA" may not be quite extinct, but it's fading very, very fast.

"Outsourcing is GOOD for this country" -- George W. Bush, addressing
the nation.

Billy Burpelson wrote:




While you're at it, please explain away the THOUSANDS of companies that
have moved their manufacturing overseas and please explain it to the
*MILLIONS* of American workers that have been "down-sized"
and "right-sized" out of their well-paying American jobs... and please
try to be understanding if they don't believe you.


Actually, I did explain that. Something you, and they, conveniently
ignore.


Address that, and we may have a discussion.


Have a good day, Billy.