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RHF June 6th 08 01:56 PM

D'Oh ! - The Future of Windows XP -according-to- Microsoft Corp.
 
On Jun 5, 7:32*pm, Adam Albright wrote:
On Thu, 5 Jun 2008 19:45:24 -0400, "Billy Smith"





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"Dave" wrote in message
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Frank wrote:
measekite wrote:


Frank wrote:


Billy Smith wrote:


"Adam Albright" wrote in message
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On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 17:48:53 -0700, Frank wrote:


wrote:


On Jun 2, 11:42 am, RHF wrote:


D'Oh ! - The Future of Windows XP -according-to- Microsoft
Corp.http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pro...p/future..mspx


Windows XP will be Gone in June 2008 ? - NOT !


MS Says - Windows XP Sales will Stop on 30 June 2008.


Note - Some Existing 'new' Old-Stock of Windows XP presently
in Retailers Inventory may be available until 2009 or longer.


MS Says - Technical Support [Service Pack Downloads] for
Window XP will be provided by Microsoft Corp until 2014.


OK - What is the Problem ?


Yeah -if- You buy a New Computer you will likely get stuck
with have Micorsoft's VISTA pre-installed -but- your Old PC
that is running Windows XP will have support for Five (5)
more years.


Hopefully within those Five (5) Years Microsoft will have
something better than VISTA as their latest super-dupper
OS : Plus you will have a lot of new Hardware to Want-to-Buy.


-ps- Five (5) Years is almost Two (2) Life Cycles in the ever
changing Softwave-and-Hardware Turn-Over-and-Upgrade
PC Users Dilemma.


and . . . that's the way i see it ~ RHF
.


On May 30, 5:07 am, David wrote:


On May 30, 6:20 am, "xfile" wrote:


My two cents,


I don't see the needs for customers to sign any petitions. *It's
the product
provider's job to find out if their product is well accepted by
the market
or not. *And it's their product so they have every right for
making the
decision. *If they think Vista is so good, just terminate XP and
make
Windows 7 even more like Vista. *Of course, it's also them who
have to take
the consequences of that decision. *Life finds a way, so no need
to beg
anyone for keeping a product or not.


"Clear Windows" wrote in message


...


http://www.neowin.net/news/main/08/0...ng-official-pe...


If you can remember back a few weeks, Steve Ballmer went on
record saying
that Microsoft would consider extending the life of Windows XP
if enough
people asked for it. Afterall, many people don't want to
upgrade to
Windows Vista because they are perfectly content with XP. The
problem was
there was no way to ask for it. Sure, you could sign one of the
many
online petitions, but Microsoft considers those "non-official
complaints"
and the rest of us simply consider them silly.


Well, word has been passed down to the tech support teams (and
then on to
Neowin) that they are to begin logging any calls that come in
for the sole
purpose of requesting an extension to the retail life of
Windows XP. The
calls will be logged and, if enough complaints are filed,
Microsoft will
consider giving XP some more time (no pinky promises, though).


If you wish to file an official petition yourself, you can
simply call the
Windows XP Home Edition support numbers for your country and
let the
operator know that you wish to file an official complaint.
Because we're
so nice and want to save you the trouble, here are the numbers
for a
majority of Neowin's visitors:


United States: (866) 234-6020
United Kingdom: 0870 60 10 100
Canada: (800) 936-8479


If your country isn't listed, you can visit the Microsoft
Support Site,
choose your country, choose Windows XP Home Edition as your
product and
then go to 'Contacts' for the appropriate support number.


I disagree with their methodology but will make the call.


Windows XP is fast, RELIABLE, and meets the needs of the vast
majority
of PC users


United States: (866) 234-6020
United Kingdom: 0870 60 10 100
Canada: (800) 936-8479


Save Windows XP- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


- But the problem is that whatever Microsoft comes up with to
replace
Vista will be the same resource Hog Vista is now;
- with no substantial gain.


And you know this because...?


- Imagine how nice it would be to have a REALLY fast, reliable PC
that
ran on Some Future Iteration of hardware


I've got multiple installs of that OS right now...it's called Vista!


- but had Reliable, Familiar *Windows XP as its OS


Why? Once you become familiar with Vista, then XP seems old, slow
and
clunky...just W2K did after we became familiar with XP.


- tapping into whatever faster Internet / *server farm is standard
down teh road.


????????????????????????


Worth Saving Windows XP, in the opinion of over 200,000


Yeah right. You don't think for one second that 200,000 individuals
responded do you?
If so, lets talk about some very fine bridges I happens to know of
that
are for sale...LOL!
Also blogs are now becoming click-and-I-get-cash cows. Any
resemblance
to a real e-rag news outlet is delusional at best.
Frank


Frank knows all about delusional. It's his life.


Sure you do, Madeline


Most people fine it rather strange that the real malcontents in this ng
are the ones who can't get their installs of vista to run properly.
They blame MS and call those of us who have successfully, installed,
configure and run Vista properly, 'fanboys" as if that somehow properly
vilifies us makes their obvious computer incompetence some kind of an
aberration.
adam albright is the leader of that demented, delusional pact of idiot
moron losers.
And I am daily amazed that this piece of **** can't actually still type
on a keyboard with his fat, bald head shoved all the way up his fat
stupid ass!
Simply amazing!
Frank


We all know you are experienced at installing updates. *It seems that
updates and service packs are a way of life with Windows.


Oh? As compared to the 180+ updates for urbuttoo? Or how about upgrading
to a whole new os every six months? Isn't that the "way of life' with
linux/urbuttoo, huh?
Did you come to this Vista ng to try and spread your lies like you have
been doing in the printer ng now for yrs?
Guess what asshole, I've got your number and you're #1 on my **** list!
Frank


The Ubuntu LTS versions are every other year. *The intermediate versions
are for new users to play with 'til the next LTS version. *There has never
been a "whole new os" as far as I can tell, just constant refinements
(usually hardware support as more and more vendors hop on-board) that are
almost always 100% backwards compatible.


- - - Ubuntu 8.04 is an LTS and like butter.

- - Ubuntu sounds like a case of an African disease

- We can add racist to your list of flaws.

Adam A. - You can add Calling People "Racist" to
Your List of Public Discourse Strengths. - NOT !
http://www.firstmonday.dk/issues/issue3_3/agre/

-per- Wikipedia : UBUNTU
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_%28philosophy%29
"Ubuntu, pronounced [ùbúntú], is an Ethic or Humanist
Philosophy focusing on People's Allegiances and Relations
with each 'other'. The Word has its Origin in the Bantu
Languages of Southern Africa. Ubuntu is seen as a
Traditional African Concept."
--- Lets see Wikipedia memtioned Africa and African
so I guess they are Racist Too for simply stating the
Facts and what is clearly 'obvious'.

More specifically "Ubuntu" [ZULU] -wrt- the Linux OS
relates to an Up-to-Date yet Stable Linux Distribution
for the Average User and having a Strong Focus on
Usability and Ease of Installation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu
-also see- Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Edubuntu, & Ubuntu JeOS.
--- http://en.wikipedia.org/

Free and Open Source Software : F/OSS, FOSS, or FLOSS
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FLOSS

Free Software Foundation's Four Freedoms.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Software_Foundation

don't 'vista' me - my eXP is working a-ok ~ RHF

RHF June 6th 08 02:27 PM

D'Oh ! - The Future of Windows XP -according-to- Microsoft Corp.
 
On Jun 6, 6:16*am, dave wrote:
Billy Smith wrote:
Eee PC?
Everex WalMart special with a Via C7D motherboard and a switching
power supply. *It's a desktop. *I also have an Eee 4G Surf
subnotebook. *Less is more.


Only with the Third World Wal Mart mindset. Must be another retarded
liberal


Retarded left libertarian (go Barr!) actually, thank-you very much.

You have done nothing to dissuade me from thinking Windows users are
generally more hostile than people who use free OS solutions.

I actually got my Everex from New Egg, but it is famous for being the
$199 WalMart special.


EVEREX VA1500V NoteBook VIA C7-M 1.50GHz 15.4" Wide XGA+ 512MB Memory
DDR2 667 60GB HDD 5400rpm DVD/CD-RW Combo VIA Chrome 9 HC IGP -
Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16834280009

dave June 6th 08 02:30 PM

Microsoft Taking Official Petitions to Keep XP Alive
 
wrote:
On Jun 4, 8:48 am, Dave wrote:
Canuck57 wrote:
"Dave" wrote in message
...
RHF wrote:
-ps- Five (5) Years is almost Two (2) Life Cycles in the ever
changing Softwave-and-Hardware Turn-Over-and-Upgrade
PC Users Dilemma.
This is stupid. There is no reason to overhaul your PC every 30 months.
Think of the toxic waste. My computer uses 12 Watts.
Eee PC?

Everex WalMart special with a Via C7D motherboard and a switching power
supply. It's a desktop. I also have an Eee 4G Surf subnotebook. Less
is more.


Everex $200 Linux gPC Hits Wal-Mart, Bowls Rednecks Over


http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/linux/eve...ver-317284.php

Two Hundred Bucks!

This one Bowls Me over





You can buy the motherboard/w CPU for well under a $100 at PC Club.

Billy Smith June 6th 08 10:17 PM

D'Oh ! - The Future of Windows XP -according-to- Microsoft Corp.
 

"RHF" wrote in message
...
On Jun 6, 6:16 am, dave wrote:
Billy Smith wrote:
Eee PC?
Everex WalMart special with a Via C7D motherboard and a switching
power supply. It's a desktop. I also have an Eee 4G Surf
subnotebook. Less is more.


Only with the Third World Wal Mart mindset. Must be another retarded
liberal


Retarded left libertarian (go Barr!) actually, thank-you very much.

You have done nothing to dissuade me from thinking Windows users are
generally more hostile than people who use free OS solutions.

I actually got my Everex from New Egg, but it is famous for being the
$199 WalMart special.


EVEREX VA1500V NoteBook VIA C7-M 1.50GHz 15.4" Wide XGA+ 512MB Memory
DDR2 667 60GB HDD 5400rpm DVD/CD-RW Combo VIA Chrome 9 HC IGP -
Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16834280009

Not so glowing reports on Linux and its video drivers. No customer support,
poor RAM capacity, poor hard drive capacity akin to a 5 year old machine.
Not impressive at all


Billy Smith June 6th 08 10:19 PM

D'Oh ! - The Future of Windows XP -according-to- Microsoft Corp.
 

"dave" wrote in message
...
Billy Smith wrote:

"Dave" wrote in message
...
RHF wrote:


-ps- Five (5) Years is almost Two (2) Life Cycles in the ever
changing Softwave-and-Hardware Turn-Over-and-Upgrade
PC Users Dilemma.

This is stupid. There is no reason to overhaul your PC every 30 months.
Think of the toxic waste. My computer uses 12 Watts.


And your computer still doesn't work


I have 4 computers. The XP machine is down right now, and I'm in no hurry
to fix it.


Why? Is it too hard for you to fix anything or are you such a technological
neanderthal that it would be impossible to fix for yourself. Which you
probably also blame on Microsoft.


Billy Smith June 6th 08 10:21 PM

D'Oh ! - The Future of Windows XP -according-to- Microsoft Corp.
 

"Adam Albright" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 5 Jun 2008 19:45:24 -0400, "Billy Smith"
wrote:


"Dave" wrote in message
news:qMWdnY89E7Es2tjVnZ2dnUVZ_tTinZ2d@earthlink. com...
Frank wrote:
measekite wrote:



Frank wrote:

Billy Smith wrote:


"Adam Albright" wrote in message
...

On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 17:48:53 -0700, Frank wrote:

wrote:

On Jun 2, 11:42 am, RHF wrote:

D'Oh ! - The Future of Windows XP -according-to- Microsoft
Corp.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pro...xp/future.mspx

Windows XP will be Gone in June 2008 ? - NOT !

MS Says - Windows XP Sales will Stop on 30 June 2008.

Note - Some Existing 'new' Old-Stock of Windows XP presently
in Retailers Inventory may be available until 2009 or longer.

MS Says - Technical Support [Service Pack Downloads] for
Window XP will be provided by Microsoft Corp until 2014.

OK - What is the Problem ?

Yeah -if- You buy a New Computer you will likely get stuck
with have Micorsoft's VISTA pre-installed -but- your Old PC
that is running Windows XP will have support for Five (5)
more years.

Hopefully within those Five (5) Years Microsoft will have
something better than VISTA as their latest super-dupper
OS : Plus you will have a lot of new Hardware to Want-to-Buy.

-ps- Five (5) Years is almost Two (2) Life Cycles in the ever
changing Softwave-and-Hardware Turn-Over-and-Upgrade
PC Users Dilemma.

and . . . that's the way i see it ~ RHF
.

On May 30, 5:07 am, David wrote:


On May 30, 6:20 am, "xfile" wrote:



My two cents,



I don't see the needs for customers to sign any petitions.
It's
the product
provider's job to find out if their product is well accepted
by
the market
or not. And it's their product so they have every right for
making the
decision. If they think Vista is so good, just terminate XP
and
make
Windows 7 even more like Vista. Of course, it's also them who
have to take
the consequences of that decision. Life finds a way, so no
need
to beg
anyone for keeping a product or not.



"Clear Windows" wrote in message



...



http://www.neowin.net/news/main/08/0...ng-official-pe...



If you can remember back a few weeks, Steve Ballmer went on
record saying
that Microsoft would consider extending the life of Windows
XP
if enough
people asked for it. Afterall, many people don't want to
upgrade to
Windows Vista because they are perfectly content with XP. The
problem was
there was no way to ask for it. Sure, you could sign one of
the
many
online petitions, but Microsoft considers those "non-official
complaints"
and the rest of us simply consider them silly.



Well, word has been passed down to the tech support teams
(and
then on to
Neowin) that they are to begin logging any calls that come in
for the sole
purpose of requesting an extension to the retail life of
Windows XP. The
calls will be logged and, if enough complaints are filed,
Microsoft will
consider giving XP some more time (no pinky promises,
though).



If you wish to file an official petition yourself, you can
simply call the
Windows XP Home Edition support numbers for your country and
let the
operator know that you wish to file an official complaint.
Because we're
so nice and want to save you the trouble, here are the
numbers
for a
majority of Neowin's visitors:



United States: (866) 234-6020
United Kingdom: 0870 60 10 100
Canada: (800) 936-8479



If your country isn't listed, you can visit the Microsoft
Support Site,
choose your country, choose Windows XP Home Edition as your
product and
then go to 'Contacts' for the appropriate support number.



I disagree with their methodology but will make the call.



Windows XP is fast, RELIABLE, and meets the needs of the vast
majority
of PC users



United States: (866) 234-6020
United Kingdom: 0870 60 10 100
Canada: (800) 936-8479



Save Windows XP- Hide quoted text -



- Show quoted text -




- But the problem is that whatever Microsoft comes up with to
replace
Vista will be the same resource Hog Vista is now;
- with no substantial gain.

And you know this because...?

- Imagine how nice it would be to have a REALLY fast, reliable PC
that
ran on Some Future Iteration of hardware



I've got multiple installs of that OS right now...it's called
Vista!


- but had Reliable, Familiar Windows XP as its OS



Why? Once you become familiar with Vista, then XP seems old, slow
and
clunky...just W2K did after we became familiar with XP.


- tapping into whatever faster Internet / server farm is
standard
down teh road.



????????????????????????


Worth Saving Windows XP, in the opinion of over 200,000



Yeah right. You don't think for one second that 200,000
individuals
responded do you?
If so, lets talk about some very fine bridges I happens to know of
that
are for sale...LOL!
Also blogs are now becoming click-and-I-get-cash cows. Any
resemblance
to a real e-rag news outlet is delusional at best.
Frank



Frank knows all about delusional. It's his life.


Sure you do, Madeline


Most people fine it rather strange that the real malcontents in this
ng
are the ones who can't get their installs of vista to run properly.
They blame MS and call those of us who have successfully, installed,
configure and run Vista properly, 'fanboys" as if that somehow
properly
vilifies us makes their obvious computer incompetence some kind of an
aberration.
adam albright is the leader of that demented, delusional pact of
idiot
moron losers.
And I am daily amazed that this piece of **** can't actually still
type
on a keyboard with his fat, bald head shoved all the way up his fat
stupid ass!
Simply amazing!
Frank

We all know you are experienced at installing updates. It seems that
updates and service packs are a way of life with Windows.

Oh? As compared to the 180+ updates for urbuttoo? Or how about
upgrading
to a whole new os every six months? Isn't that the "way of life' with
linux/urbuttoo, huh?
Did you come to this Vista ng to try and spread your lies like you have
been doing in the printer ng now for yrs?
Guess what asshole, I've got your number and you're #1 on my **** list!
Frank

The Ubuntu LTS versions are every other year. The intermediate versions
are for new users to play with 'til the next LTS version. There has
never
been a "whole new os" as far as I can tell, just constant refinements
(usually hardware support as more and more vendors hop on-board) that
are
almost always 100% backwards compatible.

Ubuntu 8.04 is an LTS and like butter.


Ubuntu sounds like a case of an African disease


We can add racist to your list of flaws.


Just an observation Marxist liberal. We do know that you'll love your
socialist idol Obama. Maybe if you would kick the habits that create your
dementia you might actually get it


Billy Smith June 6th 08 10:27 PM

D'Oh ! - The Future of Windows XP -according-to- Microsoft Corp.
 

"dave" wrote in message
...
Billy Smith wrote:

Eee PC?
Everex WalMart special with a Via C7D motherboard and a switching power
supply. It's a desktop. I also have an Eee 4G Surf subnotebook. Less
is more.


Only with the Third World Wal Mart mindset. Must be another retarded
liberal


Retarded left libertarian (go Barr!) actually, thank-you very much.

You have done nothing to dissuade me from thinking Windows users are
generally more hostile than people who use free OS solutions.

I actually got my Everex from New Egg, but it is famous for being the $199
WalMart special.


It really doesn't matter what you think since opinions are a dime a dozen.
You can bitch and moan like a crybaby all you want about Vista or XP or
whatever. It won't change things and you can expect that users will be using
Vista or some other Microsoft product way into the future. Linux won't
become crap. It has been on the market for around 10 years and frankly its
not going to take over any market. Even if your claims of Linux superiority
were correct, which they are not, no one still uses it for the most part.
Find me major corporations in America that are conducting most of their IT
and computer systems in Linux. Very few.

Its easy being a libertarian and or liberal when you live in your moms
basement. After all, you take pride in it


RHF June 6th 08 10:47 PM

D'Oh ! - The Future of Windows XP -according-to- Microsoft Corp.
 
On Jun 6, 2:17*pm, "Billy Smith" wrote:
"RHF" wrote in message

...
On Jun 6, 6:16 am, dave wrote:





Billy Smith wrote:
Eee PC?
Everex WalMart special with a Via C7D motherboard and a switching
power supply. It's a desktop. I also have an Eee 4G Surf
subnotebook. Less is more.


Only with the Third World Wal Mart mindset. Must be another retarded
liberal


Retarded left libertarian (go Barr!) actually, thank-you very much.


You have done nothing to dissuade me from thinking Windows users are
generally more hostile than people who use free OS solutions.


I actually got my Everex from New Egg, but it is famous for being the
$199 WalMart special.


EVEREX VA1500V NoteBook VIA C7-M 1.50GHz 15.4" Wide XGA+ 512MB Memory
DDR2 667 60GB HDD 5400rpm DVD/CD-RW Combo VIA Chrome 9 HC IGP -
Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16834280009

Not so glowing reports on Linux and its video drivers. No customer support,
poor RAM capacity, poor hard drive capacity akin to a 5 year old machine.
Not impressive at all- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


BS - tyvm ~ RHF

dave June 7th 08 06:35 PM

D'Oh ! - The Future of Windows XP -according-to- Microsoft Corp.
 
Billy Smith wrote:


I actually got my Everex from New Egg, but it is famous for being the
$199 WalMart special.


EVEREX VA1500V NoteBook VIA C7-M 1.50GHz 15.4" Wide XGA+ 512MB Memory
DDR2 667 60GB HDD 5400rpm DVD/CD-RW Combo VIA Chrome 9 HC IGP -
Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16834280009

Not so glowing reports on Linux and its video drivers. No customer
support, poor RAM capacity, poor hard drive capacity akin to a 5 year
old machine. Not impressive at all


Wrong one, Billy. It's this one (now only $189!):

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16883118005


dave June 7th 08 06:40 PM

D'Oh ! - The Future of Windows XP -according-to- Microsoft Corp.
 
Billy Smith wrote:

"dave" wrote in message
...
Billy Smith wrote:

"Dave" wrote in message
...
RHF wrote:


-ps- Five (5) Years is almost Two (2) Life Cycles in the ever
changing Softwave-and-Hardware Turn-Over-and-Upgrade
PC Users Dilemma.

This is stupid. There is no reason to overhaul your PC every 30
months. Think of the toxic waste. My computer uses 12 Watts.

And your computer still doesn't work


I have 4 computers. The XP machine is down right now, and I'm in no
hurry to fix it.


Why? Is it too hard for you to fix anything or are you such a
technological neanderthal that it would be impossible to fix for
yourself. Which you probably also blame on Microsoft.


It is precisely because of my techno-prowess that I can recognize that
Windows is a dead-end vector compared to the Unix-esque platforms that
are rapidly gaining traction, even as doubts grow about Windows'
viabilty looking forward.


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