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Microsoft Taking Official Petitions to Keep XP Alive
You make it perfectly obvious you know nothing about programming, the
business of it, or the testing of the product. What for example would be your test standards? "Adam Albright" wrote in message ... On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 08:41:08 -0500, "Unknown" wrote: That's the indication you have tunnel vision and do not understand the real problem. It (your tunnel vision) can be caused by your very negative attitude. Negative attitude? Since when is the truth negative? Call me odd if you want, I'm kind of funny in that I expect something I've paid for to work as advertised. The real problem is Microsoft has a 20+ year history of releasing Windows with KNOWN bugs. I guess a dope like you thinks that's cool. You certainly seem to excuse it at least. How come? Please don't insult me with the typical all software has bugs bull****. "Adam Albright" wrote in message . .. On Sun, 1 Jun 2008 17:45:47 -0500, "Unknown" wrote: Very stupid comment. Ever stop to think what causes the crashes? Sure, poor design, bugs and sloppy, bloated untested code. |
Microsoft Taking Official Petitions to Keep XP Alive
With approximately 180 million computers running Windows XP and you have a
problem, does that tell you anything? "Adam Albright" wrote in message ... On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 08:46:23 -0500, "Unknown" wrote: O.K. You built it and it keeps crashing. That describes you. I built the system. Microsoft built the operating system. That is what crashes and has so many security holes in it. Funny thing, I'm not alone. Check it out: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...Vista+problems I guess the "WOW" Microsoft use to use to describe Vista must be they knew Google would find millions of people having problems. Since you asked, consider this one: http://security.itproportal.com/arti...rns-microsoft/ It seems Apple's popular browser Safari is a security risk on the Windows platform and Microsoft just made an official request for Windows users to stay away from it and not use it. Oh this is indeed interesting. If you're a true blue Microsoft fan you're trusting Microsoft crap like Defender and UAC to PROTECT you. Well not so fast. This issue and THREAT is due to how Windows in both XP and Vista handles executable files on the desktop, the most logical place you would have a link to a browser. Oh you remember, the very things Microsoft claims it wants to protect you from with Defender and UAC. Guess those things don't work too well. Surprise! Honest, you Microsoft apologists make be laugh so hard my ribs hurt. |
Microsoft Taking Official Petitions to Keep XP Alive
Now YOU have a narrow mind. Do you constantly add new programs to an
appliance? Do you infect them with the likes of Norton, Symantec or registry cleaners? Wake up and compare apples to apples. "m II" wrote in message news:9oT0k.496$7B3.76@edtnps91... Unknown wrote: Very stupid comment. Ever stop to think what causes the crashes? I shouldn't have to. That's more stupid than the first. (top posting fixed to ensure clarity) Why should he HAVE to worry about what causes crashes? Any properly running appliances, such a refrigerators, alarm clocks, etc., cause no worry OR a need for detective work. You plug them in and they do their job. mike -- Due to the insane amount of spam and garbage, this filter blocks all postings from Gmail, Google Mail and Google Groups. http://improve-usenet.org/ |
Microsoft Taking Official Petitions to Keep XP Alive
Holy Cow-----Do you ever read your posts and criticize them? You should
talk. "Adam Albright" wrote in message ... On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 08:49:05 -0500, "Unknown" wrote: That's more stupid than the first. This newsgroup is overflowing with stupid comments. Many of them seem to be coming from guys like you that can't stand to see anyone being critical of Vista. Sorry to inform you it sounds like you have been inflicted with the same fatal disease the resident troll Frank has where the person just rants and screams and keeps making excuses for Microsoft releasing crap. "dave" wrote in message . .. Unknown wrote: Very stupid comment. Ever stop to think what causes the crashes? I shouldn't have to. |
D'Oh ! - The Future of Windows XP -according-to- Microsoft Corp.
D'Oh ! - The Future of Windows XP -according-to- Microsoft Corp.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pro...xp/future.mspx Windows XP will be Gone in June 2008 ? - NOT ! MS Says - Windows XP Sales will Stop on 30 June 2008. Note - Some Existing 'new' Old-Stock of Windows XP presently in Retailers Inventory may be available until 2009 or longer. MS Says - Technical Support [Service Pack Downloads] for Window XP will be provided by Microsoft Corp until 2014. OK - What is the Problem ? Yeah -if- You buy a New Computer you will likely get stuck with have Micorsoft's VISTA pre-installed -but- your Old PC that is running Windows XP will have support for Five (5) more years. Hopefully within those Five (5) Years Microsoft will have something better than VISTA as their latest super-dupper OS : Plus you will have a lot of new Hardware to Want-to-Buy. -ps- Five (5) Years is almost Two (2) Life Cycles in the ever changing Softwave-and-Hardware Turn-Over-and-Upgrade PC Users Dilemma. and . . . that's the way i see it ~ RHF |
Microsoft Taking Official Petitions to Keep XP Alive
In your mind a big steel box is the same as electronics with components
microns apart trying to be all things to all people with hundreds of misfits attempting to create the meanest virus. You made your position perfectly clear and I'll also end it here.. m II" wrote in message news:_DU0k.517$7B3.302@edtnps91... (top posting fixed to ensure clarity) Unknown wrote: Very stupid comment. Ever stop to think what causes the crashes? I shouldn't have to. That's more stupid than the first. Why should he HAVE to worry about what causes crashes? Any properly running appliances, such a refrigerators, alarm clocks, etc., cause no worry OR a need for detective work. You plug them in and they do their job. Now YOU have a narrow mind. Do you constantly add new programs to an appliance? Do you infect them with the likes of Norton, Symantec or registry cleaners? Wake up and compare apples to apples. I infect my fridge and freezer with all kinds of stuff. Some of it HOT. I subject it to harsh cleaners and repeated slamming of the doors. The alarm clock/radio gets subjected to the weirdest combinations of button presses, especially in the morning. The processor in the clock keeps ticking. The same with the processors in the dryer and microwave. The power company subjects ALL my appliances to surges, spikes and brownouts. So far, they've all survived, with the clock setting in the microwave being the exception. That unit has no battery backup. The point dave was making is that the computer and it's software should be no different than a garden variety appliance. It should just work. The bloated operating systems out there now are so convoluted in their construction that even their makers have lost track of what's in the code. The finer points of quality and care in the finished product seem to have been lost in the mad rush to get unfinished work to market and more people are voting with their wallet and NOT buying. With all respect, I am now leaving this discussion. This can turn into a never ending debate. Please, feel free to have the last word. mike -- Due to the insane amount of spam and garbage, this filter blocks all postings from Gmail, Google Mail and Google Groups. http://improve-usenet.org/ |
Microsoft Taking Official Petitions to Keep XP Alive
"Adam Albright" wrote in message ... On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 08:46:23 -0500, "Unknown" wrote: O.K. You built it and it keeps crashing. That describes you. I built the system. Microsoft built the operating system. That is what crashes and has so many security holes in it. Funny thing, I'm not alone. Check it out: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...Vista+problems I guess the "WOW" Microsoft use to use to describe Vista must be they knew Google would find millions of people having problems. Since you asked, consider this one: http://security.itproportal.com/arti...rns-microsoft/ It seems Apple's popular browser Safari is a security risk on the Windows platform and Microsoft just made an official request for Windows users to stay away from it and not use it. This one is a mixed bag. Users should dump Safari if Apple can't promptly fix the issues. But it is a dangerous precident with obvious bias that Microsoft recommends users not to use Safari. Smacks of WeSaySo. Oh this is indeed interesting. If you're a true blue Microsoft fan you're trusting Microsoft crap like Defender and UAC to PROTECT you. In the Vancouver hack fest, they broke into Vista and UAC didn't react. Obviously UAC while it might be better, still is like a login to Windows 95, show and tell. Just click cancel and it used to work for me. UAC appears like this, bypassable. Well not so fast. This issue and THREAT is due to how Windows in both XP and Vista handles executable files on the desktop, the most logical place you would have a link to a browser. Oh you remember, the very things Microsoft claims it wants to protect you from with Defender and UAC. Guess those things don't work too well. Surprise! Honest, you Microsoft apologists make be laugh so hard my ribs hurt. Me too. LOL. But I do agree with the UAC concept, if something is modifying the OS, the user needs to be prompted. Just that the Vista UAC seems somewhat like a incomplete last minute hack. Linux has this too, just far more polish went into it that Vista. I suspect we are in fact Win7 beta testers with Vista. |
Microsoft Taking Official Petitions to Keep XP Alive
Adam Albright wrote:
On Sun, 1 Jun 2008 20:21:06 -0400, "Billy Smith" wrote: You are talking to Adam Not So Bright. Its amusing these guys keep complaining about crashes but Ive had XP for about 6 years and no crashes, Vista about a year and no crashes. Nice. Did I miss some "logic" in that silly comment? No, just another patsy that doesn't have a clue. Let me explain the facts of life to the armatures here one more time in simple terms maybe they can understand. How often one might expect to see Windows "crash" is proportional to what you use your computer for. An analogy would be you wouldn't expect your car to have a major mechanical breakdown if all you did was drive it up and down your driveway once a week. However if you're trying to tow a two ton boat and trailer up a steep hill for miles every weekend then something breaking down is far more likely to happen. It is obvious from reading many of the posts here that a lot of people merely "play" with their computer. That's like driving that car back and forth on your driveway. Of course just surfing the web, reading email, maybe writing some short document or crunching some numbers in a spreadsheet isn't stressful to your computer or Windows so expecting it to see crashes under those circumstances would be silly and yes if that's all I did I wouldn't expect Windows to crash for years either. On the other hand some of us actually WORK with our computers stressing it to the limit like that car straining to pull that boat and trailer up a steep hill for mile after mile. The chances of Windows crashing when it is running under heavy load increases the likelihood something will hang, stop working or the system just getting sluggish. HUH? WTF? -- Joe Leikhim K4SAT "The RFI-EMI-GUY"© "Treason doth never prosper: what's the reason? For if it prosper, none dare call it treason." "Follow The Money" ;-P |
D'Oh ! - The Future of Windows XP -according-to- Microsoft Corp.
On Jun 2, 11:42*am, RHF wrote:
D'Oh ! - The Future of Windows XP -according-to- Microsoft Corp.http://www..microsoft.com/windows/pr...xp/future.mspx Windows XP will be Gone in June 2008 ? - NOT ! MS Says - Windows XP Sales will Stop on 30 June 2008. Note - Some Existing 'new' Old-Stock of Windows XP presently in Retailers Inventory may be available until 2009 or longer. MS Says - Technical Support [Service Pack Downloads] for Window XP will be provided by Microsoft Corp until 2014. OK - What is the Problem ? Yeah -if- You buy a New Computer you will likely get stuck with have Micorsoft's VISTA pre-installed -but- your Old PC that is running Windows XP will have support for Five (5) more years. Hopefully within those Five (5) Years Microsoft will have something better than VISTA as their latest super-dupper OS : Plus you will have a lot of new Hardware to Want-to-Buy. -ps- Five (5) Years is almost Two (2) Life Cycles in the ever changing Softwave-and-Hardware Turn-Over-and-Upgrade PC Users Dilemma. and . . . that's the way i see it ~ RHF *. On May 30, 5:07*am, David wrote: On May 30, 6:20 am, "xfile" wrote: My two cents, I don't see the needs for customers to sign any petitions. *It's the product provider's job to find out if their product is well accepted by the market or not. *And it's their product so they have every right for making the decision. *If they think Vista is so good, just terminate XP and make Windows 7 even more like Vista. *Of course, it's also them who have to take the consequences of that decision. *Life finds a way, so no need to beg anyone for keeping a product or not. "Clear Windows" wrote in message ... http://www.neowin.net/news/main/08/0...ng-official-pe.... If you can remember back a few weeks, Steve Ballmer went on record saying that Microsoft would consider extending the life of Windows XP if enough people asked for it. Afterall, many people don't want to upgrade to Windows Vista because they are perfectly content with XP. The problem was there was no way to ask for it. Sure, you could sign one of the many online petitions, but Microsoft considers those "non-official complaints" and the rest of us simply consider them silly. Well, word has been passed down to the tech support teams (and then on to Neowin) that they are to begin logging any calls that come in for the sole purpose of requesting an extension to the retail life of Windows XP. The calls will be logged and, if enough complaints are filed, Microsoft will consider giving XP some more time (no pinky promises, though). If you wish to file an official petition yourself, you can simply call the Windows XP Home Edition support numbers for your country and let the operator know that you wish to file an official complaint. Because we're so nice and want to save you the trouble, here are the numbers for a majority of Neowin's visitors: United States: (866) 234-6020 United Kingdom: 0870 60 10 100 Canada: (800) 936-8479 If your country isn't listed, you can visit the Microsoft Support Site, choose your country, choose Windows XP Home Edition as your product and then go to 'Contacts' for the appropriate support number. I disagree with their methodology but will make the call. Windows XP is fast, RELIABLE, and meets the needs of the vast majority of PC users United States: (866) 234-6020 *United Kingdom: 0870 60 10 100 *Canada: (800) 936-8479 Save Windows XP- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - - But the problem is that whatever Microsoft comes up with to replace Vista will be the same resource Hog Vista is now; - with no substantial gain. - Imagine how nice it would be to have a REALLY fast, reliable PC that ran on Some Future Iteration of hardware - but had Reliable, Familiar Windows XP as its OS - tapping into whatever faster Internet / server farm is standard down teh road. Worth Saving Windows XP, in the opinion of over 200,000 http://weblog.infoworld.com/save-xp/ |
D'Oh ! - The Future of Windows XP -according-to- Microsoft Corp.
On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 17:48:53 -0700, Frank wrote:
wrote: On Jun 2, 11:42 am, RHF wrote: D'Oh ! - The Future of Windows XP -according-to- Microsoft Corp.http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pro...xp/future.mspx Windows XP will be Gone in June 2008 ? - NOT ! MS Says - Windows XP Sales will Stop on 30 June 2008. Note - Some Existing 'new' Old-Stock of Windows XP presently in Retailers Inventory may be available until 2009 or longer. MS Says - Technical Support [Service Pack Downloads] for Window XP will be provided by Microsoft Corp until 2014. OK - What is the Problem ? Yeah -if- You buy a New Computer you will likely get stuck with have Micorsoft's VISTA pre-installed -but- your Old PC that is running Windows XP will have support for Five (5) more years. Hopefully within those Five (5) Years Microsoft will have something better than VISTA as their latest super-dupper OS : Plus you will have a lot of new Hardware to Want-to-Buy. -ps- Five (5) Years is almost Two (2) Life Cycles in the ever changing Softwave-and-Hardware Turn-Over-and-Upgrade PC Users Dilemma. and . . . that's the way i see it ~ RHF . On May 30, 5:07 am, David wrote: On May 30, 6:20 am, "xfile" wrote: My two cents, I don't see the needs for customers to sign any petitions. It's the product provider's job to find out if their product is well accepted by the market or not. And it's their product so they have every right for making the decision. If they think Vista is so good, just terminate XP and make Windows 7 even more like Vista. Of course, it's also them who have to take the consequences of that decision. Life finds a way, so no need to beg anyone for keeping a product or not. "Clear Windows" wrote in message ... http://www.neowin.net/news/main/08/0...ng-official-pe... If you can remember back a few weeks, Steve Ballmer went on record saying that Microsoft would consider extending the life of Windows XP if enough people asked for it. Afterall, many people don't want to upgrade to Windows Vista because they are perfectly content with XP. The problem was there was no way to ask for it. Sure, you could sign one of the many online petitions, but Microsoft considers those "non-official complaints" and the rest of us simply consider them silly. Well, word has been passed down to the tech support teams (and then on to Neowin) that they are to begin logging any calls that come in for the sole purpose of requesting an extension to the retail life of Windows XP. The calls will be logged and, if enough complaints are filed, Microsoft will consider giving XP some more time (no pinky promises, though). If you wish to file an official petition yourself, you can simply call the Windows XP Home Edition support numbers for your country and let the operator know that you wish to file an official complaint. Because we're so nice and want to save you the trouble, here are the numbers for a majority of Neowin's visitors: United States: (866) 234-6020 United Kingdom: 0870 60 10 100 Canada: (800) 936-8479 If your country isn't listed, you can visit the Microsoft Support Site, choose your country, choose Windows XP Home Edition as your product and then go to 'Contacts' for the appropriate support number. I disagree with their methodology but will make the call. Windows XP is fast, RELIABLE, and meets the needs of the vast majority of PC users United States: (866) 234-6020 United Kingdom: 0870 60 10 100 Canada: (800) 936-8479 Save Windows XP- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - - But the problem is that whatever Microsoft comes up with to replace Vista will be the same resource Hog Vista is now; - with no substantial gain. And you know this because...? - Imagine how nice it would be to have a REALLY fast, reliable PC that ran on Some Future Iteration of hardware I've got multiple installs of that OS right now...it's called Vista! - but had Reliable, Familiar Windows XP as its OS Why? Once you become familiar with Vista, then XP seems old, slow and clunky...just W2K did after we became familiar with XP. - tapping into whatever faster Internet / server farm is standard down teh road. ???????????????????????? Worth Saving Windows XP, in the opinion of over 200,000 Yeah right. You don't think for one second that 200,000 individuals responded do you? If so, lets talk about some very fine bridges I happens to know of that are for sale...LOL! Also blogs are now becoming click-and-I-get-cash cows. Any resemblance to a real e-rag news outlet is delusional at best. Frank Frank knows all about delusional. It's his life. |
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