OT) The Iowa Floods
 

A few pointed questions about the Iowa floods:

Where are all of the Hollywood celebrities holding telethons asking for
help in restoring Iowa and helping the folks affected by the floods?
Where is all the media asking the tough questions about why the federal
government hasn't solved the problem? Asking where the FEMA trucks (and
trailers) are?
Why isn't the Federal Government relocating Iowa people to free hotels
in Chicago ?
When will Spike Lee say that the Federal Government blew up the levees
that failed in Des Moines ?
Where are Sean Penn and the Dixie Chicks?
Where are all the looters stealing high-end tennis shoes and big screen
television sets?
When will we hear Governor Chet Culver say that he wants to rebuild a
"vanilla" Iowa , because that's the way God wants it?
Where is the hysterical 24/7 media coverage complete with reports of
cannibalism?
Where are the people declaring that George Bush hates white, rural
people?
How come in 2 weeks, you will never hear about the Iowa flooding ever
again?
(via a friend)

OT) The Iowa Floods
 

On Jul 14, 2:37 pm, dxAce wrote:
A few pointed questions about the Iowa floods:

Where are all of the Hollywood celebrities holding telethons asking for
help in restoring Iowa and helping the folks affected by the floods?
Where is all the media asking the tough questions about why the federal
government hasn't solved the problem? Asking where the FEMA trucks (and
trailers) are?
Why isn't the Federal Government relocating Iowa people to free hotels
in Chicago ?
When will Spike Lee say that the Federal Government blew up the levees
that failed in Des Moines ?
Where are Sean Penn and the Dixie Chicks?
Where are all the looters stealing high-end tennis shoes and big screen
television sets?
When will we hear Governor Chet Culver say that he wants to rebuild a
"vanilla" Iowa , because that's the way God wants it?
Where is the hysterical 24/7 media coverage complete with reports of
cannibalism?
Where are the people declaring that George Bush hates white, rural
people?
How come in 2 weeks, you will never hear about the Iowa flooding ever
again?
(via a friend)

There are no Bodies floating around in the water ?

No Corpses sitting out in Wheelchairs in The rain ?

No Riots in large sports arenas ?

- Only part of Des Moines got flooded ?

A lot of this is due to the fact that land usage has changed,
a lot of wet lands have been plowed under for crops,
and drainage pipes put under the fields to dry them out faster,

- so when It rains the water just rushes into the nearest river.

Round these parts, they had a Huge Winter storm in the 1950's
wiping out huge areas near the coast.

- Upshot is, all the houses are built essentially on stilts, with
break away lattice covering the " below living" areas.

Always nice to build a house next to a stream or river;
- until it floods.

Things will change.. Buildings on stilts , etc.

& **** Spike Lee, he gets 12 Million per film & then cries "
Prejudice"

A Real Prick

( but a real Good Film Maker)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spike_Lee

OT) The Iowa Floods
 

On Jul 14, 11:37*am, dxAce wrote:
A few pointed questions about the Iowa floods:

Where are all of the Hollywood celebrities holding telethons asking for
help in restoring Iowa and helping the folks affected by the floods?
Where is all the media asking the tough questions about why the federal
government hasn't solved the problem? Asking where the FEMA trucks (and
trailers) are?
Why isn't the Federal Government relocating Iowa people to free hotels
in Chicago ?
When will Spike Lee say that the Federal Government blew up the levees
that failed in Des Moines ?
Where are Sean Penn and the Dixie Chicks?
Where are all the looters stealing high-end tennis shoes and big screen
television sets?
When will we hear Governor Chet Culver say that he wants to rebuild a
"vanilla" Iowa , because that's the way God wants it?
Where is the hysterical 24/7 media coverage complete with reports of
cannibalism?
Where are the people declaring that George Bush hates white, rural
people?
How come in 2 weeks, you will never hear about the Iowa flooding ever
again?
(via a friend)

Because the Federal government (specifically FEMA) is charged with the
responsibility to respond to major emergencies, and the Bush
Administration is the biggest band of incompetent screwups and
negligent idiots ever to mislead a country?

There is no excuse for this incompetence, either in Katrina, or the
much less severe Iowa flooding.

One thing is for certain. If Clinton were President, the National
Guard would have evacuated those hospitals and those without cars
BEFORE the hurricane hit.

So sad we have such ****ty leaders in America right now. Republicans
are the worst joke.

OT) The Iowa Floods
 

On Jul 14, 11:37*am, dxAce wrote:
A few pointed questions about the Iowa floods:

Where are all of the Hollywood celebrities holding telethons asking for
help in restoring Iowa and helping the folks affected by the floods?
Where is all the media asking the tough questions about why the federal
government hasn't solved the problem? Asking where the FEMA trucks (and
trailers) are?
Why isn't the Federal Government relocating Iowa people to free hotels
in Chicago ?
When will Spike Lee say that the Federal Government blew up the levees
that failed in Des Moines ?
Where are Sean Penn and the Dixie Chicks?
Where are all the looters stealing high-end tennis shoes and big screen
television sets?
When will we hear Governor Chet Culver say that he wants to rebuild a
"vanilla" Iowa , because that's the way God wants it?
Where is the hysterical 24/7 media coverage complete with reports of
cannibalism?
Where are the people declaring that George Bush hates white, rural
people?
How come in 2 weeks, you will never hear about the Iowa flooding ever
again?
(via a friend)

Katrina wouldn't have been such a monumental disaster if the President
on down cared about national security or the people in this country.
Both responses (or more accurately, lack of response) PROVE they do
not give a damn about either Americans or national security, their
dishonest rhetoric to the contrary.

OT) The Iowa Floods
 

On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 12:27:56 -0700, dogbertmcdoggles wrote:


Because the Federal government (specifically FEMA) is charged with the
responsibility to respond to major emergencies, and the Bush
Administration is the biggest band of incompetent screwups and negligent
idiots ever to mislead a country?

There is no excuse for this incompetence, either in Katrina, or the much
less severe Iowa flooding.

Incompetence has nothing to do with it. Race has nothing to do with it.
It's all about turning a purple state red.

Is Cedar Radids still under water?

OT) The Iowa Floods
 

"Dave" wrote in message ...
On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 12:27:56 -0700, dogbertmcdoggles wrote:


Because the Federal government (specifically FEMA) is charged with the
responsibility to respond to major emergencies, and the Bush
Administration is the biggest band of incompetent screwups and negligent
idiots ever to mislead a country?

There is no excuse for this incompetence, either in Katrina, or the much
less severe Iowa flooding.

Incompetence has nothing to do with it. Race has nothing to do with it.
It's all about turning a purple state red.




Is Cedar Radids still under water?



Nope, and neither is Cedar Rapids.

OT) The Iowa Floods
 

It's pretty bad out there..........I was talking to one of my Cedar Rapids
friends over the weekend. FEMA has set up trailors out just east of Marion.
This town is just northeast of Cedar Rapids, on Route 151.
The homeless are permitted to live in these trailors rent free........all
they have to pay are the utilities. This friend of mine (Jeff Woods) is
helping out on the cleanup detail. Some of the houses are so bad from the
flooding that if you step into them, the floor will crumble and you will end
up in the basement. Those are the houses that are going to be torn down.
The people with flood damage are being given 28000 dollars to repair their
houses; the people whose houses are damaged beyond repair are being given an
additional 30000 or so dollars.
You are right......you don't hear anything about it on the news. It looks
like Cedar Rapids doesn't have enough money to "grease the palms" of the
news media.
It is unfortunate...................a celebrity's son or daughter gets
killed, and it is all over the news. When I lived on the west side of
Chicago in the 60s, there would be murders every week, but none of this
would ever hit the news media. Once again, unless you are some sort of
celebrity, you are considered
"insinificant" by the media.

Pete

"harvey" wrote in message
...
On Jul 14, 2:37 pm, dxAce wrote:
A few pointed questions about the Iowa floods:

Where are all of the Hollywood celebrities holding telethons asking for
help in restoring Iowa and helping the folks affected by the floods?
Where is all the media asking the tough questions about why the federal
government hasn't solved the problem? Asking where the FEMA trucks (and
trailers) are?
Why isn't the Federal Government relocating Iowa people to free hotels
in Chicago ?
When will Spike Lee say that the Federal Government blew up the levees
that failed in Des Moines ?
Where are Sean Penn and the Dixie Chicks?
Where are all the looters stealing high-end tennis shoes and big screen
television sets?
When will we hear Governor Chet Culver say that he wants to rebuild a
"vanilla" Iowa , because that's the way God wants it?
Where is the hysterical 24/7 media coverage complete with reports of
cannibalism?
Where are the people declaring that George Bush hates white, rural
people?
How come in 2 weeks, you will never hear about the Iowa flooding ever
again?
(via a friend)

There are no Bodies floating around in the water ?

No Corpses sitting out in Wheelchairs in The rain ?

No Riots in large sports arenas ?

- Only part of Des Moines got flooded ?

A lot of this is due to the fact that land usage has changed,
a lot of wet lands have been plowed under for crops,
and drainage pipes put under the fields to dry them out faster,

- so when It rains the water just rushes into the nearest river.

Round these parts, they had a Huge Winter storm in the 1950's
wiping out huge areas near the coast.

- Upshot is, all the houses are built essentially on stilts, with
break away lattice covering the " below living" areas.

Always nice to build a house next to a stream or river;
- until it floods.

Things will change.. Buildings on stilts , etc.

& **** Spike Lee, he gets 12 Million per film & then cries "
Prejudice"

A Real Prick

( but a real Good Film Maker)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spike_Lee

OT) The Iowa Floods
 

A few parts of Cedar Rapids are still under water, at least last week they
were. Much of the town smells like a sewer. Most, if not all of the
houseboats on the Cedar River were caught up in the flood and got stuck
under the railroad bridge near the downtown area.
The city hall is situated on an island in the middle of the Cedar
River.............it was submerged. The town is still in a bad way. I've got
several friends that really had their houses messed up from that flood.
Power may or may not still be out in several parts of the city. I'll bet
that Alliant Energy is having a boatload of fun.

Pete

"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 12:27:56 -0700, dogbertmcdoggles wrote:


Because the Federal government (specifically FEMA) is charged with the
responsibility to respond to major emergencies, and the Bush
Administration is the biggest band of incompetent screwups and negligent
idiots ever to mislead a country?

There is no excuse for this incompetence, either in Katrina, or the much
less severe Iowa flooding.

Incompetence has nothing to do with it. Race has nothing to do with it.
It's all about turning a purple state red.

Is Cedar Radids still under water?

OT) The Iowa Floods
 

On Jul 14, 4:43*pm, "Pete KE9OA" wrote:
It's pretty bad out there..........I was talking to one of my Cedar Rapids
friends over the weekend. FEMA has set up trailors out just east of Marion.

OT) The Iowa Floods
 

wrote:

On Jul 14, 11:50 pm, Tex wrote:
On Jul 14, 1:37 pm, dxAce wrote:



A few pointed questions about the Iowa floods:

Where are all of the Hollywood celebrities holding telethons asking for
help in restoring Iowa and helping the folks affected by the floods?
Where is all the media asking the tough questions about why the federal
government hasn't solved the problem? Asking where the FEMA trucks (and
trailers) are?
Why isn't the Federal Government relocating Iowa people to free hotels
in Chicago ?
When will Spike Lee say that the Federal Government blew up the levees
that failed in Des Moines ?
Where are Sean Penn and the Dixie Chicks?
Where are all the looters stealing high-end tennis shoes and big screen
television sets?
When will we hear Governor Chet Culver say that he wants to rebuild a
"vanilla" Iowa , because that's the way God wants it?
Where is the hysterical 24/7 media coverage complete with reports of
cannibalism?
Where are the people declaring that George Bush hates white, rural
people?
How come in 2 weeks, you will never hear about the Iowa flooding ever
again?
(via a friend)

Where is Rush Limbaugh? Where is Sean Hannity? Where is Glen Beck?
Where is Bill O'Reilly? Where is Lars Larsen? Where is Mike Gallagher?
Where is every local yokel talk radio on every friggin station in
Iowa, Nebraska, South Dakota, Minnesota, Illinois, et.al. (all of whom
are CONservatives)?

I heard the Drug Addled Gasbag bloviating about this, (correctly)
praising the heroic response of Iowans, and (incorrectly) darkly
implying that the problem in Katrina was the stupid and lazy dark-
skinned people in Louisiana rather than the stupid and lazy leaders at
the very top who sat back and did nothing as a city full of people
drowned because they didn't own cars or were hospitalized or infirm.
Disgusting.

Actually it was the leaders at the bottom who sat back and did nothing,
Including the totally idiotic Mayor of New Orleans, who personifies 'dumbass'.

OT) The Iowa Floods
 

On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 16:11:07 -0400, dxAce wrote:



Actually it was the leaders at the bottom who sat back and did nothing,
Including the totally idiotic Mayor of New Orleans, who personifies
'dumbass'

Do you have any facts to back your assertions?

OT) The Iowa Floods
 

In article ,
Dave wrote:

On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 16:11:07 -0400, dxAce wrote:



Actually it was the leaders at the bottom who sat back and did nothing,
Including the totally idiotic Mayor of New Orleans, who personifies
'dumbass'

Do you have any facts to back your assertions?

Yes. They are all contained in your next bowl of dope.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

OT) The Iowa Floods
 

You are correct............the people of Iowa are really pitching in to help
each other. I met quite a few nice people when we were living in Cedar
Rapids. I remember when I had to go into the hospital to get a C5 fusion in
my spine............one of my friends drove 66 miles from DeWitt, to be
there when I went into surgery. He still comes out to visit us from time to
time.

Pete

wrote in message
...
On Jul 14, 4:43 pm, "Pete KE9OA" wrote:
It's pretty bad out there..........I was talking to one of my Cedar Rapids
friends over the weekend. FEMA has set up trailors out just east of
Marion.
This town is just northeast of Cedar Rapids, on Route 151.
The homeless are permitted to live in these trailors rent free........all
they have to pay are the utilities. This friend of mine (Jeff Woods) is
helping out on the cleanup detail. Some of the houses are so bad from the
flooding that if you step into them, the floor will crumble and you will
end
up in the basement. Those are the houses that are going to be torn down.
The people with flood damage are being given 28000 dollars to repair their
houses; the people whose houses are damaged beyond repair are being given
an
additional 30000 or so dollars.
You are right......you don't hear anything about it on the news. It looks
like Cedar Rapids doesn't have enough money to "grease the palms" of the
news media.
It is unfortunate...................a celebrity's son or daughter gets
killed, and it is all over the news. When I lived on the west side of
Chicago in the 60s, there would be murders every week, but none of this
would ever hit the news media. Once again, unless you are some sort of
celebrity, you are considered
"insinificant" by the media.

Pete

Tragically true, that. Although I think if there was a massive loss
of life on the scale of Katrina, it *would* have gotten massive news
coverage. I think the mentality is still "if it bleeds, it leads".

But as a citizen, I'm more worried about the ability of my government
to help those who need it, in time. And again, I wonder if the
federal response was or is adequate to the scale of the emergency.

And please note, the only sense in which this disaster is much less
severe than Katrina is in loss of life. From a sheer human misery
standpoint, it's hard to imagine anything this bad. It's probably a
huge tribute to the grit and sense of everyday Iowans that this did
not turn into a much deadlier event than it has been. After all, Iowa
has the #1 education system in the country.

I doubt the credit for that goes to the federal response, but maybe
I'm wrong.





"harvey" wrote in message

...

On Jul 14, 2:37 pm, dxAce wrote:
A few pointed questions about the Iowa floods:

Where are all of the Hollywood celebrities holding telethons asking for
help in restoring Iowa and helping the folks affected by the floods?
Where is all the media asking the tough questions about why the federal
government hasn't solved the problem? Asking where the FEMA trucks (and
trailers) are?
Why isn't the Federal Government relocating Iowa people to free hotels
in Chicago ?
When will Spike Lee say that the Federal Government blew up the levees
that failed in Des Moines ?
Where are Sean Penn and the Dixie Chicks?
Where are all the looters stealing high-end tennis shoes and big screen
television sets?
When will we hear Governor Chet Culver say that he wants to rebuild a
"vanilla" Iowa , because that's the way God wants it?
Where is the hysterical 24/7 media coverage complete with reports of
cannibalism?
Where are the people declaring that George Bush hates white, rural
people?
How come in 2 weeks, you will never hear about the Iowa flooding ever
again?
(via a friend)

There are no Bodies floating around in the water ?

No Corpses sitting out in Wheelchairs in The rain ?

No Riots in large sports arenas ?

- Only part of Des Moines got flooded ?

A lot of this is due to the fact that land usage has changed,
a lot of wet lands have been plowed under for crops,
and drainage pipes put under the fields to dry them out faster,

- so when It rains the water just rushes into the nearest river.

Round these parts, they had a Huge Winter storm in the 1950's
wiping out huge areas near the coast.

- Upshot is, all the houses are built essentially on stilts, with
break away lattice covering the " below living" areas.

Always nice to build a house next to a stream or river;
- until it floods.

Things will change.. Buildings on stilts , etc.

& **** Spike Lee, he gets 12 Million per film & then cries "
Prejudice"

A Real Prick

( but a real Good Film Maker)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spike_Lee

OT) The Iowa Floods
 

On Jul 15, 1:11*pm, dxAce wrote:
wrote:
On Jul 14, 11:50 pm, Tex wrote:
On Jul 14, 1:37 pm, dxAce wrote:

A few pointed questions about the Iowa floods:

Where are all of the Hollywood celebrities holding telethons asking for
help in restoring Iowa and helping the folks affected by the floods?
Where is all the media asking the tough questions about why the federal
government hasn't solved the problem? Asking where the FEMA trucks (and
trailers) are?
Why isn't the Federal Government relocating Iowa people to free hotels
in Chicago ?
When will Spike Lee say that the Federal Government blew up the levees
that failed in Des Moines ?
Where are Sean Penn and the Dixie Chicks?
Where are all the looters stealing high-end tennis shoes and big screen
television sets?
When will we hear Governor Chet Culver say that he wants to rebuild a
"vanilla" Iowa , because that's the way God wants it?
Where is the hysterical 24/7 media coverage complete with reports of
cannibalism?
Where are the people declaring that George Bush hates white, rural
people?
How come in 2 weeks, you will never hear about the Iowa flooding ever
again?
(via a friend)

Where is Rush Limbaugh? Where is Sean Hannity? Where is Glen Beck?
Where is Bill O'Reilly? Where is Lars Larsen? Where is Mike Gallagher?
Where is every local yokel talk radio on every friggin station in
Iowa, Nebraska, South Dakota, Minnesota, Illinois, et.al. (all of whom
are CONservatives)?

I heard the Drug Addled Gasbag bloviating about this, (correctly)
praising the heroic response of Iowans, and (incorrectly) darkly
implying that the problem in Katrina was the stupid and lazy dark-
skinned people in Louisiana rather than the stupid and lazy leaders at
the very top who sat back and did nothing as a city full of people
drowned because they didn't own cars or were hospitalized or infirm.
Disgusting.

Actually it was the leaders at the bottom who sat back and did nothing,
Including the totally idiotic Mayor of New Orleans, who personifies 'dumbass'.

The ultimate responsibility for response to a major disaster is
FEMA's. This is by necessity, because few if any states have the
resources necessary to cope with a disaster of this magnitude, and it
would be ridiculous (and grossly inefficient) to expect each of the
50 states to duplicate all the equipment and infrastructure to cope
with a massive disaster.

Sorry, but you're passing the buck. The blame is squarely on Bush and
the Republican congress, which created DHS and made FEMA a subordinate
organization.
Then when a disaster hit, the President, Vice President, Chertoff as
the head of DHS, were DERELICT in their duty to oversee a coordinated
response with local and regional resources.

It's RIDICULOUS to blame the mayor of New Orleans for something that's
Bush's fault.

OT) The Iowa Floods
 

wrote:

On Jul 15, 1:11 pm, dxAce wrote:
wrote:
On Jul 14, 11:50 pm, Tex wrote:
On Jul 14, 1:37 pm, dxAce wrote:

A few pointed questions about the Iowa floods:

Where are all of the Hollywood celebrities holding telethons asking for
help in restoring Iowa and helping the folks affected by the floods?
Where is all the media asking the tough questions about why the federal
government hasn't solved the problem? Asking where the FEMA trucks (and
trailers) are?
Why isn't the Federal Government relocating Iowa people to free hotels
in Chicago ?
When will Spike Lee say that the Federal Government blew up the levees
that failed in Des Moines ?
Where are Sean Penn and the Dixie Chicks?
Where are all the looters stealing high-end tennis shoes and big screen
television sets?
When will we hear Governor Chet Culver say that he wants to rebuild a
"vanilla" Iowa , because that's the way God wants it?
Where is the hysterical 24/7 media coverage complete with reports of
cannibalism?
Where are the people declaring that George Bush hates white, rural
people?
How come in 2 weeks, you will never hear about the Iowa flooding ever
again?
(via a friend)

Where is Rush Limbaugh? Where is Sean Hannity? Where is Glen Beck?
Where is Bill O'Reilly? Where is Lars Larsen? Where is Mike Gallagher?
Where is every local yokel talk radio on every friggin station in
Iowa, Nebraska, South Dakota, Minnesota, Illinois, et.al. (all of whom
are CONservatives)?

I heard the Drug Addled Gasbag bloviating about this, (correctly)
praising the heroic response of Iowans, and (incorrectly) darkly
implying that the problem in Katrina was the stupid and lazy dark-
skinned people in Louisiana rather than the stupid and lazy leaders at
the very top who sat back and did nothing as a city full of people
drowned because they didn't own cars or were hospitalized or infirm.
Disgusting.

Actually it was the leaders at the bottom who sat back and did nothing,
Including the totally idiotic Mayor of New Orleans, who personifies 'dumbass'.

The ultimate responsibility for response to a major disaster is
FEMA's. This is by necessity, because few if any states have the
resources necessary to cope with a disaster of this magnitude, and it
would be ridiculous (and grossly inefficient) to expect each of the
50 states to duplicate all the equipment and infrastructure to cope
with a massive disaster.

Sorry, but you're passing the buck. The blame is squarely on Bush and
the Republican congress, which created DHS and made FEMA a subordinate
organization.
Then when a disaster hit, the President, Vice President, Chertoff as
the head of DHS, were DERELICT in their duty to oversee a coordinated
response with local and regional resources.

It's RIDICULOUS to blame the mayor of New Orleans for something that's
Bush's fault.

Not ridiculous at all. The dumbass mayor and the dumbass governor were derelict in
their duty.

OT) The Iowa Floods
 

dxAce wrote:


It's RIDICULOUS to blame the mayor of New Orleans for something that's
Bush's fault.

Not ridiculous at all. The dumbass mayor and the dumbass governor were derelict in
their duty.


Quit making these baseless accusations. It makes you look like a
right-wing tool

OT) The Iowa Floods
 

Dave wrote:

dxAce wrote:


It's RIDICULOUS to blame the mayor of New Orleans for something that's
Bush's fault.

Not ridiculous at all. The dumbass mayor and the dumbass governor were derelict in
their duty.


Quit making these baseless accusations. It makes you look like a
right-wing tool

Better that than a mentally ill left-winger such as yourself, Rickets.

Take your meds, boy!

OT) The Iowa Floods
 

Dave wrote:
dxAce wrote:


It's RIDICULOUS to blame the mayor of New Orleans for something that's
Bush's fault.

Not ridiculous at all. The dumbass mayor and the dumbass governor were
derelict in
their duty.


Quit making these baseless accusations. It makes you look like a
right-wing tool


It's you who're making baseless accusations.

FEMA trucks were at the staging area 48 hours before Katrina hit New
Orleans. Bush was on the phone 48 hours before the storm hit with both
Kathleen Blanco and Ray Nagin asking, and then begging, to let the
trucks into New Orleans to being the evacuations. (FEMA has to have
local permission in order to roll.) He specifically cited the levees as
a reason to let him help before the storm had hit, because the Corps of
Engineers had said decades ago that the levees were insufficient to
withstand a category 5 storm. Something that Louisiana had known as well.

They knew it because federal funds had been released specifically for
shoring up the levees years before, and the Governor and City
administrations had spent the money on other things. Like improving the
blocks around the Casino boats.

Both Blanco AND Nagin refused Federal assistance with the evacuation.

After the storm had begun, FEMA trucks were STILL turned away from
New Orleans by Louisiana National Guard soldiers.

Even while Ray Nagin was crying on TV for assistance, FEMA Trucks
were being turned away.

It wasn't until the damage had been done that FEMA trucks were
finally permitted into the City.

All of this is on the record. It was reported, albeit quietly, by
mainstream press, and then quickly buried.

And as long as I'm here, the noise about shootings at rescue and
airlift helicopters after the storm....didn't happen.

I was on one of them for more than a week.

OT) The Iowa Floods
 

D Peter Maus wrote:

Dave wrote:
dxAce wrote:


It's RIDICULOUS to blame the mayor of New Orleans for something that's
Bush's fault.

Not ridiculous at all. The dumbass mayor and the dumbass governor were
derelict in
their duty.


Quit making these baseless accusations. It makes you look like a
right-wing tool

It's you who're making baseless accusations.

FEMA trucks were at the staging area 48 hours before Katrina hit New
Orleans. Bush was on the phone 48 hours before the storm hit with both
Kathleen Blanco and Ray Nagin asking, and then begging, to let the
trucks into New Orleans to being the evacuations. (FEMA has to have
local permission in order to roll.) He specifically cited the levees as
a reason to let him help before the storm had hit, because the Corps of
Engineers had said decades ago that the levees were insufficient to
withstand a category 5 storm. Something that Louisiana had known as well.

They knew it because federal funds had been released specifically for
shoring up the levees years before, and the Governor and City
administrations had spent the money on other things. Like improving the
blocks around the Casino boats.

Both Blanco AND Nagin refused Federal assistance with the evacuation.

After the storm had begun, FEMA trucks were STILL turned away from
New Orleans by Louisiana National Guard soldiers.

Even while Ray Nagin was crying on TV for assistance, FEMA Trucks
were being turned away.

It wasn't until the damage had been done that FEMA trucks were
finally permitted into the City.

All of this is on the record. It was reported, albeit quietly, by
mainstream press, and then quickly buried.

And as long as I'm here, the noise about shootings at rescue and
airlift helicopters after the storm....didn't happen.

I was on one of them for more than a week.

DP, it's always difficult to convince those with a 'Pancho' mentality, but good
luck.

OT) The Iowa Floods
 

dxAce wrote:

D Peter Maus wrote:

Dave wrote:
dxAce wrote:

It's RIDICULOUS to blame the mayor of New Orleans for something that's
Bush's fault.
Not ridiculous at all. The dumbass mayor and the dumbass governor were
derelict in
their duty.


Quit making these baseless accusations. It makes you look like a
right-wing tool
It's you who're making baseless accusations.

FEMA trucks were at the staging area 48 hours before Katrina hit New
Orleans. Bush was on the phone 48 hours before the storm hit with both
Kathleen Blanco and Ray Nagin asking, and then begging, to let the
trucks into New Orleans to being the evacuations. (FEMA has to have
local permission in order to roll.) He specifically cited the levees as
a reason to let him help before the storm had hit, because the Corps of
Engineers had said decades ago that the levees were insufficient to
withstand a category 5 storm. Something that Louisiana had known as well.

They knew it because federal funds had been released specifically for
shoring up the levees years before, and the Governor and City
administrations had spent the money on other things. Like improving the
blocks around the Casino boats.

Both Blanco AND Nagin refused Federal assistance with the evacuation.

After the storm had begun, FEMA trucks were STILL turned away from
New Orleans by Louisiana National Guard soldiers.

Even while Ray Nagin was crying on TV for assistance, FEMA Trucks
were being turned away.

It wasn't until the damage had been done that FEMA trucks were
finally permitted into the City.

All of this is on the record. It was reported, albeit quietly, by
mainstream press, and then quickly buried.

And as long as I'm here, the noise about shootings at rescue and
airlift helicopters after the storm....didn't happen.

I was on one of them for more than a week.

DP, it's always difficult to convince those with a 'Pancho' mentality, but good
luck.



Yeah....

OT) The Iowa Floods
 

On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 09:07:10 -0400, dxAce wrote:


Quit making these baseless accusations. It makes you look like a
right-wing tool

Better that than a mentally ill left-winger such as yourself, Rickets.

Take your meds, boy!

I may be "mentally challenged" but I can back-up most of what I say,
unlike your self.

OT) The Iowa Floods
 

Dave wrote:

On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 09:07:10 -0400, dxAce wrote:

Quit making these baseless accusations. It makes you look like a
right-wing tool

Better that than a mentally ill left-winger such as yourself, Rickets.

Take your meds, boy!

I may be "mentally challenged" but I can back-up most of what I say,
unlike your self.

Hogwash, Rickets. You are merely a mentally ill, bloviating left-winger.

Now go take your noon-time meds.

OT) The Iowa Floods
 

On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 13:59:05 +0000, D Peter Maus wrote:

Dave wrote:
dxAce wrote:


It's RIDICULOUS to blame the mayor of New Orleans for something
that's Bush's fault.

Not ridiculous at all. The dumbass mayor and the dumbass governor were
derelict in
their duty.


Quit making these baseless accusations. It makes you look like a
right-wing tool


It's you who're making baseless accusations.

FEMA trucks were at the staging area 48 hours before Katrina hit New
Orleans. Bush was on the phone 48 hours before the storm hit with both
Kathleen Blanco and Ray Nagin asking, and then begging, to let the
trucks into New Orleans to being the evacuations. (FEMA has to have
local permission in order to roll.) He specifically cited the levees as
a reason to let him help before the storm had hit, because the Corps of
Engineers had said decades ago that the levees were insufficient to
withstand a category 5 storm. Something that Louisiana had known as
well.

They knew it because federal funds had been released specifically for
shoring up the levees years before, and the Governor and City
administrations had spent the money on other things. Like improving the
blocks around the Casino boats.

Both Blanco AND Nagin refused Federal assistance with the evacuation.

After the storm had begun, FEMA trucks were STILL turned away from
New Orleans by Louisiana National Guard soldiers.

Even while Ray Nagin was crying on TV for assistance, FEMA Trucks
were being turned away.

It wasn't until the damage had been done that FEMA trucks were
finally permitted into the City.

All of this is on the record. It was reported, albeit quietly, by
mainstream press, and then quickly buried.

Then it should be very easy to provide a link to these accounts. I read
the Times-Picayune throughout the incident and remember no such events.

On the other hand:

"As Katrina threatened the Gulf Coast, Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco
issued a state of emergency on Aug. 26 and on Aug. 28 sent a letter to
President Bush requesting a disaster declaration for the state in order
to release federal assistance.

"I have determined that this incident will be of such severity and
magnitude that effective response will be beyond the capabilities of the
state and affected local governments and that supplementary federal
assistance will be necessary," Blanco wrote in her letter.

The letter had to travel through points in FEMA before the federal
government could respond. FEMA deployed regional responders before
Katrina made landfall, but a major federal response wasn't evident until
days later. The hurricane crippled many state and local emergency
agencies in Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama leaving them unable to
respond without federal help.

"What happened was that essentially, the demolishment of that state and
local infrastructure, and I think that really caused the cascading series
of breakdown," said DHS Secretary Michael Chertoff in a New York Times
interview.

President Bush and FEMA Director BrownFrom the local level, officials
complained of communication breakdowns and the lack of leadership from
the federal government, particularly from FEMA Director Michael Brown.
Reports of FEMA turning down personnel and supplies offered by police
forces and emergency crews further drew fire from Congress and others who
said the agency failed to respond adequately.

On Sept. 9, 2005, Chertoff pulled Brown from the role of managing
Hurricane Katrina relief efforts.

Blanco's office blamed bureaucracy and layers of red tape for blocking an
effective emergency effort.

"We wanted helicopters, food and water. They wanted to negotiate an
organizational chart," Blanco's press secretary Denise Bottcher told the
New York Times.

The delayed federal response prompted politicians to question FEMA's
organization and leadership."

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/weath...dec05/katrina/
fema_background.html

OT) The Iowa Floods
 

Dave wrote:

On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 13:59:05 +0000, D Peter Maus wrote:

Dave wrote:
dxAce wrote:


It's RIDICULOUS to blame the mayor of New Orleans for something
that's Bush's fault.

Not ridiculous at all. The dumbass mayor and the dumbass governor were
derelict in
their duty.


Quit making these baseless accusations. It makes you look like a
right-wing tool


It's you who're making baseless accusations.

FEMA trucks were at the staging area 48 hours before Katrina hit New
Orleans. Bush was on the phone 48 hours before the storm hit with both
Kathleen Blanco and Ray Nagin asking, and then begging, to let the
trucks into New Orleans to being the evacuations. (FEMA has to have
local permission in order to roll.) He specifically cited the levees as
a reason to let him help before the storm had hit, because the Corps of
Engineers had said decades ago that the levees were insufficient to
withstand a category 5 storm. Something that Louisiana had known as
well.

They knew it because federal funds had been released specifically for
shoring up the levees years before, and the Governor and City
administrations had spent the money on other things. Like improving the
blocks around the Casino boats.

Both Blanco AND Nagin refused Federal assistance with the evacuation.

After the storm had begun, FEMA trucks were STILL turned away from
New Orleans by Louisiana National Guard soldiers.

Even while Ray Nagin was crying on TV for assistance, FEMA Trucks
were being turned away.

It wasn't until the damage had been done that FEMA trucks were
finally permitted into the City.

All of this is on the record. It was reported, albeit quietly, by
mainstream press, and then quickly buried.

Then it should be very easy to provide a link to these accounts. I read
the Times-Picayune throughout the incident and remember no such events.

On the other hand:

"As Katrina threatened the Gulf Coast, Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco
issued a state of emergency on Aug. 26 and on Aug. 28 sent a letter to
President Bush requesting a disaster declaration for the state in order
to release federal assistance.

"I have determined that this incident will be of such severity and
magnitude that effective response will be beyond the capabilities of the
state and affected local governments and that supplementary federal
assistance will be necessary," Blanco wrote in her letter.

The letter had to travel through points in FEMA before the federal
government could respond. FEMA deployed regional responders before
Katrina made landfall, but a major federal response wasn't evident until
days later. The hurricane crippled many state and local emergency
agencies in Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama leaving them unable to
respond without federal help.

"What happened was that essentially, the demolishment of that state and
local infrastructure, and I think that really caused the cascading series
of breakdown," said DHS Secretary Michael Chertoff in a New York Times
interview.

President Bush and FEMA Director BrownFrom the local level, officials
complained of communication breakdowns and the lack of leadership from
the federal government, particularly from FEMA Director Michael Brown.
Reports of FEMA turning down personnel and supplies offered by police
forces and emergency crews further drew fire from Congress and others who
said the agency failed to respond adequately.

On Sept. 9, 2005, Chertoff pulled Brown from the role of managing
Hurricane Katrina relief efforts.

Blanco's office blamed bureaucracy and layers of red tape for blocking an
effective emergency effort.

"We wanted helicopters, food and water. They wanted to negotiate an
organizational chart," Blanco's press secretary Denise Bottcher told the
New York Times.

The delayed federal response prompted politicians to question FEMA's
organization and leadership."

Which politicians? Dumbass Liberal Democrat politicians?

Meanwhile, the rest of us knew that it was the dumbass mayor of New Orleans and
the dumbass governor of Louisiana who were at fault, you mentally ill idiot.

Now instead of flapping your jaws here it'd be best if you simply went and took
your meds, Rickets.

OT) The Iowa Floods
 

Dave wrote:
On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 13:59:05 +0000, D Peter Maus wrote:

Dave wrote:
dxAce wrote:


It's RIDICULOUS to blame the mayor of New Orleans for something
that's Bush's fault.
Not ridiculous at all. The dumbass mayor and the dumbass governor were
derelict in
their duty.


Quit making these baseless accusations. It makes you look like a
right-wing tool

It's you who're making baseless accusations.

FEMA trucks were at the staging area 48 hours before Katrina hit New
Orleans. Bush was on the phone 48 hours before the storm hit with both
Kathleen Blanco and Ray Nagin asking, and then begging, to let the
trucks into New Orleans to being the evacuations. (FEMA has to have
local permission in order to roll.) He specifically cited the levees as
a reason to let him help before the storm had hit, because the Corps of
Engineers had said decades ago that the levees were insufficient to
withstand a category 5 storm. Something that Louisiana had known as
well.

They knew it because federal funds had been released specifically for
shoring up the levees years before, and the Governor and City
administrations had spent the money on other things. Like improving the
blocks around the Casino boats.

Both Blanco AND Nagin refused Federal assistance with the evacuation.

After the storm had begun, FEMA trucks were STILL turned away from
New Orleans by Louisiana National Guard soldiers.

Even while Ray Nagin was crying on TV for assistance, FEMA Trucks
were being turned away.

It wasn't until the damage had been done that FEMA trucks were
finally permitted into the City.

All of this is on the record. It was reported, albeit quietly, by
mainstream press, and then quickly buried.

Then it should be very easy to provide a link to these accounts. I read
the Times-Picayune throughout the incident and remember no such events.

On the other hand:

"As Katrina threatened the Gulf Coast, Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco
issued a state of emergency on Aug. 26 and on Aug. 28 sent a letter to
President Bush requesting a disaster declaration for the state in order
to release federal assistance.

"I have determined that this incident will be of such severity and
magnitude that effective response will be beyond the capabilities of the
state and affected local governments and that supplementary federal
assistance will be necessary," Blanco wrote in her letter.

The letter had to travel through points in FEMA before the federal
government could respond. FEMA deployed regional responders before
Katrina made landfall, but a major federal response wasn't evident until
days later. The hurricane crippled many state and local emergency
agencies in Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama leaving them unable to
respond without federal help.

"What happened was that essentially, the demolishment of that state and
local infrastructure, and I think that really caused the cascading series
of breakdown," said DHS Secretary Michael Chertoff in a New York Times
interview.

President Bush and FEMA Director BrownFrom the local level, officials
complained of communication breakdowns and the lack of leadership from
the federal government, particularly from FEMA Director Michael Brown.
Reports of FEMA turning down personnel and supplies offered by police
forces and emergency crews further drew fire from Congress and others who
said the agency failed to respond adequately.

On Sept. 9, 2005, Chertoff pulled Brown from the role of managing
Hurricane Katrina relief efforts.

Blanco's office blamed bureaucracy and layers of red tape for blocking an
effective emergency effort.

"We wanted helicopters, food and water. They wanted to negotiate an
organizational chart," Blanco's press secretary Denise Bottcher told the
New York Times.

The delayed federal response prompted politicians to question FEMA's
organization and leadership."

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/weath...dec05/katrina/
fema_background.html





Like I said. I was there. Blanco's press release directly conflicts
with the facts.

OT) The Iowa Floods
 

dxAce wrote:

you mentally ill idiot.


Did you get the vibrating condom information Burr sent you?
Would you like me to repost his message to you?



mike

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OT) The Iowa Floods
 

m II wrote:

dxAce wrote:

you mentally ill idiot.

Did you get the vibrating condom information Burr sent you?
Would you like me to repost his message to you?

Yeah, go ahead, you drooling idiot. Entertain me some more with your dumbass
Canuck antics!

OT) The Iowa Floods
 

m II wrote:

dxAce, proud vibrating condom owner, wrote:

Yeah, go ahead, you drooling idiot.

Hope you enjoy the vibrating condoms as much as Burr does.
As per your request, here is your entertainment:

You're still drooling boy!

LMFAO at the mentally ill Canuck.

Grab that shine box, it's still daylight!

The 'Stan really must suck, 'tis a pity. Complain to Ottawa!

OT) The Iowa Floods
 

You know better than to present facts to these guys!

D Peter Maus wrote:
Dave wrote:
On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 13:59:05 +0000, D Peter Maus wrote:

Dave wrote:
dxAce wrote:


It's RIDICULOUS to blame the mayor of New Orleans for something
that's Bush's fault.
Not ridiculous at all. The dumbass mayor and the dumbass governor were
derelict in
their duty.


Quit making these baseless accusations. It makes you look like a
right-wing tool

It's you who're making baseless accusations.

FEMA trucks were at the staging area 48 hours before Katrina hit New
Orleans. Bush was on the phone 48 hours before the storm hit with both
Kathleen Blanco and Ray Nagin asking, and then begging, to let the
trucks into New Orleans to being the evacuations. (FEMA has to have
local permission in order to roll.) He specifically cited the levees as
a reason to let him help before the storm had hit, because the Corps of
Engineers had said decades ago that the levees were insufficient to
withstand a category 5 storm. Something that Louisiana had known as
well.

They knew it because federal funds had been released specifically for
shoring up the levees years before, and the Governor and City
administrations had spent the money on other things. Like improving the
blocks around the Casino boats.

Both Blanco AND Nagin refused Federal assistance with the evacuation.

After the storm had begun, FEMA trucks were STILL turned away from
New Orleans by Louisiana National Guard soldiers.

Even while Ray Nagin was crying on TV for assistance, FEMA Trucks
were being turned away.

It wasn't until the damage had been done that FEMA trucks were
finally permitted into the City.

All of this is on the record. It was reported, albeit quietly, by
mainstream press, and then quickly buried.

Then it should be very easy to provide a link to these accounts. I
read the Times-Picayune throughout the incident and remember no such
events.

On the other hand:

"As Katrina threatened the Gulf Coast, Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco
issued a state of emergency on Aug. 26 and on Aug. 28 sent a letter to
President Bush requesting a disaster declaration for the state in
order to release federal assistance.

"I have determined that this incident will be of such severity and
magnitude that effective response will be beyond the capabilities of
the state and affected local governments and that supplementary
federal assistance will be necessary," Blanco wrote in her letter.

The letter had to travel through points in FEMA before the federal
government could respond. FEMA deployed regional responders before
Katrina made landfall, but a major federal response wasn't evident
until days later. The hurricane crippled many state and local
emergency agencies in Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama leaving them
unable to respond without federal help.

"What happened was that essentially, the demolishment of that state
and local infrastructure, and I think that really caused the cascading
series of breakdown," said DHS Secretary Michael Chertoff in a New
York Times interview.

President Bush and FEMA Director BrownFrom the local level, officials
complained of communication breakdowns and the lack of leadership from
the federal government, particularly from FEMA Director Michael Brown.
Reports of FEMA turning down personnel and supplies offered by police
forces and emergency crews further drew fire from Congress and others
who said the agency failed to respond adequately.

On Sept. 9, 2005, Chertoff pulled Brown from the role of managing
Hurricane Katrina relief efforts.

Blanco's office blamed bureaucracy and layers of red tape for blocking
an effective emergency effort.

"We wanted helicopters, food and water. They wanted to negotiate an
organizational chart," Blanco's press secretary Denise Bottcher told
the New York Times.

The delayed federal response prompted politicians to question FEMA's
organization and leadership."

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/weath...dec05/katrina/
fema_background.html





Like I said. I was there. Blanco's press release directly conflicts
with the facts.

OT) The Iowa Floods
 

ka6uup wrote:

You know better than to present facts to these guys!

You be speaking the truth!



D Peter Maus wrote:
Dave wrote:
On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 13:59:05 +0000, D Peter Maus wrote:

Dave wrote:
dxAce wrote:


It's RIDICULOUS to blame the mayor of New Orleans for something
that's Bush's fault.
Not ridiculous at all. The dumbass mayor and the dumbass governor were
derelict in
their duty.


Quit making these baseless accusations. It makes you look like a
right-wing tool

It's you who're making baseless accusations.

FEMA trucks were at the staging area 48 hours before Katrina hit New
Orleans. Bush was on the phone 48 hours before the storm hit with both
Kathleen Blanco and Ray Nagin asking, and then begging, to let the
trucks into New Orleans to being the evacuations. (FEMA has to have
local permission in order to roll.) He specifically cited the levees as
a reason to let him help before the storm had hit, because the Corps of
Engineers had said decades ago that the levees were insufficient to
withstand a category 5 storm. Something that Louisiana had known as
well.

They knew it because federal funds had been released specifically for
shoring up the levees years before, and the Governor and City
administrations had spent the money on other things. Like improving the
blocks around the Casino boats.

Both Blanco AND Nagin refused Federal assistance with the evacuation.

After the storm had begun, FEMA trucks were STILL turned away from
New Orleans by Louisiana National Guard soldiers.

Even while Ray Nagin was crying on TV for assistance, FEMA Trucks
were being turned away.

It wasn't until the damage had been done that FEMA trucks were
finally permitted into the City.

All of this is on the record. It was reported, albeit quietly, by
mainstream press, and then quickly buried.

Then it should be very easy to provide a link to these accounts. I
read the Times-Picayune throughout the incident and remember no such
events.

On the other hand:

"As Katrina threatened the Gulf Coast, Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco
issued a state of emergency on Aug. 26 and on Aug. 28 sent a letter to
President Bush requesting a disaster declaration for the state in
order to release federal assistance.

"I have determined that this incident will be of such severity and
magnitude that effective response will be beyond the capabilities of
the state and affected local governments and that supplementary
federal assistance will be necessary," Blanco wrote in her letter.

The letter had to travel through points in FEMA before the federal
government could respond. FEMA deployed regional responders before
Katrina made landfall, but a major federal response wasn't evident
until days later. The hurricane crippled many state and local
emergency agencies in Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama leaving them
unable to respond without federal help.

"What happened was that essentially, the demolishment of that state
and local infrastructure, and I think that really caused the cascading
series of breakdown," said DHS Secretary Michael Chertoff in a New
York Times interview.

President Bush and FEMA Director BrownFrom the local level, officials
complained of communication breakdowns and the lack of leadership from
the federal government, particularly from FEMA Director Michael Brown.
Reports of FEMA turning down personnel and supplies offered by police
forces and emergency crews further drew fire from Congress and others
who said the agency failed to respond adequately.

On Sept. 9, 2005, Chertoff pulled Brown from the role of managing
Hurricane Katrina relief efforts.

Blanco's office blamed bureaucracy and layers of red tape for blocking
an effective emergency effort.

"We wanted helicopters, food and water. They wanted to negotiate an
organizational chart," Blanco's press secretary Denise Bottcher told
the New York Times.

The delayed federal response prompted politicians to question FEMA's
organization and leadership."

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/weath...dec05/katrina/
fema_background.html





Like I said. I was there. Blanco's press release directly conflicts
with the facts.

OT) The Iowa Floods
 

dxAce, soon to be a proud vibrating condom owner, wrote:

The 'Stan really must suck, 'tis a pity.


The only sucking Stan I'm aware is in your bedroom, pervert.
Will you be ordering those vibrating condoms that Burr recommended to
you yesterday?




mike


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OT) The Iowa Floods
 

In article
,
wrote:

On Jul 15, 1:11*pm, dxAce wrote:
wrote:
On Jul 14, 11:50 pm, Tex wrote:
On Jul 14, 1:37 pm, dxAce wrote:

A few pointed questions about the Iowa floods:

Where are all of the Hollywood celebrities holding telethons asking
for
help in restoring Iowa and helping the folks affected by the floods?
Where is all the media asking the tough questions about why the
federal
government hasn't solved the problem? Asking where the FEMA trucks
(and
trailers) are?
Why isn't the Federal Government relocating Iowa people to free
hotels
in Chicago ?
When will Spike Lee say that the Federal Government blew up the
levees
that failed in Des Moines ?
Where are Sean Penn and the Dixie Chicks?
Where are all the looters stealing high-end tennis shoes and big
screen
television sets?
When will we hear Governor Chet Culver say that he wants to rebuild a
"vanilla" Iowa , because that's the way God wants it?
Where is the hysterical 24/7 media coverage complete with reports of
cannibalism?
Where are the people declaring that George Bush hates white, rural
people?
How come in 2 weeks, you will never hear about the Iowa flooding ever
again?
(via a friend)

Where is Rush Limbaugh? Where is Sean Hannity? Where is Glen Beck?
Where is Bill O'Reilly? Where is Lars Larsen? Where is Mike Gallagher?
Where is every local yokel talk radio on every friggin station in
Iowa, Nebraska, South Dakota, Minnesota, Illinois, et.al. (all of whom
are CONservatives)?

I heard the Drug Addled Gasbag bloviating about this, (correctly)
praising the heroic response of Iowans, and (incorrectly) darkly
implying that the problem in Katrina was the stupid and lazy dark-
skinned people in Louisiana rather than the stupid and lazy leaders at
the very top who sat back and did nothing as a city full of people
drowned because they didn't own cars or were hospitalized or infirm.
Disgusting.

Actually it was the leaders at the bottom who sat back and did nothing,
Including the totally idiotic Mayor of New Orleans, who personifies
'dumbass'.

The ultimate responsibility for response to a major disaster is
FEMA's.

SNIP

Personally I think this kind of dependancy is very Darwinistic at best.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

OT) The Iowa Floods
 

In article ,
dxAce wrote:

wrote:

On Jul 15, 1:11 pm, dxAce wrote:
wrote:
On Jul 14, 11:50 pm, Tex wrote:
On Jul 14, 1:37 pm, dxAce wrote:

A few pointed questions about the Iowa floods:

Where are all of the Hollywood celebrities holding
telethons asking for help in restoring Iowa and helping the
folks affected by the floods? Where is all the media asking
the tough questions about why the federal government hasn't
solved the problem? Asking where the FEMA trucks (and
trailers) are? Why isn't the Federal Government relocating
Iowa people to free hotels in Chicago ? When will Spike Lee
say that the Federal Government blew up the levees that
failed in Des Moines ? Where are Sean Penn and the Dixie
Chicks? Where are all the looters stealing high-end tennis
shoes and big screen television sets? When will we hear
Governor Chet Culver say that he wants to rebuild a
"vanilla" Iowa , because that's the way God wants it? Where
is the hysterical 24/7 media coverage complete with reports
of cannibalism? Where are the people declaring that George
Bush hates white, rural people? How come in 2 weeks, you
will never hear about the Iowa flooding ever again? (via a
friend)

Where is Rush Limbaugh? Where is Sean Hannity? Where is Glen
Beck? Where is Bill O'Reilly? Where is Lars Larsen? Where is
Mike Gallagher? Where is every local yokel talk radio on
every friggin station in Iowa, Nebraska, South Dakota,
Minnesota, Illinois, et.al. (all of whom are CONservatives)?

I heard the Drug Addled Gasbag bloviating about this,
(correctly) praising the heroic response of Iowans, and
(incorrectly) darkly implying that the problem in Katrina was
the stupid and lazy dark- skinned people in Louisiana rather
than the stupid and lazy leaders at the very top who sat back
and did nothing as a city full of people drowned because they
didn't own cars or were hospitalized or infirm. Disgusting.

Actually it was the leaders at the bottom who sat back and did
nothing, Including the totally idiotic Mayor of New Orleans, who
personifies 'dumbass'.

The ultimate responsibility for response to a major disaster is
FEMA's. This is by necessity, because few if any states have the
resources necessary to cope with a disaster of this magnitude, and
it would be ridiculous (and grossly inefficient) to expect each of
the 50 states to duplicate all the equipment and infrastructure to
cope with a massive disaster.

Sorry, but you're passing the buck. The blame is squarely on Bush
and the Republican congress, which created DHS and made FEMA a
subordinate organization. Then when a disaster hit, the President,
Vice President, Chertoff as the head of DHS, were DERELICT in their
duty to oversee a coordinated response with local and regional
resources.

It's RIDICULOUS to blame the mayor of New Orleans for something
that's Bush's fault.

Not ridiculous at all. The dumbass mayor and the dumbass governor
were derelict in their duty.

They sure did not act as leaders. It was their moment to rise to the
occasion and they failed miserably.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

OT) The Iowa Floods
 

In article ,
Dave wrote:

dxAce wrote:


It's RIDICULOUS to blame the mayor of New Orleans for something that's
Bush's fault.

Not ridiculous at all. The dumbass mayor and the dumbass governor were
derelict in
their duty.


Quit making these baseless accusations. It makes you look like a
right-wing tool

Quit being a zonked out ranter in RRS.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

OT) The Iowa Floods
 

m II wrote:

dxAce, soon to be a proud vibrating condom owner, wrote:

The 'Stan really must suck, 'tis a pity.

The only sucking Stan I'm aware is in your bedroom, pervert.
Will you be ordering those vibrating condoms that Burr recommended to
you yesterday?

Keep making me laugh, you mentally ill dumbass!

OT) The Iowa Floods
 

Telamon wrote:

The ultimate responsibility for response to a major disaster is
FEMA's.

SNIP

Personally I think this kind of dependancy is very Darwinistic at best.

Hopefully it IS Darwinistic. The alternatives are Divine intervention or
Intelligent design, neither of which is in any way helping the bureaucracy.



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OT) The Iowa Floods
 

dxAce, vibrating condom owner wanna-be, wrote:

Keep making me laugh, you mentally ill dumbass!


Laughing? I'm afraid that's the nitrous oxide bottle you perverts use in
your bedroom debacles. Still spitting Bill Guinness out of your mouth?
Welfare cheque arrive on time? Will it buy the vibrating condoms
recommended to you by Burr?

So many questions, so little in the way of intelligent response.




mike


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OT) The Iowa Floods
 

dxAce wrote:


Meanwhile, the rest of us knew that it was the dumbass mayor of New Orleans and
the dumbass governor of Louisiana who were at fault, you mentally ill idiot.

Now instead of flapping your jaws here it'd be best if you simply went and took
your meds, Rickets.


All I'm asking for is a credible news service telling your version of
the story. Otherwise I'll have to continue to be skeptical of what the
bubble-puppies around here proclaim.

OT) The Iowa Floods
 

D Peter Maus wrote:





Like I said. I was there. Blanco's press release directly conflicts
with the facts.


Ever hear the expression "can't see the forest for the trees"?

Issued by Louisiana Governor's Office
"Press Release
Date: 8/27/2005 [Saturday]
Contact:Denise Bottcher or Roderick Hawkins at 225-342-9037

Governor Blanco asks President to Declare an Emergency for the State of
Louisiana due to Hurricane Katrina

BATON ROUGE—Today Governor Kathleen Babineaux Blanco forwarded a letter
to President Bush requesting that he declare an emergency for the State
of Louisiana due to Hurricane Katrina. The full text of the letter follows:

August 27, 2005
The President
The White House
Washington, D. C.

Through:
Regional Director
FEMA Region VI
800 North Loop 288
Denton, Texas 76209

Dear Mr. President:

Under the provisions of Section 501 (a) of the Robert T. Stafford
Disaster Relief and Emergency Assistance Act, 42 U.S.C. §§ 5121-5206
(Stafford Act), and implemented by 44 CFR § 206.35, I request that you
declare an emergency for the State of Louisiana due to Hurricane Katrina
for the time period beginning August 26, 2005, and continuing. The
affected areas are all the southeastern parishes including the New
Orleans Metropolitan area and the mid state Interstate I-49 corridor and
northern parishes along the I-20 corridor that are accepting the
thousands of citizens evacuating from the areas expecting to be flooded
as a result of Hurricane Katrina.

In response to the situation I have taken appropriate action under State
law and directed the execution of the State Emergency Plan on August 26,
2005 in accordance with Section 501 (a) of the Stafford Act. A State of
Emergency has been issued for the State in order to support the
evacuations of the coastal areas in accordance with our State Evacuation
Plan and the remainder of the state to support the State Special Needs
and Sheltering Plan.

Pursuant to 44 CFR § 206.35, I have determined that this incident is of
such severity and magnitude that effective response is beyond the
capabilities of the State and affected local governments, and that
supplementary Federal assistance is necessary to save lives, protect
property, public health, and safety, or to lessen or avert the threat of
a disaster. I am specifically requesting emergency protective measures,
direct Federal Assistance, Individual and Household Program (IHP)
assistance, Special Needs Program assistance, and debris removal.

Preliminary estimates of the types and amount of emergency assistance
needed under the Stafford Act, and emergency assistance from certain
Federal agencies under other statutory authorities are tabulated in
Enclosure A.

The following information is furnished on the nature and amount of State
and local resources that have been or will be used to alleviate the
conditions of this emergency:

• Department of Social Services (DSS): Opening (3) Special Need Shelters
(SNS) and establishing (3) on Standby.

• Department of Health and Hospitals (DHH): Opening (3) Shelters and
establishing (3) on Standby.

• Office of Homeland Security and Emergency Preparedness (OHSEP):
Providing generators and support staff for SNS and Public Shelters.

• Louisiana State Police (LSP): Providing support for the phased
evacuation of the coastal areas.

• Louisiana Department of Wildlife and Fisheries (WLF): Supporting the
evacuation of the affected population and preparing for Search and
Rescue Missions.

• Louisiana Department of Transportation and Development (DOTD):
Coordinating traffic flow and management of the evacuations routes with
local officials and the State of Mississippi.

The following information is furnished on efforts and resources of other
Federal agencies, which have been or will be used in responding to this
incident:

• FEMA ERT-A Team en-route.

I certify that for this emergency, the State and local governments will
assume all applicable non-Federal share of costs required by the
Stafford Act.

I request Direct Federal assistance for work and services to save lives
and protect property.

(a) List any reasons State and local government cannot perform or
contract for performance, (if applicable).

(b) Specify the type of assistance requested.

In accordance with 44 CFR § 206.208, the State of Louisiana agrees that
it will, with respect to Direct Federal assistance:

1. Provide without cost to the United States all lands, easement, and
rights-of-ways necessary to accomplish the approved work.

2. Hold and save the United States free from damages due to the
requested work, and shall indemnify the Federal Government against any
claims arising from such work;

3. Provide reimbursement to FEMA for the non-Federal share of the cost
of such work in accordance with the provisions of the FEMA-State
Agreement; and

4. Assist the performing Federal agency in all support and local
jurisdictional matters.

In addition, I anticipate the need for debris removal, which poses an
immediate threat to lives, public health, and safety.

Pursuant to Sections 502 and 407 of the Stafford Act, 42 U.S.C. §§ 5192
& 5173, the State agrees to indemnify and hold harmless the United
States of America for any claims arising from the removal of debris or
wreckage for this disaster. The State agrees that debris removal from
public and private property will not occur until the landowner signs an
unconditional authorization for the removal of debris.

I have designated Mr. Art Jones as the State Coordinating Officer for
this request. He will work with the Federal Emergency Management Agency
in damage assessments and may provide further information or
justification on my behalf.

Sincerely,
Kathleen Babineaux Blanco
Governor
Enclosure

OT) The Iowa Floods
 

Telamon wrote:


They sure did not act as leaders. It was their moment to rise to the
occasion and they failed miserably.


This is right-wing neoliberal propaganda, and you morons eat it up,
rather than face the unsettling reality that you are being manipulated.