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On Jul 25, 5:13*pm, mpd wrote:
I've listened to shortwave on and off for awhile but it seems to me
that some of the build quality these days isn't that long.

I had a grundig s350...lasted until I donated it but it had drift...

I tried a redsun 2100...the thing died after the first month...so I
bought the USA equivalent of the kaito ka2100...that just died the
other day (lasted a year and a half)

I had a kaito 1103 worked fantastic until I bumped something and a
chunk of the antenna snapped off and the job dial didn't fully
correspond.

Don't get me wrong when this stuff worked it was great...but there's
some newer models I'm interested in.

I don't need stuff like wefax or rtty etc. I like SSB as I can listen
to ham's...I'd like to start recording too. I know there's a Degen but
the operations of that thing look so complicated and it's degen...if
it breaks...

I'm thinking maybe a grundig g6...adding the aircraft band is
interesting...the G4 looks interesting but I didn't see anything of
SSB so it looks like $100 more just to record.

Anyone use those portible recorders that could work on the line in? I
definatly don't want to use tapes...


Well, you might have to buy an older model, well built perhaps. Or buy
a newer one but get a good protective case for it and take really good
care of it.
I own a Sony ICF-2002, (the same as the ICF-7600D, only difference
is one was for Euope, the other for North America). I purchased the
radio new in the early '80s when it came out. I've taken good care of
it and it still has nothing wrong with it and runs like brand new. Was
I just lucky? Perhaps. But it is a great radio and I've certainly
gotten my money's worth from it. Sorry, not for sale.
Try to find a good used one and buy it perhaps.
Here is some info.. http://stephan.win31.de/sony7600.htm
I also own a Panasonic RF2200. The volume adjustment started
souinding scratchy and I had to open it up and use canned air and
contact cleaner, and it fell and the whip antenna connection broke.
But it still works. Great radio.

My Kaito KA1102 I bought when they first came out, how many years
ago? Five? Not sure. I went to Wal-Mart here in Canada and found a
perfect protective case for it. It's a Nintendo DS case that zips
closed and fits it like it was made for it. Like a glove. With some
room for an extra set of recharegeable batteries and it's manual and a
Degen active loop.
he case has just the right amount of padding for protection, and is
really well made.
My Kaito KA1102 still works like brand new. I love that little
radio. I also own a Kaito KA11 that I bought a well fitting cell phone
case for. Padded protection and room for an extra set of rechargeables
and its fold up wire antenna..

My case for my KA11 is made by Lowepro. I also bought one that fits
my handheld GPSr. They make cases in various sizes, and they are well
made to take a beating and hold up just fine. All I added was a dome
fastener to the outside pocket flap in addition to the velcro already
there. I found a dome fastener kit, and it easy to add one and it
looks like that is the way it was made.
www.lowepro.com
No.. I don't work for them. I just think they make a great product.
I hate the flimsy cheap fabric bags that they give you for these
radios.
So.. I don't know if I am just lucky, or if it is the great care I
take with my good radios. I have other radios, and I'm happy with my
Eton E100 and a couple others..
But I really think that extra care and protection, and cleanliness
goes a long way to making things last.

Good luck.

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On Jul 25, 5:13*pm, mpd wrote:
I've listened to shortwave on and off for awhile but it seems to me
that some of the build quality these days isn't that long.

I had a grundig s350...lasted until I donated it but it had drift...

I tried a redsun 2100...the thing died after the first month...so I
bought the USA equivalent of the kaito ka2100...that just died the
other day (lasted a year and a half)

I had a kaito 1103 worked fantastic until I bumped something and a
chunk of the antenna snapped off and the job dial didn't fully
correspond.

Don't get me wrong when this stuff worked it was great...but there's
some newer models I'm interested in.

I don't need stuff like wefax or rtty etc. I like SSB as I can listen
to ham's...I'd like to start recording too. I know there's a Degen but
the operations of that thing look so complicated and it's degen...if
it breaks...

I'm thinking maybe a grundig g6...adding the aircraft band is
interesting...the G4 looks interesting but I didn't see anything of
SSB so it looks like $100 more just to record.

Anyone use those portible recorders that could work on the line in? I
definatly don't want to use tapes...


Oops .. sorry.,... it was not a cell phone case that I bought from
Lowpro,., it was a camera case,. Sorry for any confusion. The
camera case I bought for my KA11 and GPSr are perfect fro my needs.
www.lowepro.com
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On Jul 26, 4:42*pm, Cato wrote:
On Jul 25, 5:13*pm, mpd wrote:





I've listened to shortwave on and off for awhile but it seems to me
that some of the build quality these days isn't that long.


I had a grundig s350...lasted until I donated it but it had drift...


I tried a redsun 2100...the thing died after the first month...so I
bought the USA equivalent of the kaito ka2100...that just died the
other day (lasted a year and a half)


I had a kaito 1103 worked fantastic until I bumped something and a
chunk of the antenna snapped off and the job dial didn't fully
correspond.


Don't get me wrong when this stuff worked it was great...but there's
some newer models I'm interested in.


I don't need stuff like wefax or rtty etc. I like SSB as I can listen
to ham's...I'd like to start recording too. I know there's a Degen but
the operations of that thing look so complicated and it's degen...if
it breaks...


I'm thinking maybe a grundig g6...adding the aircraft band is
interesting...the G4 looks interesting but I didn't see anything of
SSB so it looks like $100 more just to record.


Anyone use those portible recorders that could work on the line in? I
definatly don't want to use tapes...


*Oops .. sorry.,... it was not a cell phone case that I bought from
Lowpro,., it was a camera case,. * Sorry for any confusion. *The
camera case I bought for my KA11 and GPSr are perfect fro my needs.
*www.lowepro.com- Hide quoted text -

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I think the one I got for my KA11 is the Rezo 50.. same as the Rezo 30
and 40.. just a little bigger and the accessory pocket zips closed as
well as has velcro. I added a dome fastener. I don't bother with the
shoulder strap. The case has a really well made reinforced belt loop.
But usually I just toss it into my backpack.
http://products.lowepro.com/catalog/Compact,25.htm
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Richie wrote:
On Jul 25, 9:53 pm, RHF wrote:
On Jul 25, 2:13 pm, mpd wrote:



I've listened to shortwave on and off for awhile but it seems to me
that some of the build quality these days isn't that long.
I had a grundig s350...lasted until I donated it but it had drift...
I tried a redsun 2100...the thing died after the first month...so I
bought the USA equivalent of the kaito ka2100...that just died the
other day (lasted a year and a half)
I had a kaito 1103 worked fantastic until I bumped something and a
chunk of the antenna snapped off and the job dial didn't fully
correspond.
Don't get me wrong when this stuff worked it was great...but there's
some newer models I'm interested in.
I don't need stuff like wefax or rtty etc. I like SSB as I can listen
to ham's...I'd like to start recording too. I know there's a Degen but
the operations of that thing look so complicated and it's degen...if
it breaks...
I'm thinking maybe a grundig g6...adding the aircraft band is
interesting...the G4 looks interesting but I didn't see anything of
SSB so it looks like $100 more just to record.
Anyone use those portible recorders that could work on the line in? I
definatly don't want to use tapes...

The good old Panasonic RF-2200 Radio was
very well build and seems to last forever.http://www.radiointel.com/restoring-...ws/detail/4922

Add to the list the legendary Sony ICF-2010 Radio
with AM-Sync.http://www.mwcircle.org/res-receiver...rx/icf2003.htm

For AM & FM Radio listening the GE Superadios I and II
have withstood the Test-of-Time.http://www.pocketcalculatorshow.com/...n/ge/ge19.html

An older Grundig Satellit 650 and Grundig Satellit 700
are both solid performers.http://www.dxing.com/rx/sat650.htm


How about one the LOWE receivers?
I have an HF-150 & I think its a great radio for the used price, size
& features like Synconous detection & memories plus receives all modes.



If you can find one, it's a GREAT choice. Portable. Works with a
variety of antennae...and it sounds good.

Other Lowe's are a bit larger. And some have more features, but none
represents a better value.

If you can swing a higher price point, look also at Used Drakes,
Icoms, and AOR's.

Drake's SW-2 is very high performance, though somewhat basic, and
only a little larger than HF-150.

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Well, you might have to buy an older model, well built perhaps. Or buy
a newer one but get a good protective case for it and take really good
care of it.
I own a Sony ICF-2002, (the same as the ICF-7600D, only difference
is one was for Euope, the other for North America). I purchased the
radio new in the early '80s when it came out. I've taken good care of
it and it still has nothing wrong with it and runs like brand new. Was
I just lucky? Perhaps. But it is a great radio and I've certainly
gotten my money's worth from it. Sorry, not for sale.
Try to find a good used one and buy it perhaps.
Here is some info.. http://stephan.win31.de/sony7600.htm




My 2002 was also purchased when it first came on the market. I have used it
almost daily for about a quarter of a century. It has sat in the sun and the
dirt when I am gardening, been dropped more times than I can remember -
currently is in the garage workshop where I use it at least 3 or 4 days a
week. Works as well as it ever did, but shows some cosmetic injury from 25
years of rough use.

It can't compare with my Lowe HF-150 for SWBC performance on the weak ones,
and SSB leaves quite a bit to be desired; but it always works when I ask it
to.

It is not in the same class as a 'real' receiver with multiple filters,
notch filters, DSP etc. etc. but for an affordable, portable, reliable
receiver it has been very good to me.

If you really want one that will last you need one of those heavyweight
'boat anchors' from the 1930s to 1960s - they seem to last forever with a
bit of care and capacitor replacement, but tend to be a tad large and heavy.
I've had a few, both tube and solid state and they are fun, keep the shack
warm in winter, but need to be left in one place. I have a BC-348 which will
probably still be a reliable receiver a hundred years from now, if I ever
get around to replacing the wires the mice chewed on - at least the first 70
years don't seem to have bothered the hundreds of them still in use.

Dave




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On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 20:22:20 -0400, "Dave Holford"
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Well, you might have to buy an older model, well built perhaps. Or buy
a newer one but get a good protective case for it and take really good
care of it.
I own a Sony ICF-2002,

snip


It can't compare with my Lowe HF-150 for SWBC performance on the weak ones,
and SSB leaves quite a bit to be desired; but it always works when I ask it
to.

snip
to me.

If you really want one that will last you need one of those heavyweight
'boat anchors' from the 1930s to 1960s - they seem to last forever with a
bit of care and capacitor replacement, but tend to be a tad large and heavy.
I've had a few, both tube and solid state and they are fun, keep the shack
warm in winter, but need to be left in one place.




I have a BC-348 which will
probably still be a reliable receiver a hundred years from now,

snip
Dave

I don't get it. I have had enough solid state devices to believe that
the Kaito KA-1101 KA1102 and KA-1103 will last many years.

And the ergonomics of my mint, three years old KA-1102 have not been
a problem for me.

The KA-1121? It has an integrated mp3 player that is integral and
garage logic tells me that piece can be fragile.

For the price the KA-1101 KA1102 and KA-1103 are a good investment.


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On Jul 29, 6:10*am, TinyTim wrote:
On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 20:22:20 -0400, "Dave Holford"
wrote:



Well, you might have to buy an older model, well built perhaps. Or buy
a newer one but get a good protective case for it and take really good
care of it.
*I own a Sony ICF-2002,


snip









It can't compare with my Lowe HF-150 for SWBC performance on the weak ones,
and SSB leaves quite a bit to be desired; but it always works when I ask it
to.


snip
to me.


If you really want one that will last you need one of those heavyweight
'boat anchors' from the 1930s to 1960s - they seem to last forever with a
bit of care and capacitor replacement, but tend to be a tad large and heavy.
I've had a few, both tube and solid state and they are fun, keep the shack
warm in winter, but need to be left in one place.
I have a BC-348 which will
probably still be a reliable receiver a hundred years from now,

snip
Dave


I don't get it. *I have had enough solid state devices to believe that
the Kaito *KA-1101 *KA1102 and KA-1103 will last many years.

And the ergonomics of my *mint, three years old KA-1102 have not been
a problem for me.

The KA-1121? *It has an integrated *mp3 player that is integral and
garage logic tells me that piece can be fragile.

For the price the *KA-1101 *KA1102 and KA-1103 *are a good investment.

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In article BJ4mQCBKg9HM-pn2-yvZ6c2p38wd9@localhost,
Count Floyd wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 15:41:42 UTC, (Bruce Watson)
wrote:

In article ,
Joe Analssandrini wrote:

Another option for you, if you like the KA-2100, is to buy C. Crane's
version
http://www.ccrane.com/radios/shortwa...cradio-sw.aspx
. This is almost exactly the same as your Redsun/Kaito, priced
somewhat higher, but sold by a company that, for all its faults, will
stand behind your radio and will offer excellent after-the-sale
service and support.


I have the CCRadio-SWP. I really like it. It works almost
as well as my Sony ICF-2002.


I have the CCRadio-SW also and it is great on MW DX, have not really
tried it on shortwave, using my HQ-145XC for that part. I got the
radio on the advice of John Plimmer, who is very knowledgeable on MW
DX'ing.


Mine is the smaller SWP. It, too, works great on MW DX. Last
winter I was able to bring in Minneapolis at 1200 from Denver.
SW performance is pretty good. FM is not good. My Aiwa CR-LD100
is much better with FM.
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MPD-

Take a look at the Kenwood R-1000 (Ebay, ham swaps). It is not only an
excellent receiver but it's one beautiful radio as well.

Dan...VR2HF


On Aug 2, 12:36*am, (Bruce Watson) wrote:
In article BJ4mQCBKg9HM-pn2-yvZ6c2p38wd9@localhost,



Count Floyd wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 15:41:42 UTC, (Bruce Watson)
wrote:


In article ,
Joe Analssandrini wrote:


Another option for you, if you like the KA-2100, is to buy C. Crane's
version http://www.ccrane.com/radios/shortwa...cradio-sw.aspx
. This is almost exactly the same as your Redsun/Kaito, priced
somewhat higher, but sold by a company that, for all its faults, will
stand behind your radio and will offer excellent after-the-sale
service and support.


I have the CCRadio-SWP. I really like it. It works almost
as well as my Sony ICF-2002.


I have the CCRadio-SW also and it is great on MW DX, have not really
tried it on shortwave, using my HQ-145XC for that part. *I got the
radio on the advice of John Plimmer, who is very knowledgeable on MW
DX'ing.


Mine is the smaller SWP. It, too, works great on MW DX. Last
winter I was able to bring in Minneapolis at 1200 from Denver.
SW performance is pretty good. FM is not good. My Aiwa CR-LD100
is much better with FM.


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In my opinion,

the Chinese haven't figured out
how to make durable volume controls.

I've got three or four radios that have failed audio controls.
( scratchy... noisy... dead spots )

In days of yore, you could goto RadioShack
and buy a replacement pot to solder in.
But now, RadioShack has become a cell phone/toy store.


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