RHF wrote:


Every Drop of Water that is Imported into Southern
California is an Environmental Crime...

So-called civilization is an environmental crime.

In article ,
dxAce wrote:

m II wrote:

dxAce wrote:

'Eduardo', I can imagine that it takes a whole afternoon trying to
explain to
you the simplest of concepts.

Do you realize how childish you look?

Nope, I refuse to look in the mirror.

Start acting like a grown man.

Acting, at times, has been a profession of sorts.

This event occurred just before lunch so I was at work. There on the
first floor it was a side to side rolling motion so doors started
swinging and being such I concluded the epicenter was some distance away.

The rolling motion peaked in amplitude in about 7 seconds and from that
to about 15 seconds was fading when I felt a second jolt that then began
to fade in another 15 seconds so over all it was 20 to 30 seconds of
rolling motion in Ventura.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

On Aug 1, 3:58*am, dxAce wrote:
BCBlazysusan wrote:
On Jul 29, 6:22 pm, malo wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 14:51:39 -0400, dxAce wrote:
WLS 890 Chicago is reporting a preliminary 5.8 magnitude earthquake that
hit the greater Los Angeles area at 1842Z.

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/...ci14383980.php

dxAce
Michigan
USA

-------- *Below is the New York Times story from 1 hour ago
today---------
----------------------------------------------------------------------
July 30, 2008
Earthquake Rattles Southern California
By JENNIFER STEINHAUER

LOS ANGELES — A moderately strong earthquake shook Southern California on
Tuesday, swaying buildings and tossing food off grocery store shelves for
about 20 seconds. There were no immediate reports of major injuries or
structural damage.

The quake, estimated at 5.4 magnitude (reduced from an initial estimate
of 5.8), was centered 35 east of downtown Los Angeles in Chino Hills,
just south of Pomona in San Bernardino county. It was felt as far east as
Las Vegas and as far south as San Diego.

Cellphone lines were jammed throughout the region as people began to
frantically make calls in the immediate moments after the powerful jolt.
Schools, office buildings, tourist attractions like Disneyland and other
facilities were evacuated temporarily as people braced for aftershocks,
which were numerous and in some cases were as strong as 3.8 magnitude,
while the Los Angeles City Council stopped to regroup.

Residents adjusted to that eerie, off-putting sensation of having rolled
from side to side on the rollers that are common in seismically
engineered buildings, which can leave buildings swaying for several
seconds after the quake.

The shake was strong enough to knock pictures off walls and rattle
windows, but there appeared to be little damage near the earthquake’s
epicenter.

In Riverside, two women suffered minor head injuries from people climbing
under tables.

Denise Cattern, a spokeswoman for the Chino Hills city government, a few
miles from the epicenter, said that there were no report of major damage
or injuries, but that residents and businesses were reporting lots of
things falling from walls and shelves.

“Our nerves have been rattled,” she said, adding that in the aftermath,
“everything seems to be fine.”

Elizabeth Cespuglio, 17, of Corona, about eight miles from where the
quake struck, said she was at home watching television and working on her
computer when the shaking began. It began as a gentle roll, she said,
that grew stronger and accompanied a loud vibration that was unlike the
small tremors she has become accustomed to through living in Southern
California. She said she ran to a doorframe, as experts advise.

“I always kind of liked quakes when they were tiny,” Ms. Cespuglio said
by telephone. “But after it lasted longer, it kind of freaked me out.”

Two pictures, an eight-by-six and another that was slightly larger, fell
from a wall in an adjacent bedroom, she said, but they did not break, and
saw no other damage to the house. She said a small aftershock was felt a
few minutes later.

The last powerful earthquake to shake the region — among the most the
seismically active in the world — was the 1994 Northridge earthquake,
which registered at 6.7 magnitude and produced the highest ground
acceleration ever recorded in an urban area in America.

Randal C. Archibold contributed reporting.

Copyright 2008 The New York Times Company

Sorry if anyone in here lives out in that area but I have to say- why
in the world would people live out there especially the ones along the
worst fault line in the history of the world? It just doesn't make
sense to me. I could give all kinds of analogies that would make it
sound even funnier. Everyone and their grandma **knows** it is just a
matter of time before the big one flattens and kills many people and
here is the kicker IMO.....they choose to live there? They warned and
I had read for the last ten years about the Louisiana area. Sure
enough everything happened just like the experts warned about. I guess
I am missing something. ;-)

Yeah, I myself question the 'rebuilding' of New Orleans. It's in a bowl for all
intents and purposes and it'll just get wiped out again. Not today, not
tomorrow, but it will happen.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Exactly Steve. I remember hearing in school back in 84 about
susceptible areas that were target rich disasters areas that hadn't
happened yet but were *without a doubt* going to happen. Louisiana was
either the number one or two and of course the other was out in the
Calif./LA region. I don't mean to sound like a bad person or anything
but when it does happen- and it will happen- they will have every
press and newspaper person over there showing the deaths and homeless
people. Like clockwork the begging for money and concerts for aid will
start. now I am putting my crystal ball back in the closet ;-)

On Aug 1, 8:49*am, Dave wrote:
dxAce wrote:
Sorry if anyone in here lives out in that area but I have to say- why
in the world would people live out there especially the ones along the
worst fault line in the history of the world? It just doesn't make
sense to me. I could give all kinds of analogies that would make it
sound even funnier. Everyone and their grandma **knows** it is just a
matter of time before the big one flattens and kills many people and
here is the kicker IMO.....they choose to live there? They warned and
I had read for the last ten years about the Louisiana area. Sure
enough everything happened just like the experts warned about. I guess
I am missing something. ;-)

Yeah, I myself question the 'rebuilding' of New Orleans. It's in a bowl for all
intents and purposes and it'll just get wiped out again. Not today, not
tomorrow, but it will happen.

New Orleans did just fine until George Bush cut the funds for levee
maintenance. *New Orleans did fine until the oil companies destroyed the
50 miles of marshlands between the city and the Gulf. *New Orleans did
fine until Mr. Go.

But don't worry. *Nobody's rebuilding New Orleans.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Lets say everything you just said was the truth and no embellishments.
Why then did little ole' me know without a doubt that this was going
to happen and more than likely in my lifetime? Crystal ball maybe? Or
just common sense? You can pick.

On Aug 1, 8:53*am, Dave wrote:
It's just a matter of time before a hurricane reeks havoc on New York
City; *should they evacuate now?

Have you truly read and researched about this subject matter other
than major motion picture or books of fiction? I am serious when I say
this. You may do this in the field of work that you do. I don't- I
just try an use common sense. From what I have read it would
'literally' take an act of God for a storm pattern to do to New York
what Hollywood book writers try an portray is going to happen in the
near future. Now for sake of conversation, could it happen? Sure it
could. But if you know anything about weather patterns and such it
would .......like I said.....be an act of God. In that case, nothing
is going to stop it.


Southern California has the best weather in the country.

No doubt. Just about everytime I hear or read about the weather in
California it is nice. The day after the crap hits the fan and every
major press/journalist is over there.....in the background it will
look like a postcard. Of course minus the destroyed home/buildings/
highways and death etc. etc. etc. Again - many analogies could now be
written- but I won't waste the bandwidth. ;-)


*The earthquake
risk is part of the price one pays for living in paradise.

I noticed the ironic choice of words there. **earthquake/risk/price/
paradise** It is like those four words don't belong in the same
sentence but alas they are. That is what I am saying - again not to
sound mean- because just like Louisiana- you think that was bad?
LOL....dude that was childs play compared to what is going to happen
to the western area. It may sound harsh but when it does go down - and
it will- chances are (using my crystal ball again) I will be slowly
sipping my coffee and shaking my head and rolling my eyes - like "DUH"
don't act like this wasn't expected...lol. No- I am not sending anyone
money either.


*Regardless
of the ridiculous coverage in the national press, virtually nobody here
thought it was a very big deal.

Indeed it was ridiculous. That size of quake isn't nothing - I also
believe nobody there felt it was a big deal because I know for a fact
that it wasn't a big deal and I live in Cincinnati- imagine that.

On Aug 1, 11:19*am, RHF wrote:
On Aug 1, 5:49*am, Dave wrote:

dxAce wrote:
Sorry if anyone in here lives out in that area but I have to say- why
in the world would people live out there especially the ones along the
worst fault line in the history of the world? It just doesn't make
sense to me. I could give all kinds of analogies that would make it
sound even funnier. Everyone and their grandma **knows** it is just a
matter of time before the big one flattens and kills many people and
here is the kicker IMO.....they choose to live there? They warned and
I had read for the last ten years about the Louisiana area. Sure
enough everything happened just like the experts warned about. I guess
I am missing something. ;-)

Yeah, I myself question the 'rebuilding' of New Orleans. It's in a bowl for all
intents and purposes and it'll just get wiped out again. Not today, not
tomorrow, but it will happen.

- New Orleans did just fine until George Bush
- cut the funds for levee maintenance.

Dave you are repeating another Liberal Lie : Point of Fact
the State of Louisiana and the City of New Orleans
'diverted the Level Money from Levees and Maintenance
to Yacht Harbours and Gambling Casinos.
-so-called- Civic Improvements

-*New Orleans did fine until the oil companies destroyed
- the 50 miles of marshlands between the city and the Gulf.

Dave a clear distrotion of the Facts : That is to the South
the Storm Surge came from the North from Lake Pontchartrain.

- New Orleans did fine until Mr. Go.

Who The 'F' is "Mr. Go."

- But don't worry. *Nobody's rebuilding New Orleans.

The City of New Orleans is getting rebuild slowly because
the State of Louisiana and the City Government are doing
what they do best : Siphoning-Off the Money for other uses.

dang that was easy ~ RHF
*.

Nice and polite and to the point response RHF. :-) I've read the cloak
and dagger stories about the local government and how they have their
hands in everything but grandma's cookie jar over there.

On Aug 1, 11:52*am, RHF wrote:
On Aug 1, 5:53*am, Dave wrote:





BCBlazysusan wrote:
On Jul 29, 6:22 pm, malo wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 14:51:39 -0400, dxAce wrote:
WLS 890 Chicago is reporting a preliminary 5.8 magnitude earthquake that
hit the greater Los Angeles area at 1842Z.
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/...ci14383980.php
dxAce
Michigan
USA
-------- *Below is the New York Times story from 1 hour ago
today---------
----------------------------------------------------------------------
July 30, 2008
Earthquake Rattles Southern California
By JENNIFER STEINHAUER

LOS ANGELES — A moderately strong earthquake shook Southern California on
Tuesday, swaying buildings and tossing food off grocery store shelves for
about 20 seconds. There were no immediate reports of major injuries or
structural damage.

The quake, estimated at 5.4 magnitude (reduced from an initial estimate
of 5.8), was centered 35 east of downtown Los Angeles in Chino Hills,
just south of Pomona in San Bernardino county. It was felt as far east as
Las Vegas and as far south as San Diego.

Cellphone lines were jammed throughout the region as people began to
frantically make calls in the immediate moments after the powerful jolt.
Schools, office buildings, tourist attractions like Disneyland and other
facilities were evacuated temporarily as people braced for aftershocks,
which were numerous and in some cases were as strong as 3.8 magnitude,
while the Los Angeles City Council stopped to regroup.

Residents adjusted to that eerie, off-putting sensation of having rolled
from side to side on the rollers that are common in seismically
engineered buildings, which can leave buildings swaying for several
seconds after the quake.

The shake was strong enough to knock pictures off walls and rattle
windows, but there appeared to be little damage near the earthquake’s
epicenter.

In Riverside, two women suffered minor head injuries from people climbing
under tables.

Denise Cattern, a spokeswoman for the Chino Hills city government, a few
miles from the epicenter, said that there were no report of major damage
or injuries, but that residents and businesses were reporting lots of
things falling from walls and shelves.

“Our nerves have been rattled,” she said, adding that in the aftermath,
“everything seems to be fine.”

Elizabeth Cespuglio, 17, of Corona, about eight miles from where the
quake struck, said she was at home watching television and working on her
computer when the shaking began. It began as a gentle roll, she said,
that grew stronger and accompanied a loud vibration that was unlike the
small tremors she has become accustomed to through living in Southern
California. She said she ran to a doorframe, as experts advise.

“I always kind of liked quakes when they were tiny,” Ms. Cespuglio said
by telephone. “But after it lasted longer, it kind of freaked me out.”

Two pictures, an eight-by-six and another that was slightly larger, fell
from a wall in an adjacent bedroom, she said, but they did not break, and
saw no other damage to the house. She said a small aftershock was felt a
few minutes later.

The last powerful earthquake to shake the region — among the most the
seismically active in the world — was the 1994 Northridge earthquake,
which registered at 6.7 magnitude and produced the highest ground
acceleration ever recorded in an urban area in America.

Randal C. Archibold contributed reporting.

Copyright 2008 The New York Times Company

Sorry if anyone in here lives out in that area but I have to say- why
in the world would people live out there especially the ones along the
worst fault line in the history of the world? It just doesn't make
sense to me. I could give all kinds of analogies that would make it
sound even funnier. Everyone and their grandma **knows** it is just a
matter of time before the big one flattens and kills many people and
here is the kicker IMO.....they choose to live there? They warned and
I had read for the last ten years about the Louisiana area. Sure
enough everything happened just like the experts warned about. I guess
I am missing something. ;-)

It's just a matter of time before a hurricane reeks havoc on New York
City; *should they evacuate now?

- Southern California has the best weather in the country.

Until the Colorado, Nevada and North California Water
stops coming and then it will be very dry.http://monolake.org/waterpolicy/outs...background.cfm

-*The earthquake risk is part of the price one pays for
- living in paradise.

? Paradise ?
A 'paradise' Built on Destroying the Natural Environment.
Every Drop of Water that is Imported into Southern
California is an Environmental Crime that Al Gore
should be Outraged By - but his is 'silent' and
hands off - why . . .http://www.biogeographer.com/F53.gif...g/al-gore2.jpg

-*Regardless of the ridiculous coverage in the national press,
- virtually nobody here thought it was a very big deal.

Most of what comes out of the Liberal News Media
is 'ridiculous coverage' that is biased information and
factually slanted.
*.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

nice links there RHF- those are good reads. Thanks :-)

BCBlazysusan wrote:
On Aug 1, 8:49 am, Dave wrote:
dxAce wrote:
Sorry if anyone in here lives out in that area but I have to say- why
in the world would people live out there especially the ones along the
worst fault line in the history of the world? It just doesn't make
sense to me. I could give all kinds of analogies that would make it
sound even funnier. Everyone and their grandma **knows** it is just a
matter of time before the big one flattens and kills many people and
here is the kicker IMO.....they choose to live there? They warned and
I had read for the last ten years about the Louisiana area. Sure
enough everything happened just like the experts warned about. I guess
I am missing something. ;-)
Yeah, I myself question the 'rebuilding' of New Orleans. It's in a bowl for all
intents and purposes and it'll just get wiped out again. Not today, not
tomorrow, but it will happen.
New Orleans did just fine until George Bush cut the funds for levee
maintenance. New Orleans did fine until the oil companies destroyed the
50 miles of marshlands between the city and the Gulf. New Orleans did
fine until Mr. Go.

But don't worry. Nobody's rebuilding New Orleans.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Lets say everything you just said was the truth and no embellishments.
Why then did little ole' me know without a doubt that this was going
to happen and more than likely in my lifetime? Crystal ball maybe? Or
just common sense? You can pick.

Name a place that isn't vulnerable. New Orleans has low spots that were
supposed to be protected by levees and pumps. The levees were the
responsibility of George W. Bush and the levees failed when they were
supposed to protect.

BCBlazysusan wrote:
On Aug 1, 8:53 am, Dave wrote:
It's just a matter of time before a hurricane reeks havoc on New York
City; should they evacuate now?

Have you truly read and researched about this subject matter other
than major motion picture or books of fiction? I am serious when I say
this. You may do this in the field of work that you do. I don't- I
just try an use common sense. From what I have read it would
'literally' take an act of God for a storm pattern to do to New York
what Hollywood book writers try an portray is going to happen in the
near future. Now for sake of conversation, could it happen? Sure it
could. But if you know anything about weather patterns and such it
would .......like I said.....be an act of God. In that case, nothing
is going to stop it.

Southern California has the best weather in the country.

No doubt. Just about everytime I hear or read about the weather in
California it is nice. The day after the crap hits the fan and every
major press/journalist is over there.....in the background it will
look like a postcard. Of course minus the destroyed home/buildings/
highways and death etc. etc. etc. Again - many analogies could now be
written- but I won't waste the bandwidth. ;-)


The earthquake
risk is part of the price one pays for living in paradise.

I noticed the ironic choice of words there. **earthquake/risk/price/
paradise** It is like those four words don't belong in the same
sentence but alas they are. That is what I am saying - again not to
sound mean- because just like Louisiana- you think that was bad?
LOL....dude that was childs play compared to what is going to happen
to the western area. It may sound harsh but when it does go down - and
it will- chances are (using my crystal ball again) I will be slowly
sipping my coffee and shaking my head and rolling my eyes - like "DUH"
don't act like this wasn't expected...lol. No- I am not sending anyone
money either.


Regardless
of the ridiculous coverage in the national press, virtually nobody here
thought it was a very big deal.

Indeed it was ridiculous. That size of quake isn't nothing - I also
believe nobody there felt it was a big deal because I know for a fact
that it wasn't a big deal and I live in Cincinnati- imagine that.


A disaster can strike one part of town and life goes on elsewhere. When
you're a hundred miles wide by sixty miles high that's how it is.

Dave wrote:

BCBlazysusan wrote:
On Aug 1, 8:53 am, Dave wrote:
It's just a matter of time before a hurricane reeks havoc on New York
City; should they evacuate now?

Have you truly read and researched about this subject matter other
than major motion picture or books of fiction? I am serious when I say
this. You may do this in the field of work that you do. I don't- I
just try an use common sense. From what I have read it would
'literally' take an act of God for a storm pattern to do to New York
what Hollywood book writers try an portray is going to happen in the
near future. Now for sake of conversation, could it happen? Sure it
could. But if you know anything about weather patterns and such it
would .......like I said.....be an act of God. In that case, nothing
is going to stop it.

Southern California has the best weather in the country.

No doubt. Just about everytime I hear or read about the weather in
California it is nice. The day after the crap hits the fan and every
major press/journalist is over there.....in the background it will
look like a postcard. Of course minus the destroyed home/buildings/
highways and death etc. etc. etc. Again - many analogies could now be
written- but I won't waste the bandwidth. ;-)


The earthquake
risk is part of the price one pays for living in paradise.

I noticed the ironic choice of words there. **earthquake/risk/price/
paradise** It is like those four words don't belong in the same
sentence but alas they are. That is what I am saying - again not to
sound mean- because just like Louisiana- you think that was bad?
LOL....dude that was childs play compared to what is going to happen
to the western area. It may sound harsh but when it does go down - and
it will- chances are (using my crystal ball again) I will be slowly
sipping my coffee and shaking my head and rolling my eyes - like "DUH"
don't act like this wasn't expected...lol. No- I am not sending anyone
money either.


Regardless
of the ridiculous coverage in the national press, virtually nobody here
thought it was a very big deal.

Indeed it was ridiculous. That size of quake isn't nothing - I also
believe nobody there felt it was a big deal because I know for a fact
that it wasn't a big deal and I live in Cincinnati- imagine that.


A disaster can strike one part of town and life goes on elsewhere. When
you're a hundred miles wide by sixty miles high that's how it is.

How many miles high are you today, Rickets?