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[email protected] August 3rd 08 10:41 AM

Used Radio Choices?
 
Hi,
I am comparing two radios: a Grundig Satillite 700 or a Grundig
Satillite 800. Assuming both are in good shape which is the better
choice?
Thank you,
Mike

[email protected] August 3rd 08 01:51 PM

Used Radio Choices?
 
I think most people would say the Grundig Satelite 800 is the better of
the two.
cuhulin


Brenda Ann August 3rd 08 02:00 PM

Used Radio Choices?
 

wrote in message
...
Hi,
I am comparing two radios: a Grundig Satillite 700 or a Grundig
Satillite 800. Assuming both are in good shape which is the better
choice?
Thank you,
Mike


The 700 was the last Grundig radio actually MADE by Grundig, and the build
quality and QC are much better.




Drifter August 3rd 08 03:20 PM

Used Radio Choices?
 
Brenda Ann wrote:
wrote in message
...
Hi,
I am comparing two radios: a Grundig Satillite 700 or a Grundig
Satillite 800. Assuming both are in good shape which is the better
choice?
Thank you,
Mike


The 700 was the last Grundig radio actually MADE by Grundig, and the build
quality and QC are much better.



I'm with Brenda on that. it also has that Grundig sound.

Drifter...

[email protected] August 3rd 08 04:38 PM

Used Radio Choices?
 
I don't own a Grundig Satelite 700 or 800 radio, so I really don't
know.I do own a made in Germany wooden cabinet floor model (I think it
is a Majestic model radio) Grundig (I think it was made by Telefunken)
AM/FM/Shortwave/Phonograph radio which I believe was made around 1957.I
also own a made in Germany wooden cabinet Telefunken Opus 7 table model
AM/FM/Shortwave radio (a beautiful looking radio) which I believe was
made in the late 1950s or early 1960s.I paid $14.00 for the Grundig
radio and $4.00 for the Telefunken radio years ago at a Goodwill store.
www.shopgoodwill.com for bargains galore.
cuhulin


Mike[_2_] August 3rd 08 08:26 PM

Used Radio Choices?
 
I have owned both and I agree with John and Cuhulin. The 700 has
better quality control, but the sync design leaves a lot to be
desired. I believe the radio was made for Grundig in Portugal. The 800
was made in China (at the Tecsun production facilities) and quality
control was an issue, particularly in the earlier radios. If you can
find a good 800, however, it's a better radio for SWLing and DXing.
The large speaker on the 800 is unsurpassed for audio quality. It's
too big to really be considered a portable. Both radios go for good
amounts on eBay, but the 800 will usually go for more than a 700, in
the range of $350 to $400. The 700 usually goes for $250 to $300.

And though it greatly worries me to agree twice in one day with
Cuhulin, he's also right about looking in thrift stores. I just found
a fully functional Realistic DX-150A for $15 in a local thrift store.

Mike
Louisville, KY

On Aug 3, 2:22�pm, wrote:
On Aug 3, 11:41�am, wrote:

Hi,
� I am comparing two radios: a Grundig Satillite 700 or a Grundig
Satillite 800. �Assuming both are in good �shape which is the better
choice?
Thank you,
Mike


I have never owned these radio's, but did have a Sat 700 for test for
a while against a Sony 2010. The Sony ran rings around it due to the
700's poor SW sensitivity and very mediocre sync detector.

OTOH I have never seen a Sat 800 here in South Africa, but do own a
Drake SW8 which I have for some years. The innards of the Sat 800 are
based on the SW8, so I would suggest it is a top notch choice as
Cuhulin states. However, do you know that it is a HUGE radio, several
times larger than a Sat 700?

John Plimmer, Montagu, Western Cape Province, South Africa
South 33 d 47 m 32 s, East 20 d 07 m 32 s
Icom IC-7700, Icom IC-756 PRO III with MW mods
ERGO software
Drake SW8. Sangean 803A
Sony 7600D, GE SRIII, Redsun RP2100
Antenna's RF Systems DX 1 Pro Mk II, Datong AD-270
Kiwa MW Loop.http://www.dxing.info/about/dxers/plimmer.dx



[email protected] August 4th 08 12:16 AM

Used Radio Choices?
 
Don't be worried.Take two mornings and call me in the asparin,
everything will be alright.
How are things in Louisville? I spent two months at Fort Knox, but I
liked to go to Elizabethtown (ETown) evenings rather than Louisville.
cuhulin


Mike[_2_] August 4th 08 02:11 AM

Used Radio Choices?
 
On Aug 3, 7:16�pm, wrote:
Don't be worried.Take two mornings and call me in the asparin,
everything will be alright.
How are things in Louisville? I spent two months at Fort Knox, but I
liked to go to Elizabethtown (ETown) evenings rather than Louisville.
cuhulin



Things are warm and muggy along the Ohio. E'town has gotten much
larger in the past ten years. What year were you in Kentucky? Probably
back toward the sixties, right? Major changes everywhere...

Mike
Louisville, KY

[email protected] August 4th 08 02:34 AM

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I was at ammo school at Fort Knox, October and November 1963, getting
ready to go to Vietnam.Some evenings when I was bored I used to catch a
bus from Fort Knox to Elizabethtown and go to Newberrys department store
for chipped beef on toast.Then I would walk over to a milkshake joint by
the name of Moooooo for a milkshake and then take in a movie.Radcliffe
is another little town I remember.
cuhulin


RHF August 4th 08 02:47 AM

Recommendations for a 1ST Shortwave Radio
 
On Aug 3, 12:26*pm, Mike wrote:
I have owned both and I agree with John and Cuhulin. The 700 has
better quality control, but the sync design leaves a lot to be
desired. I believe the radio was made for Grundig in Portugal. The 800
was made in China (at the Tecsun production facilities) and quality
control was an issue, particularly in the earlier radios. If you can
find a good 800, however, it's a better radio for SWLing and DXing.
The large speaker on the 800 is unsurpassed for audio quality. It's
too big to really be considered a portable. Both radios go for good
amounts on eBay, but the 800 will usually go for more than a 700, in
the range of $350 to $400. The 700 usually goes for $250 to $300.

And though it greatly worries me to agree twice in one day with
Cuhulin, he's also right about looking in thrift stores. I just found
a fully functional Realistic DX-150A for $15 in a local thrift store.

Mike
Louisville, KY

On Aug 3, 2:22 pm, wrote:



On Aug 3, 11:41 am, wrote:


Hi,
I am comparing two radios: a Grundig Satillite 700 or a Grundig
Satillite 800. Assuming both are in good shape which is the better
choice?
Thank you,
Mike


I have never owned these radio's, but did have a Sat 700 for test for
a while against a Sony 2010. The Sony ran rings around it due to the
700's poor SW sensitivity and very mediocre sync detector.


OTOH I have never seen a Sat 800 here in South Africa, but do own a
Drake SW8 which I have for some years. The innards of the Sat 800 are
based on the SW8, so I would suggest it is a top notch choice as
Cuhulin states. However, do you know that it is a HUGE radio, several
times larger than a Sat 700?


John Plimmer, Montagu, Western Cape Province, South Africa
South 33 d 47 m 32 s, East 20 d 07 m 32 s
Icom IC-7700, Icom IC-756 PRO III with MW mods
ERGO software
Drake SW8. Sangean 803A
Sony 7600D, GE SRIII, Redsun RP2100
Antenna's RF Systems DX 1 Pro Mk II, Datong AD-270
Kiwa MW Loop.http://www.dxing.info/about/dxers/plimmer.dx- Hide quoted text -


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Two Recommendations for a 1ST Shortwave Radio :

For a First Shortwave Radio : I would recommend the
Grundig Satellit 800 Millennium Radio as nice to Listen
to using the built-in Speaker and very easy to understand
and use for a Newbie. {Used}
http://www.dxing.com/rx/sat800.htm

The 'other' would be the Sony ICF-SW7600GR 'portable'
AM/FM Shortwave Radio. {New}
http://www.dxing.com/rx/icfsw7600gr.htm
http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...able/0360.html

Both have AM-Syncs that work and are very good Program
Listening Radios; though the Sony could use an external
Speaker for a little better sound.

~ RHF

Pete KE9OA August 4th 08 04:31 AM

Used Radio Choices?
 
I thought that the 700 was a Philips design, like the 600 and 650. None of
these receivers have audio quality like the old German designed Satellit
receivers. When you listen to a Satellit 210, 1000, 2000, 2100, 3000, and
3400 you are reminded of the sound that the old Grundig Majestic tube
consoles had.
These older units also were more sensitive, and had better IMD rejection.
The Satellit 800 was actually an R.L. Drake design, very similar to the
Drake SW-8. The Satellit 800 has much better performance than the Satellit
700...................when it works. The problem with the Satellit 800 is
that as Brenda Ann mentioned, because of the very poor quality control it is
a hit or miss game of finding a good one.
In contrast, I still have the Satellit 210 that I bought 30 years
ago...........no problems with this one. My wife is the new owner of the
210, and she listens to it almost every day.......for the last 14 years.
That radio uses an RF amplifier on the MW and SW bands that has an ft of
600MHz, with a 3 or 4dB noise figure. That is almost unheard of in the
portable radio that was sold in 1970. The trimmer capacitors are the high Q
ceramic types that you typically see in Hewlett Packard test equipment.
Collins Radio Company also used these types of trimmers in their radio
equipment, so it gives you an idea of how well designed these older German
Satellit radios were.

Pete

"Drifter" wrote in message
...
Brenda Ann wrote:
wrote in message
...
Hi,
I am comparing two radios: a Grundig Satillite 700 or a Grundig
Satillite 800. Assuming both are in good shape which is the better
choice?
Thank you,
Mike


The 700 was the last Grundig radio actually MADE by Grundig, and the
build quality and QC are much better.



I'm with Brenda on that. it also has that Grundig sound.

Drifter...




Brenda Ann August 4th 08 06:54 AM

Used Radio Choices?
 

"Pete KE9OA" wrote in message
. ..
I thought that the 700 was a Philips design, like the 600 and 650. None of
these receivers have audio quality like the old German designed Satellit
receivers. When you listen to a Satellit 210, 1000, 2000, 2100, 3000, and
3400 you are reminded of the sound that the old Grundig Majestic tube
consoles had.
These older units also were more sensitive, and had better IMD rejection.
The Satellit 800 was actually an R.L. Drake design, very similar to the
Drake SW-8. The Satellit 800 has much better performance than the Satellit
700...................when it works. The problem with the Satellit 800 is
that as Brenda Ann mentioned, because of the very poor quality control it
is a hit or miss game of finding a good one.
In contrast, I still have the Satellit 210 that I bought 30 years
ago...........no problems with this one. My wife is the new owner of the
210, and she listens to it almost every day.......for the last 14 years.
That radio uses an RF amplifier on the MW and SW bands that has an ft of
600MHz, with a 3 or 4dB noise figure. That is almost unheard of in the
portable radio that was sold in 1970. The trimmer capacitors are the high
Q ceramic types that you typically see in Hewlett Packard test equipment.
Collins Radio Company also used these types of trimmers in their radio
equipment, so it gives you an idea of how well designed these older German
Satellit radios were.


I, too, am a fan of the older Grundigs, both tube and SS. I have a
Transistor 1000 (Satellite 304?) that is the pride of my portable
collection. The sensitivity is awesome, as is the sound. I had another of
these many years ago that my boss at a repair shop gave me (abandoned by
customer). It needed a new speaker and new output transistors. A testament
to Grundig design, it sounded great even with a cheap 4x6 replacement
speaker and a pair of ECG102A's as replacements. I had that one for a number
of years until I came upon hard times and had to sell it.



BCBlazysusan August 4th 08 08:17 AM

Used Radio Choices?
 
On Aug 3, 7:16*pm, wrote:
Don't be worried.Take two mornings and call me in the asparin,
everything will be alright.
How are things in Louisville? I spent two months at Fort Knox, but I
liked to go to Elizabethtown (ETown) evenings rather than Louisville.
cuhulin


Huh? I'd feel like **** if I took two mornings and then called me in a
aspirin? All in fun. You crack me up at times.

BCBlazysusan August 4th 08 08:20 AM

Used Radio Choices?
 
On Aug 3, 9:11*pm, Mike wrote:
On Aug 3, 7:16 pm, wrote:

Don't be worried.Take two mornings and call me in the asparin,
everything will be alright.
How are things in Louisville? I spent two months at Fort Knox, but I
liked to go to Elizabethtown (ETown) evenings rather than Louisville.
cuhulin


Things are warm and muggy along the Ohio. E'town has gotten much
larger in the past ten years. What year were you in Kentucky? Probably
back toward the sixties, right? Major changes everywhere...

Mike
Louisville, KY


Mike. Cincinnati, Ohio here. I won't hold it against you that you are
from the Ville' and I am from the Nati'. ;-) I am in Louisville
(unfortuantely) four times a week. I will be a Papa Johns (if I
remember correctly) this season for the UC/Ville' gridiron
matchup. :-)


BCBlazysusan August 4th 08 08:23 AM

Used Radio Choices?
 
On Aug 3, 11:31*pm, "Pete KE9OA" wrote:
I thought that the 700 was a Philips design, like the 600 and 650. None of
these receivers have audio quality like the old German designed Satellit
receivers. When you listen to a Satellit 210, 1000, 2000, 2100, 3000, and
3400 you are reminded of the sound that the old Grundig Majestic tube
consoles had.
These older units also were more sensitive, and had better IMD rejection.
The Satellit 800 was actually an R.L. Drake design, very similar to the
Drake SW-8. The Satellit 800 has much better performance than the Satellit
700...................when it works. The problem with the Satellit 800 is
that as Brenda Ann mentioned, because of the very poor quality control it is
a hit or miss game of finding a good one.
In contrast, I still have the Satellit 210 that I bought 30 years
ago...........no problems with this one. My wife is the new owner of the
210, and she listens to it almost every day.......for the last 14 years.
That radio uses an RF amplifier on the MW and SW bands that has an ft of
600MHz, with a 3 or 4dB noise figure. That is almost unheard of in the
portable radio that was sold in 1970. The trimmer capacitors are the high Q
ceramic types that you typically see in Hewlett Packard test equipment.
Collins Radio Company also used these types of trimmers in their radio
equipment, so it gives you an idea of how well designed these older German
Satellit radios were.

Pete

"Drifter" wrote in message

...



Brenda Ann wrote:
wrote in message
....
Hi,
*I am comparing two radios: a Grundig Satillite 700 or a Grundig
Satillite 800. *Assuming both are in good *shape which is the better
choice?
Thank you,
Mike


The 700 was the last Grundig radio actually MADE by Grundig, and the
build quality and QC are much better.


I'm with Brenda on that. it also has that Grundig sound.


Drifter...- Hide quoted text -


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Good post Pete. I didn't know that about the 210.

BCBlazysusan August 4th 08 08:24 AM

Used Radio Choices?
 
On Aug 3, 11:31*pm, "Pete KE9OA" wrote:
I thought that the 700 was a Philips design, like the 600 and 650. None of
these receivers have audio quality like the old German designed Satellit
receivers. When you listen to a Satellit 210, 1000, 2000, 2100, 3000, and
3400 you are reminded of the sound that the old Grundig Majestic tube
consoles had.
These older units also were more sensitive, and had better IMD rejection.
The Satellit 800 was actually an R.L. Drake design, very similar to the
Drake SW-8. The Satellit 800 has much better performance than the Satellit
700...................when it works. The problem with the Satellit 800 is
that as Brenda Ann mentioned, because of the very poor quality control it is
a hit or miss game of finding a good one.
In contrast, I still have the Satellit 210 that I bought 30 years
ago...........no problems with this one. My wife is the new owner of the
210, and she listens to it almost every day.......for the last 14 years.
That radio uses an RF amplifier on the MW and SW bands that has an ft of
600MHz, with a 3 or 4dB noise figure. That is almost unheard of in the
portable radio that was sold in 1970. The trimmer capacitors are the high Q
ceramic types that you typically see in Hewlett Packard test equipment.
Collins Radio Company also used these types of trimmers in their radio
equipment, so it gives you an idea of how well designed these older German
Satellit radios were.

Pete

"Drifter" wrote in message

...



Brenda Ann wrote:
wrote in message
....
Hi,
*I am comparing two radios: a Grundig Satillite 700 or a Grundig
Satillite 800. *Assuming both are in good *shape which is the better
choice?
Thank you,
Mike


The 700 was the last Grundig radio actually MADE by Grundig, and the
build quality and QC are much better.


I'm with Brenda on that. it also has that Grundig sound.


Drifter...- Hide quoted text -


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Forgot to ask. Can you maybe throw a link for that particular piece.
I'd appreciate it. Tx.

Dorpmuller August 4th 08 05:53 PM

Used Radio Choices?
 
www.shopgoodwill.com for bargains galore.
cuhulin


Crap auction site like the other one... no bargains there.



Dorpmuller August 4th 08 05:58 PM

Recommendations for a 1ST Shortwave Radio
 
And though it greatly worries me to agree twice in one day with
Cuhulin, he's also right about looking in thrift stores. I just found
a fully functional Realistic DX-150A for $15 in a local thrift store.

Mike
Louisville, KY


Sheeeiit... never happen around here. Never got anything in a thrift store
yet. They got greedy too... "Oh, we sell all our good stuff on Epay." That's
the exact answer I got when I inquired about radios. Before I told the bitch
to go po**** herself, I left. Never been back.

Rich



Pete KE9OA August 5th 08 02:40 AM

Used Radio Choices?
 
I discovered that Satellit 210 back in 1970..........it is a good receiver.
I once repaired a Sat 700 for a friend of mine.................almost all of
the chips in that radio are Philips radio chips. Not a bad radio, but deaf
on the MW band, when you compare it to the older Satellit radios.

"BCBlazysusan" wrote in message
...
On Aug 3, 11:31 pm, "Pete KE9OA" wrote:
I thought that the 700 was a Philips design, like the 600 and 650. None of
these receivers have audio quality like the old German designed Satellit
receivers. When you listen to a Satellit 210, 1000, 2000, 2100, 3000, and
3400 you are reminded of the sound that the old Grundig Majestic tube
consoles had.
These older units also were more sensitive, and had better IMD rejection.
The Satellit 800 was actually an R.L. Drake design, very similar to the
Drake SW-8. The Satellit 800 has much better performance than the Satellit
700...................when it works. The problem with the Satellit 800 is
that as Brenda Ann mentioned, because of the very poor quality control it
is
a hit or miss game of finding a good one.
In contrast, I still have the Satellit 210 that I bought 30 years
ago...........no problems with this one. My wife is the new owner of the
210, and she listens to it almost every day.......for the last 14 years.
That radio uses an RF amplifier on the MW and SW bands that has an ft of
600MHz, with a 3 or 4dB noise figure. That is almost unheard of in the
portable radio that was sold in 1970. The trimmer capacitors are the high
Q
ceramic types that you typically see in Hewlett Packard test equipment.
Collins Radio Company also used these types of trimmers in their radio
equipment, so it gives you an idea of how well designed these older German
Satellit radios were.

Pete

"Drifter" wrote in message

...



Brenda Ann wrote:
wrote in message
...
Hi,
I am comparing two radios: a Grundig Satillite 700 or a Grundig
Satillite 800. Assuming both are in good shape which is the better
choice?
Thank you,
Mike


The 700 was the last Grundig radio actually MADE by Grundig, and the
build quality and QC are much better.


I'm with Brenda on that. it also has that Grundig sound.


Drifter...- Hide quoted text -


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Good post Pete. I didn't know that about the 210.



BCBlazysusan August 5th 08 08:50 AM

Used Radio Choices?
 
On Aug 4, 9:42*pm, "Pete KE9OA" wrote:
Oh sure...........this link should answer all of your questions:

http://www.classic-worldband.com/

Pete

"BCBlazysusan" wrote in message

...
On Aug 3, 11:31 pm, "Pete KE9OA" wrote:





I thought that the 700 was a Philips design, like the 600 and 650. None of
these receivers have audio quality like the old German designed Satellit
receivers. When you listen to a Satellit 210, 1000, 2000, 2100, 3000, and
3400 you are reminded of the sound that the old Grundig Majestic tube
consoles had.
These older units also were more sensitive, and had better IMD rejection.


Unrevealed Source August 6th 08 12:23 AM

Used Radio Choices?
 
Both are great radios. It depends on whether you want a portable (the 700)
or a desktop (the 800).

People will warn you about quality control problems on the 800, and that was
true for the first generation. Look for a second-generation 800 with a
serial number beginning with S82 or greater. No problems with anything made
after that.

If I had to keep only one of the two, it would be the 800.

Jeff



wrote in message
...
Hi,
I am comparing two radios: a Grundig Satillite 700 or a Grundig
Satillite 800. Assuming both are in good shape which is the better
choice?
Thank you,
Mike




[email protected] August 6th 08 08:47 PM

Used Radio Choices?
 
On Aug 5, 7:23 pm, "Unrevealed Source"
wrote:
Both are great radios. It depends on whether you want a portable (the 700)
or a desktop (the 800).

People will warn you about quality control problems on the 800, and that was
true for the first generation. Look for a second-generation 800 with a
serial number beginning with S82 or greater. No problems with anything made
after that.

If I had to keep only one of the two, it would be the 800.

Jeff

wrote in message

...

Hi,
I am comparing two radios: a Grundig Satillite 700 or a Grundig
Satillite 800. Assuming both are in good shape which is the better
choice?
Thank you,
Mike


Hi,
Thank you for all the good replies. I got an Eton E-1 from
Universal.
Mike McM.

Mike[_2_] August 6th 08 09:00 PM

Used Radio Choices?
 
Good choice! Quality control is a little weak, but, if you got a good
one, you won't be sorry. I've had an E1XM for over a year now, and
it's the best portable I've ever seen. Don't forget to join the E1
Yahoo Group.

Mike
Louisville, KY

On Aug 6, 3:47�pm, wrote:
On Aug 5, 7:23 pm, "Unrevealed Source"
wrote:





Both are great radios. �It depends on whether you want a portable (the 700)
or a desktop (the 800).


People will warn you about quality control problems on the 800, and that was
true for the first generation. �Look for a second-generation 800 with a
serial number beginning with S82 or greater. �No problems with anything made
after that.


If I had to keep only one of the two, it would be the 800.


Jeff


wrote in message


...


Hi,
�I am comparing two radios: a Grundig Satillite 700 or a Grundig
Satillite 800. �Assuming both are in good �shape which is the better
choice?
Thank you,
Mike


Hi,
� Thank you for all the good replies. �I got an Eton E-1 from
Universal.
Mike McM.- Hide quoted text -

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[email protected] August 8th 08 03:34 PM

Used Radio Choices?
 
On Aug 3, 5:41 am, wrote:
Hi,
I am comparing two radios: a Grundig Satillite 700 or a Grundig
Satillite 800. Assuming both are in good shape which is the better
choice?
Thank you,
Mike


Hello,
Universal is selling the Eton E-1 at a good price so I settled on
that instead of the above. Thanks for all the advice.
Mike McM.

[email protected] August 9th 08 03:31 PM

Used Radio Choices?
 
On Aug 3, 5:41 am, wrote:
Hi,
I am comparing two radios: a Grundig Satillite 700 or a Grundig
Satillite 800. Assuming both are in good shape which is the better
choice?
Thank you,
Mike


OK,
I did finally make a choice. I got a Eton E1 new from Universal
Radio. Universal bench tests the new ones before they ship them.
Thank you for the replies.
Mike McManus


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