Move Am's to channels 5&6?
"KaitoWRX911" wrote in message ... On Aug 9, 10:53?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote: "KaitoWRX911" wrote in message ... The clear channels don't generally cover much that is not covered by dozens of FMs in and around each market the 25 original 1 A clears today. At night, the AM channels have so much interference that they don't cover much that is not covered by FMs, too. And in any case, night radio listening is very low... about 10% of all radio listening. So saying people are dependent on the clear channel stations when, in fact, there is scant listening to stations outside their metro areas, is exaggeration. There is some, but it is almost statistically insignificant today. Almost 50% of radio listening is done in cars - almost zero at home. The truth is that in-car averages about 30%, with the low being around 24% in New York City and the highs in long-commute markets like LA where it is around 32%. At work and in home account for a bit over a third each. Bridge Ratings Industry Study : In-Car Media Use A company that is no longer around vs. 43 years of Arbitron studies in, currently, over 280 markets? Bridge had a sample of about 1000. Arbitron surveys three or 4 million a year. |
Move Am's to channels 5&6?
On Aug 9, 3:36*am, wrote:
On Aug 7, 1:53*pm, RHF wrote: On Aug 7, 7:39*am, m II wrote: Dave wrote: What about places where FM doesn't work? *AM radio is all we got. I should have been clearer in my posting. If they move anything out of the AM band, it should be only the IBOC noise makers. All the normal AM stations stay exactly where they are. In my own case, I listen to more AM than FM. I can't help but think that moving the whole of the AM band to another venue will be nothing more than a money grab, with pay as you go subscription cards. mike -- The AM/MW Radio Band in the USA needs to have the number of Radio Stations reduced by Half to 2/3rds or even down to 1/4th. Move the excess AM/MW Radio Stations to an expanded FM Radio Band that is All Digital. ~ RHF * I think everyone would agree that medium wave is badly overcrowded, especially if you listen to the jumbled mess you can often hear at night. However, given the MASSIVE duplication of programming content on AM radio -- especially at night when you can't swing a dead cat without hearing "Coast to Coast AM" on about a zillion different stations, but even during the daytime with syndicated shows being found on multiple places on the dial almost anywhere you go, why not just get rid of the excess stations? - If a station doesn't carry some minimum of locally-produced - content, why not just cancel their license? * Right-On ! It's hard to argue that being the third or fourth station in a market to carry Sean Hannity or Doctor Laura is in the public interest in any significant way. *It's just wasting spectrum. *If the stations can't come up with their own content, they should go dark and leave room for stations that can. Problem solved. *And better programming results when the remaining stations serve their communities. Simple!- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
Is Talk Radio Really Full of Hate and Lies ?
On Aug 9, 9:44*am, Drifter wrote:
wrote: On Aug 7, 1:53 pm, RHF wrote: On Aug 7, 7:39 am, m II wrote: Dave wrote: What about places where FM doesn't work? *AM radio is all we got. I should have been clearer in my posting. If they move anything out of the AM band, it should be only the IBOC noise makers. All the normal AM stations stay exactly where they are. In my own case, I listen to more AM than FM. I can't help but think that moving the whole of the AM band to another venue will be nothing more than a money grab, with pay as you go subscription cards. mike -- The AM/MW Radio Band in the USA needs to have the number of Radio Stations reduced by Half to 2/3rds or even down to 1/4th. Move the excess AM/MW Radio Stations to an expanded FM Radio Band that is All Digital. ~ RHF I think everyone would agree that medium wave is badly overcrowded, especially if you listen to the jumbled mess you can often hear at night. I wouldn't say overcrowded, it more conditions. 30 years ago, night- time was all about the clears, and most local were low power at night. However, given the MASSIVE duplication of programming content on AM radio -- especially at night when you can't swing a dead cat without hearing "Coast to Coast AM" on about a zillion different stations, but even during the daytime with syndicated shows being found on multiple places on the dial almost anywhere you go, why not just get rid of the excess stations? Duplication is the main trouble today. the only difference with the locals is news and sponsor spots. my fav local is a little 5Kw daylight and 500w night. it can be a bit hard to pull in, but programing is about 80% local. mom and pop style station. If a station doesn't carry some minimum of locally-produced content, why not just cancel their license? *It's hard to argue that being the third or fourth station in a market to carry Sean Hannity or Doctor Laura is in the public interest in any significant way. *It's just wasting spectrum. *If the stations can't come up with their own content, they should go dark and leave room for stations that can. you right and i'm all for that. - i get so tired of the hate and lies on talk radio. I am getting so tired of the Hate and Lies about Talk Radio. Can't Stand Someone Else's Opinion {View-Point} - - - Call It Hate ! Disagree with the 'other' Half of the Facts {Full-Picture} - - - Call Them Lies ! Problem solved. *And better programming results when the remaining stations serve their communities. Simple! Drifter...- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
(OT) : Mike -proclaims- Talk Radio - It's Junk Information
On Aug 9, 10:23*am, m II wrote:
Drifter wrote: you right and i'm all for that. i get so tired of the hate and lies on talk radio. And it comes from both sides of the political scene. The Hosts on those shows are just entertainers. It is in their own interest to get the audience worked up. If that takes mis-representation or sensationalism to do, that is what they do. - It's junk information. - Talk radio is to Truth as Pro wrestling is to Sport. - - mike Can't Stand Someone Else's Opinion {View-Point} - - - Call It Hate ! Disagree with the 'other' Half of the Facts {Full-Picture} - - - Call Them Lies ! |
(OT) : Mike -proclaims- Talk Radio - It's Junk Information
RHF wrote:
Can't Stand Someone Else's Opinion {View-Point} - - - Call It Hate ! Disagree with the 'other' Half of the Facts {Full-Picture} - - - Call Them Lies ! That is exactly what they do. You have a keen eye. That sort of talk gets the listening audience all worked up. They tell their friends. The Talk Show host prays that he gets a bigger audience. No audience, no talk show host. mike -- __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ / /\ / /\ / /\ / /\ / /\ / /\ / /\ / / / /\ \/ /\ \/This space for rent/\ \/ /\ \/ / /_/ \/_/ \/_/ \/_/ \/_/ \/_/ \/_/ \/_/ Densa International© 'Think tanks cleaned cheap' Due to the insane amount of spam and garbage, I block all postings with a Gmail, Google Mail, Google Groups or HOTMAIL address. I also filter everything from a .cn server. http://improve-usenet.org/ |
Move Am's to channels 5&6?
On Aug 9, 4:44*pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Telamon" wrote in message ... In article , "David Eduardo" wrote: "Art Harris" wrote in message .... wrote: *A group made up primarily of broadcast consulting engineers proposes a new use for TV Channels 5 and 6 in the United States once their occupants migrate to digital. It recommends the reallocation of part of that spectrum for the use of the country's AM stations. Many rural areas of the country are dependent on 50kw clear channel AM stations for basic news and entertainment. 75MHz AM stations aren't going to cut it. The clear channels don't generally cover much that is not covered by dozens of FMs in and around each market the 25 original 1 A clears today. At night, the AM channels have so much interference that they don't cover much that is not covered by FMs, too. And in any case, night radio listening is very low... about 10% of all radio listening. So saying people are dependent on the clear channel stations when, in fact, there is scant listening to stations outside their metro areas, is exaggeration. There is some, but it is almost statistically insignificant today. You are so full of it Eduardo. I invite you to talk to any group manager in radio. I can't imagine any of them saying anything different, - because we all live by the same metrics - and information and sales realities. Sales Reaities are NOT Listener Realities. the only 'metric' i need is my ears ~ RHF |
Move Am's to channels 5&6?
David Eduardo wrote:
"Dave" wrote in message ... David Eduardo wrote: "Telamon" wrote in message ... I can't imagine any of them saying anything different, because we all live by the same metrics and information and sales realities. You live in a reality of your own making. It's the reality of our entire industry. The "reality" of your "industry" is that when you try to run it like a factory you ruin the product. You make crap because you have no idea what you're doing. You forget the intangibles and let the number crunchers pick the songs. You have no one to blame but yourselves. Huh? In markets like LA, the one you are in, all the significant stations let the listeners pick the music. And there is an incredible amount of talent on the air, doing spontaneous, live and entertaining radio. Letting the listeners pick the music insures a "closed system" that never takes chances or breaks new ground. Radio should "lead" not "follow". |
(OT) : Mike -proclaims- Talk Radio - It's Junk Information
RHF wrote:
On Aug 9, 10:23 am, m II wrote: Drifter wrote: you right and i'm all for that. i get so tired of the hate and lies on talk radio. And it comes from both sides of the political scene. The Hosts on those shows are just entertainers. It is in their own interest to get the audience worked up. If that takes mis-representation or sensationalism to do, that is what they do. - It's junk information. - Talk radio is to Truth as Pro wrestling is to Sport. - - mike Can't Stand Someone Else's Opinion {View-Point} - - - Call It Hate ! Disagree with the 'other' Half of the Facts {Full-Picture} - - - Call Them Lies ! . one man's junk information . . . is another man's treasured truth ~ RHF . -ps- radio just listen and you will hear . If a visceral contempt for government (i. e. "the people") and an unchecked willingness to sell off the commons to the highest bidder doesn't equal "hate", what does? |
Move Am's to channels 5&6?
David Eduardo wrote:
If a station doesn't carry some minimum of locally-produced content, why not just cancel their license? In a multi-station market, why is this necessary? If there is a need for it, some station will fulfill it. Otherwise, there is no need. Radio should foster a sense of "community". The NAB is always claiming AM/FM have (has?) a "local" advantage vs. satellite and web radio; put up or shut-up. |
Move Am's to channels 5&6?
"Dave" wrote in message ... David Eduardo wrote: "Dave" wrote in message ... David Eduardo wrote: "Telamon" wrote in message ... I can't imagine any of them saying anything different, because we all live by the same metrics and information and sales realities. You live in a reality of your own making. It's the reality of our entire industry. The "reality" of your "industry" is that when you try to run it like a factory you ruin the product. You make crap because you have no idea what you're doing. You forget the intangibles and let the number crunchers pick the songs. You have no one to blame but yourselves. Huh? In markets like LA, the one you are in, all the significant stations let the listeners pick the music. And there is an incredible amount of talent on the air, doing spontaneous, live and entertaining radio. Letting the listeners pick the music insures a "closed system" that never takes chances or breaks new ground. Radio should "lead" not "follow". On new songs, the programmers pick, and then follow up very soon with inquiries to the listeners. If they don't like the new songs, they are eliminated. In today's moment by moment audience measurement, there is no way to play unfamiliar or unusual music. |
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