On Aug 25, 4:31*pm, Dave wrote:
On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 13:20:53 -0700, RHF wrote:

Ham Radio 'existed' before the so-called "Sound Card".

For that matter Radio was 'history' way before the "Sound Card".

radio just listen ~ RHF
*.

- The point of amateur radio is to not "just listen",
- but to transmit as well. *There are several "digital"
- modes that use a PC sound card, and these are
- a hoot. You can "listen" to PSK31 very easily:
-
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQpBGh9RMEQ
-
- It's quite the sensation; *you can work the world
- with 10 Watts or less.

the point of shortwave radio listening (swl) is to . . .
listen to the radio - be it voice or code ~ RHF

RHF wrote:
On Aug 25, 4:31 pm, Dave wrote:
On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 13:20:53 -0700, RHF wrote:

Ham Radio 'existed' before the so-called "Sound Card".
For that matter Radio was 'history' way before the "Sound Card".
radio just listen ~ RHF
.
- The point of amateur radio is to not "just listen",
- but to transmit as well. There are several "digital"
- modes that use a PC sound card, and these are
- a hoot. You can "listen" to PSK31 very easily:
-
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQpBGh9RMEQ
-
- It's quite the sensation; you can work the world
- with 10 Watts or less.

the point of shortwave radio listening (swl) is to . . .
listen to the radio - be it voice or code ~ RHF

The word "listen" doesn't appear in the name of the group. The hobby is
about technical skills. Any mouth-breather can buy fancy radios and
string up a wire and hear a 100,000 (and up) Watts radio station from
the other side of the world; it takes a lot of skill and a lot of luck
to see someone typing on a keyboard in New Zealand working the Pacific
Northwest on 5 Watts. PSK31 is more efficient than CW.

Dave wrote:

RHF wrote:
On Aug 25, 4:31 pm, Dave wrote:
On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 13:20:53 -0700, RHF wrote:

Ham Radio 'existed' before the so-called "Sound Card".
For that matter Radio was 'history' way before the "Sound Card".
radio just listen ~ RHF
.
- The point of amateur radio is to not "just listen",
- but to transmit as well. There are several "digital"
- modes that use a PC sound card, and these are
- a hoot. You can "listen" to PSK31 very easily:
-
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQpBGh9RMEQ
-
- It's quite the sensation; you can work the world
- with 10 Watts or less.

the point of shortwave radio listening (swl) is to . . .
listen to the radio - be it voice or code ~ RHF

The word "listen" doesn't appear in the name of the group. The hobby is
about technical skills. Any mouth-breather can buy fancy radios and
string up a wire and hear a 100,000 (and up) Watts radio station from
the other side of the world; it takes a lot of skill and a lot of luck
to see someone typing on a keyboard in New Zealand working the Pacific
Northwest on 5 Watts.

See them? Is that that 'remote viewing' that I hear about on C2C?

dxAce wrote:

Any mouth-breather can buy fancy radios and
string up a wire and hear a 100,000 (and up) Watts radio station from
the other side of the world; it takes a lot of skill and a lot of luck
to see someone typing on a keyboard in New Zealand working the Pacific
Northwest on 5 Watts.

See them? Is that that 'remote viewing' that I hear about on C2C?


No. It's like RTTY, only with lower case letters and backspace.

Dave wrote:

See them? Is that that 'remote viewing' that I hear about on C2C?


No. It's like RTTY, only with lower case letters and backspace.


Trust the drunk to associate ham radio with 'psychic' phenomena. I
notice the lower case lettering is in addition to the formerly all caps.
display. Neat.



mike



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On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 15:42:20 +0000, m II wrote:

Dave wrote:

See them? Is that that 'remote viewing' that I hear about on C2C?


No. It's like RTTY, only with lower case letters and backspace.


Trust the drunk to associate ham radio with 'psychic' phenomena. I
notice the lower case lettering is in addition to the formerly all caps.
display. Neat.



Full ascii character set, as far as I can tell. I use gMFSK.

http://gmfsk.connect.fi/

In article wvVsk.10003$%b7.469@edtnps82, m II wrote:

Dave wrote:

See them? Is that that 'remote viewing' that I hear about on C2C?


No. It's like RTTY, only with lower case letters and backspace.


Trust the drunk to associate ham radio with 'psychic' phenomena. I
notice the lower case lettering is in addition to the formerly all caps.
display. Neat.

Despite what you two think radio teletype has a fully character set with
upper and lower case.

If you want to discuss transmitting go to one of many amateur news
groups.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

On Aug 26, 5:38*am, Dave wrote:
RHF wrote:
On Aug 25, 4:31 pm, Dave wrote:
On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 13:20:53 -0700, RHF wrote:

Ham Radio 'existed' before the so-called "Sound Card".
For that matter Radio was 'history' way before the "Sound Card".
radio just listen ~ RHF
*.
- The point of amateur radio is to not "just listen",
- but to transmit as well. *There are several "digital"
- modes that use a PC sound card, and these are
- a hoot. You can "listen" to PSK31 very easily:
-
-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQpBGh9RMEQ
-
- It's quite the sensation; *you can work the world
- with 10 Watts or less.

the point of shortwave radio listening (swl) is to . . .
listen to the radio - be it voice or code ~ RHF

- The word "listen" doesn't appear in the name
- of the group.

And clearly you do not listen.

-*The hobby is about technical skills.

Honestly the 'hobby' in it simplist form
it is basically listening to the radio.

-*Any mouth-breather can buy fancy radios and
- string up a wire and hear a 100,000 (and up)
- Watts radio station from the other side of the world;

That is what makes Shortwave Radio Listening (SWL)
a common-man's Hobby -cause- any mouth-breather
can do it and enjoy it : Without getting into becoming
a Techno-Phobic Zealot.

-*it takes a lot of skill and a lot of luck to see someone
- typing on a keyboard in New Zealand working the Pacific
- Northwest on 5 Watts.

For the simple ENJOYMENT of Listening to the Radio
skill and luck are basic :
* Skill Turn-On the Radio
* Luck to Turn-In something to Listen to and Enjoy.

-*PSK31 is more efficient than CW.

Nothing more 'basic' {efficient} then the Sound of Voice,
Song and Music to the Human Ear -and- We All Can Do It ! )

Dave,

For Me Life is Simple : All I need is a Radio with
a built-in Speaker : NO SOFTWARE REGUIRED.

just another mouth-breating shortwave radio listener ~ RHF

On Aug 26, 5:38*am, Dave wrote:
RHF wrote:
On Aug 25, 4:31 pm, Dave wrote:
On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 13:20:53 -0700, RHF wrote:

Ham Radio 'existed' before the so-called "Sound Card".
For that matter Radio was 'history' way before the "Sound Card".
radio just listen ~ RHF
*.
- The point of amateur radio is to not "just listen",
- but to transmit as well. *There are several "digital"
- modes that use a PC sound card, and these are
- a hoot. You can "listen" to PSK31 very easily:
-
-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQpBGh9RMEQ
-
- It's quite the sensation; *you can work the world
- with 10 Watts or less.

the point of shortwave radio listening (swl) is to . . .
listen to the radio - be it voice or code ~ RHF

The word "listen" doesn't appear in the name of the group. *The hobby is
about technical skills. *Any mouth-breather can buy fancy radios and
string up a wire and hear a 100,000 (and up) Watts radio station from
the other side of the world; *it takes a lot of skill and a lot of luck
to see someone typing on a keyboard in New Zealand working the Pacific
Northwest on 5 Watts.

-*PSK31 is more efficient than CW.

PSK31 Description - What is PSK31 ?
http://aintel.bi.ehu.es/psk31.html
http://www.tech-faq.com/psk31.shtml
http://www.spiritus-temporis.com/psk31/history.html
http://hamradio.arc.nasa.gov/meeting...sentation.html

PSK31 -or- "Phase Shift Keying, 31 Baud"
is a Digital Radio Modulation Mode
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PSK31

PSK31 -source- ARRL
http://www.arrl.org/tis/info/psk31.html

PSK31 : Software for PSK31
http://www.dxzone.com/catalog/Software/PSK31/

Video Introduction to PSK31 - How To Receive PSK31
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQpBGh9RMEQ

dave - i remain just an old radio listener
hearing it with my own two ears ~ RHF