On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 16:30:21 +0000, m II wrote:

Dave wrote:

I don't have time for your entire screed, but reporters ARE supposed to
be part of the process. They are supposed to speak truth to power and
stick up for the common person.


Reporters are supposed to report. Report without fear, favouritism or
prejudice. Report without injecting editorial style commentary or
interpretation. Just report.

They aren't there to speak the truth to anyone. They are there to ASK
the truth and to ask it from as many sources as they can.

If the reporters do their part honestly and properly, the 'common
person' should handle the rest. Fear of death and retaliation sometimes
prevents that handling.

Fact belongs on the first page. Editorial comment belongs on a clearly
labelled page four.

"Facts have a liberal bias."

Deciding what goes on page 1 is a subjective process. The press is
supposed to be skeptical and is supposed to mock the absurd. This is why
Jon Stewart has more credibility than anybody else. He gets it.

Dave wrote:
On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 16:30:21 +0000, m II wrote:

Dave wrote:

I don't have time for your entire screed, but reporters ARE supposed to
be part of the process. They are supposed to speak truth to power and
stick up for the common person.

Reporters are supposed to report. Report without fear, favouritism or
prejudice. Report without injecting editorial style commentary or
interpretation. Just report.

They aren't there to speak the truth to anyone. They are there to ASK
the truth and to ask it from as many sources as they can.

If the reporters do their part honestly and properly, the 'common
person' should handle the rest. Fear of death and retaliation sometimes
prevents that handling.

Fact belongs on the first page. Editorial comment belongs on a clearly
labelled page four.

"Facts have a liberal bias."

Deciding what goes on page 1 is a subjective process. The press is
supposed to be skeptical and is supposed to mock the absurd. This is why
Jon Stewart has more credibility than anybody else. He gets it.


By that logic, National Lampoon is a News Magazine.

On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 18:20:05 +0000, D Peter Maus wrote:


"Facts have a liberal bias."

Deciding what goes on page 1 is a subjective process. The press is
supposed to be skeptical and is supposed to mock the absurd. This is
why Jon Stewart has more credibility than anybody else. He gets it.


By that logic, National Lampoon is a News Magazine.

As valid as Time or Newsweek.

Dave wrote:
On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 18:20:05 +0000, D Peter Maus wrote:

"Facts have a liberal bias."

Deciding what goes on page 1 is a subjective process. The press is
supposed to be skeptical and is supposed to mock the absurd. This is
why Jon Stewart has more credibility than anybody else. He gets it.

By that logic, National Lampoon is a News Magazine.

As valid as Time or Newsweek.



Yes, because National Lampoon is a bastion of factual accuracy
and journalistic commitment.

Citing Jon Stewart as a source of credibility is sign of a rather
slender contact on reality.

On Aug 27, 1:26*pm, D Peter Maus wrote:
Dave wrote:
On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 18:20:05 +0000, D Peter Maus wrote:

"Facts have a liberal bias."

Deciding what goes on page 1 is a subjective process. *The press is
supposed to be skeptical and is supposed to mock the absurd. *This is
why Jon Stewart has more credibility than anybody else. *He gets it..

- - -*By that logic, National Lampoon is a News Magazine.

- - As valid as Time or Newsweek.

-*Yes, because National Lampoon is a bastion of
- factual accuracy and journalistic commitment.

An often more entertaining

Citing Jon Stewart as a source of credibility
is sign of a rather slender contact on reality.

On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:44:11 -0700, RHF wrote:




An often more entertaining

Citing Jon Stewart as a source of credibility is sign of a rather
slender contact on reality.

The National Lampoon is satire, as is Jon Stewart. Satire (look it up)
is an extremely powerful form of topical commentary. But you need two
things:

1. a sufficiently developed intellect

and

B. a sense of humor

Dave wrote:

On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:44:11 -0700, RHF wrote:


An often more entertaining

Citing Jon Stewart as a source of credibility is sign of a rather
slender contact on reality.

The National Lampoon is satire, as is Jon Stewart. Satire (look it up)
is an extremely powerful form of topical commentary. But you need two
things:

1. a sufficiently developed intellect

and

B. a sense of humor

Kinda leaves you out, Rickets.

Dave wrote:
On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:44:11 -0700, RHF wrote:



An often more entertaining

Citing Jon Stewart as a source of credibility is sign of a rather
slender contact on reality.

The National Lampoon is satire, as is Jon Stewart. Satire (look it up)
is an extremely powerful form of topical commentary. But you need two
things:

1. a sufficiently developed intellect

and

B. a sense of humor



Satire is not reportage of fact.

Credibility is not a function of effective satire. It's a
function of accuracy of reported fact.