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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/0..._n_121970.html

"Last year was an unusual year when wind currents and other weather
conditions coincided with global warming to worsen sea ice melt, Serreze
said. Scientists wondered if last year was an unusual event or the start
of a new and disturbing trend.

This year's results suggest the latter because the ice had recovered a
bit more than usual thanks to a somewhat cooler winter, Serreze said.
Then this month, when the melting rate usually slows, it sped up
instead, he said."
-AP

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On Aug 28, 9:33 am, Dave wrote:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/0...-drops-to-2_n_...

"Last year was an unusual year when wind currents and other weather
conditions coincided with global warming to worsen sea ice melt, Serreze
said. Scientists wondered if last year was an unusual event or the start
of a new and disturbing trend.

This year's results suggest the latter because the ice had recovered a
bit more than usual thanks to a somewhat cooler winter, Serreze said.
Then this month, when the melting rate usually slows, it sped up
instead, he said."
-AP


- So how does that affect me?

Does it affect the RNC up in The Twin Cities?

I don't live anywhere around the Artic..

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Meanwhile, there is more snow in the Anartic.It is always snowing
somewhere on Earth.
cuhulin

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On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 12:12:31 -0700, cheley_bonstell88 wrote:


- So how does that affect me?

Does it affect the RNC up in The Twin Cities?

I don't live anywhere around the Artic..

It affects everyone. The thermohaline circulator requires a precise mix
of cold/warm/salt/fresh water in the oceans near Greenland. If the
circulator changes famines ensue.

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Dave wrote:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/0..._n_121970.html

"Last year was an unusual year when wind currents and other weather
conditions coincided with global warming to worsen sea ice melt, Serreze
said. Scientists wondered if last year was an unusual event or the start
of a new and disturbing trend.

This year's results suggest the latter because the ice had recovered a
bit more than usual thanks to a somewhat cooler winter, Serreze said.
Then this month, when the melting rate usually slows, it sped up
instead, he said."
-AP

More k00k fodder.

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On Aug 28, 4:46 pm, Dave wrote:
On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 12:12:31 -0700, cheley_bonstell88 wrote:

- So how does that affect me?

Does it affect the RNC up in The Twin Cities?

I don't live anywhere around the Artic..

It affects everyone. The thermohaline circulator requires a precise mix
of cold/warm/salt/fresh water in the oceans near Greenland. If the
circulator changes famines ensue.

Thermohaline Circulator ?
Whazzat ?

- So I go down to the Piggly Wiggly and buy Groceries..

Wheres the famine ?

**** the Polar Bears..

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And those stupid bamboo eating bears too.I HATE bears!

Piggly Wiggly pioneered a lot of things we take for granted at the food
stores.
cuhulin

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On Aug 28, 6:51 pm, wrote:
And those stupid bamboo eating bears too.I HATE bears!

Piggly Wiggly pioneered a lot of things we take for granted at the food
stores.
cuhulin

70 Hour week,

low wages

No Health Benefits

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dxAce said :

More k00k fodder.



Coming over tonight, stud?




Cowboy

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Cowboy wrote:

dxAce said :

More k00k fodder.

Coming over tonight, stud?

Let me guess... you live on Brokeback Mountain?

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dxAce wrote:

Dave wrote:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/0..._n_121970.html

"Last year was an unusual year when wind currents and other weather
conditions coincided with global warming to worsen sea ice melt, Serreze
said. Scientists wondered if last year was an unusual event or the start
of a new and disturbing trend.

This year's results suggest the latter because the ice had recovered a
bit more than usual thanks to a somewhat cooler winter, Serreze said.
Then this month, when the melting rate usually slows, it sped up
instead, he said."
-AP

More k00k fodder.


http://www.strategicstudiesinstitute....Cfm?pubID=779

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Dave wrote:

dxAce wrote:

Dave wrote:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/0..._n_121970.html

"Last year was an unusual year when wind currents and other weather
conditions coincided with global warming to worsen sea ice melt, Serreze
said. Scientists wondered if last year was an unusual event or the start
of a new and disturbing trend.

This year's results suggest the latter because the ice had recovered a
bit more than usual thanks to a somewhat cooler winter, Serreze said.
Then this month, when the melting rate usually slows, it sped up
instead, he said."
-AP

More k00k fodder.


http://www.strategicstudiesinstitute....Cfm?pubID=779

More k00k fodder.

NoBama, no cry!

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dxAce wrote:

Dave wrote:

dxAce wrote:
Dave wrote:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/0..._n_121970.html

"Last year was an unusual year when wind currents and other weather
conditions coincided with global warming to worsen sea ice melt, Serreze
said. Scientists wondered if last year was an unusual event or the start
of a new and disturbing trend.

This year's results suggest the latter because the ice had recovered a
bit more than usual thanks to a somewhat cooler winter, Serreze said.
Then this month, when the melting rate usually slows, it sped up
instead, he said."
-AP
More k00k fodder.


http://www.strategicstudiesinstitute....Cfm?pubID=779

More k00k fodder.

NoBama, no cry!


You're calling the US Army "kooks"?

(OT) : Weather Radar Confirms . . . Arctic Ice Melt Speeding Up -- - Vroom !
 

- It affects everyone.
- The thermohaline circulator requires a precise mix of
- cold/warm/salt/fresh water in the oceans near Greenland.
- If the circulator changes famines ensue.

Dave many of us await a 'famine' of your postings.

(OT) : Weather Radar Confirms . . .
Arctic Ice Melt Speeding Up - - - Vroom !
http://www.freewebs.com/airawareness....ice_break.jpg
http://tumyeto.com/images/uploaded/vroom_opt.gif

-ps- If you really really believe in 'global warming'
why are you still exhaling ?
-pps- save the planet one breath at a time.

. Dave wrote:
dxAce wrote:

Dave wrote:

dxAce wrote:
Dave wrote:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/0..._n_121970.html


"Last year was an unusual year when wind currents and other weather
conditions coincided with global warming to worsen sea ice melt,
Serreze
said. Scientists wondered if last year was an unusual event or the
start
of a new and disturbing trend.

This year's results suggest the latter because the ice had recovered a
bit more than usual thanks to a somewhat cooler winter, Serreze said.
Then this month, when the melting rate usually slows, it sped up
instead, he said."
-AP
More k00k fodder.


http://www.strategicstudiesinstitute....Cfm?pubID=779

More k00k fodder.

NoBama, no cry!


You're calling the US Army "kooks"?

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There is a good reason Arianna Huffington is known as "airhead"
Huffington here in California

Dave wrote:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/0..._n_121970.html


"Last year was an unusual year when wind currents and other weather
conditions coincided with global warming to worsen sea ice melt, Serreze
said. Scientists wondered if last year was an unusual event or the start
of a new and disturbing trend.

This year's results suggest the latter because the ice had recovered a
bit more than usual thanks to a somewhat cooler winter, Serreze said.
Then this month, when the melting rate usually slows, it sped up
instead, he said."
-AP

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On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 13:57:41 -0700, ka6uup wrote:

There is a good reason Arianna Huffington is known as "airhead"
Huffington here in California

I've never heard her called that. What's your super-clever name for
Steve Forbes? 'cause he published the same story:

http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2008/...ap5364742.html

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RHF wrote:
On Aug 29, 2:26 pm, Dave wrote:
On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 13:57:41 -0700, ka6uup wrote:
- - There is a good reason Arianna Huffington
- - is known as "airhead" Huffington here in California

Aria Huff-an-Puff-a-Ton
http://bp2.blogger.com/_MyrnRTwTUFk/.../s400/Arianna%


I've never heard her called that.

- What's your super-clever name for Steve Forbes?
- 'cause he published the same story:
-
- http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2008/...ap5364742.html

Stevy Ford Burps - The 'real' Smoking Man {Shadow}
http://www.df.lth.se/~ola/pictures/smoking.jpg
http://bp1.blogger.com/_T-xuvJGhTp4/...he+Shadow).jpg
.



Interesting propaganda. Like Noah Wylie whining about the
impending doom of the polar bears. 95% of which have migrated south
into the populated areas of Canada, btw. Why? Because they were all
fans of the late Sam Kinison who said, "there'd be no starvation if
everybody'd just MOVE TO WHERE THE FOOD IS!"

Notice that this polar sea ice story is about this year...the
SECOND lowest level of sea ice since records began in 1979.

No one mentioned last year that it was the LOWEST level of sea
ice since 1979.

Which suggests what even the so-called 'experts' have been
admitting now for three years is true: that the warming has stopped
and cooling has begun.

Even the global warming zealots have admitted, in the face of
their own data, there has been no warming since 1998.

And Al "I'm going to rule the goddamned country if I have to
manufacture a panic to do it" Gore has even admitted that the
warming has subsided. Now claiming that in 10 years there will be
explosive warmth, and we'll all be doomed.

For this religion, the worship never ends. Even when the mythos
has been exposed.

NOAA has said that the warmest year on record was not 1996 as had
been stated by the global warming movement, but rather 1934. When
the only SUV on the road would be the Chevy Suburban, a year away. A
point that Al "I'm not going to argue this issue, so don't EVEN
think of putting me at a table with anybody other than a sympathetic
interviewer" Gore refuses to explain.

Ice core samples from both poles as well as core samples from
every continent have been pointing to the fact that the warmest
period in Earth history was 700 years ago, when all the Hummer
dealers were closed.

Global climate, as everything on this planet, is in constant
flux. It's cyclic in nature, shows some parallels to sunspot cycles
(just like the hole in the ozone) and long trends over time show the
climate to be cooling.

Arianna "I only take private jets, but it's no big deal because
they're going that way anyway" Huffington is an airhead.

Steve Forbes is a useful idiot who's very good in business.

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D Peter Maus wrote:

Notice that this polar sea ice story is about this year...the SECOND
lowest level of sea ice since records began in 1979.

No one mentioned last year that it was the LOWEST level of sea ice
since 1979.


NOAA has said that the warmest year on record was not 1996 as had been
stated by the global warming movement, but rather 1934. When the only
SUV on the road would be the Chevy Suburban, a year away. A point that
Al "I'm not going to argue this issue, so don't EVEN think of putting me
at a table with anybody other than a sympathetic interviewer" Gore
refuses to explain.

You didn't read the story very carefully. It clearly states that the
ice is still melting and this may still end up as the year with the
least ice. When GM started making their Suburban-esque vehical it was
called the Carry All. I used to drive one. When gas was 75 cents a gallon.

There are variations due to solar cycles, wars, volcanoes, but the
moving average is going up; regardless of your denials. Anybody can
excise a little piece of a trend to attempt to prove a point, and the
gullible will gladly play along.

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Dave wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote:

Notice that this polar sea ice story is about this year...the SECOND
lowest level of sea ice since records began in 1979.

No one mentioned last year that it was the LOWEST level of sea ice
since 1979.


NOAA has said that the warmest year on record was not 1996 as had
been stated by the global warming movement, but rather 1934. When the
only SUV on the road would be the Chevy Suburban, a year away. A point
that Al "I'm not going to argue this issue, so don't EVEN think of
putting me at a table with anybody other than a sympathetic
interviewer" Gore refuses to explain.

You didn't read the story very carefully.

Actually, yes, I did.


When GM started making their Suburban-esque vehical it was
called the Carry All.

The Suburban was introduced in 1935 as the Suburban CarryAll. You
may want to brush up.



There are variations due to solar cycles, wars, volcanoes, but the
moving average is going up; regardless of your denials. Anybody can
excise a little piece of a trend to attempt to prove a point, and the
gullible will gladly play along.


A little piece of a trend: from the 11th century to present. Yes,
I see your point.

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In article ,
Dave wrote:

D Peter Maus wrote:

Notice that this polar sea ice story is about this year...the SECOND
lowest level of sea ice since records began in 1979.

No one mentioned last year that it was the LOWEST level of sea ice
since 1979.


NOAA has said that the warmest year on record was not 1996 as had been
stated by the global warming movement, but rather 1934. When the only
SUV on the road would be the Chevy Suburban, a year away. A point that
Al "I'm not going to argue this issue, so don't EVEN think of putting me
at a table with anybody other than a sympathetic interviewer" Gore
refuses to explain.

You didn't read the story very carefully. It clearly states that the
ice is still melting and this may still end up as the year with the
least ice. When GM started making their Suburban-esque vehical it was
called the Carry All. I used to drive one. When gas was 75 cents a gallon.

There are variations due to solar cycles, wars, volcanoes, but the
moving average is going up; regardless of your denials. Anybody can
excise a little piece of a trend to attempt to prove a point, and the
gullible will gladly play along.

If you believe this global warming crap you have a lot to learn. The
time spans for climate change span many thousands of years and have
occurred throughout history cold to hot and hot to cold. These changes
have had nothing to do with man actions. Based on the record through
hundreds of thousands of years climate history we are at the end of a
warming trend and headed for the next ice age. It will be decades before
we know for sure about the current trend. This trend however it turn out
will not even be modified by what man does as the forces of nature that
control these trends dwarf anything mankind does.

Global warming is about control by the ruling elite exemplified by Al
Gore nothing more.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

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A friend of mine owns an older model Chevrolet Surban.I don't remember
which year, but it dates back to the 1970s.About three months ago I
asked him if he wants to sale it.He said, Nope.
cuhulin

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On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 15:33:55 -0700, Telamon wrote:



SNIP

Because they are the most obvious.

If you met him Kerry would [look] down his nose at you.

That would be his loss, not mine.

BTW, he can't help but look down his nose at everybody; he's very tall
and has a huge nose.

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In article ,
Dave wrote:

On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 15:33:55 -0700, Telamon wrote:



SNIP

Because they are the most obvious.

If you met him Kerry would [look] down his nose at you.

That would be his loss, not mine.

BTW, he can't help but look down his nose at everybody; he's very tall
and has a huge nose.

The a reason for everything.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

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On Aug 31, 6:39*am, Dave wrote:
On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 01:05:12 -0700, Telamon wrote:

"Ruling elite"? *You sound like a Sandinista.

Yes. A good example would be John Kerry who never misses an opportunity
to intimidate people he comes across or Al Gore that uses enough oil
resources to power a small town. These guys are just two of many that
think they are better looking, smarter, and deserving of running
roughshod over everyone else's life. Oh yeah, and they can cry crocodile
tears before the camera at the drop of a hat but still be considered
more manly than you because they comprise the elite.

And why do you single out highly visible democrats for such criticism? *
Are you saying the Bushes of Kennebunkport are less elitist than the
Kerrys and the Kennedys of Martha's Vineyard?

- Everybody says JFK was a hero because he cut taxes
- on thw wealthy, so let's go back to those glory days of
- 63% on the top incomes. *Or just close all the loopholes.

CHANGE THE WAY TAXES ARE COLLECTED :
[Make Imported Goods Pay Their Fair Share of the US Budget.]

Flat National Sales Tax (X%) for Every Family of Four (4)
with a combined Income of less-than $180K* per Year.
Result - 80% of AMERICANS PAY AS THEY SPEND
and have No Income Taxes and No Deductions.

Tier # 1 Gross Earnings Tax (X%) of for Every Family
of Four (4) with a combined Income of More-Than $180K*
and less-than $1.8M per Year.
Result - 15% of of High Income Americans Pay a Flat
Gross Earnings Tax that is Equal to the National Sales
Tax with No Deductions.

Tier # 2 Gross Earning Tax (2X%) of for Every Family
of Four (4) with a combined Income of More-Than
$1.8MK* per Year.
Result - The Top 5% of of Richist Earnings Americans
Pay a Flat Earnings Tax that is Twice to the National
Sales Tax with No Deductions.

EARINGS : Income, Interest, Dividends, Capital Gains,
Employee Benefits and Options; Rents, Royalties, etc.

* Three Times the National Average Wage using a Three
Year Running Average.

Household Income in the United States
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Househo..._United_States

Income in the United States
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_..._United_States

Average Income in the United States (1913-2006)
http://www.visualizingeconomics.com/...tes-1913-2006/

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On Sep 1, 4:17*pm, Dave wrote:
On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 15:33:55 -0700, Telamon wrote:

SNIP

- - Because they are the most obvious.
- - If you met him Kerry would [look] down his nose at you.

- That would be his loss, not mine. *
- BTW, he can't help but look down his nose at
- everybody; *he's very tall and has a huge nose.

John 'ff' Kerry's self-imagined Mental Stature has nothing
to do with his Physical Size of the Shape of his Nose.