We don't need Barack Obama to create "change." Things change in
politics, in the economy, and elsewhere in American society, without
waiting for a political messiah to lead us into the promised land.

Despite the incessantly repeated mantra of "change," Barack Obama's
politics is as old as the New Deal.

Senator Obama's statement that "our economy is in turmoil" is standard
stuff on the left and in the mainstream media, which has been dying to
use the word "recession."

Not only has the economic slowdown failed to reach the definition of a
recession, the most recent data show the U.S. economy growing at a
rate exceeding 3 percent-- a rate that many European economies
[socialist] would die for, despite our being constantly urged to
imitate those countries whose end results are not as good as ours.

Barack Obama's "change" is a recycling of the kinds of policies and
rhetoric of the New Deal that prolonged the Great Depression of the
1930s far beyond the duration of any depression before or since.

These are the same kinds of liberal policies that led to double-digit
inflation, double-digit interest rates and rising unemployment during
the Carter administration. These are "back to the future" changes to
economic disasters that need repeating.

Make no mistake, the political rhetoric of FDR was great. For those
who admire political rhetoric, as so many of Barack Obama's supporters
seem to, FDR was tops. For those who go by actual results, FDR's track
record was abysmal.

Senator Obama's rhetoric today is the anti-business and class warfare
rhetoric that worked so brilliantly in a political sense for FDR in
the 1930s. But Obama is following an opposite course from FDR when it
comes to recognizing threats to American national security.

Senator Obama has repeatedly tried to deal with national security
threats with rhetoric. He tried to dismiss the threat of a nuclear
Iran with because Iran is "a small nation"-- even though it is larger
than Japan, which launched a devastating attack against the United
States at Pearl Harbor.

FDR had the good sense to begin urging greater military preparedness
in 1940, more than a year before the United States was attacked. He
said, "If you wait until you see the whites of their eyes, you will
never know what hit you."

Cutting the military budget and taking foreign policy problems to the
United Nations are Obama's version of "change."

That is change that we dare not believe in. It is the audacity of
hype.

http://townhall.com/columnists/Thoma...es_in_politics

wrote:

Senator Obama's statement that "our economy is in turmoil" is standard
stuff on the left and in the mainstream media, which has been dying to
use the word "recession."

Forget Obama, the 'R'(recession) word and the left or the right.

Have you been out in the real world lately?

Gasoline, heating oil, aviation fuel, basic food staples like bread
flour, tuition, medical costs...all experiencing double digit inflation.

Real income down every year since 2000.

Record number of private and business bankruptcies.

The housing/credit scandal and more home repossessions since 1929.

-Millions- of decent paying American manufacturing jobs 'downsized' and
'outsourced' to our friends in India and China.

Yup, the economy is in swell shape. (Although to others who -don't- have
their head in the sand, it may indeed sound like the economy IS "in
turmoil").

However, if you insist on "blaming the messenger", Obama is as good a
target as any, I suppose.

On Aug 30, 9:57*am, Billy Burpelson wrote:
wrote:
Senator Obama's statement that "our economy is in turmoil" is standard
stuff on the left and in the mainstream media, which has been dying to
use the word "recession."

Forget Obama, the 'R'(recession) word and the left or the right.

Have you been out in the real world lately?

Gasoline, heating oil, aviation fuel, basic food staples like bread
flour, tuition, medical costs...all experiencing double digit inflation.

Real income down every year since 2000.

Record number of private and business bankruptcies.

The housing/credit scandal and more home repossessions since 1929.

-Millions- of decent paying American manufacturing jobs 'downsized' and
'outsourced' to our friends in India and China.

Yup, the economy is in swell shape. (Although to others who -don't- have
their head in the sand, it may indeed sound like the economy IS "in
turmoil").

However, if you insist on "blaming the messenger", Obama is as good a
target as any, I suppose.

It is the stupid audacity such as persons like yourself who have
absolutely Zero knowledge of history or any understanding of sound
economic theory which clearly reflects the result of the Public
Education system of which ObaMao is so intimately an architect with
his Neo-Communist Komrad - Professor Ayers.

Comunist propaganda lies are only beleived by the ignorant. That you
have plenty.
http://mises.org/etexts/Mises/anticap.asp

wrote:

Senator Obama's statement that "our economy is in turmoil" is standard
stuff on the left and in the mainstream media, which has been dying to
use the word "recession."

Billy Burpelson wrote:

Forget Obama, the 'R'(recession) word and the left or the right.

Have you been out in the real world lately?

Gasoline, heating oil, aviation fuel, basic food staples like bread
flour, tuition, medical costs...all experiencing double digit inflation.

Real income down every year since 2000.

Record number of private and business bankruptcies.

The housing/credit scandal and more home repossessions since 1929.

-Millions- of decent paying American manufacturing jobs 'downsized' and
'outsourced' to our friends in India and China.

Yup, the economy is in swell shape. (Although to others who -don't- have
their head in the sand, it may indeed sound like the economy IS "in
turmoil").

However, if you insist on "blaming the messenger", Obama is as good a
target as any, I suppose.

wrote:

It is the stupid audacity such as persons like yourself who have
absolutely Zero knowledge of history or any understanding of sound
economic theory

Huh? The mortgage/housing/credit crisis was based on "sound economic
theory"?

which clearly reflects the result of the Public
Education system of which ObaMao is so intimately an architect with
his Neo-Communist Komrad - Professor Ayers.

Comunist propaganda lies are only beleived by the ignorant. That you
have plenty.
http://mises.org/etexts/Mises/anticap.asp

Huh? "stupid audacity", "zero knowledge", "Comunist [sic] propaganda lies"?

Please show me where any of the facts on the state of the economy that I
listed above are not true. (Please read this last sentence again and
read it carefully -- I await your response).

But thanks for answering the question about how often you get out --
it's quite clear you haven't been to a grocery store or gas station
lately. You really should try and get out into the real world a bit more
often. Hey, it ain't pretty sometimes, but at least it's, well...real. :-)

Billy Burpelson wrote:


wrote:


Please show me where any of the facts on the state of the economy that I
listed above are not true. (Please read this last sentence again and
read it carefully -- I await your response).

But thanks for answering the question about how often you get out --
it's quite clear you haven't been to a grocery store or gas station
lately. You really should try and get out into the real world a bit more
often. Hey, it ain't pretty sometimes, but at least it's, well...real.
:-)

come on Billy, it's shoot the messenger. it's his right
to believe any numbers the bush crime family puts out.
remember, bad numbers would look bad for MacInsane.

Drifter...

As goes America's economy, so goes Europe's economy.Have you checked
Britain's economy lately? I have.
cuhulin

On Aug 30, 9:37*am, Drifter wrote:
Billy Burpelson wrote:

wrote:

Please show me where any of the facts on the state of the economy that I
listed above are not true. (Please read this last sentence again and
read it carefully -- I await your response).

But thanks for answering the question about how often you get out --
it's quite clear you haven't been to a grocery store or gas station
lately. You really should try and get out into the real world a bit more
often. Hey, it ain't pretty sometimes, but at least it's, well...real. *
:-)

- come on Billy, it's shoot the messenger. it's his right
- to believe any numbers the bush crime family puts out.
- remember, bad numbers would look bad for MacInsane.
-
- Drifter...

Drifter - What About Da Pelosi & Da Reid Crime Families ?

The Double Digit Heads of Inflation . . .
Nancy Pelosi, D-CA & Harry Reid, D-NV
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...7187d2bf9d7ff3

From the Twin Nut Houses of Tax and Spend ~ RHF

On Aug 30, 11:08*am, Billy Burpelson wrote:
wrote:
Senator Obama's statement that "our economy is in turmoil" is standard
stuff on the left and in the mainstream media, which has been dying to
use the word "recession."
Billy Burpelson wrote:
Forget Obama, the 'R'(recession) word and the left or the right.

Have you been out in the real world lately?

Gasoline, heating oil, aviation fuel, basic food staples like bread
flour, tuition, medical costs...all experiencing double digit inflation.

On Aug 30, 11:08 am, Billy Burpelson wrote:
wrote:
Senator Obama's statement that "our economy is in turmoil" is standard
stuff on the left and in the mainstream media, which has been dying to
use the word "recession."
Billy Burpelson wrote:
Forget Obama, the 'R'(recession) word and the left or the right.
Have you been out in the real world lately?
Gasoline, heating oil, aviation fuel, basic food staples like bread
flour, tuition, medical costs...all experiencing double digit inflation.
Real income down every year since 2000.
Record number of private and business bankruptcies.
The housing/credit scandal and more home repossessions since 1929.
-Millions- of decent paying American manufacturing jobs 'downsized' and
'outsourced' to our friends in India and China.
Yup, the economy is in swell shape. (Although to others who -don't- have
their head in the sand, it may indeed sound like the economy IS "in
turmoil").
However, if you insist on "blaming the messenger", Obama is as good a
target as any, I suppose.
wrote:
It is the stupid audacity such as persons like yourself who have
absolutely Zero knowledge of history or any understanding of sound
economic theory
Huh? The mortgage/housing/credit crisis was based on "sound economic
theory"?

which clearly reflects the result of the Public
Education system of which ObaMao is so intimately an architect with
his Neo-Communist Komrad - Professor Ayers.
Comunist propaganda lies are only beleived by the ignorant. That you
have plenty.
http://mises.org/etexts/Mises/anticap.asp
Huh? "stupid audacity", "zero knowledge", "Comunist [sic] propaganda lies"?



But thanks for answering the question about how often you get out --
it's quite clear you haven't been to a grocery store or gas station
lately. You really should try and get out into the real world a bit more
often. Hey, it ain't pretty sometimes, but at least it's, well...real. :-)

wrote:

Better to keep your mouth closed and be thought a fool than to open it
and remove all doubt.

Well, I asked:

"Please show me where any of the facts on the state of the economy that
I listed above are not true. (Please read this last sentence again and
read it carefully -- I await your response)."

I'll take your non-response to mean that you can't disprove them and
that you think the economy is indeed in swell shape.

And yes, it is better to keep your mouth shut. Only a fool would think
the economy is in good shape and then blame the messenger for stating
otherwise.

On Aug 30, 9:08*am, Billy Burpelson wrote:
wrote:
Senator Obama's statement that "our economy is in turmoil" is standard
stuff on the left and in the mainstream media, which has been dying to
use the word "recession."
Billy Burpelson wrote:
Forget Obama, the 'R'(recession) word and the left or the right.

Have you been out in the real world lately?

Gasoline, heating oil, aviation fuel, basic food staples like bread
flour, tuition, medical costs...all experiencing double digit inflation.