Radio St. Helena Day 08.
 

Drifter wrote:

[snip]


the flash-sheet has been good the last few weeks. i never thought
about the HTML. your right. BTW, did you submit your name for
that list the club was sending to the station for missing qsl's?
of all people, i figured you would have been in the first mailing.

I got an email off to St. Helena this morning about the reception report and whether or not it
was received and if a QSL (verie, for those in Glendale) had been sent.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

Radio St. Helena Day 08.
 

dxAce wrote:

Drifter wrote:

[snip]


the flash-sheet has been good the last few weeks. i never thought
about the HTML. your right. BTW, did you submit your name for
that list the club was sending to the station for missing qsl's?
of all people, i figured you would have been in the first mailing.

I got an email off to St. Helena this morning about the reception report and whether or not it
was received and if a QSL (verie, for those in Glendale) had been sent.

After an email exchange, Laura Lawrence, current Station Mgr. (who leaves the post on Friday) has
told m that she'll be sending me the QSL (verie, for those in Glendale)

She did indicate that for some reason, a lot of reports from the USA seem to have gotten lost in
the post.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

Radio St. Helena Day 08.
 

dxAce wrote:

dxAce wrote:

Drifter wrote:

[snip]


the flash-sheet has been good the last few weeks. i never thought
about the HTML. your right. BTW, did you submit your name for
that list the club was sending to the station for missing qsl's?
of all people, i figured you would have been in the first mailing.

I got an email off to St. Helena this morning about the reception report and whether or not it
was received and if a QSL (verie, for those in Glendale) had been sent.

After an email exchange, Laura Lawrence, current Station Mgr. (who leaves the post on Friday) has
told m that she'll be sending me the QSL (verie, for those in Glendale)

She did indicate that for some reason, a lot of reports from the USA seem to have gotten lost in
the post.

Just got another email from Laura stating that the card will be out next week on the RMS St. Helena.



dxAce
Michigan
USA

Radio St. Helena Day 08.
 

dxAce wrote:

dxAce wrote:

dxAce wrote:

Drifter wrote:

[snip]

the flash-sheet has been good the last few weeks. i never thought
about the HTML. your right. BTW, did you submit your name for
that list the club was sending to the station for missing qsl's?
of all people, i figured you would have been in the first mailing.
I got an email off to St. Helena this morning about the reception report and whether or not it
was received and if a QSL (verie, for those in Glendale) had been sent.
After an email exchange, Laura Lawrence, current Station Mgr. (who leaves the post on Friday) has
told m that she'll be sending me the QSL (verie, for those in Glendale)

She did indicate that for some reason, a lot of reports from the USA seem to have gotten lost in
the post.

Just got another email from Laura stating that the card will be out next week on the RMS St. Helena.


dxAce
Michigan
USA

great. i just saw the post Rich put up about her leaving.
i think i'll send another check to the station. can't wait
to catch them again. how's conditions out you way today?
can't get squat here in w. pa. today. i'm in the middle
of moving one of the long wires in a more southern direction.
see if i can't pull a little more Latin in here.

Drifter...

Radio St. Helena Day 08.
 

Drifter wrote:

dxAce wrote:

dxAce wrote:

dxAce wrote:

Drifter wrote:

[snip]

the flash-sheet has been good the last few weeks. i never thought
about the HTML. your right. BTW, did you submit your name for
that list the club was sending to the station for missing qsl's?
of all people, i figured you would have been in the first mailing.
I got an email off to St. Helena this morning about the reception report and whether or not it
was received and if a QSL (verie, for those in Glendale) had been sent.
After an email exchange, Laura Lawrence, current Station Mgr. (who leaves the post on Friday) has
told m that she'll be sending me the QSL (verie, for those in Glendale)

She did indicate that for some reason, a lot of reports from the USA seem to have gotten lost in
the post.

Just got another email from Laura stating that the card will be out next week on the RMS St. Helena.

great. i just saw the post Rich put up about her leaving.
i think i'll send another check to the station. can't wait
to catch them again. how's conditions out you way today?

I haven't listened since this morning. Got some small thunderstorms moving through the area.

I'm currently listening to Rush on WLS, getting my daily dose of 'hate'. ;-)

Radio St. Helena Day 08.
 

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


I got an email off to St. Helena this morning about the reception report
and whether or not it
was received and if a QSL (verie, for those in Glendale) had been sent.


You are such a moron.

"Verie" has been the term for MW verification in North America since the
EKKO stamp went out of use. While MW DXers will understand the "QSL" term,
we tend to apply it, if at all, to preprinted QSL cards that are reminiscent
of SW cards.

If you look at the 50 Radex magazines from the 20's, 30's and early 40's at
www.americanradiohistroy.com, you will see countless references to "veries"
in the magazines... including the spoof columnist "Count deVeries."

If you have access to old issues of DX News or the IRCA Monitor, you will
see the "Verie Signers" columns as well as achievement tabulations based on
"veries" received. And you will see plenty of NRC "Musings of the Members"
that refer to "veries" of which some were also QSL cards.

The "thing" you will receive from St. Helena is a QSL. Were it for an MW
transmission, it is a verie.

Radio St. Helena Day 08.
 

David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


I got an email off to St. Helena this morning about the reception report
and whether or not it
was received and if a QSL (verie, for those in Glendale) had been sent.


You are such a moron.

You are such a fraud, 'Eduardo'. Now go pretend to own something, boy.



"Verie" has been the term for MW verification in North America since the
EKKO stamp went out of use. While MW DXers will understand the "QSL" term,
we tend to apply it, if at all, to preprinted QSL cards that are reminiscent
of SW cards.

If you look at the 50 Radex magazines from the 20's, 30's and early 40's at
www.americanradiohistroy.com, you will see countless references to "veries"
in the magazines... including the spoof columnist "Count deVeries."

If you have access to old issues of DX News or the IRCA Monitor, you will
see the "Verie Signers" columns as well as achievement tabulations based on
"veries" received. And you will see plenty of NRC "Musings of the Members"
that refer to "veries" of which some were also QSL cards.

The "thing" you will receive from St. Helena is a QSL. Were it for an MW
transmission, it is a verie.

Radio St. Helena Day 08.
 

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


I got an email off to St. Helena this morning about the reception
report
and whether or not it
was received and if a QSL (verie, for those in Glendale) had been sent.


You are such a moron.

You are such a fraud, 'Eduardo'. Now go pretend to own something, boy.

So, you are saying that MW DXers do not call their verifications of
reception "veries" despite overwhelming evidence from all quarters that we
do?

You are pretty sick. Eating those Lampry eels out of Lake Michigan again?


"Verie" has been the term for MW verification in North America since the
EKKO stamp went out of use. While MW DXers will understand the "QSL"
term,
we tend to apply it, if at all, to preprinted QSL cards that are
reminiscent
of SW cards.

If you look at the 50 Radex magazines from the 20's, 30's and early 40's
at
www.americanradiohistroy.com, you will see countless references to
"veries"
in the magazines... including the spoof columnist "Count deVeries."

If you have access to old issues of DX News or the IRCA Monitor, you will
see the "Verie Signers" columns as well as achievement tabulations based
on
"veries" received. And you will see plenty of NRC "Musings of the
Members"
that refer to "veries" of which some were also QSL cards.

The "thing" you will receive from St. Helena is a QSL. Were it for an MW
transmission, it is a verie.

Radio St. Helena Day 08.
 

David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


I got an email off to St. Helena this morning about the reception
report
and whether or not it
was received and if a QSL (verie, for those in Glendale) had been sent.


You are such a moron.

You are such a fraud, 'Eduardo'. Now go pretend to own something, boy.

So, you are saying that MW DXers do not call their verifications of
reception "veries" despite overwhelming evidence from all quarters that we
do?

What I'm saying is that you are such a fraud, 'Eduardo'. Please, try to follow
along, boy.

Radio St. Helena Day 08.
 

David Eduardo wrote:
"dxAce" wrote in message
...

David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...
I got an email off to St. Helena this morning about the reception
report
and whether or not it
was received and if a QSL (verie, for those in Glendale) had been sent.

You are such a moron.
You are such a fraud, 'Eduardo'. Now go pretend to own something, boy.

So, you are saying that MW DXers do not call their verifications of
reception "veries" despite overwhelming evidence from all quarters that we
do?




What he's saying is, though there is standardized terminology
used at any given point for very given circumstance, there are those
who morph one term into another application at will in casual
conversation among peers.

This is not medicine. A high level of specificity is not required
for communication of the point.

BCDXers use the term verie. Hams use the term QSL. My grandfather
did the same thing.

It's like my use of the term ADI. You don't like it. It's no
longer used in the business. Fine. It's no longer used officially.

But in casual conversations with my broadcast colleagues, (as
during lunch with Kipper, Thursday, it expressed an area of specific
dimensions, and commercial implications that current terminology
expresses with other parameters and in a more verbally cumbersome
way. He understood what I was saying. I understood what I was
saying. Two Ringwraiths speaking Orc.

Who cares.

Some here have bristled, here, at the use of the term
'kilocycles' or 'megacycles.' The correct contemprorary useage is
'kilohertz' or 'megahertz.' But experienced types, with a few 9
tower arrays under their belts may easily slip into a useage that's
archaic.

So what?

It's no different than you slipping into Spanish during an
English conversation with your Hispanic colleagues.

Or my college professor friend (since high school) slipping into
Middle English to make a point in a casual conversation among his
contemporaries. We all understand him. But no one is damned pedantic
that we need to correct him. And this is a group of college professors.

Yes, 'verie' refers to MW broadcasts among BCDXers. Got it. Ham
Q-code is a different language.

Lighten up.

Radio St. Helena Day 08.
 

D Peter Maus wrote:

Yes, 'verie' refers to MW broadcasts among BCDXers. Got it. Ham Q-code
is a different language.

Lighten up.


You are inspiring the wrong person. Eduardo knows what the word means.
He isn't the one mocking it's use.


mike


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Radio St. Helena Day 08.
 

m II wrote:

D Peter Maus wrote:

Yes, 'verie' refers to MW broadcasts among BCDXers. Got it. Ham Q-code
is a different language.

Lighten up.

You are inspiring the wrong person. Eduardo knows what the word means.
He isn't the one mocking it's use.

Pay attention, twit. I'm not mocking the use of the word at all. I am, however,
mocking the pedantic 'Eduardo'.

Radio St. Helena Day 08.
 

dxAce wrote:

Pay attention, twit. I'm not mocking the use of the word at all. I am, however,
mocking the pedantic 'Eduardo'.



Why are you so immature?



mike


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Radio St. Helena Day 08.
 

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


I got an email off to St. Helena this morning about the reception
report
and whether or not it
was received and if a QSL (verie, for those in Glendale) had been
sent.


You are such a moron.

You are such a fraud, 'Eduardo'. Now go pretend to own something, boy.

So, you are saying that MW DXers do not call their verifications of
reception "veries" despite overwhelming evidence from all quarters that
we
do?

What I'm saying is that you are such a fraud, 'Eduardo'. Please, try to
follow
along, boy.

What you are saying is that MW verifications are not called "veries" since
you make fun of the term at every opportunity.

You are wrong, of course.

Radio St. Helena Day 08.
 

"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
...
officially.

But in casual conversations with my broadcast colleagues, (as during
lunch with Kipper, Thursday, it expressed an area of specific dimensions,
and commercial implications that current terminology expresses with other
parameters and in a more verbally cumbersome way. He understood what I was
saying. I understood what I was saying. Two Ringwraiths speaking Orc.

Kipper, whoever he is, as well as you, should know that there is a current,
well understood substitute for ADI called the DMA and is the only non-Metro
definition that will be enduring. Arbitron shed the ADI definition when they
quit TV, decades ago. And even the TSA disappears with the PPM.

DMA speaks to current TV markets. ADI speaks to the ones of the 70's...
pre-cable (although not pre-CATV) and pre-satellite and such.

Radio St. Helena Day 08.
 

David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


I got an email off to St. Helena this morning about the reception
report
and whether or not it
was received and if a QSL (verie, for those in Glendale) had been
sent.


You are such a moron.

You are such a fraud, 'Eduardo'. Now go pretend to own something, boy.

So, you are saying that MW DXers do not call their verifications of
reception "veries" despite overwhelming evidence from all quarters that
we
do?

What I'm saying is that you are such a fraud, 'Eduardo'. Please, try to
follow
along, boy.

What you are saying is that MW verifications are not called "veries" since
you make fun of the term at every opportunity.

No, I make fun of you at every opportunity, boy! Now run along and pretend that
you own something!

Radio St. Helena Day 08.
 

David Eduardo wrote:
"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
...
officially.
But in casual conversations with my broadcast colleagues, (as during
lunch with Kipper, Thursday, it expressed an area of specific dimensions,
and commercial implications that current terminology expresses with other
parameters and in a more verbally cumbersome way. He understood what I was
saying. I understood what I was saying. Two Ringwraiths speaking Orc.

Kipper, whoever he is,


Kipper McGee. Program Director of WLS.


as well as you, should know that there is a current,
well understood substitute for ADI called the DMA and is the only non-Metro
definition that will be enduring. Arbitron shed the ADI definition when they
quit TV, decades ago. And even the TSA disappears with the PPM.

DMA speaks to current TV markets. ADI speaks to the ones of the 70's...
pre-cable (although not pre-CATV) and pre-satellite and such.

So what?

Again, all of this is known and understood. But none of which is
important here. Nor is it the point. In casual conversation among
peers, archaic terms are not out of place, out of line, or
inappropriate. Some even create their own language.

Worldwide, metric is the standard. Even in the US, metric
measurements are commonplace, and becoming a defacto standard.

But two meters isn't the same, perceptually, to everyone. Some
prefer yards, and feet. They understand in yards and feet.

Again, so what.

It was even a point of resolution in the original 'Flight of the
Phoenix' between Towns and Dorfmann. Dorfmann, a pedantic little
German, went around correcting everyone in sight. Routinely
dismissing the experiential understandings of other survivors. Even
Captain Towns, whose experience and time in type was beyond
reproach. They argued about everything. Including correct
terminology. And specifically, yards vs meters.

Nonetheless, Dorfmann treated Towns like he was a moron. An
aberration on his own divine scheme. Correcting him at every turn.

In the end, Dorfmann and Towns came to an understanding. The last
line of the movie specifically represented this through the mutual
acceptance of the yard AND the meter.

Yes, you are correct. There are specific terms, more current
terms, and they are, technically speaking, correct. But in the world
of conversation among peers, in the interest of mutual respect,
agreements are made to accept each other's language.

Those that can't.....


well....nobody really wanted to bring along Dorfmann.


Lighten up, David. You two speak different languages. In his
language, he's correct. In yours you are. Trouble is, you think the
rest of the universe needs to adhere to your specifications. Don't
be such a pedantic little tin plated tyrant with delusions of adequacy.

You gotta be a JOY to work for.


(Geez...and they call ME and asshole.....)

Radio St. Helena Day 08.
 

dxAce wrote:

dxAce wrote:

Drifter wrote:

[snip]


the flash-sheet has been good the last few weeks. i never thought
about the HTML. your right. BTW, did you submit your name for
that list the club was sending to the station for missing qsl's?
of all people, i figured you would have been in the first mailing.

I got an email off to St. Helena this morning about the reception report and whether or not it
was received and if a QSL (verie, for those in Glendale) had been sent.

After an email exchange, Laura Lawrence, current Station Mgr. (who leaves the post on Friday) has
told m that she'll be sending me the QSL (verie, for those in Glendale)

She did indicate that for some reason, a lot of reports from the USA seem to have gotten lost in
the post.

Radio St. Helena 40th Anniversary QSL (verie, for those in Glendale) received today.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

Drake R7, R8, R8A and R8B
70' and 200' wires
I swear by, not at, Drake receivers.

And, as always, don't do business with The Huntington Investment Company.

Radio St. Helena Day 08.
 

On Sep 27, 10:05*pm, dxAce wrote:
Radio St. Helena 40th Anniversary QSL (verie, for those in Glendale) received today.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

Ace = well done, though you must have a closet full of those.
Is this a result of the first one not coming and you requesting a
second one?
The St. Helena mail gets transhipped in Cape Town and they are
notorious for losing mail

JP

Radio St. Helena Day 08.
 

wrote:

On Sep 27, 10:05 pm, dxAce wrote:
Radio St. Helena 40th Anniversary QSL (verie, for those in Glendale) received today.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

Ace = well done, though you must have a closet full of those.
Is this a result of the first one not coming and you requesting a
second one?

Yes, noticed others receiving one over the past few months so I asked if my report had
been received and it was not.

Heck, it'll be St. Helena Day again soon, and we can start the whole process over again!

The St. Helena mail gets transhipped in Cape Town and they are
notorious for losing mail

According to the station mgr. many reports from USA seemed to have been lost.



JP