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Palin speaking at her Pentacostal Church June 2008
Video taken in June, 2008 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/0...urch-may-have- sh_n_123205.html Speaking before the Pentecostal church, Palin painted the current war in Iraq as a messianic affair in which the United States could act out the will of the Lord. "Pray for our military men and women who are striving to do what is right. Also, for this country, that our leaders, our national leaders, are sending [U.S. soldiers] out on a task that is from God," she exhorted the congregants. "That's what we have to make sure that we're praying for, that there is a plan and that that plan is God's plan." " Gods Will Has To Be Done" This would be one heartbeat away from The Presidency McCain Wanted a Date! |
ObaMao's Marxist Racist anti-White Israel-hating "Black" Religion
Who is ObaMao's "racist" role model?
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/i...asp?indid=2307 and ObaMao's "spiritual" leader for how many decades? http://therealbarackobama.wordpress....house-legally/ “Obama is Comfortable With People Who Hate This Country” http://uppitywoman08.wordpress.com/2...-this-country/ ObaMao is the Democratic Party candidate for the US presidency largely because of the support of two Marxist organisations-Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) [See Obama-file 7 Barack Obama and the Democratic Socialists of America] http://newzeal.blogspot.com/2008/01/...obama-and.html and the Communist Party USA (CPUSA) [See Why Do The Communists Back Barack?, June 17, 2007] http://newzeal.blogspot.com/2007/06/...ck-barack.html Together these two groups have strong ties to the Congressional Progressive Caucus (CPC) [See Mark My Words Readers, This is the Most Socialist US Government in Decades, November 11, 2006] http://newzeal.blogspot.com/2006/11/...s-is-most.html The Committees for Correspondence for Democracy and Socialism (CCDS) is, after Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) and Communist Party USA (CPUSA), the third largest most influential marxist group in the USA. Formed in 1992 from a large split in the CPUSA, CCDS is influential in Chicago, New York, California and some other centres in the union movement and in black communities. http://therealbarackobama.wordpress....out-for-obama/ BTW, who is Founder, editor and namesake of The Huffington Post, Arianna Huffington? Left syndicated columnist and media personality 2003 California gubernatorial candidate Divorced wife of California Congressman and oil millionaire Michael Huffington Member and ordained minister of John-Roger “cult” the Movement of Spiritual Inner Awareness Former disciple of group-sex and germ-warfare guru Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh Arianna Huffington is a “progressive independent” syndicated columnist, author, media personality, and co-host of the nationally distributed public radio program Left, Right & Center, for which she originally represented the “right.” In May 2005 she became founder, editor and namesake of the Huffington Post, a webzine and Internet “blog” featuring mostly left-liberal participants whose writings there are also distributed to newspapers by the Chicago Tribune’s Tribune Media Services. Huffington was born Arianna Stassinopoulos on May 15, 1950 in Athens, Greece. Her mother Elli was active in the Communist-led Greek resistance movement during World War II. Her journalist father Constantine edited the resistance newspaper Paron, survived internment in a Nazi concentration camp, and after the war became a publisher. When Arianna was 16 her parents divorced, and she and her younger sister moved with their mother to England. In England Arianna attended Cambridge University, where she studied Keynesian economics at Girton College and one of her tutors was the Maoist economist Joan Robinson. At Cambridge she became the first foreign-born female president of the famed debating society the Cambridge Union and an outspoken Tory. She graduated in 1972 with a master’s degree in economics. After dating John Selwyn, a young Conservative Member of Parliament, Arianna met and settled into a close eight-year relationship with Times of London columnist Bernard Levin, 22 years her senior, who she did not marry but described, after his 2004 death, as “the big love of my life.” While with him she published her first book in 1973, The Female Woman, a response to Germaine Greer’s best-seller The Female Eunuch that accused orthodox feminists of denigrating a woman’s freedom to choose marriage and motherhood. In search of spirituality, Arianna read the collected works of psychoanalyst Carl G. Jung. She introduced Levin to an organization called Insight whose rituals encouraged followers to act out their fantasies. The future Arianna Huffington also became a disciple of the Indian guru Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh, whose cult practiced open sexual intercourse among its members, and with its leader, as a central sacrament of their faith. This cult later moved to America’s West Coast and attempted to take over an Oregon town. Bhagwan devotees were directed to purchase what eventually became 139 white Rolls Royces for their leader. As Judith Miller and two other New York Times investigative reporters recounted in their 2001 book Germs: Biological Weapons and America’s Secret War, the Rajneesh cult spread potentially lethal Salmonella bacteria in this town. Rajneesh cult members did this as a way of infecting and incapacitating town residents on election day so that cult voters could win control of the local government. The Bhagwan died in 1990. “It was like knowing there was another dimension to life and that I wanted to experience it, knowing that nothing else mattered as much,” Huffington later told Stephanie Mansfield of the Washington Post about this time of her life. “It took me over completely.” Out of this spiritual experience, Arianna in 1979 published her second book, After Reason (published in England with the title The Other Revolution). In it she criticized both the right and left for doing too little for society’s poor. In 1980 Arianna moved to New York City and soon began to tour the United States to promote her new book about a Greek operatic diva, Maria Callas: The Woman Behind the Legend. In 1988 she wrote a biography of Pablo Picasso, Picasso: Creator and Destroyer, which was the subject of a lawsuit from one of Picasso’s mistresses who Arianna had interviewed. While visiting California she met the man who remains her spiritual guide to this day, John-Roger (Hinkins), founder of a New Age church apparently spun off from the ECKANKAR cult teachings of Paul Twitchell. John-Roger’s Movement of Spiritual Inner Awareness (MSIA) is a faith based on “the Mystical Traveler, a spiritual consciousness that exists throughout all levels of God’s creation.” One disciple of John-Roger’s was the New York Times best-selling author Peter McWilliams. As a de-programmed ex-member, McWilliams wrote the expose Life 102: What to Do When Your Guru Sues You (1994). In this book McWilliams alleged that the charismatic John-Roger had told McWilliams the he (McWilliams) could be cured of AIDS if he wrote books giving John-Roger co-authorship and at least half of the books’ profits, which the “brainwashed” McWilliams agreed to do. To this day, John-Roger insists that he was the chief writer of such co-authored best-sellers as Life 101, and implied that McWilliams was more his scribe than a co-equal author. In Life 102 McWilliams described how Arianna Huffington, too, had been duped by John-Roger and had become a major contributor to, and an ordained minister of, MSIA. McWilliams released to the press a video of Huffington in a white robe being baptized by John-Roger. “I’ve gotten a lot of value from John-Roger’s work,” said Arianna Huffington. “He’s a good friend.” In the United States, Arianna dated a variety of men. Among them were real estate tycoon and U.S. News & World Report Editor-in-Chief Mort Zuckerman and former California Governor Jerry Brown. Dole Pineapple CEO David Murdoch and his wife then introduced her to Texas oil millionaire Michael Huffington, who she married in April 1986 in a wedding ceremony financed as a gift by Ann Getty. But Arianna's friendship with Getty ended when the latter found that Huffington had frivolously spent $30,000 on her wedding dress and $100,000 in all. Heir to approximately $80 millon from the sale of his family’s oil company, Michael Huffington spent $5.4 million in 1992 to win a seat in Congress from Santa Barbara, California. In 1994 he ran for U.S. Senate against longtime veteran Democratic politician and incumbent Dianne Feinstein and narrowly lost. One issue contributing to his defeat was public concern over Arianna Huffington’s links to the John- Roger cult. “He has more influence on her than anyone else in the world,” Michael Huffington years later told the New York Times of Arianna’s relationship with John-Roger. In 1995 the new Republican Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich helped make Arianna Huffington a senior fellow at his conservative think tank the Progress and Freedom Foundation, creating its “Center for Effective Compassion” (her name and idea) to advocate volunteerism as an alternative to the welfare state. She hosted the talk show Critical Mass on Republican Party-attuned National Empowerment Television. Her column in the conservative Washington Times newspaper was soon syndicated nationwide. Huffington’s relationship with Gingrich soured abruptly for reasons unexplained. (In her 2000 book How To Overthrow the Government, Huffington claims that Gingrich did not care about the poor.) Returning to California after her husband Michael was forced to give up his congressional seat when he ran for the Senate, Arianna quickly organized a quite different social scene around herself -- consisting of media leftists like Harry Shearer, Bill Maher, Al Franken, and Los Angeles Times columnist Robert Scheer. Soon she became a frequent guest on television, embraced by Maher and Franken who understood the 180-degree turn she was about to make better than most. In 1996 the cable channel Comedy Central made Franken and Huffington a team covering that year’s political conventions, and she was nominated for an Emmy for her role in this coverage. She was able to keep her credibility as a conservative, however, by hammering President Clinton with some wit during the Monica Lewinsky affair and impeachment process. Huffington continued to write books. Her coffee table volume The Gods of Greece (1983) described the deities of Greek mythology as representing “powerful psychological realities.” Under her married name she wrote about her continuing spiritual exploration in Fourth Instinct: The Call of the Soul (1994). And, while ostensibly still a conservative, she wrote about President Bill Clinton’s sex scandal in a novel, Greetings from the Lincoln Bedroom (1998). In 1997 the Huffingtons divorced, with Arianna receiving an undisclosed but large financial settlement in the seven-figure range. This event became a watershed in her orientation and choice of political bedfellows. “She’s a chameleon,” Michael Huffington told the New York Times to describe his former wife. Since their divorce, Arianna Huffington’s political positions have shifted dramatically towards the left. She now describes herself as a “progessive independent” who is “coming from the fourth dimension of political time and space.” In 2000 Arianna Huffington was deeply involved in staging the “Shadow Conventions” designed as media propaganda shows to undermine Republicans and nudge Democrats farther to the political left. These mock “conventions” were organized by the “Shadow Party” organizations funded by George Soros and other wealthy leftists. Huffington’s books in recent years reflect her new left-leaning slant. They include How to Overthrow the Government (2000); Pigs at the Trough: How Corporate Greed and Political Corruption Are Undermining America (2003); and Fanatics and Fools: The Game Plan for Winning Back America (2004). In 2003 Arianna Huffington ran as an “independent” candidate in the California election that recalled incumbent Democratic Governor Gray Davis. She directed almost all her fire on consensus Republican candidate Arnold Schwarzenegger, who ultimately won. One of Huffington’s chief campaign advisors during this race was her close personal friend Jodie Evans, co-founder of Code Pink. Huffingtom received only one percent of the primary votes cast. One issue that cut against her was that despite living in a $7 million mansion, holding and making huge amounts of money, and demanding higher taxes on corporations, she herself had paid only $771 in federal taxes over the previous two years. On May 9, 2005, Huffington launched HuffingtonPost.com, a website openly intended to do for the political left what Matt Drudge’s DrudgeReport.com has done to coalesce the right. As the New York Times reported, Huffington hired for her new website, Drudge’s “right-hand web whiz, Andrew Breitbart.” In a May 2008 interview with John Stossel, Huffington boasted that she drove a Prius hybrid vehicle in an effort to help reduce global warming. When Stossel pointed out that Huffington “also has a $7- million house that burns more carbon than a hundred people in the Third World,” Huffington replied: “There is no question that the fact that I'm living in a big house, I occasionally travel on private planes -- all those things are contradictions. I'm not setting myself up as some paragon who only goes around on a bicycle.” In the same interview, Huffington stated that welfare reform (which was enacted in 1996) was "not a success" because it had left "a lot of people ... without job training and therefore without the ability to really lead productive lives." Stossel then pointed out that since welfare reform, eight million people had left the welfare rolls, and that many of them had gone on to find gainful employment. Huffington’s retort: “…But you know we have over 30 million Americans living below the poverty line.” When Stossel informed her that the percentage of families living below the poverty line had fallen considerably since 1996, Huffington said: “The fact that we used to live in caves is not a justification for the state of affairs right now.” Republican strategist Ed Rollins (who managed Michael Huffington's 1994 campaign for the California Senate) once called Arianna Huffington "a domineering Greek Rasputin" who was "the most ruthless, unscrupulous, and ambitious person I'd met in thirty years in national politics." http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/i...asp?indid=2307 God help America! |
(OT) : "God & County First" Sarah Palin speaking at her PentacostalChurch June 2008
RHF wrote:
On Sep 3, 7:02 am, wrote: Video taken in June, 2008 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/0...urch-may-have- sh_n_123205.html Speaking before the Pentecostal church, Palin painted the current war in Iraq as a messianic affair in which the United States could act out the will of the Lord. "Pray for our military men and women who are striving to do what is right. Also, for this country, that our leaders, our national leaders, are sending [U.S. soldiers] out on a task that is from God," she exhorted the congregants. "That's what we have to make sure that we're praying for, that there is a plan and that that plan is God's plan." - " Gods Will Has To Be Done" - - This would be one heartbeat away from The Presidency - - McCain Wanted a Date! All Related to . . . Freedom of Speech http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_Speech Palin has little concept of freedom of speech. Anyone who tries to get books banned and threatens to fire someone who won't comply with that goal is an enemy of the state. JB and the 'other' little freedom . . . Freedom of Religion http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_Religion can i get an amen to that . . . ~ RHF . |
(OT) : "God & County First" Sarah Palin speaking at herPentacostal Church June 2008
On Sep 3, 7:07*pm, John Barnard wrote:
Palin has little concept of freedom of speech. Anyone who tries to get books banned and threatens to fire someone who won't comply with that goal is an enemy of the state. JB A model example of Marxist propaganda lies. We thank you for that contribution, JB. |
(OT) : Barack Hussein Obama Supporting Your Rights To . . .
On Sep 3, 5:07*pm, John Barnard wrote:
RHF wrote: On Sep 3, 7:02 am, wrote: Video taken in June, 2008 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/0...urch-may-have- sh_n_123205.html Speaking before the Pentecostal church, Palin painted the current war in Iraq as a messianic affair in which the United States could act out the will of the Lord. "Pray for our military men and women who are striving to do what is right. Also, for this country, that our leaders, our national leaders, are sending [U.S. soldiers] out on a task that is from God," she exhorted the congregants. "That's what we have to make sure that we're praying for, that there is a plan and that that plan is God's plan." - " Gods Will Has To Be Done" - - This would be one heartbeat away from The Presidency - - McCain Wanted a Date! All Related to . . . Freedom of Speech http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_Speech Palin has little concept of freedom of speech. Anyone who tries to get books banned and threatens to fire someone who won't comply with that goal is an enemy of the state. JB and the 'other' little freedom . . . Freedom of Religion http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_Religion can i get an amen to that . . . ~ RHF *.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Sarah Palin does have a clear idea of The Right To Bear Arms http://images.huffingtonpost.com/200...alinbikini.jpg -source- http://www.huffingtonpost.com/charlo..._b_123234.html |
(OT) : "God & County First" Sarah Palin speaking at her PentacostalChurch June 2008
RHF wrote:
All Related to . . . Freedom of Speech Freedom without responsibility is chaos. |
(OT) : "God & County First" Sarah Palin speaking at her PentacostalChurch June 2008
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(OT) : "God & County First" Sarah Palin speaking at her PentacostalChurch June 2008
Dave wrote:
wrote: On Sep 3, 7:07 pm, John Barnard wrote: Palin has little concept of freedom of speech. Anyone who tries to get books banned and threatens to fire someone who won't comply with that goal is an enemy of the state. JB A model example of Marxist propaganda lies. We thank you for that contribution, JB. According to the Frontiersman newspaper, Wasilla’s library director, Mary Ellen Emmons, said that Palin asked her outright if she "could live with censorship of library books.” Palin later dismissed the conversation as a “rhetorical” exercise. here is a little note from one of Saras friends; and, yes, she is a real repug. Drifter... http://www.andrys.com/palin-kilkenny.html CLAIM VS FACT •“Hockey mom”: true for a few years •“PTA mom”: true years ago when her first-born was in elementary school, not since •“NRA supporter”: absolutely true •social conservative: mixed. Opposes gay marriage, BUT vetoed a bill that would have denied benefits to employees in same-sex relationships (said she did this because it was unconsitutional). •pro-creationism: mixed. Supports it, BUT did nothing as Governor to promote it. •“Pro-life”: mixed. Knowingly gave birth to a Down’s syndrome baby BUT declined to call a special legislative session on some pro-life legislation •“Experienced”: Some high schools have more students than Wasilla has residents. Many cities have more residents than the state of Alaska. No legislative experience other than City Council. Little hands-on supervisory or managerial experience; needed help of a city administrator to run town of about 5,000. •political maverick: not at all •gutsy: absolutely! •open & transparent: ??? Good at keeping secrets. Not good at explaining actions. •has a developed philosophy of public policy: no •”a Greenie”: no. Turned Wasilla into a wasteland of big box stores and disconnected parking lots. Is pro-drilling off-shore and in ANWR. •fiscal conservative: not by my definition! •pro-infrastructu No. Promoted a sports complex and park in a city without a sewage treatment plant or storm drainage system. Built streets to early 20th century standards. •pro-tax relief: Lowered taxes for businesses, increased tax burden on residents •pro-small government: No. Oversaw greatest expansion of city government in Wasilla’s history. •pro-labor/pro-union. No. Just because her husband works union doesn’t make her pro-labor. I have seen nothing to support any claim that she is pro-labor/pro-union. |
(OT) : "God & County First" Sarah Palin speaking at her PentacostalChurch June 2008
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(OT) : "God & County First" Sarah Palin speaking at her PentacostalChurch June 2008
John Barnard wrote:
RHF wrote: On Sep 3, 7:02 am, wrote: Video taken in June, 2008 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/0...urch-may-have- sh_n_123205.html Speaking before the Pentecostal church, Palin painted the current war in Iraq as a messianic affair in which the United States could act out the will of the Lord. "Pray for our military men and women who are striving to do what is right. Also, for this country, that our leaders, our national leaders, are sending [U.S. soldiers] out on a task that is from God," she exhorted the congregants. "That's what we have to make sure that we're praying for, that there is a plan and that that plan is God's plan." - " Gods Will Has To Be Done" - - This would be one heartbeat away from The Presidency - - McCain Wanted a Date! All Related to . . . Freedom of Speech http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_Speech Palin has little concept of freedom of speech. Anyone who tries to get books banned and threatens to fire someone who won't comply with that goal is an enemy of the state. JB JB, this women is a terrible choice for VP. transparent, light weight. i'm being told the old party hard liners are ready to string up john-boy. he wanted joe liebermen, JL could not be trusted. so, the powers that be on the right side of the aisle are up in the air now as what can be done. some are saying it's over. this women has a lot of baggage. and me, i just may vote for mickey mouse this time around. not easy being independent. Drifter... |
(OT) : "God & CountyFirst" Sarah Palin speaking at her Pentac...
Years and years and years ago, when I got off of work,,, I used to stop
off at a Shoney's restaurant.On Sunday nights, those Pentacostal people would be flooding on in there.They are a lot of fun to talk to. cuhulin |
(OT) : "God & County First" Sarah Palin speaking at her PentacostalChurch June 2008
Drifter wrote:
i just may vote for mickey mouse this time around. not easy being independent. Wise choice, but there's still the age issue. I've heard rumours that Mickey is almost as old as McCain. http://www.thelocal.se/7544/ Then there were those rumours of the Mouse and Marilyn Monroe being a pair back in the Sixties... mike -- __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ / /\ / /\ / /\ / /\ / /\ / /\ / /\ / / / /\ \ /'Think Tanks Cleaned Cheap'/ /\ \/ / /_/ \/_/ \/_/ \/_/ \/_/ \/_/ \/_/ \/_/ Densa International© For the OTHER two percent. Due to the insane amount of spam and garbage, I block all postings with a Gmail, Google Mail, Google Groups or HOTMAIL address. I also filter everything from a .cn server. For solutions which may work for you, please check: http://improve-usenet.org/ |
(OT) : "God & CountyFirst" Sarah Palin speaking at her Pentac...
One time, many years ago, in that now defunct Shoney's restaurant, I
sat down at a table.Somebody had left one page of the Clarion Ledger funny papers on that table. www.clarionledger.com I started reading the funny papers/comic strips.A Pentacostal guy sitting catty corner at a table from me, he said,,,, He is on the right track, but the wrong page. I Love Sarah Palin. cuhulin .......................... Sarah Palin Rocks! .......................... |
(OT) : Barack Hussein Obama II a want-to-be World President
On Sep 3, 9:44*pm, John Barnard wrote:
RHF wrote: On Sep 3, 5:07 pm, John Barnard wrote: RHF wrote: On Sep 3, 7:02 am, wrote: Video taken in June, 2008 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/0...urch-may-have- sh_n_123205.html Speaking before the Pentecostal church, Palin painted the current war in Iraq as a messianic affair in which the United States could act out the will of the Lord. "Pray for our military men and women who are striving to do what is right. Also, for this country, that our leaders, our national leaders, are sending [U.S. soldiers] out on a task that is from God," she exhorted the congregants. "That's what we have to make sure that we're praying for, that there is a plan and that that plan is God's plan." - " Gods Will Has To Be Done" - - This would be one heartbeat away from The Presidency - - McCain Wanted a Date! All Related to . . . Freedom of Speech http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_Speech Palin has little concept of freedom of speech. Anyone who tries to get books banned and threatens to fire someone who won't comply with that goal is an enemy of the state. JB and the 'other' little freedom . . . Freedom of Religion http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_Religion can i get an amen to that . . . ~ RHF *.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Sarah Palin does have a clear idea of The Right To Bear Arms http://images.huffingtonpost.com/200...alinbikini.jpg -source- http://www.huffingtonpost.com/charlo.../sarah-palin-b... *. While Barack "Smoking" Obama supports your Right To Inhale http://thegonzothinktank.files.wordp...ma-smoking.jpg http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m...a-smoking1.jpg *. Plus Barack "Snort" Obama supports your Right To Choose http://www.politicalwhore.com/images/obamacoke.jpg {the Drug of Your Choice} http://www.israpundit.com/2008/wp-co...05/obama_smoke... *. Sarah Palin believes in the right to: 1. Abuse her powers to act as a censor. So much for free speech .... - 2. Put the country second. Alaska First - Alaska Always. Any 'Elected' Governor who does not put their State First is a Fool. The concept is Elected "Representative" Government. As the Elected VP she will Put America First. Barack Hussein Obama II is in his own words a Global Citizen -ie- Citizen of the World : So why should any American Citizen vote for a want-to-be World President. 3. Being for the bridge before she was against it. Squeal little piggy! 4. Make life more difficult for single teen mothers. What's a little hypocrisy among friends. 5. Be a member of a church which puts Rev. Jeremiah Wright to shame with its vitriol. - 6. Be part of a political party that likes its token representatives. "Token" Did You Say {Write} TOKEN ? Sexist -ie- Racist Meaning well understood Well then Barack Hussein Obama II clearly is the Democrats Good Luck Charm in 2008. 7. Run her car wash business into the ground. Too funny! She mismanaged a car wash! Think of what would happen is she were the C-I-C! 8. Over-inflate her credentials. A flight stopover in a country IS NOT the same as visiting/traveling within a country. So much for being a Washington outsider.... JB |
(OT) : "God & County First" Sarah Palin speaking at her Pentac...
On Sep 4, 9:17*am, wrote:
Years and years and years ago, when I got off of work,,, - I used to stop off at a Shoney's restaurant. http://www.shoneys.com/ On Sunday nights, those Pentacostal people would be flooding on in there.They are a lot of fun to talk to. cuhulin |
(OT) : "God & County First" Sarah Palin speaking at herPentacostal Church June 2008
On Sep 4, 5:19*am, Dave wrote:
- - RHF wrote: - - All Related to . . . Freedom of Speech - Freedom without responsibility is chaos. Dave - Yes many of your Posts prove that . . . ~ RHF |
(OT) : "God & County First" Sarah Palin speaking at herPentacostal Church June 2008
On Thu, 04 Sep 2008 10:51:06 -0700, RHF wrote:
On Sep 4, 5:19Â*am, Dave wrote: - - RHF wrote: - - All Related to . . . Freedom of Speech - Freedom without responsibility is chaos. Dave - Yes many of your Posts prove that . . . ~ RHF The Constitution is more important than God. |
(OT) : D'Oh DaviD - Inalienable Rights are Inalienable Rights !
On Sep 4, 11:33*am, Dave wrote:
On Thu, 04 Sep 2008 10:51:06 -0700, RHF wrote: On Sep 4, 5:19*am, Dave wrote: - - RHF wrote: - - All Related to . . . Freedom of Speech - Freedom without responsibility is chaos. Dave - Yes many of your Posts prove that . . . ~ RHF The Constitution is more important than God. Inalienable Rights are Inalienable Rights http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inalienable_rights [ Unalienable Rights are Unalienable Rights ] 'Endowed by Their Creator with Certain Unalienable Rights' In the US Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution they are just Words http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_...f_Independence http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_Constitution As American Citizens We Have The Duty and Responsibility To Exercise These Rights and Live Them Every Day. live 'free' and right-on - amen ~ RHF |
(OT) : D'Oh DaviD - Inalienable Rights are Inalienable Rights !
On Thu, 04 Sep 2008 14:11:35 -0700, RHF wrote:
In the US Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution they are just Words http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_...f_Independence http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_Constitution As American Citizens We Have The Duty and Responsibility To Exercise These Rights and Live Them Every Day. live 'free' and right-on - amen ~ RHF All people have inherent rights. That's all the Declaration means. You don't have to "exercise" rights; especially inherent ones. You do have to scream bloody murder when politicians try to erode them. The Declaration has no force of law; it is a statement of reasons for treasons. The framers made very certain that there was no mention of any mythical beings in the Constitution, being part of the Enlightenment and all. |
(OT) : D'Oh DaviD - Inalienable Rights are Inalienable Rights!
Dave wrote:
On Thu, 04 Sep 2008 14:11:35 -0700, RHF wrote: In the US Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution they are just Words http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_...f_Independence http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_Constitution As American Citizens We Have The Duty and Responsibility To Exercise These Rights and Live Them Every Day. live 'free' and right-on - amen ~ RHF All people have inherent rights. That's all the Declaration means. You don't have to "exercise" rights; especially inherent ones. You do have to scream bloody murder when politicians try to erode them. That's why you need to exercise them: To remind politicians that they're screwing with something that they're not allowed to screw with. One of the reasons so much erosion to the 2nd Amendment has taken place is that so few actually have cared enough to exercise their lawful rights that the politicians simply deemed them as expendable. With no exercise, there is no outcry. Which leads directly to abuse. |
(OT) : D'Oh DaviD - Inalienable Rights are Inalienable Rights !
On Thu, 04 Sep 2008 21:48:53 +0000, D Peter Maus wrote:
.. One of the reasons so much erosion to the 2nd Amendment has taken place is that so few actually have cared enough to exercise their lawful rights that the politicians simply deemed them as expendable. With no exercise, there is no outcry. Which leads directly to abuse. I'm way more concerned about the 4th Amendment. The 2nd is pretty safe for now. How does one exercise privacy? |
(OT) : D'Oh DaviD - Inalienable Rights are Inalienable Rights !
On Sep 4, 2:48*pm, D Peter Maus wrote:
Dave wrote: On Thu, 04 Sep 2008 14:11:35 -0700, RHF wrote: In the US Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution they are just Words http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_...f_Independence http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_Constitution As American Citizens We Have The Duty and Responsibility To Exercise These Rights and Live Them Every Day. live 'free' and right-on - amen ~ RHF All people have inherent rights. *That's all the Declaration means. *You don't have to "exercise" rights; *especially inherent ones. *You do have to scream bloody murder when politicians try to erode them. * *That's why you need to exercise them: To remind politicians that they're screwing with something that they're not allowed to screw with. * * One of the reasons so much erosion to the 2nd Amendment has taken place is that so few actually have cared enough to exercise their lawful rights that the politicians simply deemed them as expendable. With no exercise, there is no outcry. Which leads directly to abuse.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - The Free Exercise of . . . http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Ex...irst_Amendment Speech & Thought Assembly & Association Petition Government The Press : Today that would be Self-Publishing {BLOGs] Arms & Self-Defense Religion & Personal Beliefs etc etc etc Convert all the Mark-Off Boxes on the Ballot to a BullsEye http://www.funwarehouse.co.uk/acatal...ield-Small.jpg -and- Send a Message to all those who seek Elected Office. politicos - our eye's are on you ~ RHF |
(OT) : D'Oh DaviD - Inalienable Rights are Inalienable Rights !
On Thu, 04 Sep 2008 22:56:24 +0000, D Peter Maus wrote:
How to you exercise privacy? Start by paying attention to it. BTW, for more information about the gathering of information through credit, and preferred club cards, go to www.nocards.org Wow. We're in total agreement. I take it one step further and use the system to spread disinformation. I create several personnas, misspell things on purpose to see who is selling my info, etc. I had to dump Time_warner ISP because their system is completely insecure. You'll be amazed. |
(OT) : "God & County First" Sarah Palin speaking at her Pentacostal Church June 2008
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Dave wrote: On Thu, 04 Sep 2008 10:51:06 -0700, RHF wrote: On Sep 4, 5:19Â*am, Dave wrote: - - RHF wrote: - - All Related to . . . Freedom of Speech - Freedom without responsibility is chaos. Dave - Yes many of your Posts prove that . . . ~ RHF The Constitution is more important than God. God inspired the writers of the constitution. Our rights come from God not the government. The constitution only recognizes the fact that our rights come from God. So David no God no rights. You got that? If there is no God and then you have a piece of paper with words on it that can be changed by the whim of man at any time. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
(OT) : D'Oh DaviD - Inalienable Rights are Inalienable Rights !
In article ,
Dave wrote: On Thu, 04 Sep 2008 14:11:35 -0700, RHF wrote: In the US Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution they are just Words http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_...f_Independence http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_Constitution As American Citizens We Have The Duty and Responsibility To Exercise These Rights and Live Them Every Day. live 'free' and right-on - amen ~ RHF All people have inherent rights. That's all the Declaration means. You don't have to "exercise" rights; especially inherent ones. You do have to scream bloody murder when politicians try to erode them. The Declaration has no force of law; it is a statement of reasons for treasons. The framers made very certain that there was no mention of any mythical beings in the Constitution, being part of the Enlightenment and all. You are right. God is not mythical. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
(OT) : "God & County First" Sarah Palin speaking at her PentacostalChurch June 2008
RHF wrote:
On Sep 4, 9:04 am, Drifter wrote: wrote: On Sep 3, 7:07 pm, John Barnard wrote: Palin has little concept of freedom of speech. Anyone who tries to get books banned and threatens to fire someone who won't comply with that goal is an enemy of the state. JB A model example of Marxist propaganda lies. We thank you for that contribution, JB. and i should read and believe you? and not put you in the bit-bucket why? you show up here as a shill, with a silly gmail address, and spout nonsense. you have no history on this list. so, your just a shill-sock-puppet. into the bit-bucket. Drifter... Drifter... 'the bit-bucket' say ain't that Censorship ? ~ RHF . No it ain't! Drifter is not inflicting the bit-bucket on someone else. Palin, on the other hand, is just aching to inflict a little censorship. JB |
(OT) : Barack Hussein Obama II a want-to-be World President
RHF wrote:
On Sep 3, 9:44 pm, John Barnard wrote: RHF wrote: On Sep 3, 5:07 pm, John Barnard wrote: RHF wrote: On Sep 3, 7:02 am, wrote: Video taken in June, 2008 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/0...urch-may-have- sh_n_123205.html Speaking before the Pentecostal church, Palin painted the current war in Iraq as a messianic affair in which the United States could act out the will of the Lord. "Pray for our military men and women who are striving to do what is right. Also, for this country, that our leaders, our national leaders, are sending [U.S. soldiers] out on a task that is from God," she exhorted the congregants. "That's what we have to make sure that we're praying for, that there is a plan and that that plan is God's plan." - " Gods Will Has To Be Done" - - This would be one heartbeat away from The Presidency - - McCain Wanted a Date! All Related to . . . Freedom of Speech http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_Speech Palin has little concept of freedom of speech. Anyone who tries to get books banned and threatens to fire someone who won't comply with that goal is an enemy of the state. JB and the 'other' little freedom . . . Freedom of Religion http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_Religion can i get an amen to that . . . ~ RHF .- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Sarah Palin does have a clear idea of The Right To Bear Arms http://images.huffingtonpost.com/200...alinbikini.jpg -source- http://www.huffingtonpost.com/charlo.../sarah-palin-b... . While Barack "Smoking" Obama supports your Right To Inhale http://thegonzothinktank.files.wordp...ma-smoking.jpg http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m...a-smoking1.jpg . Plus Barack "Snort" Obama supports your Right To Choose http://www.politicalwhore.com/images/obamacoke.jpg {the Drug of Your Choice} http://www.israpundit.com/2008/wp-co...05/obama_smoke... . Sarah Palin believes in the right to: 1. Abuse her powers to act as a censor. So much for free speech .... - 2. Put the country second. Alaska First - Alaska Always. Any 'Elected' Governor who does not put their State First is a Fool. The concept is Elected "Representative" Government. As the Elected VP she will Put America First. Once again, you miss the point. She was part of an Alaska secessionist movement. Try to keep up, if you can. Barack Hussein Obama II is in his own words a Global Citizen -ie- Citizen of the World : So why should any American Citizen vote for a want-to-be World President. 3. Being for the bridge before she was against it. Squeal little piggy! 4. Make life more difficult for single teen mothers. What's a little hypocrisy among friends. 5. Be a member of a church which puts Rev. Jeremiah Wright to shame with its vitriol. - 6. Be part of a political party that likes its token representatives. "Token" Did You Say {Write} TOKEN ? Sexist -ie- Racist Meaning well understood Well then Barack Hussein Obama II clearly is the Democrats Good Luck Charm in 2008. Crappy attempt at distortion. She's a sorry attempt at try to get some Clinton supporters to vote Repub. Otherwise, she doesn't have any credentials to justify being a running mate. JB 7. Run her car wash business into the ground. Too funny! She mismanaged a car wash! Think of what would happen is she were the C-I-C! 8. Over-inflate her credentials. A flight stopover in a country IS NOT the same as visiting/traveling within a country. So much for being a Washington outsider.... JB |
(OT) : "God & County First" Sarah Palin speaking at her PentacostalChurch June 2008
Drifter wrote:
John Barnard wrote: RHF wrote: On Sep 3, 7:02 am, wrote: Video taken in June, 2008 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/0...urch-may-have- sh_n_123205.html Speaking before the Pentecostal church, Palin painted the current war in Iraq as a messianic affair in which the United States could act out the will of the Lord. "Pray for our military men and women who are striving to do what is right. Also, for this country, that our leaders, our national leaders, are sending [U.S. soldiers] out on a task that is from God," she exhorted the congregants. "That's what we have to make sure that we're praying for, that there is a plan and that that plan is God's plan." - " Gods Will Has To Be Done" - - This would be one heartbeat away from The Presidency - - McCain Wanted a Date! All Related to . . . Freedom of Speech http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_Speech Palin has little concept of freedom of speech. Anyone who tries to get books banned and threatens to fire someone who won't comply with that goal is an enemy of the state. JB JB, this women is a terrible choice for VP. transparent, light weight. i'm being told the old party hard liners are ready to string up john-boy. he wanted joe liebermen, JL could not be trusted. so, the powers that be on the right side of the aisle are up in the air now as what can be done. some are saying it's over. this women has a lot of baggage. and me, i just may vote for mickey mouse this time around. not easy being independent. Drifter... I may have to join you with regards to voting for Mickey Mouse. We're destined for an election and the pickings are slim! JB |
(OT) : The "EARS" Electability Index Tells Us the Winners is . . .
On Sep 4, 6:50*pm, John Barnard wrote:
Drifter wrote: John Barnard wrote: RHF wrote: On Sep 3, 7:02 am, wrote: Video taken in June, 2008 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/0...urch-may-have- sh_n_123205.html Speaking before the Pentecostal church, Palin painted the current war in Iraq as a messianic affair in which the United States could act out the will of the Lord. "Pray for our military men and women who are striving to do what is right. Also, for this country, that our leaders, our national leaders, are sending [U.S. soldiers] out on a task that is from God," she exhorted the congregants. "That's what we have to make sure that we're praying for, that there is a plan and that that plan is God's plan." - " Gods Will Has To Be Done" - - This would be one heartbeat away from The Presidency - - McCain Wanted a Date! All Related to . . . Freedom of Speech http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_Speech Palin has little concept of freedom of speech. Anyone who tries to get books banned and threatens to fire someone who won't comply with that goal is an enemy of the state. JB JB, this women is a terrible choice for VP. transparent, light weight. i'm being told the old party hard liners are ready to string up john-boy. he wanted joe liebermen, JL could not be trusted. so, the powers that be on the right side of the aisle are up in the air now as what can be done. some are saying it's over. this women has a lot of baggage. - - and me, i just may vote for mickey mouse this time around. - - not easy being independent. - - - - Drifter... - I may have to join you with regards to voting for Mickey Mouse. We're - destined for an election and the pickings are slim! - - JB Hey Basic on the "EARS" Electability Index : Mickey Mouse's 'Ears' are Much Much Bigger than Barack Hussein Obama 2 http://henryjenkins.org/obama%20spock%202.jpg OBTW - BHO's Ears come from his maternal Grandfather Stanley Durham -obtw- that granddaddy was 'white' {omg} http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Stanley_Dunham.jpg Barack Hussein Obama 2 'Ears' are Bigger than John "Smiley" McCain 3 Mickey Wins Ears Up ! - [ The Ears Have It ! ] remember when you vote for mickey just say cheese ~ RHF -ps- in case of hanging chads - just say swiss |
(OT) : D'Oh DaviD - Inalienable Rights are Inalienable Rights!
D Peter Maus wrote:
How to you exercise privacy? Start by paying attention to it. What do you say to people who think all mail should be opened by the government? mike -- Due to the insane amount of spam and garbage, I block all postings with a Gmail, Google Mail, Google Groups or HOTMAIL address. I also filter everything from a .cn server. For solutions which may work for you, please check: http://improve-usenet.org/ |
(OT) : "God & County First" Sarah Palin speaking at her PentacostalChurch June 2008
Telamon wrote:
If there is no God and then you have a piece of paper with words on it that can be changed by the whim of man at any time. Patriot Acts 1 and 2 prove there is no God? mike -- Due to the insane amount of spam and garbage, I block all postings with a Gmail, Google Mail, Google Groups or HOTMAIL address. I also filter everything from a .cn server. For solutions which may work for you, please check: http://improve-usenet.org/ |
(OT) : D'Oh DaviD - Inalienable Rights are Inalienable Rights!
m II wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote: How to you exercise privacy? Start by paying attention to it. What do you say to people who think all mail should be opened by the government? mike There are countries where that is a standard practice. They should go there. |
(OT) : D'Oh DaviD - Inalienable Rights are Inalienable Rights !
"D Peter Maus" wrote in message ... Well, you start by not trading it for convenience. You follow that up by placing sharp restrictions on what information may be gathered and what may be done with it. And you wrap things up by keeping your business YOUR business. So many times, European information gathering practices are cited, especially by businesses wishing to gather information about it's patrons, potential patrons, or people walking by in front of the store. What's NOT cited is the enormous firewall between gathered information and it's dissemination. What we do with gathered information, today is obscene. And though the government may not, itself, gather information about citizens, it MAY, according to recent court decisions, access privately gathered information, virtually at will. So there are business that do nothing but gather, collate and disseminate personal information gathered about US citizens. Usually through credit card transactions, EZ Pass movements, and cell phone activities. All of this information is then accessible, with a friendly judge, to the government. In the case of TelCo's, all that's needed is that someone ask. This is obscene. But we allow it 1) for our own convenience, and 2) because we believe that 'if you have nothing to hide...' Few ever consider the possibility of abuse. Until they someone takes their house. Careful, there, Peter... you'll have someone calling you a liberal crybaby k00k. |
(OT) : "God & County First" Sarah Palin speaking at her Pentacostal Church June 2008
In article iW2wk.500$yS5.215@edtnps83, m II wrote:
Telamon wrote: If there is no God and then you have a piece of paper with words on it that can be changed by the whim of man at any time. Patriot Acts 1 and 2 prove there is no God? You had better go back and reread them. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
(OT) : D'Oh DaviD - Inalienable Rights are Inalienable Rights!
D Peter Maus wrote:
How to you exercise privacy? Start by paying attention to it. What do you say to people who think all mail should be opened by the government? There are countries where that is a standard practice. They should go there. It would appear someone in Michigan will be packing soon. mike -- __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ / /\ / /\ / /\ / /\ / /\ / /\ / /\ / / / /\ \ /'Think Tanks Cleaned Cheap'/ /\ \/ / /_/ \/_/ \/_/ \/_/ \/_/ \/_/ \/_/ \/_/ Densa International© For the OTHER two percent. Due to the insane amount of spam and garbage, I block all postings with a Gmail, Google Mail, Google Groups or HOTMAIL address. I also filter everything from a .cn server. For solutions which may work for you, please check: http://improve-usenet.org/ |
(OT) : D'Oh DaviD - Inalienable Rights are Inalienable Rights!
Brenda Ann wrote:
Careful, there, Peter... you'll have someone calling you a liberal crybaby k00k. Bless you, Brenda. mike -- __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ / /\ / /\ / /\ / /\ / /\ / /\ / /\ / / / /\ \ /'Think Tanks Cleaned Cheap'/ /\ \/ / /_/ \/_/ \/_/ \/_/ \/_/ \/_/ \/_/ \/_/ Densa International© For the OTHER two percent. Due to the insane amount of spam and garbage, I block all postings with a Gmail, Google Mail, Google Groups or HOTMAIL address. I also filter everything from a .cn server. For solutions which may work for you, please check: http://improve-usenet.org/ |
(OT) : D'Oh DaviD - Inalienable Rights are Inalienable Rights !
On Sep 4, 9:50*pm, m II wrote:
- - D Peter Maus wrote: - - How to you exercise privacy? - - Start by paying attention to it. - What do you say to people who think all mail - should be opened by the government? - - mike Sieg Heil http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sieg_Heil |
(OT) : D'Oh DaviD - Inalienable Rights are Inalienable Rights !
On Sep 4, 10:47*pm, "Brenda Ann" wrote:
"D Peter Maus" wrote in ... * Well, you start by not trading it for convenience. You follow that up by placing sharp restrictions on what information may be gathered and what may be done with it. * And you wrap things up by keeping your business YOUR business. * So many times, European information gathering practices are cited, especially by businesses wishing to gather information about it's patrons, potential patrons, or people walking by in front of the store. What's NOT cited is the enormous firewall between gathered information and it's dissemination. What we do with gathered information, today is obscene. And though the government may not, itself, gather information about citizens, it MAY, according to recent court decisions, access privately gathered information, virtually at will. So there are business that do nothing but gather, collate and disseminate personal information gathered about US citizens. Usually through credit card transactions, EZ Pass movements, and cell phone activities. All of this information is then accessible, with a friendly judge, to the government. In the case of TelCo's, all that's needed is that someone ask. * This is obscene. * But we allow it 1) for our own convenience, and 2) because we believe that 'if you have nothing to hide...' Few ever consider the possibility of abuse. Until they someone takes their house. - Careful, there, Peter... - you'll have someone calling you a liberal crybaby k00k. BAD Now there you go . . . You have Outed DPM ~ RHF |
(OT) : D'Oh DaviD - Inalienable Rights are Inalienable Rights !
On Sep 4, 11:44*pm, m II wrote:
Brenda Ann wrote: Careful, there, Peter... you'll have someone calling you a liberal crybaby k00k. - Bless you, Brenda. - - mike Blessed are the Blessers and Blessings Be Unto Them. |
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