On Sep 3, 11:15 am, bpnjensen wrote:
On Sep 2, 10:38 pm, KaitoWRX911 wrote:



"HD Slowly Passes Into The Night"

"Radio Shack has given up on HD Radio. Their stores have two radios in
stock and both are on clearance. One radio that sold for $249 is now
on closeout at $82. The other was $149 and now sells for $99. If that
isn’t ‘get this out of here’ pricing what is? It appears no new models
are coming to replace them. No surprise really."

http://tinyurl.com/5s8zfk

"More HD Fun"

"It was mentioned that retail stores such as Radio Shack are not
placing these radios on the shelf. Also, distributor such as
Crutchfield are liquidating stock, though I see a pretty decent
selection there. How does a radio manufacturer keep up with the
changes that Ibiquity keep making? It hurts. And though it is
published that consumers are more aware of HD radio, are they buying
into it? No."

http://www.eisenhamerengineering.com/wordpress/?p=70

"American DX Report"

"North American shortwave broadcasters have decided to conduct
research into current shortwave listening patterns in North America,
digital HD radio receivers are being removed from radio shop
inventories in the United States, and some American AM mediumwave
stations with IBOC capability are choosing to switch off due to
interference problems and the lack of listeners with IBOC receivers."

http://mt-shortwave.blogspot.com/200...dx-report.html

It's only a matter of time, now.

It's a good thing for AM, but maybe too bad too - for FM, it seems a
good idea.

Bruce Jensen

It's a bad idea for both AM and FM.

On Sep 3, 11:42 am, Rfburns wrote:
On Sep 3, 11:15 am, bpnjensen wrote:



On Sep 2, 10:38 pm, KaitoWRX911 wrote:

"HD Slowly Passes Into The Night"

"Radio Shack has given up on HD Radio. Their stores have two radios in
stock and both are on clearance. One radio that sold for $249 is now
on closeout at $82. The other was $149 and now sells for $99. If that
isn’t ‘get this out of here’ pricing what is? It appears no new models
are coming to replace them. No surprise really."

http://tinyurl.com/5s8zfk

"More HD Fun"

"It was mentioned that retail stores such as Radio Shack are not
placing these radios on the shelf. Also, distributor such as
Crutchfield are liquidating stock, though I see a pretty decent
selection there. How does a radio manufacturer keep up with the
changes that Ibiquity keep making? It hurts. And though it is
published that consumers are more aware of HD radio, are they buying
into it? No."

http://www.eisenhamerengineering.com/wordpress/?p=70

"American DX Report"

"North American shortwave broadcasters have decided to conduct
research into current shortwave listening patterns in North America,
digital HD radio receivers are being removed from radio shop
inventories in the United States, and some American AM mediumwave
stations with IBOC capability are choosing to switch off due to
interference problems and the lack of listeners with IBOC receivers."

http://mt-shortwave.blogspot.com/200...dx-report.html

It's only a matter of time, now.

It's a good thing for AM, but maybe too bad too - for FM, it seems a
good idea.

Bruce Jensen

It's a bad idea for both AM and FM.

Not to mention the fact that consumer interest is zero. Hybrid
digital radio sales can't go much lower in spite of iBiquitys spin.

But, our worthless goverment keeps the funds rolling for a service
that no one wants. Booble Struble has convinced them that hybrid
digital is on the verge of a big consumer breakthrough. So far it's
anything but successful by any measure..

I like to refer to iBiquitys system as "hybrid digital" radio and not
"HD" radio because "high definition" it's not.

Sorry Struble but it ain't HD.

Rfburns wrote:
On Sep 3, 11:42 am, Rfburns wrote:
On Sep 3, 11:15 am, bpnjensen wrote:



On Sep 2, 10:38 pm, KaitoWRX911 wrote:
"HD Slowly Passes Into The Night"
"Radio Shack has given up on HD Radio. Their stores have two radios in
stock and both are on clearance. One radio that sold for $249 is now
on closeout at $82. The other was $149 and now sells for $99. If that
isn’t ‘get this out of here’ pricing what is? It appears no new models
are coming to replace them. No surprise really."
http://tinyurl.com/5s8zfk
"More HD Fun"
"It was mentioned that retail stores such as Radio Shack are not
placing these radios on the shelf. Also, distributor such as
Crutchfield are liquidating stock, though I see a pretty decent
selection there. How does a radio manufacturer keep up with the
changes that Ibiquity keep making? It hurts. And though it is
published that consumers are more aware of HD radio, are they buying
into it? No."
http://www.eisenhamerengineering.com/wordpress/?p=70
"American DX Report"
"North American shortwave broadcasters have decided to conduct
research into current shortwave listening patterns in North America,
digital HD radio receivers are being removed from radio shop
inventories in the United States, and some American AM mediumwave
stations with IBOC capability are choosing to switch off due to
interference problems and the lack of listeners with IBOC receivers."
http://mt-shortwave.blogspot.com/200...dx-report.html
It's only a matter of time, now.
It's a good thing for AM, but maybe too bad too - for FM, it seems a
good idea.
Bruce Jensen
It's a bad idea for both AM and FM.

Not to mention the fact that consumer interest is zero. Hybrid
digital radio sales can't go much lower in spite of iBiquitys spin.

But, our worthless goverment keeps the funds rolling for a service
that no one wants. Booble Struble has convinced them that hybrid
digital is on the verge of a big consumer breakthrough. So far it's
anything but successful by any measure..


It's a little more substantive than that. FCC is committed to
digital, having mandated that all new modulation schemes for
broadcast MUST be digital during the Powell FCC.

Struble's system is in place. It's digital, at least in part, and
it offers something that passes for compatibility, despite the
interference created for most users.

FCC is going to continue to support IBOC. And other government
entities are subject to lobbying by entities heavily invested in HD
technology.

So there's a lot of effort to keep it alive, despite market
disinterest.

It's not going away anytime soon.


I like to refer to iBiquitys system as "hybrid digital" radio and not
"HD" radio because "high definition" it's not.

Damned straight.

On Sep 3, 12:27*pm, D Peter Maus wrote:
Rfburns wrote:
On Sep 3, 11:42 am, Rfburns wrote:
On Sep 3, 11:15 am, bpnjensen wrote:

On Sep 2, 10:38 pm, KaitoWRX911 wrote:
"HD Slowly Passes Into The Night"
"Radio Shack has given up on HD Radio. Their stores have two radios in
stock and both are on clearance. One radio that sold for $249 is now
on closeout at $82. The other was $149 and now sells for $99. If that
isn’t ‘get this out of here’ pricing what is? It appears no new models
are coming to replace them. No surprise really."
http://tinyurl.com/5s8zfk
"More HD Fun"
"It was mentioned that retail stores such as Radio Shack are not
placing these radios on the shelf. Also, distributor such as
Crutchfield are liquidating stock, though I see a pretty decent
selection there. How does a radio manufacturer keep up with the
changes that Ibiquity keep making? It hurts. And though it is
published that consumers are more aware of HD radio, are they buying
into it? No."
http://www.eisenhamerengineering.com/wordpress/?p=70
"American DX Report"
"North American shortwave broadcasters have decided to conduct
research into current shortwave listening patterns in North America,
digital HD radio receivers are being removed from radio shop
inventories in the United States, and some American AM mediumwave
stations with IBOC capability are choosing to switch off due to
interference problems and the lack of listeners with IBOC receivers."
http://mt-shortwave.blogspot.com/200...dx-report.html
It's only a matter of time, now.
It's a good thing for AM, but maybe too bad too - for FM, it seems a
good idea.
Bruce Jensen
It's a bad idea for both AM and FM.

Not to mention the fact that consumer interest is zero. *Hybrid
digital radio sales can't go much lower in spite of iBiquitys spin.

But, our worthless goverment keeps the funds rolling for a service
that no one wants. *Booble Struble has convinced them that hybrid
digital is on the verge of a big consumer breakthrough. *So far it's
anything but successful by any measure..

* *It's a little more substantive than that. FCC is committed to
digital, having mandated that all new modulation schemes for
broadcast MUST be digital during the Powell FCC.

* *Struble's system is in place. It's digital, at least in part, and
it offers something that passes for compatibility, despite the
interference created for most users.

* *FCC is going to continue to support IBOC. And other government
entities are subject to lobbying by entities heavily invested in HD
technology.

* *So there's a lot of effort to keep it alive, despite market
disinterest.

* *It's not going away anytime soon.

I like to refer to iBiquitys system as "hybrid digital" radio and not
"HD" radio because "high definition" it's not.

* *Damned straight.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

At some point, iBiquity's investors will stop pouring millions into HD
Radio, with no ROI. Even an HD mandate from the FCC would not help,
since consumers are not buying into it, and retailers are giving up on
it. And, a new administration is coming in, so support for HD Radio
may weaken. If Martin was so pro-HD, he would have voted to mandate HD
in Satrad receivers. As far as HD Radio disappearing, it is already
doing that on AM:

"Editorial: More Than Half Full"

"AM-HD continues to fight uphill. Several manufacturers showed
impressive new transmitter models designed to optimize and maintain HD
performance. Yet the growth of AM-HD stations coming on the air
appears stalled and we hear murmurings about some broadcasters pulling
back on AM-HD or wishing to renegotiate their commitments with
Ibiquity."

http://www.rwonline.com/pages/s.0044/t.13363.html

Of course, most of the FM-HD stations are NPR, which bilked Congress
out of tens-of-millions for upgrades to HD.

On Sep 3, 12:24 pm, KaitoWRX911 wrote:

Of course, most of the FM-HD stations are NPR, which bilked Congress
out of tens-of-millions for upgrades to HD.


There's another way Ibiquity makes money - by not paying out on their
rebates... I'll post it in a new thread. -Bob

"KaitoWRX911" wrote in message
...

Of course, most of the FM-HD stations are NPR, which bilked Congress
out of tens-of-millions for upgrades to HD.

Of about 1800 active HD signals, only about 100 or so are NPR.

On Sep 3, 9:20 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"KaitoWRX911" wrote in message

...

Of course, most of the FM-HD stations are NPR, which bilked Congress
out of tens-of-millions for upgrades to HD.

Of about 1800 active HD signals, only about 100 or so are NPR.

As checked on hdradio.com...

If you choose to see all stations in Minnesota (or audible in MN,
since they add some Wisconsin and North Dakota stations, too), the
list states this;

"There are 42 stations broadcasting 59 HD Radio channels, more coming
soon*"


Of those 59 HD channels, *** 32 *** of them are NPR affiliated
stations; the vast majority of which are MPR - Minnesota Public
Radio... Over half of the available channels carry NPR programming.

So, if what Mr. Eduardo is saying is correct, that would mean the
balance of the "only about 100 or so" NPR affiliated stations - 68 or
so, by my count - would have to be scattered amongst the rest of the
50 states? That's way less than 1.5 HD channels PER STATE!!!

Tell me, Mr. "Eduardo", how much did you earn for selling your soul,
to shill for this disgusting corporation, Ibiquity, anyway?

HD radio is Dead!
cuhulin

D Peter Maus wrote:


It's a little more substantive than that. FCC is committed to digital,
having mandated that all new modulation schemes for broadcast MUST be
digital during the Powell FCC.


FCC is going to continue to support IBOC. And other government
entities are subject to lobbying by entities heavily invested in HD
technology.

The FCC can change it's mind. Spectrum is precious and digital wastes
spectrum.

Dave wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote:


It's a little more substantive than that. FCC is committed to
digital, having mandated that all new modulation schemes for broadcast
MUST be digital during the Powell FCC.


FCC is going to continue to support IBOC. And other government
entities are subject to lobbying by entities heavily invested in HD
technology.

The FCC can change it's mind. Spectrum is precious and digital wastes
spectrum.


Sure FCC can change it's mind about IBOC. Bill Clinton can be
monogamous, too.

The question is: Will either happen?