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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. Justice Department unveiled proposed new
rules on Friday for FBI investigations, changes a civil liberties group
criticized for giving agents powers to investigate Americans without
proper suspicion.

In its first major change in years, the Justice Department proposed a
consolidated set of guidelines for domestic FBI operations, seeking to
apply the same rules for criminal and terrorism cases, and for
collecting foreign intelligence.

The guidelines were first adopted in the 1970s following disclosures
that the FBI under J. Edgar Hoover had run a widespread domestic
surveillance program that spied on civil rights activists and political
opponents.

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By James Vicini

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. Justice Department unveiled proposed new
rules on Friday for FBI investigations, changes a civil liberties group
criticized for giving agents powers to investigate Americans without
proper suspicion.

In its first major change in years, the Justice Department proposed a
consolidated set of guidelines for domestic FBI operations, seeking to
apply the same rules for criminal and terrorism cases, and for
collecting foreign intelligence.

The guidelines were first adopted in the 1970s following disclosures
that the FBI under J. Edgar Hoover had run a widespread domestic
surveillance program that spied on civil rights activists and political
opponents.

http://www.reuters.com/article/domes...47176820080912


Very revealing how you so convientiently omitted the ACLU from your
post:

"The American Civil Liberties Union expressed concern the rewritten
rules had been drafted in a way to allow the FBI to begin surveillance
without factual evidence to back it up."

ACLU - Established in 1920 by Roger Baldwin (who candidly stated that
"Communism [was] the goal" toward which his efforts were directed),
Much more http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/g...asp?grpid=6145
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Very revealing how you so [conveniently] omitted the ACLU from your
post:

Only to you. I am concerned, but I am not now, nor have I ever been a
Communist (not that there's anything wrong with it...)
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On Sep 14, 10:20*am, Dave wrote:
wrote:
Very revealing how you so [conveniently] omitted the ACLU from your
post:


Only to you. *I am concerned, but I am not now, nor have I ever been a
Communist (not that there's anything wrong with it...)


"About three years ago JOHN MCCAIN became probably the first
politician who declared the CIA a 'rogue agency.'"

"(...) the place [CIA] became more liberal in the 1990s as the agency
pushed out hundreds of longtime employees and the Clintonites put
their people in place."

http://www.enterstageright.com/archi...07scarboroughi...

author of "Sabotage - America's Enemies Within The CIA"

http://www.amazon.com/Sabotage-Ameri.../dp/1596985100

How current and former CIA officers fueled conspiracy theories that
President Bush orchestrated the 9/11 attacks on America

How a CIA leak to the New York Times deprived the U.S. of critical
information in the War on Terror

How press leaks by the CIA have damaged relations with our foreign
allies in the WAr on Terror

How a CIA analyst worked with Democrats to sabotage the nomination of
John Bolton to tha UN

HOW CLINTON'S DOWNSIZING OF THE CIA LED TO THE CLOSING OF STATIONS IN
SCORES OF JIHADIST BREEDING GROUNDS - INCLUDING HAMBURG, GERMANY,
WHERE THE 9/11 PLOT WAS HATCHED.

"We are really still paying for what happened to the CIA and the
whole
intelligence community in the 90s. For example, the CIA structure in
Indonesia, the largest Muslim country in the world, was down to a
handful of officers by the end of the 90s. The CIA closed scores of
bases during the 90s, all over the world, including in Hamburg,
Germany -- the place where the 9/11 plot really began, and where
radicalized Muslims were really cropping up in Europe."

"Secondly, in the 90s we did not invest in technology to eavesdrop on
these people, and in Sabotage I explain that the National Security
Agency has been playing catch-up to try to come up with new
technologies to match e-mail and the Internet. These two things
burgeoned in the 90s, and they paralleled the rise of radical Islam.
But NASA’s budget was going down, the CIA’s budget was going down. We
just didn’t keep up."

"About three years ago JOHN MCCAIN became probably the first
politician who declared the CIA a 'rogue agency.' And it is because
inside the CIA, the bureaucracy at Langley had a priority of leaking
and stopping Bush administration programs, rather than following the
policy directives of the White House. And we’ve seen that in
countless
leaks about terrorist surveillance programs, the prisons where they
were trying to interrogate top-ranking al Qaeda prisoners, in station
reports from Baghdad. When Porter Goss took over the CIA in 2004,
really trying to reform it, what happened? He died by a million
leaks.
It was a cut every day, until Porter Goss by 2006 actually was forced
out.

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=21538

"As violence in Iraq mounted, CIA officers rarely left their
protected
station in the heavily secured Green Zone of Baghdad...It was no
surprise that the CIA failed to penetrate the insurgent organizations
in Iraq. Officers were heard complaining about their assignment to
Iraq and about ‘Bush's war.' Army general George Casey, the top U.S.
commander in Iraq, complained that CIA analytical reports were
superficial, and that topics raised in the reports were not pursued."

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/...arborough.html
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On Sep 14, 2:02*pm, wrote:
On Sep 14, 10:20*am, Dave wrote:

wrote:
Very revealing how you so [conveniently] omitted the ACLU from your
post:


Only to you. *I am concerned, but I am not now, nor have I ever been a
Communist (not that there's anything wrong with it...)


"About three years ago JOHN MCCAIN became probably the first
politician who declared the CIA a 'rogue agency.'"

"(...) the place [CIA] became more liberal in the 1990s as the agency
pushed out hundreds of longtime employees and the Clintonites put
their people in place."

http://www.enterstageright.com/archi...07scarboroughi...

author of *"Sabotage - America's Enemies Within The CIA"

http://www.amazon.com/Sabotage-Ameri.../dp/1596985100

How current and former CIA officers fueled conspiracy theories that
President Bush orchestrated the 9/11 attacks on America

How a CIA leak to the New York Times deprived the U.S. of critical
information in the War on Terror

How press leaks by the CIA have damaged relations with our foreign
allies in the WAr on Terror

How a CIA analyst worked with Democrats to sabotage the nomination of
John Bolton to tha UN

HOW CLINTON'S DOWNSIZING OF THE CIA LED TO THE CLOSING OF STATIONS IN
SCORES OF JIHADIST BREEDING GROUNDS - INCLUDING HAMBURG, GERMANY,
WHERE THE 9/11 PLOT WAS HATCHED.

"We are really still paying for what happened to the CIA and the
whole
intelligence community in the 90s. For example, the CIA structure in
Indonesia, the largest Muslim country in the world, was down to a
handful of officers by the end of the 90s. The CIA closed scores of
bases during the 90s, all over the world, including in Hamburg,
Germany -- the place where the 9/11 plot really began, and where
radicalized Muslims were really cropping up in Europe."

"Secondly, in the 90s we did not invest in technology to eavesdrop on
these people, and in Sabotage I explain that the National Security
Agency has been playing catch-up to try to come up with new
technologies to match e-mail and the Internet. These two things
burgeoned in the 90s, and they paralleled the rise of radical Islam.
But NASA’s budget was going down, the CIA’s budget was going down. We
just didn’t keep up."

"About three years ago JOHN MCCAIN became probably the first
politician who declared the CIA a 'rogue agency.' And it is because
inside the CIA, the bureaucracy at Langley had a priority of leaking
and stopping Bush administration programs, rather than following the
policy directives of the White House. And we’ve seen that in
countless
leaks about terrorist surveillance programs, the prisons where they
were trying to interrogate top-ranking al Qaeda prisoners, in station
reports from Baghdad. When Porter Goss took over the CIA in 2004,
really trying to reform it, what happened? He died by a million
leaks.
It was a cut every day, until Porter Goss by 2006 actually was forced
out.

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=21538

"As violence in Iraq mounted, CIA officers rarely left their
protected
station in the heavily secured Green Zone of Baghdad...It was no
surprise that the CIA failed to penetrate the insurgent organizations
in Iraq. Officers were heard complaining about their assignment to
Iraq and about ‘Bush's war.' Army general George Casey, the top U.S.
commander in Iraq, complained that CIA analytical reports were
superficial, and that topics raised in the reports were not pursued."

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/...e_rowan_scarbo...


First of all, the term: "Liberal Fascist" cannot be by correct any
definition. But, I look at who posted it and just shake my head.

You really are quite the republican puppet aren't you?



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wrote:

On Sep 14, 2:02 pm, wrote:
On Sep 14, 10:20 am, Dave wrote:

wrote:
Very revealing how you so [conveniently] omitted the ACLU from your
post:


Only to you. I am concerned, but I am not now, nor have I ever been a
Communist (not that there's anything wrong with it...)


"About three years ago JOHN MCCAIN became probably the first
politician who declared the CIA a 'rogue agency.'"

"(...) the place [CIA] became more liberal in the 1990s as the agency
pushed out hundreds of longtime employees and the Clintonites put
their people in place."

http://www.enterstageright.com/archi...07scarboroughi...

author of "Sabotage - America's Enemies Within The CIA"

http://www.amazon.com/Sabotage-Ameri.../dp/1596985100

How current and former CIA officers fueled conspiracy theories that
President Bush orchestrated the 9/11 attacks on America

How a CIA leak to the New York Times deprived the U.S. of critical
information in the War on Terror

How press leaks by the CIA have damaged relations with our foreign
allies in the WAr on Terror

How a CIA analyst worked with Democrats to sabotage the nomination of
John Bolton to tha UN

HOW CLINTON'S DOWNSIZING OF THE CIA LED TO THE CLOSING OF STATIONS IN
SCORES OF JIHADIST BREEDING GROUNDS - INCLUDING HAMBURG, GERMANY,
WHERE THE 9/11 PLOT WAS HATCHED.

"We are really still paying for what happened to the CIA and the
whole
intelligence community in the 90s. For example, the CIA structure in
Indonesia, the largest Muslim country in the world, was down to a
handful of officers by the end of the 90s. The CIA closed scores of
bases during the 90s, all over the world, including in Hamburg,
Germany -- the place where the 9/11 plot really began, and where
radicalized Muslims were really cropping up in Europe."

"Secondly, in the 90s we did not invest in technology to eavesdrop on
these people, and in Sabotage I explain that the National Security
Agency has been playing catch-up to try to come up with new
technologies to match e-mail and the Internet. These two things
burgeoned in the 90s, and they paralleled the rise of radical Islam.
But NASA’s budget was going down, the CIA’s budget was going down. We
just didn’t keep up."

"About three years ago JOHN MCCAIN became probably the first
politician who declared the CIA a 'rogue agency.' And it is because
inside the CIA, the bureaucracy at Langley had a priority of leaking
and stopping Bush administration programs, rather than following the
policy directives of the White House. And we’ve seen that in
countless
leaks about terrorist surveillance programs, the prisons where they
were trying to interrogate top-ranking al Qaeda prisoners, in station
reports from Baghdad. When Porter Goss took over the CIA in 2004,
really trying to reform it, what happened? He died by a million
leaks.
It was a cut every day, until Porter Goss by 2006 actually was forced
out.

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=21538

"As violence in Iraq mounted, CIA officers rarely left their
protected
station in the heavily secured Green Zone of Baghdad...It was no
surprise that the CIA failed to penetrate the insurgent organizations
in Iraq. Officers were heard complaining about their assignment to
Iraq and about ‘Bush's war.' Army general George Casey, the top U.S.
commander in Iraq, complained that CIA analytical reports were
superficial, and that topics raised in the reports were not pursued."

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/...e_rowan_scarbo...


First of all, the term: "Liberal Fascist" cannot be by correct any
definition. But, I look at who posted it and just shake my head.

You really are quite the republican puppet aren't you?


And you are in Obama's pocket, boy. He plays with you when he scratches his
Marxist balls.


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On Sep 14, 2:29*pm, wrote:
On Sep 14, 2:02*pm, wrote:





On Sep 14, 10:20*am, Dave wrote:


wrote:
Very revealing how you so [conveniently] omitted the ACLU from your
post:


Only to you. *I am concerned, but I am not now, nor have I ever been a
Communist (not that there's anything wrong with it...)


"About three years ago JOHN MCCAIN became probably the first
politician who declared the CIA a 'rogue agency.'"


"(...) the place [CIA] became more liberal in the 1990s as the agency
pushed out hundreds of longtime employees and the Clintonites put
their people in place."


http://www.enterstageright.com/archi...07scarboroughi...


author of *"Sabotage - America's Enemies Within The CIA"


http://www.amazon.com/Sabotage-Ameri.../dp/1596985100


How current and former CIA officers fueled conspiracy theories that
President Bush orchestrated the 9/11 attacks on America


How a CIA leak to the New York Times deprived the U.S. of critical
information in the War on Terror


How press leaks by the CIA have damaged relations with our foreign
allies in the WAr on Terror


How a CIA analyst worked with Democrats to sabotage the nomination of
John Bolton to tha UN


HOW CLINTON'S DOWNSIZING OF THE CIA LED TO THE CLOSING OF STATIONS IN
SCORES OF JIHADIST BREEDING GROUNDS - INCLUDING HAMBURG, GERMANY,
WHERE THE 9/11 PLOT WAS HATCHED.


"We are really still paying for what happened to the CIA and the
whole
intelligence community in the 90s. For example, the CIA structure in
Indonesia, the largest Muslim country in the world, was down to a
handful of officers by the end of the 90s. The CIA closed scores of
bases during the 90s, all over the world, including in Hamburg,
Germany -- the place where the 9/11 plot really began, and where
radicalized Muslims were really cropping up in Europe."


"Secondly, in the 90s we did not invest in technology to eavesdrop on
these people, and in Sabotage I explain that the National Security
Agency has been playing catch-up to try to come up with new
technologies to match e-mail and the Internet. These two things
burgeoned in the 90s, and they paralleled the rise of radical Islam.
But NASA’s budget was going down, the CIA’s budget was going down. We
just didn’t keep up."


"About three years ago JOHN MCCAIN became probably the first
politician who declared the CIA a 'rogue agency.' And it is because
inside the CIA, the bureaucracy at Langley had a priority of leaking
and stopping Bush administration programs, rather than following the
policy directives of the White House. And we’ve seen that in
countless
leaks about terrorist surveillance programs, the prisons where they
were trying to interrogate top-ranking al Qaeda prisoners, in station
reports from Baghdad. When Porter Goss took over the CIA in 2004,
really trying to reform it, what happened? He died by a million
leaks.
It was a cut every day, until Porter Goss by 2006 actually was forced
out.


http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=21538


"As violence in Iraq mounted, CIA officers rarely left their
protected
station in the heavily secured Green Zone of Baghdad...It was no
surprise that the CIA failed to penetrate the insurgent organizations
in Iraq. Officers were heard complaining about their assignment to
Iraq and about ‘Bush's war.' Army general George Casey, the top U.S.
commander in Iraq, complained that CIA analytical reports were
superficial, and that topics raised in the reports were not pursued."


http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/...e_rowan_scarbo...


First of all, the term: "Liberal Fascist" cannot be by correct any
definition. But, I look at who posted it and just shake my head.

You really are quite the republican puppet aren't you?


You are a puppet of Neo-Communism.

http://www.reason.com/blog/show/124122.html
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On Sep 14, 2:02 pm, wrote:
On Sep 14, 10:20 am, Dave wrote:

wrote:
Very revealing how you so [conveniently] omitted the ACLU from your
post:


Only to you. I am concerned, but I am not now, nor have I ever been a
Communist (not that there's anything wrong with it...)


"About three years ago JOHN MCCAIN became probably the first
politician who declared the CIA a 'rogue agency.'"

"(...) the place [CIA] became more liberal in the 1990s as the agency
pushed out hundreds of longtime employees and the Clintonites put
their people in place."

http://www.enterstageright.com/archi...07scarboroughi...

author of "Sabotage - America's Enemies Within The CIA"

http://www.amazon.com/Sabotage-Ameri.../dp/1596985100

How current and former CIA officers fueled conspiracy theories that
President Bush orchestrated the 9/11 attacks on America

How a CIA leak to the New York Times deprived the U.S. of critical
information in the War on Terror

How press leaks by the CIA have damaged relations with our foreign
allies in the WAr on Terror

How a CIA analyst worked with Democrats to sabotage the nomination of
John Bolton to tha UN

HOW CLINTON'S DOWNSIZING OF THE CIA LED TO THE CLOSING OF STATIONS IN
SCORES OF JIHADIST BREEDING GROUNDS - INCLUDING HAMBURG, GERMANY,
WHERE THE 9/11 PLOT WAS HATCHED.

"We are really still paying for what happened to the CIA and the
whole
intelligence community in the 90s. For example, the CIA structure in
Indonesia, the largest Muslim country in the world, was down to a
handful of officers by the end of the 90s. The CIA closed scores of
bases during the 90s, all over the world, including in Hamburg,
Germany -- the place where the 9/11 plot really began, and where
radicalized Muslims were really cropping up in Europe."

"Secondly, in the 90s we did not invest in technology to eavesdrop on
these people, and in Sabotage I explain that the National Security
Agency has been playing catch-up to try to come up with new
technologies to match e-mail and the Internet. These two things
burgeoned in the 90s, and they paralleled the rise of radical Islam.
But NASA’s budget was going down, the CIA’s budget was going down. We
just didn’t keep up."

"About three years ago JOHN MCCAIN became probably the first
politician who declared the CIA a 'rogue agency.' And it is because
inside the CIA, the bureaucracy at Langley had a priority of leaking
and stopping Bush administration programs, rather than following the
policy directives of the White House. And we’ve seen that in
countless
leaks about terrorist surveillance programs, the prisons where they
were trying to interrogate top-ranking al Qaeda prisoners, in station
reports from Baghdad. When Porter Goss took over the CIA in 2004,
really trying to reform it, what happened? He died by a million
leaks.
It was a cut every day, until Porter Goss by 2006 actually was forced
out.

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=21538

"As violence in Iraq mounted, CIA officers rarely left their
protected
station in the heavily secured Green Zone of Baghdad...It was no
surprise that the CIA failed to penetrate the insurgent organizations
in Iraq. Officers were heard complaining about their assignment to
Iraq and about ‘Bush's war.' Army general George Casey, the top U.S.
commander in Iraq, complained that CIA analytical reports were
superficial, and that topics raised in the reports were not pursued."

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/...e_rowan_scarbo...


First of all, the term: "Liberal Fascist" cannot be by correct any
definition. But, I look at who posted it and just shake my head.

You really are quite the republican puppet aren't you?

A liberal by term is one who is very free thinking both in actions but in
words. Therefore, it would be much of a contradiction in terms to state a
liberal to be a fascist. Seeing that fascism is the combination of
government and business as practiced in General Francos Spain and
Mussolini's Italy, America's largest trading partner, the Red Chinese
Communists would be much more involved in Fascism on the economic and
military sense.

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On Sep 14, 12:29*pm, wrote:
On Sep 14, 2:02*pm, wrote:





On Sep 14, 10:20*am, Dave wrote:


wrote:
Very revealing how you so [conveniently] omitted the ACLU from your
post:


Only to you. *I am concerned, but I am not now, nor have I ever been a
Communist (not that there's anything wrong with it...)


"About three years ago JOHN MCCAIN became probably the first
politician who declared the CIA a 'rogue agency.'"


"(...) the place [CIA] became more liberal in the 1990s as the agency
pushed out hundreds of longtime employees and the Clintonites put
their people in place."


http://www.enterstageright.com/archi...07scarboroughi...


author of *"Sabotage - America's Enemies Within The CIA"


http://www.amazon.com/Sabotage-Ameri.../dp/1596985100


How current and former CIA officers fueled conspiracy theories that
President Bush orchestrated the 9/11 attacks on America


How a CIA leak to the New York Times deprived the U.S. of critical
information in the War on Terror


How press leaks by the CIA have damaged relations with our foreign
allies in the WAr on Terror


How a CIA analyst worked with Democrats to sabotage the nomination of
John Bolton to tha UN


HOW CLINTON'S DOWNSIZING OF THE CIA LED TO THE CLOSING OF STATIONS IN
SCORES OF JIHADIST BREEDING GROUNDS - INCLUDING HAMBURG, GERMANY,
WHERE THE 9/11 PLOT WAS HATCHED.


"We are really still paying for what happened to the CIA and the
whole
intelligence community in the 90s. For example, the CIA structure in
Indonesia, the largest Muslim country in the world, was down to a
handful of officers by the end of the 90s. The CIA closed scores of
bases during the 90s, all over the world, including in Hamburg,
Germany -- the place where the 9/11 plot really began, and where
radicalized Muslims were really cropping up in Europe."


"Secondly, in the 90s we did not invest in technology to eavesdrop on
these people, and in Sabotage I explain that the National Security
Agency has been playing catch-up to try to come up with new
technologies to match e-mail and the Internet. These two things
burgeoned in the 90s, and they paralleled the rise of radical Islam.
But NASA’s budget was going down, the CIA’s budget was going down. We
just didn’t keep up."


"About three years ago JOHN MCCAIN became probably the first
politician who declared the CIA a 'rogue agency.' And it is because
inside the CIA, the bureaucracy at Langley had a priority of leaking
and stopping Bush administration programs, rather than following the
policy directives of the White House. And we’ve seen that in
countless
leaks about terrorist surveillance programs, the prisons where they
were trying to interrogate top-ranking al Qaeda prisoners, in station
reports from Baghdad. When Porter Goss took over the CIA in 2004,
really trying to reform it, what happened? He died by a million
leaks.
It was a cut every day, until Porter Goss by 2006 actually was forced
out.


http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=21538


"As violence in Iraq mounted, CIA officers rarely left their
protected
station in the heavily secured Green Zone of Baghdad...It was no
surprise that the CIA failed to penetrate the insurgent organizations
in Iraq. Officers were heard complaining about their assignment to
Iraq and about ‘Bush's war.' Army general George Casey, the top U.S.
commander in Iraq, complained that CIA analytical reports were
superficial, and that topics raised in the reports were not pursued."


http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/...e_rowan_scarbo...


First of all, the term: "Liberal Fascist" cannot be by correct any
definition. But, I look at who posted it and just shake my head.

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wrote:
On Sep 14, 10:20 am, Dave wrote:
wrote:
Very revealing how you so [conveniently] omitted the ACLU from your
post:

Only to you. I am concerned, but I am not now, nor have I ever been a
Communist (not that there's anything wrong with it...)


"About three years ago JOHN MCCAIN became probably the first
politician who declared the CIA a 'rogue agency.'"

"(...) the place [CIA] became more liberal in the 1990s as the agency
pushed out hundreds of longtime employees and the Clintonites put
their people in place."

Bush replaced career civil servants with unqualified political
appointees in every federal agency, including CIA. We will be very
lucky to undo the damage in time.

Colonel Kwiatkowski is a friend of Lew Rockwell, who works for the Von
Mises Institute, who you frequently cite.

Kwiatkowski, 43, a now-retired Air Force officer who served in the
Pentagon's Near East and South Asia (NESA) unit in the year before the
invasion of Iraq, observed how the Pentagon's Iraq war-planning unit
manufactured scare stories about Iraq's weapons and ties to terrorists.
"It wasn't intelligence‚ -- it was propaganda," she says. "They'd take a
little bit of intelligence, cherry-pick it, make it sound much more
exciting, usually by taking it out of context, often by juxtaposition of
two pieces of information that don't belong together." It was by turning
such bogus intelligence into talking points for U.S. officials‚ --
including ominous lines in speeches by President Bush and Vice President
Cheney, along with Secretary of State Colin Powell's testimony at the
U.N. Security Council last February‚ -- that the administration pushed
American public opinion into supporting an unnecessary war.

Until now, the story of how the Bush administration produced its wildly
exaggerated estimates of the threat posed by Iraq has never been
revealed in full. But, for the first time, a detailed investigation by
Mother Jones, based on dozens of interviews‚ -- some on the record, some
with officials who insisted on anonymity‚ -- exposes the workings of a
secret Pentagon intelligence unit and of the Defense Department's
war-planning task force, the Office of Special Plans. It's the story of
a close-knit team of ideologues who spent a decade or more hammering out
plans for an attack on Iraq and who used the events of September 11,
2001, to set it into motion.

http://www.motherjones.com/news/feat...01/12_405.html


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