Patriot Games wrote:
...would have
no problem with his working to make local public education more
Euro-Socialist...

Watch it; the Euro-Socialists have a higher quality of life than us TV
hillbillies here in America.

Patriot Games wrote:
On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 13:10:18 +0000, Dave wrote:
michael wrote:
Patriot Games. Yes I believe it. Just few weeks ago. Obama presented
an ad..linking McCain to The Keating five. Which he was cleared.
So its fair McCain presented an ad Obama is linked to Bill Ayers. Fair
game. Do you think Obama should be untouched by the media? Obama
owns the media..why he's getting a pass.
Wake up Patriot Games.
Obama gets press because he gets ratings. Period.

No. Obama gets a free pass on things like Ayers because most of the
press in in the tank for him.

ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC & CNN are all in the tank for Obama.



Tank? What tank?

TV stations play what their viewers want to watch. If you want news,
look elsewhere.

Mike C. wrote:
"michael" wrote in message
ng.com...
Patriot Games. Yes I believe it. Just few weeks ago. Obama presented
an ad..linking McCain to The Keating five. Which he was cleared.
So its fair McCain presented an ad Obama is linked to Bill Ayers. Fair
game. Do you think Obama should be untouched by the media? Obama
owns the media..why he's getting a pass.

The Keating stuff was brought up in response to McCain attacking Obama on
Ayers, not vice versa. But you, of course, being a Republican can't admit
anything honestly.


And the Keating scandal involves runaway financial collapse, wiped out
retirement plans, etc., so it's a little more relevant than someone who
blew up a ladies room in the Pentagon back in the "'60s".

RHF wrote:
On Oct 11, 9:45 am, "Mike C." wrote:
"michael" wrote in message

ng.com...

Patriot Games. Yes I believe it. Just few weeks ago. Obama presented
an ad..linking McCain to The Keating five. Which he was cleared.
So its fair McCain presented an ad Obama is linked to Bill Ayers. Fair
game. Do you think Obama should be untouched by the media? Obama
owns the media..why he's getting a pass.
The Keating stuff was brought up in response to McCain attacking Obama on
Ayers, not vice versa.

- But you, of course, being a Republican
- can't admit anything honestly.

MC - I can 'honestly' admit to being a Registered Voter.
{ and there is an acorn of truth in that ;-}

count every vote : voting - just do it ~ RHF
.
.
The Questions -was- McCain's AD Linking Barack
Hussein Obama to the Terrorist Bill Ayers :

Have You Seen It ?

Do You Believe It ?

(OT) : 2008 Election News Flash : McCain's AD Linking
Barack Hussein Obama to the Terrorist Bill Ayers
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...04bfba13e68046
.

Can you produce a photo of Ayers and Obama together? Surely if they
were tight there'd be photos.

Billy Burpelson wrote:
Brenda Ann wrote:

If he can pull that off, he may win the election by as much as 2%.
I've a feeling that the polls do not represent anything close to
reality, just as the exit polls did not in the last election.

I hate to be cynical, but have you at least considered that the exit
polls may have been correct -- until the election(s) got stolen.

From Beloved Leader Joe Stalin: "He who casts the ballot controls
nothing; he who counts the ballots controls everything".

This country has been sending people overseas to monitor -their-
elections. After the last two elections here, a legitimate question
might be "Who is monitoring -our- election"?

Ohio was stolen. Proven fact.

On Oct 11, 11:03*am, Dave wrote:
Patriot Games wrote:
...would have
no problem with his working to make local public education more
Euro-Socialist...

- Watch it;
-*the Euro-Socialists have a higher quality of life
- than us TV hillbillies here in America.

Dave - 'us' speak for yourself Dave.

This is the 21st Century and I am a . . .
HDTV Mountain William - tivo that ~ RHF

On Oct 11, 1:45*pm, Bernard Peters wrote:
On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 12:43:00 -0400, Patriot Games wrote:
On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 13:10:18 +0000, Dave wrote:
michael wrote:
Patriot Games. Yes I believe it. Just few weeks ago. Obama presented
an ad..linking McCain to The Keating five. Which he was cleared. So
its fair McCain presented an ad Obama is linked to Bill Ayers. Fair
game. Do you think Obama should be untouched by the media? Obama owns
the media..why he's getting a pass. Wake up Patriot Games.
Obama gets press because he gets ratings. *Period.

No. Obama gets a free pass on things like Ayers because most of the
press in in the tank for him.

ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC & CNN are all in the tank for Obama.

All these are owned by huge republican't companies. The problem is that
the republican't party has burned so many bridges and are trying to get
by with so much falsehood that it's near impossible to cover up the
obvious without loosing faith of viewers, which of course is how the
networks make money.

D'Oh! - Aren't All Huge {Successful} Companies
owned by Republicans ?


FoKKKs news network has lost all validity that it's only quoted when it
makes outrageous claims. Allot of carriers have been ruined there.

Ah there we go again with the KKK This and the
KKK That - Here a KKK There a KKK Everywhere
a KKK - - - The Obamanation sure does like to
start Screaming K K K


oK oK oK we heard ya ~ RHF

Brenda Ann wrote:
"Mike C." wrote in message
...
"Patriot Games" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 16:39:45 -0700, "michael"
wrote:
Patriot Games. Yes I believe it. Just few weeks ago. Obama presented
an ad..linking McCain to The Keating five. Which he was cleared.
So its fair McCain presented an ad Obama is linked to Bill Ayers. Fair
game. Do you think Obama should be untouched by the media? Obama
owns the media..why he's getting a pass.
Wake up Patriot Games.
Obama linking McCain to the Keating Five is like a Life Magazine
Special Edition exposing the connection between cows and milk....

McCain linking Obama to Ayers is NEW and BLOCKBUSTER stuff.
It's not new, or blockbuseter. It registered a "ho-hum" during the
primaries, just as it's doing now.

And I'm pretty sure we have still not heard the whole story...
Please keep hammering away at irrelevant crap. I'd like to see Obama with
a 20pt lead in the polls by 11/4.


If he can pull that off, he may win the election by as much as 2%. I've a
feeling that the polls do not represent anything close to reality, just as
the exit polls did not in the last election. People have started to get wise
to the way polls work, and are telling pollsters anything BUT what they
really feel.



That's an excellent point. The % difference may be higher than you think
as the phone pollsters can only go for the people with landlines - they
do not account for the cell-only crowds (approx. 20% of households).
That group tends to be younger and leans toward Obama. As always, there
are more confounding things to enter the picture and it can be extremely
difficult to say what is the real picture. But at this point in time,
the average numbers from a wide variety of pollsters, puts Obama roughly
8% points ahead. Even some of the Republican sites are giving Obama
anywhere from 277 - 364 EVs (yeah, it's a large range!).

JB

On Oct 11, 3:17*pm, Billy Burpelson wrote:
Brenda Ann wrote:
If he can pull that off, he may win the election by as much as 2%. *I've a
feeling that the polls do not represent anything close to reality, just as
the exit polls did not in the last election.

- I hate to be cynical, but have you at least considered
- that the exit polls may have been correct -- until the
- election(s) got stolen.

BB - OMG - It's A Conspiracy All Over Again
http://www.nouvelordremondial.cc/wp-...conspiracy.jpg
already rolling out the excuses -if- obama loses

keep dreaming little 'acorn' ~ RHF


*From Beloved Leader Joe Stalin: "He who casts the ballot controls
nothing; he who counts the ballots controls everything".

This country has been sending people overseas to monitor -their-
elections. After the last two elections here, a legitimate question
might be "Who is monitoring -our- election"?

On Oct 11, 1:59 pm, "Brenda Ann" wrote:

- - "Mike C." wrote in message
- - Please keep hammering away at irrelevant crap.
- - I'd like to see Obama with a 20pt lead in the polls by 11/4.

- If he can pull that off, he may win the election by
- as much as 2%.

Barack Hussein Obama II and the Wilder or Bradley Effect . . .
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...df37067cc76c5d

Obama's Polling Lead is claimed to be 11% so figure
that 'translates' to about 3.3% of the Popular Vote
-but- Obama/Biden get 301 Electoral College Votes
to McCain/Palin's 237 Electoral College Votes
which is a 'delta' of 64 Votes ~12%

Barack Husssein Obama II could Win with a Significant Margin-of-
Victory
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...7e87c07baef3c0

2008 Election Politics - The Secret to a Democrat Party
Winning Ticket in 2008 : Overcoming the Black -versus-
Feminist Dilemma
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...6c96fca3ce14d1

- I've a feeling that the polls do not represent anything
- close to reality,

Yes since Race is a Factor "Irrational Reality" for a
small percentage [10%]of White Voters; and an
Imposed Reality for many/most of Black Voters*.
* Note a Natural Outcome of being a Minority Group
resulting in Greater Group Identification and Ethno
Cohesiveness.

- just as the exit polls did not in the last election.

Bad Questions and/or Bad Pollsters -equal- Bad Results.

- People have started to get wise to the way polls work,
- and are telling pollsters anything BUT what they really feel.

Now that is True and those same people will be Laughing
all the way home once they get out of the Pollsters sight.

The American Citizen's Right to a "Secret Ballot" -versus-
The Presses' In-Your-Face Exit Polls
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secret_ballot

1 - Some People Just Love to Lie* to the Exit Pollers.
Jerk the Jerks-Off for Getting-In Your Private Bussiness
[ Cause it is supposed to be a "Secret Ballot" without
Big Brother or Uber-Party or Mega Media looking over
your Shoulder and Getting-In-Your-Face. ]
* It's Good for a Laugh on the Jerks all the way home.

2 - Others when They have a Camera & Mic shoved
In-Their-Face are too 'embarrassed' to say who They
really Voted For : Not Wanting to be Questioned by
the Exit Poller; and may be even Called a Racist by
the Exit Poller : Amounts to "Voter Intimidation" of
all other Voters in hearing range that are going to
the Polling Place.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_intimidation

3 - The especially good 'trick' is to do the Entrance
Poll 'On-the-Way-In' prior to the Voter actually Voting :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entrance_poll
* Get In-the-Voter's Face and Ask Them Who They
are 'going' to be Voting For; and If They say the
wrong name.
* Then Ask Them in a LOUD Voice :
? Why They Will Not Be Voting For Abc Xyz ?
? Is It Because of His Race ? / Her Sex ?
- - - followed-up-by - - -
? Are You A Racist ? / ? Are You A Sexist ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_intimidation

4 - Remember the Voter has the Right to say . . .
It's None of Your Business. {Get Out-of-My Face }

5 - TIP - Vote By Mail and Avoid the Exit Polls ;;-)

and with that i will exit ~ RHF