(OT) : The Views and Comments of Foreign Trolls and LackeyInternational Toads
 

On Nov 1, 5:28*pm, Telamon
wrote:
In article ,
*Bernard Peters wrote:



On Sat, 01 Nov 2008 07:17:11 -0700, Mike wrote:

I was particularly struck and humbled by the words of Charlie Cook in
today's National Journal:

No matter what your politics, John McCain is an American hero. We owe
him a great deal of respect. We are very lucky to have candidates of his
calibre in America!

Because he had a PRIVILEGED Admiral father in the service..
His poor scores in pilot's school...
He dis-obeyed commands about his mission...
Leading him to be shot down.....
Loosing a multi-million $$$ aircraft....(beside the other three)
breaking under 5 years of torture and brainwashing...
being "nuts" as described by his own party in 2000

Any other servicemen would not have made it past flight school much less
not be court-marshaled for loosing 4 Aircraft. It sure would be nice to
be one of the privileged, then of course I'd vote for him as a hero!

Let say you are 100% correct about what you wrote above. The guy still
few a plane into hostile territory. The guy still got into a jet after
bailing out 3 times.

McCain is a war hero. He is also a person with poor judgement and
impulse control. I don't like him, his policies, his judgement in
general but the guy faced fire and kept on flying missions anyway until
he was captured. Most people would skulk away somehow rather than do
their duty as McCain has done.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon,

You are trying to debate American Politics with
someone who at best is an American who chooses
to use a Foreign Newsgroup Server "albasani.net"
origination out of "gmx.at" {Osterreich}. And
at worst BP is a Foreigner : So BP's views and
comments on American Politics simply do not
matter to Americans who are the Only Ones with
the real Right to Vote in American Elections.

imho - bp - is just another foreign troll
or want to be lackey international toad ~ RHF

(OT) : The Views and Comments of Foreign Trolls and LackeyInternational Toads
 

On Sat, 01 Nov 2008 19:31:06 -0700, RHF wrote:

On Nov 1, 5:28Â*pm, Telamon
wrote:
In article ,
Â*Bernard Peters wrote:



On Sat, 01 Nov 2008 07:17:11 -0700, Mike wrote:

I was particularly struck and humbled by the words of Charlie Cook
in today's National Journal:

You are trying to debate American Politics with someone who at best is
an American who chooses to use a Foreign Newsgroup Server "albasani.net"
origination out of "gmx.at" {Osterreich}. And at worst BP is a
Foreigner : So BP's views and comments on American Politics simply do
not matter to Americans who are the Only Ones with the real Right to
Vote in American Elections.

imho - bp - is just another foreign troll or want to be lackey
international toad ~ RHF
.

State side usenet newservers are now rare as republican'ts were unable to
control their authors and post. Hopefully, warrant-less wiretaps and eves
dropping will become a thing of the past once the republican'ts are
removed from office and free speech in usenet groups is restored.

Until then, I must use foreign news servers because just like health care
and education, the united states has moved from the top of the list to
somewhere much lower thanks to republican'ts.

We Owe Respect to John McCain
 

We Owe Respect to John McCain
 

No matter what your politics, John McCain is an American hero.
Mcain was a P.O.W. Thats to bad. But it doesn't make him a hero.

Telamon wrote:

How about flying over enemy territory and getting shot down? Does that
make him a hero?

....not when he was being a "maverick" and disobeying orders from his
commanding officer. Maybe if he followed orders, he wouldn't have been
shot down.

We Owe Respect to John McCain
 

In article ,
Billy Burpelson wrote:

No matter what your politics, John McCain is an American hero.
Mcain was a P.O.W. Thats to bad. But it doesn't make him a hero.

Telamon wrote:

How about flying over enemy territory and getting shot down? Does that
make him a hero?

...not when he was being a "maverick" and disobeying orders from his
commanding officer. Maybe if he followed orders, he wouldn't have been
shot down.

Maybe if you were there guiding his decisions with your superior
hindsight he would not have been shot down.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

We Owe Respect to John McCain
 

On Nov 2, 3:13�pm, Billy Burpelson wrote:

...not when he was being a "maverick" and disobeying orders from his
commanding officer. Maybe if he followed orders, he wouldn't have been
shot down.

As the highest-ranking POW and the son and grandson of US admirals,
the Vietnamese offered to release McCain due to his extensive
injuries. He declined and was actually tortured more for denying the
North Vietnamese their propaganda coup. He has been quoted as saying
he couldn't leave the other men behind. To this day, he can't lift his
arms above his shoulders. I won't be voting for Senator McCain, but
I'm not really going to allow you to demean this man's heroic courage.

Shut up.

(OT) : The Views and Comments of Foreign Trolls and LackeyInternational Toads
 

On Nov 1, 6:55*pm, Bernard Peters wrote:
On Sat, 01 Nov 2008 19:31:06 -0700, RHF wrote:
On Nov 1, 5:28*pm, Telamon
wrote:
In article ,
*Bernard Peters wrote:

On Sat, 01 Nov 2008 07:17:11 -0700, Mike wrote:

I was particularly struck and humbled by the words of Charlie Cook
in today's National Journal:

You are trying to debate American Politics with someone who at best is
an American who chooses to use a Foreign Newsgroup Server "albasani.net"
origination out of "gmx.at" {Osterreich}. *And at worst BP is a
Foreigner : So BP's views and comments on American Politics simply do
not matter to Americans who are the Only Ones with the real Right to
Vote in American Elections.

imho - bp - is just another foreign troll or want to be lackey
international toad ~ RHF
*.

State side usenet newservers are now rare as republican'ts were unable to
control their authors and post. Hopefully, warrant-less wiretaps and eves
dropping will become a thing of the past once the republican'ts are
removed from office and free speech in usenet groups is restored.

Until then, I must use foreign news servers because just like health care
and education, the united states has moved from the top of the list to
somewhere much lower thanks to republican'ts.

BP - The Obamanistas© Will Soon Be On The March.

First They Took My Mouse

Then They Took My Keyboard

Next They Took My Monitor

Followed By My Computer {The Box}

and Last They Took My Power Strip

In The End I Was Powerless To Stop Them

From Taking You Too . . .

stomp, stomp, stomp,

Stomp. Stomp. Stomp.

STOMP ! STOMP ! STOMP !

'bp' watch-out they are heading your way ~ RHF

We Owe Respect to John McCain
 

On Nov 1, 9:17*am, Mike wrote:
I was particularly struck and humbled by the words of Charlie Cook in
today's National Journal:

"At this point, John McCain probably can't win without divine
intervention. Say what you will about the campaign he has waged and
the running mate he picked, but the collapse in credit markets and the
stock market may very well have ended his chances of victory,
notwithstanding anything he could have said or done differently. The
senator from Arizona is a good man, who served his country admirably.
And many would say that he deserved a better chance than he got."

At the beginning and throughout this race McCain got the same "chance"
the other candidates got. Whether he wins or not is dependent on what
he does with the opportunity.



No matter what your politics, John McCain is an American hero.

He is no more of a hero than the other candidates who are running for
president. Whether he was a POW 30 plus years ago has no bearing on
the qualities needed to run this country.


We owe him a great deal of respect.

Just as we owe all of the candidates our respect.

We are very lucky to have candidates of his calibre in America!

Yes, I agree we have had several high caliber candidates in this race,
including McCain and Obama.


Mike,
Louisville, KY

We Owe Respect to John McCain
 

Radioguy wrote:

No matter what your politics, John McCain is an American hero.

He is no more of a hero than the other candidates who are running for
president. Whether he was a POW 30 plus years ago has no bearing on
the qualities needed to run this country

A true hero is a soldier who refuses to follow unlawful orders, like he
swore to do. Fighting corporate wars of opportunity is not defending my
freedom in the least.

I do not recognize blind obedience as a positive trait. I see the
majority of our forces as tools of greed.

If war is to end, the fighters must quit allowing themselves to be
abused in this manner by "leaders" with questionable motives.

Resist!

We Owe Respect to John McCain
 

No matter what your politics, John McCain is an American hero.

Mcain was a P.O.W. Thats to bad. But it doesn't make him a hero.

Better McCane than the ChickenHawks who Lied us into another War;

- Akin to attacking Mexico after Pearl Harbor

- A war, Which has gone on longer than VietNam

- Which is costing us Ten Billion Dollars A Month


- Then again

McCane voted with Bush all the way on Invading Iraq

- Send him back to Arizona to lie in the sun