In alt.religion.christian Doorman wrote:

Apparently you don't know how bad off the unions have made it for GM.

Blaming the workers makes little sense. GM has made horrible management
decisions.

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On Nov 11, 10:26*pm, BDK wrote:
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In alt.religion.christian Doorman wrote:

Apparently you don't know how bad off the unions have made it for GM.

Blaming the workers makes little sense. *GM has made horrible management
decisions.

If GM was still selling cars like they would in the 60's, there would be
zero problems. A huge pension bill for retired employees, and shrinking
sales adds up to trouble.

People here in this area, heavily auto industry dependant, seem to be
totally clueless that when they buy foreign cars, they are sowing the
seeds of financial doom. A good paying job in manufacturing is now a
rare thing, unlike even 30 years ago, and young kids wonder why, while
driving Hondas, Toyotas, Kias, and Hyundai's.

Amazing.
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When the dilemma is competing with cheap products where wages are
lower, one answer is to build superior products. In cars, Japan has
figured this out as they target luxury markets. There's no reason the
USA can't do the same.

Nobody can tell me that American industry cannot manufacture stellar-
quality products, even with high-wage employees.
Look at Intel, or AMD, or IBM, cranking out exquisitely complex
devices requiring extreme precision and repeatability on a gigantic
scale, at commodity prices.
Making a reliable car that is manufactured intelligently, with robots
in the high-error parts of assembly, is about good engineering, not
national character.

If you want high-wage jobs, you need to manufacture stuff that's a
"cut above" the cheap imports, not an American version of them.

That means moving up-technology, into automated roads and cars, or
plug-in hybrids, or ways to make do with smaller engines without
losing too much performance to sell in the marketplace.

GM isn't doing this enough. They have to get cracking. The Volt is
certainly a step in the right direction though
I sure hope they understand that.