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On 2 Dec 2008 06:15:20 GMT, Top wrote:

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W. \"Popeye\" Frederick
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I suspect you'd get more bang for your buck by simply
mounting a single antenna in a better location (e.g. roof
mount) and paying attention to making the antenna's
grounding to the chassis/groundplane as direct and solid as
possible.


Cophase being omindirectional? You need to do some more
reading before you try to correct anything.




IF the cophased antennas are less than 1/4 wave apart, there is
virtually no change.
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On 2 Dec 2008 06:15:20 GMT, Top wrote:

(Dave Platt) wrote in
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, Douglas
W. \"Popeye\" Frederick
wrote:
I suspect you'd get more bang for your buck by simply
mounting a single antenna in a better location (e.g. roof
mount) and paying attention to making the antenna's
grounding to the chassis/groundplane as direct and solid
as possible.


Cophase being omindirectional? You need to do some more
reading before you try to correct anything.




IF the cophased antennas are less than 1/4 wave apart,
there is virtually no change.


I love it when you make an ass of yourself.

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Top wrote:
richard wrote:
IF the cophased antennas are less than 1/4 wave apart,
there is virtually no change.


I love it when you make an ass of yourself.


The ARRL Antenna Book says that with 1/8WL spacing,
one can achieve 4.1 dB gain with a high F/B ratio.
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In article ,
Cecil Moore wrote:

IF the cophased antennas are less than 1/4 wave apart,
there is virtually no change.


I love it when you make an ass of yourself.


The ARRL Antenna Book says that with 1/8WL spacing,
one can achieve 4.1 dB gain with a high F/B ratio.


Cite, please? For which antenna configuration and phasing?

I believe that the high (4.1 dB) figure you are quoting is for an
end-fire array, with the two antennas being fed 180 degrees out of
phase. Good gain, but somewhat tricky to feed and match due to the
low feedpoint impedance and the potential for high losses.

In a truck-antenna situation this would require placing the antennas
in a front/back arrangement, not side-to-side. I'm told that this is
rarely feasible.

The usual two-antenna truck arrangement I've seen is with antennas
side-to-side (one on each rear-view mirror), fed in phase. This is a
broadside array, not an end-fire array.

From all I can see (ARRL Antenna Book, Kraus, Terman), a two-radiator
in-phase broadside array doesn't start to achieve significant gain
(and pattern non-circularity) until you have at least 3/8 wavelength
of separation between the radiators. A 1/4-wave separation yields
only around 1.1 dB of gain, which (by my calculations) works out to
about a 15% increase in useful range in the preferred direction.

My book's at home, but my recollection is that you can't get 4.1 dB of
gain out of a two-radiator in-phase broadside array until you have
more than 1/2 wavelength of distance between the radiators.

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