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Dave[_18_] November 30th 08 06:08 PM

Pirate on 1610 kHz?
 
I'm hearing gospel music.

SoCal

34.4, -118.4

RHF November 30th 08 07:48 PM

Pirate on 1610 kHz?
 
On Nov 30, 10:08*am, Dave wrote:
I'm hearing gospel music.

SoCal

34.4, -118.4


Nothing in the USA on 1610 kHz according to the FCC.

KSMH 1620 AM (Sacramento, CA) is Catholic Radio

KGST - ESPN Deportes 1600 (Fresno, CA) is ESPN Sports in Spanish

KAHZ AM 1600 (Orange County, CA) Chinese Audience

KTAP 1600 AM (Santa Maria, CA) Spanish

So yeah it 'mite' be a Pirate Radio Station.

Dave[_18_] November 30th 08 08:03 PM

Pirate on 1610 kHz?
 
RHF wrote:
On Nov 30, 10:08 am, Dave wrote:
I'm hearing gospel music.

SoCal

34.4, -118.4


Nothing in the USA on 1610 kHz according to the FCC.

KSMH 1620 AM (Sacramento, CA) is Catholic Radio

KGST - ESPN Deportes 1600 (Fresno, CA) is ESPN Sports in Spanish

KAHZ AM 1600 (Orange County, CA) Chinese Audience

KTAP 1600 AM (Santa Maria, CA) Spanish

So yeah it 'mite' be a Pirate Radio Station.
.


Probably some hillbilly town bending the rules on their TIS. Can you
hear it?

Dave[_18_] December 1st 08 02:38 AM

Pirate on 1610 kHz?
 
wrote:
Searching the web Maybe KINO???? which does transmit on 1610 according
to a web search & their own webpage

If I remember right, 1610 was used to transmit local information at
one time & didn't allow public broadcast....

Did you hear this at night or during the day???


It was this morning. 1610 is Travelers' Information Services. There
are no regular stations authorized on that channel. I asked Roy if he
could pick it up as he is near Oakhurst, but the guy is so drugged-up
that never came to pass.

Brenda Ann December 1st 08 07:43 AM

Pirate on 1610 kHz?
 

"Dave" wrote in message
...
wrote:
Searching the web Maybe KINO???? which does transmit on 1610 according
to a web search & their own webpage

If I remember right, 1610 was used to transmit local information at
one time & didn't allow public broadcast....

Did you hear this at night or during the day???


It was this morning. 1610 is Travelers' Information Services. There are
no regular stations authorized on that channel. I asked Roy if he could
pick it up as he is near Oakhurst, but the guy is so drugged-up that never
came to pass.



CFOS AM 1610 kHz ND1 Daytime C C - COLLINGWOOD
ON CA --- 1.0 kW 105873
CFOS AM 1610 kHz ND1 Nighttime C C - COLLINGWOOD
ON CA --- 1.0 kW 105873
CJWI AM 1610 kHz ND1 Daytime C C - MONTREAL
QC CA --- 1.0 kW 136195
CJWI AM 1610 kHz ND1 Nighttime C C - MONTREAL
QC CA --- 1.0 kW 136195
NEW AM 1610 kHz ND1 Daytime C C - TORONTO
ON CA --- 1.0 kW 158668
NEW AM 1610 kHz ND1 Nighttime C C - TORONTO
ON CA --- 1.0 kW 158668
CHHA AM 1610 kHz ND1 Daytime C C - TORONTO
ON CA --- 1.0 kW 164929
CHHA AM 1610 kHz ND1 Nighttime C C - TORONTO
ON CA 5-- 1.0 kW 164929
CHHA AM 1610 kHz ND2 Daytime C C - TORONTO
ON CA --- 1.0 kW 164929
CHHA AM 1610 kHz ND2 Nighttime C C - TORONTO
ON CA 4-- 1.0 kW 164929
CHHA AM 1610 kHz ND Daytime C C - TORONTO
ON CA --- 10.0 kW 164929
CHHA AM 1610 kHz ND Nighttime C C - TORONTO
ON CA 7-- 1.0 kW 164929
CJWI AM 1610 kHz ND Daytime C C - MONTREAL
QC CA --- 1.0 kW 136195
CJWI AM 1610 kHz ND Nighttime C C - MONTREAL
QC CA 9-- 1.0 kW 136195




Brenda Ann December 1st 08 07:45 AM

Pirate on 1610 kHz?
 

"Brenda Ann" wrote in message
...
CFOS AM 1610 kHz ND1 Daytime C C - COLLINGWOOD ON
--- 1.0 kW 105873
CFOS AM 1610 kHz ND1 Nighttime C C - COLLINGWOOD ON
--- 1.0 kW 105873
CJWI AM 1610 kHz ND1 Daytime C C - MONTREAL QC
--- 1.0 kW 136195
CJWI AM 1610 kHz ND1 Nighttime C C - MONTREAL QC
--- 1.0 kW 136195
NEW AM 1610 kHz ND1 Daytime C C - TORONTO ON
--- 1.0 kW 158668
NEW AM 1610 kHz ND1 Nighttime C C - TORONTO ON
--- 1.0 kW 158668
CHHA AM 1610 kHz ND1 Daytime C C - TORONTO ON
--- 1.0 kW 164929
CHHA AM 1610 kHz ND1 Nighttime C C - TORONTO ON CA
5-- 1.0 kW 164929
CHHA AM 1610 kHz ND2 Daytime C C - TORONTO ON
--- 1.0 kW 164929
CHHA AM 1610 kHz ND2 Nighttime C C - TORONTO ON CA
4-- 1.0 kW 164929
CHHA AM 1610 kHz ND Daytime C C - TORONTO ON
--- 10.0 kW 164929
CHHA AM 1610 kHz ND Nighttime C C - TORONTO ON CA
7-- 1.0 kW 164929
CJWI AM 1610 kHz ND Daytime C C - MONTREAL QC
--- 1.0 kW 136195
CJWI AM 1610 kHz ND Nighttime C C - MONTREAL QC CA
9-- 1.0 kW 136195


Forgot to add... for those in the eastern half of the US, these should be
fairly easy DX catches, since TIS stations are only allowed, IIRC, 50 watts,
and don't have squat for antennas..




Dave[_18_] December 1st 08 02:07 PM

Pirate on 1610 kHz?
 
Brenda Ann wrote:
"Brenda Ann" wrote in message
...
CFOS AM 1610 kHz ND1 Daytime C C - COLLINGWOOD ON
--- 1.0 kW 105873
CFOS AM 1610 kHz ND1 Nighttime C C - COLLINGWOOD ON
--- 1.0 kW 105873
CJWI AM 1610 kHz ND1 Daytime C C - MONTREAL QC
--- 1.0 kW 136195
CJWI AM 1610 kHz ND1 Nighttime C C - MONTREAL QC
--- 1.0 kW 136195
NEW AM 1610 kHz ND1 Daytime C C - TORONTO ON
--- 1.0 kW 158668
NEW AM 1610 kHz ND1 Nighttime C C - TORONTO ON
--- 1.0 kW 158668
CHHA AM 1610 kHz ND1 Daytime C C - TORONTO ON
--- 1.0 kW 164929
CHHA AM 1610 kHz ND1 Nighttime C C - TORONTO ON CA
5-- 1.0 kW 164929
CHHA AM 1610 kHz ND2 Daytime C C - TORONTO ON
--- 1.0 kW 164929
CHHA AM 1610 kHz ND2 Nighttime C C - TORONTO ON CA
4-- 1.0 kW 164929
CHHA AM 1610 kHz ND Daytime C C - TORONTO ON
--- 10.0 kW 164929
CHHA AM 1610 kHz ND Nighttime C C - TORONTO ON CA
7-- 1.0 kW 164929
CJWI AM 1610 kHz ND Daytime C C - MONTREAL QC
--- 1.0 kW 136195
CJWI AM 1610 kHz ND Nighttime C C - MONTREAL QC CA
9-- 1.0 kW 136195


Forgot to add... for those in the eastern half of the US, these should be
fairly easy DX catches, since TIS stations are only allowed, IIRC, 50 watts,
and don't have squat for antennas..



I'm in Southern California. No Canadian station on 1610 is going to
make it into L. A. at 9:30 in the morning.

Bob Campbell December 1st 08 03:01 PM

Pirate on 1610 kHz?
 
"Dave" wrote in message
...
I'm in Southern California. No Canadian station on 1610 is going to make
it into L. A. at 9:30 in the morning.



You are probably hearing a "neighborhood" station, or someone "house
broadcasting" nearby. 1610 is a popular frequency because there are no
commercial stations in the U.S. that use it.

I "house broadcast" with a couple of AM transmitters here. One is on 630,
the other is on 800. I prefer the low end of the band because I get a
better signal, I have old 1930s and 1940s radios that don't tune above 1500,
and there are no clear frequencies up that high around here.

I also have an FM transmitter going on 107.9. This can be heard for
several blocks in any direction. The 800 AM can be heard a couple of
houses away, the 630 can barely be heard outside my own house.

None are using sophisticated antennas, just wires strung on up on the wall.
With real, outside antennas I could be covering a half mile easily.

Get in your car and drive around your neighborhood, you will probably find
the location of your station.


Brenda Ann December 1st 08 10:30 PM

Pirate on 1610 kHz?
 

"Dave" wrote in message
...

I'm in Southern California. No Canadian station on 1610 is going to make
it into L. A. at 9:30 in the morning.


You're probably right.. but not necessarily. During winter (especially)
AMBCB stations can be heard at very great distances, even in the daytime.

Two examples of such:

580 KFXD Boise/Nampa, ID heard all day, all winter at Astoria, OR, for most
of the winter.
620 KGW Portland, OR heard for several hours during a snowstorm in Lewiston,
ID
610 KONA Pasco/Kennewick/Richland, WA heard most any time in the west hills
of Portland, OR (with 5000W KGW on adjacent 620!)

Doesn't prove anything either way, just fun facts.

I had never seen TV skip until I was 19.. when I was watching local channel
2 (KATU) in Portland and over the span of a couple minutes I ended up
watching the news on CKCK channel 2 in Regina, SK, Canada. RF is black
magic.. :)




Brenda Ann December 1st 08 10:35 PM

Pirate on 1610 kHz?
 


Two examples of such:

580 KFXD Boise/Nampa, ID heard all day, all winter at Astoria, OR, for
most of the winter.
620 KGW Portland, OR heard for several hours during a snowstorm in
Lewiston, ID
610 KONA Pasco/Kennewick/Richland, WA heard most any time in the west
hills of Portland, OR (with 5000W KGW on adjacent 620!)


The third example was added as an afterthought.. since the station is only
about 200 miles or so distant..




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