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Pretty large selection of radios at our PX (and those in Seoul, Osan).


Well that is not the U.S., is it? I was talking about the U.S. Lots
of countries where radio is still viable.


Actually, it is... since the only radio any GI listens to is Armed Forces
Network. Local radio and television are non-starters here (at least the
local TV is NTSC-M, American channelization, so if we wanted to we COULD
watch it!!) There's no OTA HD, no QRM producing IBOC..


Right, but that is a skewed sample. You have Americans far from home
looking to buy something on which they can hear music/news from home. So
they want a radio. If they could hear music/news from home with a ham
sandwich, then ham sandwiches would be selling in the PX.

So it is a *very* skewed sample.

Walk into any dept store/Walmart/Best Buy/whatever in the U.S. How many
radios are for sale these days? How many were for sale 20 years ago? 40?
60? There is a definite downward trend.

Also, you never explained what "i-shlock" was.

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"Bob Campbell" wrote:

"Brenda Ann" wrote in message
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"Bob Campbell" wrote in message
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"Brenda Ann" wrote in message
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Pretty large selection of radios at our PX (and those in Seoul, Osan).

Well that is not the U.S., is it? I was talking about the U.S. Lots
of countries where radio is still viable.


Actually, it is... since the only radio any GI listens to is Armed Forces
Network. Local radio and television are non-starters here (at least the
local TV is NTSC-M, American channelization, so if we wanted to we COULD
watch it!!) There's no OTA HD, no QRM producing IBOC..


Right, but that is a skewed sample. You have Americans far from home
looking to buy something on which they can hear music/news from home. So
they want a radio. If they could hear music/news from home with a ham
sandwich, then ham sandwiches would be selling in the PX.

So it is a *very* skewed sample.

Walk into any dept store/Walmart/Best Buy/whatever in the U.S. How many
radios are for sale these days? How many were for sale 20 years ago? 40?
60? There is a definite downward trend.

Also, you never explained what "i-shlock" was.


I don't where you are coming on this. The last time a walked into best
buy there was an isle full of radios. Portables, boom boxes, table
radios all made in SE Asia and mostly China.

Radio Shack 23 on this page
http://www.radioshack.com/family/index.jsp?categoryId=2032073&cp=203205

Best Buy 34 on this page
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....LLUYPTKC4D3DVA
FI?_dyncharset=ISO-8859-1&id=pcat17071&type=page&ks=960&st=clock+radios& s
c=Global&cp=1&sp=&qp=crootcategoryid%23%23-1%23%23-1%7E%7Eq636c6f636b2072
6164696f73%7E%7Encabcat0200000%23%232%23%231e&list =y&usc=All+Categories&n
rp=35&iht=n

My favorite Universal 47 AM/FM/SW portables
http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/portable.html

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Ventura, California
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Also, you never explained what "i-shlock" was.


i-Shlock = Steve Jobs' overpriced, underpowered, under-featured (but
inexplicably popular... no accounting for people's thought processes) mp3
players (which can be beaten by a less expensive product with much more
storage capacity and versatility)


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On Dec 24, 1:57 pm, Telamon
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I don't where you are coming on this. The last time a walked into best
buy there was an isle full of radios. Portables, boom boxes, table
radios all made in SE Asia and mostly China.


No HD though.

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Best Buy has 3 units. Two shelf units and one component all made by
Insignia. I never heard of this brand before.


Insignia is to Best Buy what Kenmore is to Sears... the house label. I have
several of their smaller HDTVs and they are really superior to the other
lower-end brands.

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David Eduardo wrote:

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Best Buy has 3 units. Two shelf units and one component all made by
Insignia. I never heard of this brand before.



Insignia is to Best Buy what Kenmore is to Sears... the house label. I
have several of their smaller HDTVs and they are really superior to the
other lower-end brands.


Insignia is made by 'LG' for Best Buy. LG makes better than average
quality LCD flatscreen HDTV's. Not high end but better than many.
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On Dec 27, 3:02*pm, "Brenda Ann" wrote:
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David Eduardo wrote:


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Best Buy has 3 units. Two shelf units and one component all made by
Insignia. I never heard of this brand before.


Insignia is to Best Buy what Kenmore is to Sears... the house label. I
have several of their smaller HDTVs and they are really superior to the
other lower-end brands.


Insignia is made by 'LG' for Best Buy. LG makes better than average
quality LCD flatscreen HDTV's. Not high end but better than many.


- - Used to be called "Zenith".

- To be more precise, the US consumer electronics company, Zenith, was
- purchased by Goldstar of Korea (now Lucky Goldstar, LG for short).
Not sure
- what's happened to the badge since, I don't see any Zenith badged
products
- anymore.

Zenith - The Authority On HDTV ! ;-)
http://www.zenith.com/
Note - Zenith-brand products are sold and
serviced by LG Electronics USA, Inc.
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RHF wrote:
For One and All,

Q # 1 - Shortwave Radio RFI Noise ?

Which type of TV Display produces the least RFI Noise
that can be heard on a Shortwave Radio 3~30 MHz :
[ ] LCD TV Displays 20~42 Inches
[ ] Plasma TV Displays 32 Inches plus


[X] DLP
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On Dec 27, 4:16*pm, Dave wrote:
RHF wrote:
For One and All,


Q # 1 - Shortwave Radio RFI Noise ?


Which type of TV Display produces the least RFI Noise
that can be heard on a Shortwave Radio 3~30 MHz :
[ ] LCD TV Displays 20~42 Inches
[ ] Plasma TV Displays 32 Inches plus


* *[X] DLP


Digital Light Processing (DLP) and How It Works
http://www.dlptvreview.com/dlptv/1background.html
http://www.dlptvreview.com/dlptv/2dlpworking.html

DLP TV -v- LCD TV -by- Phil Conner
http://www.dlptvreview.com/dlptv/dlptelevision.html

DLP TV -v- Plasma TV -by- Phil Conner
http://www.dlptvreview.com/dlptv/plasmatelevision.html

LCD TV -v- Plasma TV -by- Phil Connor
http://www.lcdtvbuyingguide.com/lcdtv-plasmavslcd.shtml

Dave,

This is going to be an On the Wall in the Kitchen 32"
HDTV; that will be on the other end of the House from
the Radio Shack. -so- DLP is not the answer.

1 - All I am really interested in is there good or bad
points to LCD and/or Plasma HDTV Technology -wrt-
RFI in the range of 3~30 MHz and the ability to Listen
to my Shortwave Radios.

Anyone have any specific horror stories about LCD TVs
or Plasma TVs trashing their ability to Listen to the HF
Bands with their Shortwave Radios.

2 - We are at 4000 Feet here in Twain Harte, CA
so do Plasma TVs fail early at higher elevations.
-or- is that just a rumor ?
-or- has that problem been fixed ?

informed opinions please ~ RHF
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