On Dec 30, 1:36*am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
wrote in message

...

Interesting to note that iBiquity is just outside of Washington DC (in
Columbia, MD). *One can imagine CEO Struble and COO Jury pulling their
hair out.

DC has the worst AMs, collectively, of any major US market. Not a one of
them covers the entire market with a viable signal, and this is in part why
that the whole band only has 6% of the radio listening... less than 3% under
age 50. AM HD is useless on bad signals in large metros.

me thinks, if these stations generated ratings or revenues they'd
still be on.
Either way it's really bad..so I wonder what market is next?

On Dec 30, 5:03*pm, "Bob Campbell" wrote:
"David Eduardo" wrote in message

...

Obviously, the people who wish to continue in denial or living in a dream
world of self-invented fiction and fantasy will not be convinced by facts.
I would avoid those people myself.

Indeed. *Since David is the *only* regular poster here who actually works in
radio, I believe his postings and generally ignore everyone else's. *He has
access to actual facts, not just anecdotes.

- Also, I find it fascinating that so many people here
- seem to be cheering the demise of HD. *
- As HD goes, so goes radio.
- The fact that HD appears to be failing only reinforces
- the idea that there is no interest in radio at all.
- No one cares about HD because no one listens to
- commercial radio any more.
-
- Be careful what you wish for.

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"Brenda Ann" wrote in message
...
The average person is simply happy with what they have, and uninterested
in spending the money for a so called upgrade.

The average person IS happy - but he is NOT listening to radio these days.
One more generation of MP3 player listeners who grow up not listening to
radio *at all* will be the end of radio.

Personal anecdote. I have a 20 year old daughter in college. She is home
for Christmas vacation. She is *very* into her digital music collection.
She has *no* vinyl records/cassette tapes, very few CDs and never listens to
the radio, but she has tons of MP3s. She noticed I have 2 laptops and 2
"other things" on top of the entertainment center/bookshelf in the upstairs
family room. She asked "why do you have 2 laptops up there?" My answer
was that these were 2 of my AM radio stations - 800 AM and 630 AM. She
asked "What do you mean 800 AM? What is that?" I said "You know, AM
radio." I got a blank stare from her.

Nuff said.

Frankly, I hope that AM radio dies sooner rather than later. It will free
up more frequencies for me to "housecast" internet radio/MP3 players on. I
currently have about 10 AM transmitters, but I am only using 3 of them right
now due to lack of frequencies that don't interfere with each other.

On Dec 29, 12:06*pm, PocketRadio wrote:
"They’re turning off HD in Washington, DC"

"Well, this time it’s not an anomaly or a digital exciter glitch—at
least not that we can see. For weeks now the Washington, DC market has
been turning off its HD Radio signals en masse. There is no longer any
station in the market on AM broadcasting in HD."

http://www.rbr.com/radio/12018.html

"CC Radio’s Format Lab gone?"
November 2008

"Really, the next round of budget cuts--out of necessity--is likely
going to be HD Radio equipment and licensing renewals. It has cost
broadcasters money that so far has not generated ROI. This CC Radio
news above, along with the rumors that Citadel has told Engineering
not to fix any broken HD transmitters on AM, may be the tip of the
iceberg."

http://www.rbr.com/radio/11252.html

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Bob Campbell wrote:

"Brenda Ann" wrote in message
...
The average person is simply happy with what they have, and uninterested
in spending the money for a so called upgrade.

The average person IS happy - but he is NOT listening to radio these days.
One more generation of MP3 player listeners who grow up not listening to
radio *at all* will be the end of radio.

Personal anecdote. I have a 20 year old daughter in college. She is home
for Christmas vacation. She is *very* into her digital music collection.
She has *no* vinyl records/cassette tapes, very few CDs and never listens to
the radio, but she has tons of MP3s. She noticed I have 2 laptops and 2
"other things" on top of the entertainment center/bookshelf in the upstairs
family room. She asked "why do you have 2 laptops up there?" My answer
was that these were 2 of my AM radio stations - 800 AM and 630 AM. She
asked "What do you mean 800 AM? What is that?" I said "You know, AM
radio." I got a blank stare from her.

Nuff said.

Frankly, I hope that AM radio dies sooner rather than later. It will free
up more frequencies for me to "housecast" internet radio/MP3 players on. I
currently have about 10 AM transmitters, but I am only using 3 of them right
now due to lack of frequencies that don't interfere with each other.

Somehow, someway, that sounds pretty "kooky".

Bob Campbell wrote:
"David Eduardo" wrote in message
...
Obviously, the people who wish to continue in denial or living in a
dream world of self-invented fiction and fantasy will not be convinced
by facts. I would avoid those people myself.

Indeed. Since David is the *only* regular poster here who actually
works in radio, I believe his postings and generally ignore everyone
else's. He has access to actual facts, not just anecdotes.

Also, I find it fascinating that so many people here seem to be cheering
the demise of HD. As HD goes, so goes radio. The fact that HD
appears to be failing only reinforces the idea that there is no interest
in radio at all. No one cares about HD because no one listens to
commercial radio any more.

Be careful what you wish for.


No one listens because the content sucks. If they want listeners they
need to earn them.

HD is a waste of spectrum. It is a polished turd. It is lipstick on a
hockey mom.

msg wrote:
Bob Campbell wrote:

snip
Also, I find it fascinating that so many people here seem to be
cheering the demise of HD. As HD goes, so goes radio. The fact
that HD appears to be failing only reinforces the idea that there is
no interest in radio at all. No one cares about HD because no one
listens to commercial radio any more.

I find this proposition presented in this NG all too often and find it
arrogant and disgusting. Living in a smaller market, filled with folks
decidedly not in the coveted demographic, we for the most part support,
and appreciate our local AM and non-commercial radio stations and tolerate
the ever-changing FM cacophony; there is no crisis of profitability or
viability in our AM market and if it were threatened you can be sure of
a loud protest in halls of government from our citizens.

Michael

Thank-you. Just because giant public companies can't run radio at a
profit, there's no reason to write off the medium. Ma and Pa operations
can make money, if they provide a service.

David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...

The DC AMs for the most part have little or zero ratings, with only 5
showing up in the Summer Arbitron book out of 26 total ams in the
market. Of
the 5 that showed, only one got over a 1 share in 12+, and none got
over a 2
share in 25-54, the "sales demo." 20 FMs got over a 1 share, though.

News WTOP-FM alone had a 12+ share greater than the share of all the
DC FMs.

Take a hike, 'Eduardo', as your fluff and fakery aren't playing well
here in
RRS, just as it doesn't in Peoria.

All data came from Arbitron. Anyone subscribed to the market can see the
same thing.

Arbitron is full of ****. Who cares if you have 50,000 listeners, if
they're all brain dead? 5,000 of the right kind of people are way more
salable.

Bob Campbell wrote:
"David Eduardo" wrote in message
...
Obviously, the people who wish to continue in denial or living in a
dream world of self-invented fiction and fantasy will not be convinced
by facts. I would avoid those people myself.

Indeed. Since David is the *only* regular poster here who actually
works in radio, I believe his postings and generally ignore everyone
else's. He has access to actual facts, not just anecdotes.

'Dwardo works in COMMERCIAL radio and lives in a bubble. Hell, he
admits to never having listened to radio stations with huge numbers,
apparently because they challenge his "lowest common denominator"
philosophy of broadcasting.

On Dec 30, 7:15*pm, "Bob Campbell" wrote:
"Brenda Ann" wrote in message

...

The average person is simply happy with what they have, and uninterested
in spending the money for a so called upgrade.

The average person IS happy - but he is NOT listening to radio these days..
One more generation of MP3 player listeners who grow up not listening to
radio *at all* will be the end of radio.

Personal anecdote. * I have a 20 year old daughter in college. *She is home
for Christmas vacation. * She is *very* into her digital music collection.
She has *no* vinyl records/cassette tapes, very few CDs and never listens to
the radio, but she has tons of MP3s. * She noticed I have 2 laptops and 2
"other things" on top of the entertainment center/bookshelf in the upstairs
family room. * She asked "why do you have 2 laptops up there?" * My answer
was that these were 2 of my AM radio stations - 800 AM and 630 AM. * She
asked "What do you mean 800 AM? *What is that?" *I said "You know, AM
radio." * I got a blank stare from her.

Nuff said.

Frankly, I hope that AM radio dies sooner rather than later. * It will free
up more frequencies for me to "housecast" internet radio/MP3 players on. * I
currently have about 10 AM transmitters, but I am only using 3 of them right
now due to lack of frequencies that don't interfere with each other.

Radio Listening Transformed By TV and Changed By The Internet
* The TV allows the Radio Listener to Listen and See;
and Transforming Them from simply Listeners to Viewers
and Listeners and becoming Multi-Media Consumers.
* The Internet allows the Radio Listener a Greater Variety
of "Other" Audio Consumer 'Options' plus Visual Video
Options Too; and changed the way they "Think" about
At-Home Media and Personalized Entertainment.
eChat, eZines, eGroups, iPods, iMusic, iPhones, Blogs...

Daily and Nightly Radio Listening was the Primary At-Home
News and Entertainment Source and "Choice" from the 1920
through the 1950s.

By the 1960s TV had Transformer and replaced Radio as
the Primary At-Home News and Entertainment Source and
"Choice".

Add in More TV Channels and Cable TV and Satellite TV
Options with up to a Hundred or more Choices in the 1970s
and 1980s expanded the At-Home Entertainment Options;
often with Radio being a non-consideration.

Then the 1990s brought in the World Wide Web and the
Internet with a whole new level of At-Home Entertainment
Options; with Radio simply being forgotten.

Since the 1990s each new Generation Naturally
{Automatically} "Thinks" of Turning-On the Morning
News, Sports, Weather, and Traffic on the TV or
Checking their FAV Internet Web-Portal for the same
-but Not Radio.

It is only during the Morning Commute in their Cars
and Trucks that they can not Watch TV while Driving :
So AM&FM Radio becomes one 'option' in their minds;
and then mainly for the Traffic and Weather -but- They
have other Audio Entertainment Music 'options' too like
CDs, MP3s and iPods.

They may listen to Radio at work -but- Again they have
other Audio Entertainment Music 'options' too like CDs,
MP3s and iPods; plus their FAV Internet Web-Portal for
the same.

The Evening Commute is much like the Morning Commute
and listening to the Radio is just one option.

Since the 1970s each new Generation Naturally
{Automatically} "Thinks" of Turning-On the Evening
News on the TV not Radio.

Since the 1970s each new Generation Naturally
{Automatically} "Thinks" of Late Night Viewing of
the TV not listening to the Radio.

The new Generations have Big TV and Entertainment
Centers in their Living {Family} Rooms and Radio is
usually a forgotten element of it all.

The new Generations have a TV in every Bedroom and
an Alarm Clock with a built-in Radio which usually is
used for the Alarm and Clock features while the Radio
is a forgotten element.

The new Generations have a TV in their Kitchens; but
you may not find a Radio there anymore.

To the new Generations TV and now the Internet are
"Where-It's At" while Radio is so 'passe'.

FWIW - Each of 'you' Older-Generation Radio Listeners
are Reading this Message on the Internet
-and- That Ain't Radio Either.
-conclusion- YES WE HAVE CHANGED TOO ~ RHF