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HD Radio shutdown in Wash, D.C! LMFAO!
"They’re turning off HD in Washington, DC"
"Well, this time it’s not an anomaly or a digital exciter glitch—at least not that we can see. For weeks now the Washington, DC market has been turning off its HD Radio signals en masse. There is no longer any station in the market on AM broadcasting in HD." http://www.rbr.com/radio/12018.html "CC Radio’s Format Lab gone?" November 2008 "Really, the next round of budget cuts--out of necessity--is likely going to be HD Radio equipment and licensing renewals. It has cost broadcasters money that so far has not generated ROI. This CC Radio news above, along with the rumors that Citadel has told Engineering not to fix any broken HD transmitters on AM, may be the tip of the iceberg." http://www.rbr.com/radio/11252.html Finally! It's over! LMFAO! SWEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet! |
HD Radio shutdown in Wash, D.C! LMFAO!
On Dec 29, 3:06*pm, PocketRadio wrote:
"They’re turning off HD in Washington, DC" "Well, this time it’s not an anomaly or a digital exciter glitch—at least not that we can see. For weeks now the Washington, DC market has been turning off its HD Radio signals en masse. There is no longer any station in the market on AM broadcasting in HD." http://www.rbr.com/radio/12018.html "CC Radio’s Format Lab gone?" November 2008 "Really, the next round of budget cuts--out of necessity--is likely going to be HD Radio equipment and licensing renewals. It has cost broadcasters money that so far has not generated ROI. This CC Radio news above, along with the rumors that Citadel has told Engineering not to fix any broken HD transmitters on AM, may be the tip of the iceberg." http://www.rbr.com/radio/11252.html Finally! It's over! LMFAO! SWEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet! Hey - anyone notice a lack AM hash tonight? |
HD Radio shutdown in Wash, D.C! LMFAO!
On Dec 29, 10:41 pm, PocketRadio wrote:
On Dec 29, 3:06 pm, PocketRadio wrote: "They’re turning off HD in Washington, DC" "Well, this time it’s not an anomaly or a digital exciter glitch—at least not that we can see. For weeks now the Washington, DC market has been turning off its HD Radio signals en masse. There is no longer any station in the market on AM broadcasting in HD." http://www.rbr.com/radio/12018.html "CC Radio’s Format Lab gone?" November 2008 "Really, the next round of budget cuts--out of necessity--is likely going to be HD Radio equipment and licensing renewals. It has cost broadcasters money that so far has not generated ROI. This CC Radio news above, along with the rumors that Citadel has told Engineering not to fix any broken HD transmitters on AM, may be the tip of the iceberg." http://www.rbr.com/radio/11252.html Finally! It's over! LMFAO! SWEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet! Hey - anyone notice a lack AM hash tonight? This is GREAT news. So long and good riddance hd radio! I can't wait to see pictures of hd radio equipment piled up in the backroom (next to the broken copiers and broken coffee machines) of broadcast stations. |
HD Radio shutdown in Wash, D.C! LMFAO!
On Dec 30, 12:21 am, wrote:
On Dec 29, 10:41 pm, PocketRadio wrote: On Dec 29, 3:06 pm, PocketRadio wrote: "They’re turning off HD in Washington, DC" "Well, this time it’s not an anomaly or a digital exciter glitch—at least not that we can see. For weeks now the Washington, DC market has been turning off its HD Radio signals en masse. There is no longer any station in the market on AM broadcasting in HD." http://www.rbr.com/radio/12018.html "CC Radio’s Format Lab gone?" November 2008 "Really, the next round of budget cuts--out of necessity--is likely going to be HD Radio equipment and licensing renewals. It has cost broadcasters money that so far has not generated ROI. This CC Radio news above, along with the rumors that Citadel has told Engineering not to fix any broken HD transmitters on AM, may be the tip of the iceberg." http://www.rbr.com/radio/11252.html Finally! It's over! LMFAO! SWEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet! Hey - anyone notice a lack AM hash tonight? This is GREAT news. So long and good riddance hd radio! I can't wait to see pictures of hd radio equipment piled up in the backroom (next to the broken copiers and broken coffee machines) of broadcast stations. Interesting to note that iBiquity is just outside of Washington DC (in Columbia, MD). One can imagine CEO Struble and COO Jury pulling their hair out. Now could someone please tell me how hd radio is going to save the radio broadcast world when they don't even want to buy HD Radio equipment and renew their licenses? |
HD Radio shutdown in Wash, D.C! LMFAO!
wrote in message ... Interesting to note that iBiquity is just outside of Washington DC (in Columbia, MD). One can imagine CEO Struble and COO Jury pulling their hair out. DC has the worst AMs, collectively, of any major US market. Not a one of them covers the entire market with a viable signal, and this is in part why that the whole band only has 6% of the radio listening... less than 3% under age 50. AM HD is useless on bad signals in large metros. |
HD Radio shutdown in Wash, D.C! LMFAO!
In article
, PocketRadio wrote: On Dec 29, 3:06*pm, PocketRadio wrote: "They¹re turning off HD in Washington, DC" "Well, this time it¹s not an anomaly or a digital exciter glitch‹at least not that we can see. For weeks now the Washington, DC market has been turning off its HD Radio signals en masse. There is no longer any station in the market on AM broadcasting in HD." http://www.rbr.com/radio/12018.html "CC Radio¹s Format Lab gone?" November 2008 "Really, the next round of budget cuts--out of necessity--is likely going to be HD Radio equipment and licensing renewals. It has cost broadcasters money that so far has not generated ROI. This CC Radio news above, along with the rumors that Citadel has told Engineering not to fix any broken HD transmitters on AM, may be the tip of the iceberg." http://www.rbr.com/radio/11252.html Finally! It's over! LMFAO! SWEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet! Hey - anyone notice a lack AM hash tonight? I have the same stations spewing IBOC hash tonight, so no. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
HD Radio shutdown in Wash, D.C! LMFAO!
On Dec 30, 12:30*am, wrote:
On Dec 30, 12:21 am, wrote: On Dec 29, 10:41 pm, PocketRadio wrote: On Dec 29, 3:06 pm, PocketRadio wrote: "They’re turning off HD in Washington, DC" "Well, this time it’s not an anomaly or a digital exciter glitch—at least not that we can see. For weeks now the Washington, DC market has been turning off its HD Radio signals en masse. There is no longer any station in the market on AM broadcasting in HD." http://www.rbr.com/radio/12018.html "CC Radio’s Format Lab gone?" November 2008 "Really, the next round of budget cuts--out of necessity--is likely going to be HD Radio equipment and licensing renewals. It has cost broadcasters money that so far has not generated ROI. This CC Radio news above, along with the rumors that Citadel has told Engineering not to fix any broken HD transmitters on AM, may be the tip of the iceberg." http://www.rbr.com/radio/11252.html Finally! It's over! LMFAO! SWEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet! Hey - anyone notice a lack AM hash tonight? This is GREAT news. *So long and good riddance hd radio! *I can't wait to see pictures of hd radio equipment piled up in the backroom (next to the broken copiers and broken coffee machines) of broadcast stations. Interesting to note that iBiquity is just outside of Washington DC (in Columbia, MD). *One can imagine CEO Struble and COO Jury pulling their hair out. Now could someone please tell me how hd radio is going to save the radio broadcast world when they don't even want to buy HD Radio equipment and renew their licenses?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - "One can imagine CEO Struble and COO Jury pulling their hair out.' Jury already has - LMFAO! |
HD Radio shutdown in Wash, D.C! LMFAO!
On Dec 30, 1:36�am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
wrote in message ... Interesting to note that iBiquity is just outside of Washington DC (in Columbia, MD). �One can imagine CEO Struble and COO Jury pulling their hair out. DC has the worst AMs, collectively, of any major US market. Not a one of them covers the entire market with a viable signal, and this is in part why that the whole band only has 6% of the radio listening... less than 3% under age 50. AM HD is useless on bad signals in large metros. If you read the article, FM-HDs have shut down, too! "The FM list now includes 106.7 WJFK-FM (CBS Radio); 102.3 WWMJ-FM (Radio One); 104.1 WPRS-FM (Radio One) and 107.7 WWWT-FM (Bonneville)." Nice try, Eduardo! |
HD Radio shutdown in Wash, D.C! LMFAO!
On Dec 30, 1:36 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
wrote in message ... Interesting to note that iBiquity is just outside of Washington DC (in Columbia, MD). One can imagine CEO Struble and COO Jury pulling their hair out. DC has the worst AMs, collectively, of any major US market. Not a one of them covers the entire market with a viable signal, and this is in part why that the whole band only has 6% of the radio listening... less than 3% under age 50. AM HD is useless on bad signals in large metros. Eduardo - Is there ANYTHING you don't know? Is there ANYTHING you can't justify away? Seriously, you're credibility is questionable. Not because you're necessarily wrong but because you come across as someone most people learn to avoid. I suspect people around you avoid you for this very reason. Think about it. |
HD Radio shutdown in Wash, D.C! LMFAO!
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HD Radio shutdown in Wash, D.C! LMFAO!
On Dec 30, 1:36*am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
wrote in message ... Interesting to note that iBiquity is just outside of Washington DC (in Columbia, MD). *One can imagine CEO Struble and COO Jury pulling their hair out. DC has the worst AMs, collectively, of any major US market. Not a one of them covers the entire market with a viable signal, and this is in part why that the whole band only has 6% of the radio listening... less than 3% under age 50. AM HD is useless on bad signals in large metros. me thinks, if these stations generated ratings or revenues they'd still be on. Either way it's really bad..so I wonder what market is next? |
IBOC : The Failure of HD-Radio : Signifies The Death of Radio
On Dec 30, 5:03*pm, "Bob Campbell" wrote:
"David Eduardo" wrote in message ... Obviously, the people who wish to continue in denial or living in a dream world of self-invented fiction and fantasy will not be convinced by facts. I would avoid those people myself. Indeed. *Since David is the *only* regular poster here who actually works in radio, I believe his postings and generally ignore everyone else's. *He has access to actual facts, not just anecdotes. - Also, I find it fascinating that so many people here - seem to be cheering the demise of HD. * - As HD goes, so goes radio. - The fact that HD appears to be failing only reinforces - the idea that there is no interest in radio at all. - No one cares about HD because no one listens to - commercial radio any more. - - Be careful what you wish for. BC - Warning : relevation, Relevation. RELEVATION ! IBOC : The Failure of HD-Radio : Signifies The Death of Radio [.] radio rip - i-pod 'u' not ~ RHF |
HD Radio shutdown in Wash, D.C! LMFAO!
"Brenda Ann" wrote in message
... The average person is simply happy with what they have, and uninterested in spending the money for a so called upgrade. The average person IS happy - but he is NOT listening to radio these days. One more generation of MP3 player listeners who grow up not listening to radio *at all* will be the end of radio. Personal anecdote. I have a 20 year old daughter in college. She is home for Christmas vacation. She is *very* into her digital music collection. She has *no* vinyl records/cassette tapes, very few CDs and never listens to the radio, but she has tons of MP3s. She noticed I have 2 laptops and 2 "other things" on top of the entertainment center/bookshelf in the upstairs family room. She asked "why do you have 2 laptops up there?" My answer was that these were 2 of my AM radio stations - 800 AM and 630 AM. She asked "What do you mean 800 AM? What is that?" I said "You know, AM radio." I got a blank stare from her. Nuff said. Frankly, I hope that AM radio dies sooner rather than later. It will free up more frequencies for me to "housecast" internet radio/MP3 players on. I currently have about 10 AM transmitters, but I am only using 3 of them right now due to lack of frequencies that don't interfere with each other. |
OT) : PONG - PocketRadio You Put The "F" in LM_AO !
On Dec 29, 12:06*pm, PocketRadio wrote:
"They’re turning off HD in Washington, DC" "Well, this time it’s not an anomaly or a digital exciter glitch—at least not that we can see. For weeks now the Washington, DC market has been turning off its HD Radio signals en masse. There is no longer any station in the market on AM broadcasting in HD." http://www.rbr.com/radio/12018.html "CC Radio’s Format Lab gone?" November 2008 "Really, the next round of budget cuts--out of necessity--is likely going to be HD Radio equipment and licensing renewals. It has cost broadcasters money that so far has not generated ROI. This CC Radio news above, along with the rumors that Citadel has told Engineering not to fix any broken HD transmitters on AM, may be the tip of the iceberg." http://www.rbr.com/radio/11252.html - Finally! It's over! LMFAO! SWEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet! ? LMFAO ? (OT) : PONG - PocketRadio You Put The "F" in LM_AO ! ~ RHF PR - Sadly everyone knows that in your 'special case' : The "F" stands for "Farce" and not the more common F-Word. PLEASE - Everyone GoTo : HD Radio "Farce" .Blog Spot http://hdradiofarce.blogspot.com ..Com and make PocketRadio's Day PR - Say the initials for Blog Spot are "BS" how very appropriate ~ RHF |
HD Radio shutdown in Wash, D.C! LMFAO!
Bob Campbell wrote: "Brenda Ann" wrote in message ... The average person is simply happy with what they have, and uninterested in spending the money for a so called upgrade. The average person IS happy - but he is NOT listening to radio these days. One more generation of MP3 player listeners who grow up not listening to radio *at all* will be the end of radio. Personal anecdote. I have a 20 year old daughter in college. She is home for Christmas vacation. She is *very* into her digital music collection. She has *no* vinyl records/cassette tapes, very few CDs and never listens to the radio, but she has tons of MP3s. She noticed I have 2 laptops and 2 "other things" on top of the entertainment center/bookshelf in the upstairs family room. She asked "why do you have 2 laptops up there?" My answer was that these were 2 of my AM radio stations - 800 AM and 630 AM. She asked "What do you mean 800 AM? What is that?" I said "You know, AM radio." I got a blank stare from her. Nuff said. Frankly, I hope that AM radio dies sooner rather than later. It will free up more frequencies for me to "housecast" internet radio/MP3 players on. I currently have about 10 AM transmitters, but I am only using 3 of them right now due to lack of frequencies that don't interfere with each other. Somehow, someway, that sounds pretty "kooky". |
HD Radio shutdown in Wash, D.C! LMFAO!
Bob Campbell wrote:
"David Eduardo" wrote in message ... Obviously, the people who wish to continue in denial or living in a dream world of self-invented fiction and fantasy will not be convinced by facts. I would avoid those people myself. Indeed. Since David is the *only* regular poster here who actually works in radio, I believe his postings and generally ignore everyone else's. He has access to actual facts, not just anecdotes. Also, I find it fascinating that so many people here seem to be cheering the demise of HD. As HD goes, so goes radio. The fact that HD appears to be failing only reinforces the idea that there is no interest in radio at all. No one cares about HD because no one listens to commercial radio any more. Be careful what you wish for. No one listens because the content sucks. If they want listeners they need to earn them. HD is a waste of spectrum. It is a polished turd. It is lipstick on a hockey mom. |
HD Radio shutdown in Wash, D.C! LMFAO!
msg wrote:
Bob Campbell wrote: snip Also, I find it fascinating that so many people here seem to be cheering the demise of HD. As HD goes, so goes radio. The fact that HD appears to be failing only reinforces the idea that there is no interest in radio at all. No one cares about HD because no one listens to commercial radio any more. I find this proposition presented in this NG all too often and find it arrogant and disgusting. Living in a smaller market, filled with folks decidedly not in the coveted demographic, we for the most part support, and appreciate our local AM and non-commercial radio stations and tolerate the ever-changing FM cacophony; there is no crisis of profitability or viability in our AM market and if it were threatened you can be sure of a loud protest in halls of government from our citizens. Michael Thank-you. Just because giant public companies can't run radio at a profit, there's no reason to write off the medium. Ma and Pa operations can make money, if they provide a service. |
HD Radio shutdown in Wash, D.C! LMFAO!
David Eduardo wrote:
"dxAce" wrote in message ... The DC AMs for the most part have little or zero ratings, with only 5 showing up in the Summer Arbitron book out of 26 total ams in the market. Of the 5 that showed, only one got over a 1 share in 12+, and none got over a 2 share in 25-54, the "sales demo." 20 FMs got over a 1 share, though. News WTOP-FM alone had a 12+ share greater than the share of all the DC FMs. Take a hike, 'Eduardo', as your fluff and fakery aren't playing well here in RRS, just as it doesn't in Peoria. All data came from Arbitron. Anyone subscribed to the market can see the same thing. Arbitron is full of ****. Who cares if you have 50,000 listeners, if they're all brain dead? 5,000 of the right kind of people are way more salable. |
HD Radio shutdown in Wash, D.C! LMFAO!
Bob Campbell wrote:
"David Eduardo" wrote in message ... Obviously, the people who wish to continue in denial or living in a dream world of self-invented fiction and fantasy will not be convinced by facts. I would avoid those people myself. Indeed. Since David is the *only* regular poster here who actually works in radio, I believe his postings and generally ignore everyone else's. He has access to actual facts, not just anecdotes. 'Dwardo works in COMMERCIAL radio and lives in a bubble. Hell, he admits to never having listened to radio stations with huge numbers, apparently because they challenge his "lowest common denominator" philosophy of broadcasting. |
Radio Listening Transformed By TV and Changed By The Internet
On Dec 30, 7:15*pm, "Bob Campbell" wrote:
"Brenda Ann" wrote in message ... The average person is simply happy with what they have, and uninterested in spending the money for a so called upgrade. The average person IS happy - but he is NOT listening to radio these days.. One more generation of MP3 player listeners who grow up not listening to radio *at all* will be the end of radio. Personal anecdote. * I have a 20 year old daughter in college. *She is home for Christmas vacation. * She is *very* into her digital music collection. She has *no* vinyl records/cassette tapes, very few CDs and never listens to the radio, but she has tons of MP3s. * She noticed I have 2 laptops and 2 "other things" on top of the entertainment center/bookshelf in the upstairs family room. * She asked "why do you have 2 laptops up there?" * My answer was that these were 2 of my AM radio stations - 800 AM and 630 AM. * She asked "What do you mean 800 AM? *What is that?" *I said "You know, AM radio." * I got a blank stare from her. Nuff said. Frankly, I hope that AM radio dies sooner rather than later. * It will free up more frequencies for me to "housecast" internet radio/MP3 players on. * I currently have about 10 AM transmitters, but I am only using 3 of them right now due to lack of frequencies that don't interfere with each other. Radio Listening Transformed By TV and Changed By The Internet * The TV allows the Radio Listener to Listen and See; and Transforming Them from simply Listeners to Viewers and Listeners and becoming Multi-Media Consumers. * The Internet allows the Radio Listener a Greater Variety of "Other" Audio Consumer 'Options' plus Visual Video Options Too; and changed the way they "Think" about At-Home Media and Personalized Entertainment. eChat, eZines, eGroups, iPods, iMusic, iPhones, Blogs... Daily and Nightly Radio Listening was the Primary At-Home News and Entertainment Source and "Choice" from the 1920 through the 1950s. By the 1960s TV had Transformer and replaced Radio as the Primary At-Home News and Entertainment Source and "Choice". Add in More TV Channels and Cable TV and Satellite TV Options with up to a Hundred or more Choices in the 1970s and 1980s expanded the At-Home Entertainment Options; often with Radio being a non-consideration. Then the 1990s brought in the World Wide Web and the Internet with a whole new level of At-Home Entertainment Options; with Radio simply being forgotten. Since the 1990s each new Generation Naturally {Automatically} "Thinks" of Turning-On the Morning News, Sports, Weather, and Traffic on the TV or Checking their FAV Internet Web-Portal for the same -but Not Radio. It is only during the Morning Commute in their Cars and Trucks that they can not Watch TV while Driving : So AM&FM Radio becomes one 'option' in their minds; and then mainly for the Traffic and Weather -but- They have other Audio Entertainment Music 'options' too like CDs, MP3s and iPods. They may listen to Radio at work -but- Again they have other Audio Entertainment Music 'options' too like CDs, MP3s and iPods; plus their FAV Internet Web-Portal for the same. The Evening Commute is much like the Morning Commute and listening to the Radio is just one option. Since the 1970s each new Generation Naturally {Automatically} "Thinks" of Turning-On the Evening News on the TV not Radio. Since the 1970s each new Generation Naturally {Automatically} "Thinks" of Late Night Viewing of the TV not listening to the Radio. The new Generations have Big TV and Entertainment Centers in their Living {Family} Rooms and Radio is usually a forgotten element of it all. The new Generations have a TV in every Bedroom and an Alarm Clock with a built-in Radio which usually is used for the Alarm and Clock features while the Radio is a forgotten element. The new Generations have a TV in their Kitchens; but you may not find a Radio there anymore. To the new Generations TV and now the Internet are "Where-It's At" while Radio is so 'passe'. FWIW - Each of 'you' Older-Generation Radio Listeners are Reading this Message on the Internet -and- That Ain't Radio Either. -conclusion- YES WE HAVE CHANGED TOO ~ RHF |
KPFA = KP {Kitchen Patrol} F {Freaking} A {Anarchy}
On Dec 31, 8:53*am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Dave" wrote in message m... Bob Campbell wrote: "David Eduardo" wrote in message . .. Obviously, the people who wish to continue in denial or living in a dream world of self-invented fiction and fantasy will not be convinced by facts. I would avoid those people myself. Indeed. *Since David is the *only* regular poster here who actually works in radio, I believe his postings and generally ignore everyone else's. He has access to actual facts, not just anecdotes. 'Dwardo works in COMMERCIAL radio and lives in a bubble. *Hell, he admits to never having listened to radio stations with huge numbers, apparently because they challenge his "lowest common denominator" philosophy of broadcasting. The station you mention is one of the worst performing NPR stations in the nation. In part, it is due to the horrible numbers for the music segments.. - It's ranked around 30th in LA, only narrowly beating KPFK. KPFK = KP {Kitchen Patrol} F {Freaking} K {Crazy} |
HD Radio shutdown in Wash, D.C! LMFAO!
Dave wrote:
msg wrote: Bob Campbell wrote: snip Also, I find it fascinating that so many people here seem to be cheering the demise of HD. As HD goes, so goes radio. The fact that HD appears to be failing only reinforces the idea that there is no interest in radio at all. No one cares about HD because no one listens to commercial radio any more. I find this proposition presented in this NG all too often and find it arrogant and disgusting. Living in a smaller market, filled with folks decidedly not in the coveted demographic, we for the most part support, and appreciate our local AM and non-commercial radio stations and tolerate the ever-changing FM cacophony; there is no crisis of profitability or viability in our AM market and if it were threatened you can be sure of a loud protest in halls of government from our citizens. Michael Thank-you. Just because giant public companies can't run radio at a profit, there's no reason to write off the medium. Ma and Pa operations can make money, if they provide a service. FWIW, I have been impressed with the longevity and programming at WGPA (Lehigh Valley PA -- I listen to the Internet stream) and cite it as a splendid example of what AM can be. From some 'radio-info.com' forum posts: Joe's station may be a peanut whistle, but it's probably the last true example of what radio stations should be. It should serve the community's interests. Yes, people actually do like polka...yes, people really believe what Ron Angle says...yes they are members of the community that are served by WGPA...just like the droolers who listen to the same 20 songs over and over on the 5o Kw flamethrowers in town...for such a "crappy" station, it does get alot of attention here, doesn't it? ....and I was visiting family in the Lehigh Valley area over the last couple of days, and just out of curiosity stopped in and payed Joe a visit at WGPA. He gave me a very friendly welcome and a tour of the facility. It is really quite well equipped for a small station. Just like my station, WIOO in Carlisle, WGPA is still all live with local personalities and no automation. Gotta love that. We discussed where we can still get pads for our carts! WGPA has a new transmitter and processing and sounds technically very good and clean. Joe really does provide his community with something none of the conglomerates can offer. I wish him a long healthy life and his station continued success. Michael |
HD Radio shutdown in Wash, D.C! LMFAO!
Dave wrote:
snip Thank-you. Just because giant public companies can't run radio at a profit, there's no reason to write off the medium. Ma and Pa operations can make money, if they provide a service. I find it interesting that many posters to this NG are also posting to 'radio-info.com' forums. Out of the pile of posts involving HD on that site, here is a thread of some relevance to this thread: http://boards.radio-info.com/smf/ind...c,70934.0.html Michael |
HD Radio shutdown in Wash, D.C! LMFAO!
In article ,
"Bob Campbell" wrote: "David Eduardo" wrote in message ... Obviously, the people who wish to continue in denial or living in a dream world of self-invented fiction and fantasy will not be convinced by facts. I would avoid those people myself. Indeed. Since David is the *only* regular poster here who actually works in radio, I believe his postings and generally ignore everyone else's. He has access to actual facts, not just anecdotes. Also, I find it fascinating that so many people here seem to be cheering the demise of HD. As HD goes, so goes radio. The fact that HD appears to be failing only reinforces the idea that there is no interest in radio at all. No one cares about HD because no one listens to commercial radio any more. Be careful what you wish for. As technology HD blows. As a business model HD is a power grab. I'm all for NEW, WORKABLE, DIGITAL technology that actually has payback value for the consumer along with the broadcaster. I'm for technology that has improved sound quality and quality of service, which is not OWNED BY SOME SAD-SACK CONSORTIUM. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
HD Radio shutdown in Wash, D.C! LMFAO!
In article ,
"Bob Campbell" wrote: "Brenda Ann" wrote in message ... The average person is simply happy with what they have, and uninterested in spending the money for a so called upgrade. The average person IS happy - but he is NOT listening to radio these days. One more generation of MP3 player listeners who grow up not listening to radio *at all* will be the end of radio. Personal anecdote. I have a 20 year old daughter in college. She is home for Christmas vacation. She is *very* into her digital music collection. She has *no* vinyl records/cassette tapes, very few CDs and never listens to the radio, but she has tons of MP3s. She noticed I have 2 laptops and 2 "other things" on top of the entertainment center/bookshelf in the upstairs family room. She asked "why do you have 2 laptops up there?" My answer was that these were 2 of my AM radio stations - 800 AM and 630 AM. She asked "What do you mean 800 AM? What is that?" I said "You know, AM radio." I got a blank stare from her. Nuff said. Frankly, I hope that AM radio dies sooner rather than later. It will free up more frequencies for me to "housecast" internet radio/MP3 players on. I currently have about 10 AM transmitters, but I am only using 3 of them right now due to lack of frequencies that don't interfere with each other. Don't worry Bob, she will grow up some day. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
HD Radio shutdown in Wash, D.C! LMFAO!
On Dec 30, 8:03�pm, "Bob Campbell" wrote:
"David Eduardo" wrote in message ... Obviously, the people who wish to continue in denial or living in a dream world of self-invented fiction and fantasy will not be convinced by facts. I would avoid those people myself. Indeed. �Since David is the *only* regular poster here who actually works in radio, I believe his postings and generally ignore everyone else's. �He has access to actual facts, not just anecdotes. Also, I find it fascinating that so many people here seem to be cheering the demise of HD. � As HD goes, so goes radio. � The fact that HD appears to be failing only reinforces the idea that there is no interest in radio at all. No one cares about HD because no one listens to commercial radio any more.. Be careful what you wish for. I'de destroy radio, just to destroy HD/IBOC! |
HD Radio shutdown in Wash, D.C! LMFAO!
On Dec 30, 8:03�pm, "Bob Campbell" wrote:
"David Eduardo" wrote in message ... Obviously, the people who wish to continue in denial or living in a dream world of self-invented fiction and fantasy will not be convinced by facts. I would avoid those people myself. Indeed. �Since David is the *only* regular poster here who actually works in radio, I believe his postings and generally ignore everyone else's. �He has access to actual facts, not just anecdotes. Also, I find it fascinating that so many people here seem to be cheering the demise of HD. � As HD goes, so goes radio. � The fact that HD appears to be failing only reinforces the idea that there is no interest in radio at all. No one cares about HD because no one listens to commercial radio any more.. Be careful what you wish for. I love it! |
HD Radio shutdown in Wash, D.C! LMFAO!
On Dec 30, 9:02�pm, msg wrote:
Bob Campbell wrote: snip Also, I find it fascinating that so many people here seem to be cheering the demise of HD. � As HD goes, so goes radio. � The fact that HD appears to be failing only reinforces the idea that there is no interest in radio at all. No one cares about HD because no one listens to commercial radio any more. I find this proposition presented in this NG all too often and find it arrogant and disgusting. �Living in a smaller market, filled with folks decidedly not in the coveted demographic, we for the most part support, and appreciate our local AM and non-commercial radio stations and tolerate the ever-changing FM cacophony; there is no crisis of profitability or viability in our AM market and if it were threatened you can be sure of a loud protest in halls of government from our citizens. Michael Eduardo hates AM radio, because AM-HD has been a failure. |
HD Radio shutdown in Wash, D.C! LMFAO!
On Dec 30, 9:24�pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"msg" wrote in message ernet... Bob Campbell wrote: snip Also, I find it fascinating that so many people here seem to be cheering the demise of HD. � As HD goes, so goes radio. � The fact that HD appears to be failing only reinforces the idea that there is no interest in radio at all. No one cares about HD because no one listens to commercial radio any more. I find this proposition presented in this NG all too often and find it arrogant and disgusting. �Living in a smaller market, filled with folks decidedly not in the coveted demographic, we for the most part support, and appreciate our local AM and non-commercial radio stations and tolerate the ever-changing FM cacophony; there is no crisis of profitability or viability in our AM market and if it were threatened you can be sure of a loud protest in halls of government from our citizens. AMs are dying, or starving for revenue, even in small markets. In general, the smaller market FMs have better signals and have killed the rural daytimers, Class IV's and such.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - "News/Talk/Sports: Radio's Last Bastion" "Music FMs of any flavor are utterly screwed... Right now -- while FMs are losing the music audience to new media -- satellite radio is offering more News/Talk/Sports programming than we can fit on AM radio." http://ftp.media.radcity.net/ZMST/daily/IS031005.htm Many of the larger 50kw AMs are in the top-5, or #1 in their markets, such as WLW. It's the music-oriented FMs that are slowly dying. |
HD Radio shutdown in Wash, D.C! LMFAO!
David Eduardo wrote:
The station you mention is one of the worst performing NPR stations in the nation. In part, it is due to the horrible numbers for the music segments. It's ranked around 30th in LA, only narrowly beating KPFK. It splits NPR flagship programming with KPCC. Ranked 30th during Morning Edition? Or some admittedly terrible (but they seem to serve an audience, peaople give them money) music program? |
KPFA = KP {Kitchen Patrol} F {Freaking} A {Anarchy}
RHF wrote:
On Dec 31, 8:53 am, "David Eduardo" wrote: "Dave" wrote in message m... Bob Campbell wrote: "David Eduardo" wrote in message ... Obviously, the people who wish to continue in denial or living in a dream world of self-invented fiction and fantasy will not be convinced by facts. I would avoid those people myself. Indeed. Since David is the *only* regular poster here who actually works in radio, I believe his postings and generally ignore everyone else's. He has access to actual facts, not just anecdotes. 'Dwardo works in COMMERCIAL radio and lives in a bubble. Hell, he admits to never having listened to radio stations with huge numbers, apparently because they challenge his "lowest common denominator" philosophy of broadcasting. The station you mention is one of the worst performing NPR stations in the nation. In part, it is due to the horrible numbers for the music segments. - It's ranked around 30th in LA, only narrowly beating KPFK. KPFK = KP {Kitchen Patrol} F {Freaking} K {Crazy} . KPFA = KP {Kitchen Patrol} F {Freaking} A {Anarchy} . all part of "Pacifica Radio" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacifica_Radio . Keep People From Thinking Kill Poodles For Texas |
HD Radio shutdown in Wash, D.C! LMFAO!
David Eduardo wrote:
"Dave" wrote in message m... David Eduardo wrote: The station you mention is one of the worst performing NPR stations in the nation. In part, it is due to the horrible numbers for the music segments. It's ranked around 30th in LA, only narrowly beating KPFK. It splits NPR flagship programming with KPCC. Ranked 30th during Morning Edition? Or some admittedly terrible (but they seem to serve an audience, peaople give them money) music program? WCRW is 39th in the December book, just a bit behind the web stream of COST. It's 34th in morning drive. KICK is 17th in the morning. Have you been drinking? What is KCRW's highest rated program? |
HD Radio shutdown in Wash, D.C! LMFAO!
"Dave" wrote in message ... David Eduardo wrote: "Dave" wrote in message m... David Eduardo wrote: The station you mention is one of the worst performing NPR stations in the nation. In part, it is due to the horrible numbers for the music segments. It's ranked around 30th in LA, only narrowly beating KPFK. It splits NPR flagship programming with KPCC. Ranked 30th during Morning Edition? Or some admittedly terrible (but they seem to serve an audience, peaople give them money) music program? WCRW is 39th in the December book, just a bit behind the web stream of COST. It's 34th in morning drive. KICK is 17th in the morning. KPCC... the spell checker did this before I realized it... and then I was late for dinner. Have you been drinking? I don't drink, unlike some posters. Don't do drugs, either... even ones some people we know think are mistakenly classified as illegal. What is KCRW's highest rated program? 6-10 AM, with a 1 share 12+. That ties it with KWVE, the religious FM from San Clemente. |
HD Radio shutdown in Wash, D.C! LMFAO!
David Eduardo wrote:
"Dave" wrote in message What is KCRW's highest rated program? 6-10 AM, with a 1 share 12+. That ties it with KWVE, the religious FM from San Clemente. So that indicates 1% of how many total? |
HD Radio shutdown in Wash, D.C! LMFAO!
On Dec 30 2008, 8:03*pm, "Bob Campbell" wrote:
"David Eduardo" wrote in message ... Obviously, the people who wish to continue in denial or living in a dream world of self-invented fiction and fantasy will not be convinced by facts. I would avoid those people myself. Indeed. *Since David is the *only* regular poster here who actually works in radio, I believe his postings and generally ignore everyone else's. *He has access to actual facts, not just anecdotes. Also, I find it fascinating that so many people here seem to be cheering the demise of HD. * As HD goes, so goes radio. * The fact that HD appears to be failing only reinforces the idea that there is no interest in radio at all. No one cares about HD because no one listens to commercial radio any more.. Be careful what you wish for. Radio as we know it is dying. The industry still has their collective heads in the sand. While (cume) total listening remains strong, (TSL) time spent listening continues to trend down. FM radio made the mistake of becoming jukebox clones, and forgot they were still in the entertainment business. Wall Street operators cheapened the product by eliminating talented people and reducing the ones who remain to glorified button pushers and voice trackers. Homogenized formats, endless promos and playing 10 spots in a row hurt radio further. Say what you want about satradio, but it came to be because enough people grew tired of commercial radio's trash programming. Adults 35+ still listen to radio. Adults 12-34 listen to radio when there is nothing else. Advertisers are demanding accountability, a concept foreign to most broadcasters. New media is growing in part because it addresses their accountability needs. Before our recent world wide economic meltdown, radio revenues have to been flat and trending down for years. Traditional media dollars are shifting to the Internet. Steve Jobs built a better jukebox, and like no time in history users can carry 500 songs in the palm of their hands. Research points to ipod fatigue and that users grow tired of managing their own playlist. While that maybe true for some, for others it’s a small issue. The research comes from well-funded groups with agendas, where asking the right questions distorts the results, its not pure. PPM is turning some well-believed ideals on its head. Radio's loyal audience, doesn't exist, radio doesn't have exclusive cumes, listeners aren’t listening for long time periods. From station to station, market-to-market radio all sounds the same. The trends are for more syndicated programming, and AM talk formats moving to FM where traditional music once ruled. Free music is everyplace today. Thanks to the Internet, DJ's are becoming a dying breed because for the first time in history, users can program their own playlist live, and share it with other listeners. The concept of top down programming from the PD is old school. Growth of HD is slow and offers listeners more of the same jukebox cloned formats found on FM radio. And in homes, you'll find 8 radios that listeners are comfortable with how they sound and the various formats. HD doesn't offer compelling reasons to upgrade. The next generation has unplugged from radio. Sticking to old school radio will kill HD. Radio of the future, will include the ability to store music and capture digital streams. We live in a times-shifted world where users can control and delete content. Give listeners the ability to program their own music and content from their HD radio. Radio's last hope is talent, where original content comes from writing and research. Playing music, mass media style is dead, something the next generation of listeners have no interest in. The bloodiest battle is taking place on the dashboard. While radio continues to defend the fortress, radio’s enemy is climbing the walls. Expect within the next 5-10 years every dashboard will be Internet enabled. Either free or paid wireless Internet access will be commonplace. Radio’s current group of corrupt Wall Street leaders know this to be true. And The NAB continues to play their lobbyist games, wasting resources fighting satradio, which hasn’t worked. The future won’t stop and technology is going to change how you and I receive information. Radio lives in a world of denial afraid to make changes, while clinging onto the past, afraid they’ll loose power and control. Change is coming! |
HD Radio shutdown in Wash, D.C! LMFAO!
Pocket-Radio wrote:
Radio's last hope is talent, where original content comes from writing and research. Playing music, mass media style is dead, something the next generation of listeners have no interest in. The bloodiest battle is taking place on the dashboard. While radio continues to defend the fortress, radio’s enemy is climbing the walls. Expect within the next 5-10 years every dashboard will be Internet enabled. Either free or paid wireless Internet access will be commonplace. Radio’s current group of corrupt Wall Street leaders know this to be true. And The NAB continues to play their lobbyist games, wasting resources fighting satradio, which hasn’t worked. The future won’t stop and technology is going to change how you and I receive information. Radio lives in a world of denial afraid to make changes, while clinging onto the past, afraid they’ll loose power and control. Traditional radio programming lives-on regardless of the delivery mechanism. Likewise, people will seek out compelling content. |
HD Radio shutdown in Wash, D.C! LMFAO!
Obviously, the people who wish to continue in denial or living in a dream world of self-invented fiction and fantasy will not be convinced by facts. I would avoid those people myself. Indeed. ?Since David is the *only* regular poster here who actually works in radio, I believe his postings and generally ignore everyone else's. ?He has access to actual facts, not just anecdotes. Also, I find it fascinating that so many people here seem to be cheering the demise of HD. ? As HD goes, so goes radio. ? The fact that HD appears to be failing only reinforces the idea that there is no interest in radio at all. No one cares about HD because no one listens to commercial radio any more. Be careful what you wish for. I'd destroy radio, just to destroy HD/IBOC! Wow...I think you have some anger issues....all because you can't DX anymore.. But considering your track record for predictions Gallant, I dont think HD has anything to worry about. |
HD Radio shutdown in Wash, D.C! LMFAO!
"Dave" wrote in message ... David Eduardo wrote: "Dave" wrote in message What is KCRW's highest rated program? 6-10 AM, with a 1 share 12+. That ties it with KWVE, the religious FM from San Clemente. So that indicates 1% of how many total? 1% of the average radio listenership during that time period. |
PocketRadio -proclaims- I'd Destroy Radio : Just To Destroy HD/IBOC !
On Dec 31 2008, 2:54*pm, PocketRadio wrote:
On Dec 30, 8:03 pm, "Bob Campbell" wrote: "David Eduardo" wrote in message .. . Obviously, the people who wish to continue in denial or living in a dream world of self-invented fiction and fantasy will not be convinced by facts. I would avoid those people myself. Indeed. Since David is the *only* regular poster here who actually works in radio, I believe his postings and generally ignore everyone else's. He has access to actual facts, not just anecdotes. Also, I find it fascinating that so many people here seem to be cheering the demise of HD. As HD goes, so goes radio. The fact that HD appears to be failing only reinforces the idea that there is no interest in radio at all. No one cares about HD because no one listens to commercial radio any more. Be careful what you wish for. - I'de destroy radio, just to destroy HD/IBOC! PocketRadio -proclaims- I'd Destroy Radio : Just To Destroy HD/IBOC ! 'pr' - yeah i kind of figured that one out by now ~ RHF |
HD Radio shutdown in Wash, D.C! LMFAO!
On Dec 31 2008, 5:17*am, Dave wrote:
David Eduardo wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... The DC AMs for the most part have little or zero ratings, with only 5 showing up in the Summer Arbitron book out of 26 total ams in the market. Of the 5 that showed, only one got over a 1 share in 12+, and none got over a 2 share in 25-54, the "sales demo." *20 FMs got over a 1 share, though. News WTOP-FM alone had a 12+ share greater than the share of all the DC FMs. Take a hike, 'Eduardo', as your fluff and fakery aren't playing well here in RRS, just as it doesn't in Peoria. All data came from Arbitron. Anyone subscribed to the market can see the same thing. Arbitron is full of ****. *Who cares if you have 50,000 listeners, if they're all brain dead? *5,000 of the right kind of people are way more salable. Dave in America one Set-of-Ears is the equal of another Set-of-Ears - Oops except if they are a Pair of Over 50 Ears and then they are not salable. ~ RHF |
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