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![]() Michael "I'm a college professor with a PhD" wrote: On Jan 2, 8:24�pm, John Smith wrote: ka6uup wrote: � ... His Mother is/was an American citizen. Therefore he is an American citizen no matter where he was born And, since his grandmother was the only one, to my knowledge, to make any sort of statement which would call his citizenship into question, and further, seeing how she died so shortly after his visit to her, I would think only the amount of logic necessary to draw his citizenship to scrutiny need be applied to argue a nice conspiracy theory here! Yanno', the coincidence of her dying and eliminating the only eyewitness ... grin Regards, JS The grandmother making the statements that he was born in Kenya was his father's mother, who is still alive in Kenya. I think she simply wants to remind people of his Kenyan roots. The fact that birth announcements from back then were published in Hawaiin newspapers is a pretty good sign he was born in the US. But, in reality, Barry's mother 'could' have given birth in Kenya and then returned to the US and had the announcement placed in "Hawaiin" newspapers, Mr. PhD. |
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![]() "dxAce" wrote in message ... Michael "I'm a college professor with a PhD" wrote: On Jan 2, 8:24�pm, John Smith wrote: ka6uup wrote: � ... His Mother is/was an American citizen. Therefore he is an American citizen no matter where he was born And, since his grandmother was the only one, to my knowledge, to make any sort of statement which would call his citizenship into question, and further, seeing how she died so shortly after his visit to her, I would think only the amount of logic necessary to draw his citizenship to scrutiny need be applied to argue a nice conspiracy theory here! Yanno', the coincidence of her dying and eliminating the only eyewitness ... grin Regards, JS The grandmother making the statements that he was born in Kenya was his father's mother, who is still alive in Kenya. I think she simply wants to remind people of his Kenyan roots. The fact that birth announcements from back then were published in Hawaiin newspapers is a pretty good sign he was born in the US. But, in reality, Barry's mother 'could' have given birth in Kenya and then returned to the US and had the announcement placed in "Hawaiin" newspapers, Mr. PhD. Even had she done so, he would still be a natural born US citizen by virtue of his mother being an American. Aside from that, she may have been able to get the paper to post that he was born in Hawaii, but I doubt she could have talked the hospital or the clerk into issuing a Hawaiian birth certificate. |
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![]() Brenda Ann wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... Michael "I'm a college professor with a PhD" wrote: On Jan 2, 8:24�pm, John Smith wrote: ka6uup wrote: � ... His Mother is/was an American citizen. Therefore he is an American citizen no matter where he was born And, since his grandmother was the only one, to my knowledge, to make any sort of statement which would call his citizenship into question, and further, seeing how she died so shortly after his visit to her, I would think only the amount of logic necessary to draw his citizenship to scrutiny need be applied to argue a nice conspiracy theory here! Yanno', the coincidence of her dying and eliminating the only eyewitness ... grin Regards, JS The grandmother making the statements that he was born in Kenya was his father's mother, who is still alive in Kenya. I think she simply wants to remind people of his Kenyan roots. The fact that birth announcements from back then were published in Hawaiin newspapers is a pretty good sign he was born in the US. But, in reality, Barry's mother 'could' have given birth in Kenya and then returned to the US and had the announcement placed in "Hawaiin" newspapers, Mr. PhD. Even had she done so, he would still be a natural born US citizen by virtue of his mother being an American. I don't think that's exactly the way it works. Yes, he might be (or become) a US citizen, however, if he was *born* in Kenya it would not satisfy the requirement. There are exceptions of course in that folks can be born overseas on US bases that would satisfy the requirement. One could (or can be) born on a US military ship and be considered a natural born US citizen as such ship is considered to be merely an extension of US territory. Aside from that, she may have been able to get the paper to post that he was born in Hawaii, but I doubt she could have talked the hospital or the clerk into issuing a Hawaiian birth certificate. While I've not seen a copy of the announcement, I seem to recall hearing that no mention was made in said announcement as to where the birth took place. In the paper, I suppose, one could merely announce that "Mr. and Mrs. XYZ would like to announce the birth of a son, 'BongoDrum', on April 1st". Who knows exactly what the certificate says? Last I heard, those records were sealed. I'm not pro or con to the theories, just trying to figure out what the 'reality' may or may not be. |
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![]() "dxAce" wrote in message ... While I've not seen a copy of the announcement, I seem to recall hearing that no mention was made in said announcement as to where the birth took place. In the paper, I suppose, one could merely announce that "Mr. and Mrs. XYZ would like to announce the birth of a son, 'BongoDrum', on April 1st". Pretty close to that: Mr. and Mrs. Barack H. Obama, 6085 Kalanianaoie Hwy., Son, Aug. 4. From the Sunday Advertiser, Aug. 13, 1961, Pp. B-6, Health Bureau Statistics (which infers to me that it was not the parents, but the state/county Health Bureau that sent the information to the paper. |
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![]() Brenda Ann wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... While I've not seen a copy of the announcement, I seem to recall hearing that no mention was made in said announcement as to where the birth took place. In the paper, I suppose, one could merely announce that "Mr. and Mrs. XYZ would like to announce the birth of a son, 'BongoDrum', on April 1st". Pretty close to that: Mr. and Mrs. Barack H. Obama, 6085 Kalanianaoie Hwy., Son, Aug. 4. From the Sunday Advertiser, Aug. 13, 1961, Pp. B-6, Health Bureau Statistics (which infers to me that it was not the parents, but the state/county Health Bureau that sent the information to the paper. And that could perhaps only be a case of them (the Obama's) going to the state/county and registering said birth. Note that no mention being made of the *location* of said birth. Could be interesting to say the least if at some point in time it were to be discovered that Barry was not born in the USA. Looking forward to the riots, dxAce Michigan USA |
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On Jan 3, 5:49�am, dxAce wrote:
Brenda Ann wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... While I've not seen a copy of the announcement, I seem to recall hearing that no mention was made in said announcement as to where the birth took place. In the paper, I suppose, one could merely announce that "Mr. and Mrs. XYZ would like to announce the birth of a son, 'BongoDrum', on April 1st". Pretty close to that: Mr. and Mrs. Barack H. Obama, 6085 Kalanianaoie Hwy., Son, Aug. 4. From the Sunday Advertiser, Aug. 13, 1961, Pp. B-6, Health Bureau Statistics (which infers to me that it was not the parents, but the state/county Health Bureau that sent the information to the paper. And that could perhaps only be a case of them (the Obama's) going to the state/county and registering said birth. Note that no mention being made of the *location* of said birth. Could be interesting to say the least if at some point in time it were to be discovered that Barry was not born in the USA. Looking forward to the riots, dxAce Michigan USA- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Maybe you should pursue some education of yourself, Steve. Your grasp of the issue isn't very sharp. Why would America riot if Obama wasn't born in the US? Are you saying you'd be rioting? That might really pump up military recruitment! |
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dxAce wrote:
Looking forward to the riots, dxAce Michigan USA The only riots will be the ones started by the government so they will have an excuse to declare martial law. |
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On Jan 3, 2:49*am, dxAce wrote:
Brenda Ann wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... While I've not seen a copy of the announcement, I seem to recall hearing that no mention was made in said announcement as to where the birth took place. In the paper, I suppose, one could merely announce that "Mr. and Mrs. XYZ would like to announce the birth of a son, 'BongoDrum', on April 1st". Pretty close to that: Mr. and Mrs. Barack H. Obama, 6085 Kalanianaoie Hwy., Son, Aug. 4. From the Sunday Advertiser, Aug. 13, 1961, Pp. B-6, Health Bureau Statistics (which infers to me that it was not the parents, but the state/county Health Bureau that sent the information to the paper. And that could perhaps only be a case of them (the Obama's) going to the state/county and registering said birth. Note that no mention being made of the *location* of said birth. - Could be interesting to say the least if at - some point in time it were to be discovered - that Barry was not born in the USA. - - Looking forward to the riots, - - dxAce - Michigan - USA kooks, Kooks. KOOKS-A-RU ! The real truth will not be 'revealed' until March 2009 and then Joe Biden will step-in as the US President and Hillary Clinton will become the VP ![]() sounds crazy -but- 'the plan' is working ~ RHF |
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On Jan 3, 1:59*am, "Brenda Ann" wrote:
"dxAce" wrote in message ... Michael "I'm a college professor with a PhD" *wrote: On Jan 2, 8:24 pm, John Smith wrote: ka6uup wrote: ... His Mother is/was an American citizen. Therefore he is an American citizen no matter where he was born And, since his grandmother was the only one, to my knowledge, to make any sort of statement which would call his citizenship into question, and further, seeing how she died so shortly after his visit to her, I would think only the amount of logic necessary to draw his citizenship to scrutiny need be applied to argue a nice conspiracy theory here! Yanno', the coincidence of her dying and eliminating the only eyewitness ... grin Regards, JS The grandmother making the statements that he was born in Kenya was his father's mother, who is still alive in Kenya. I think she simply wants to remind people of his Kenyan roots. The fact that birth announcements from back then were published in Hawaiin newspapers is a pretty good sign he was born in the US. But, in reality, Barry's mother 'could' have given birth in Kenya and then returned to the US and had the announcement placed in "Hawaiin" newspapers, Mr. PhD. - Even had she done so, he would still be a - natural born US citizen by virtue of his mother - being an American. *Aside from that, she may - have been able to get the paper to post that he - was born in Hawaii, but I doubt she could have - talked the hospital or the clerk into issuing a - Hawaiian birth certificate. BAD, NO the Term is Specific "Natural Born Citizen" meaning that the person was Born in the USA. Note : That an Illegal Alien Invader is just that -but- Their Child which is in-fact Born in the USA "IS" a "Natural Born Citizen" and when that Child reaches the Age of 35 Years are 'qualified' to be the President of the USA. It ain't about Obama's White American Mother It ain't about Obama's Black African Father It is simply about Barack Hussein Obama being Born in the State of Hawaii and BEING a 100% "Natural Born Citizen" of the USA : WHICH HE IS [.] |
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