On Jan 4, 6:05*pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"elaich" wrote in ...
"David Eduardo" wrote in
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I don't see how it would. People listen if they like it, not because
someone 200 miles away can hear it (which with the two Mexicans on,
they can't)

Well, I'm 600 miles away and I don't have any trouble hearing it. I'd
actually like to hear the Mexicans for a change.

Why don't you try listening to KNBR and KGO some evenings, and listen to
them get callers from all over the Western US? You take a local scenario,
which is the situation of KFI probably within a 100 mile radius of LA, and
try to apply it across the board.

No, I checked KFI in early evening (post sunset and prior to the CST sign
offs of the Cd. Juárez and Parral stations) in locations from the Palm
Springs area to Phoenix to Prescott, AZ, in the last two weeks, and while
the Mexican stations are on, listening to KFI is unpleasant to unbearable..

- The fact that KGO and KNBR get calls means
- nothing more than that they have a few dozen
- listeners outside their groundwave coverage areas.
- They certainly don't have enough to show up
- in the ratings anywhere else.

d'Eduardo,

Those would be Persistent AM Radio Listeners :
Who Persistently Call-In To Hear Themselves Talk.

Seams Like There Are Real Numbers Out There :
To Be Counted and Be Sold to the Right Advertisers.

~ RHF

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"David Eduardo" wrote:

"elaich" wrote in message ...
"David Eduardo" wrote in
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I don't see how it would. People listen if they like it, not because
someone 200 miles away can hear it (which with the two Mexicans on,
they can't)


Well, I'm 600 miles away and I don't have any trouble hearing it. I'd
actually like to hear the Mexicans for a change.

Why don't you try listening to KNBR and KGO some evenings, and listen to
them get callers from all over the Western US? You take a local scenario,
which is the situation of KFI probably within a 100 mile radius of LA, and
try to apply it across the board.

No, I checked KFI in early evening (post sunset and prior to the CST sign
offs of the Cd. Juárez and Parral stations) in locations from the Palm
Springs area to Phoenix to Prescott, AZ, in the last two weeks, and while
the Mexican stations are on, listening to KFI is unpleasant to unbearable.

The fact that KGO and KNBR get calls means nothing more than that they have
a few dozen listeners outside their groundwave coverage areas. They
certainly don't have enough to show up in the ratings anywhere else.

How else am I going to listen to Dr. Bill Wattenburg but tune in KGO?

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

"Telamon" wrote in message
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How else am I going to listen to Dr. Bill Wattenburg but tune in KGO?


There's this newfangled device called a computer....

,-)

Seriously, KGO even has podcasts of most shows, as well as the stream.

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"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
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How else am I going to listen to Dr. Bill Wattenburg but tune in KGO?


There's this newfangled device called a computer....

,-)

Seriously, KGO even has podcasts of most shows, as well as the stream.

It is my preference to listen using the radio. I already spend enough
time listening/watching news web casts.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

"David Eduardo" wrote in message
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The fact that KGO and KNBR get calls means nothing more than that they
have a few dozen listeners outside their groundwave coverage areas. They
certainly don't have enough to show up in the ratings anywhere else.

Both also stream their broadcasts on the net, as do most stations these
days. KGO is even in iTunes. Callers can come from anywhere in the
world.

Bob Dobbs wrote:

Back then you could get a plastic overlay that was static attached to
the screen with blue up in the sky region, green down in the grass
region, and a reddish tint where the cowboys faces usually were.


The Live Sea Monkeys (see them frolic) and X-Ray Vision Glasses were a
lot cheaper.





mike

David Eduardo wrote:

"Dave" wrote in message
m...
Bob Dobbs wrote:
David Eduardo wrote:
"Monty Hall" wrote in message
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These broadcasters are insane to do things like HD/IBOC to
restrict and limit their already-dwindling audiences. They should
be working to INCREASE their coverage area and listenership; not
reduce it.
The only coverage that counts is in their home markets.

DX listeners don't count in the business model.
They never have since the early 50's.

Your only experience with what counts depends on someone with extra time
filling out a diary truthfully and having their circumstance being
actually representative of a desirable demographic rather than the
fantasy many of those people present as you do in this forum.

So KFI's reputation as a powerful station with listeners afar doesn't
help its local ratings?

I don't see how it would. People listen if they like it, not because
someone 200 miles away can hear it (which with the two Mexicans on, they
can't)

One would think that would be less of an issue as one went further away
from Mexico.

People like adopting winners.

"Telamon" wrote in message
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"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
...

How else am I going to listen to Dr. Bill Wattenburg but tune in KGO?


There's this newfangled device called a computer....

,-)

Seriously, KGO even has podcasts of most shows, as well as the stream.

It is my preference to listen using the radio. I already spend enough
time listening/watching news web casts.


Think of all the digital artifacts you are missing.

"Dave" wrote in message
m...
David Eduardo wrote:

"Dave" wrote in message
m...
Bob Dobbs wrote:
David Eduardo wrote:
"Monty Hall" wrote in message
...
These broadcasters are insane to do things like HD/IBOC to restrict
and limit their already-dwindling audiences. They should be working
to INCREASE their coverage area and listenership; not reduce it.
The only coverage that counts is in their home markets.

DX listeners don't count in the business model.
They never have since the early 50's.

Your only experience with what counts depends on someone with extra
time
filling out a diary truthfully and having their circumstance being
actually representative of a desirable demographic rather than the
fantasy many of those people present as you do in this forum.

So KFI's reputation as a powerful station with listeners afar doesn't
help its local ratings?

I don't see how it would. People listen if they like it, not because
someone 200 miles away can hear it (which with the two Mexicans on, they
can't)

One would think that would be less of an issue as one went further away
from Mexico.

KFI is in LA, and the two major interferers in the mountain west are in
northern and southern Chihuahua state; as you move away from LA, most
locations in the US will be at about the same distance from Chihuahua but
farther and farther from LA. And by the time you get to the midwest (beyond
the KFI protected night signal reach anyway) there is the Tulancingo
station, 50 kw, to contend with, as well as Cuba, Venezuela and Colombia.

People like adopting winners.

David Eduardo wrote:


No, they did not. When Top 40 began in 1952, it helped move most radio
listening to local radio stations. TV simply killed night listening to
radio over a period of only a few years.


You are talking about a certain brain-dead subset of the population that
is composed of people who are disgustingly easy to manipulate. They
watch whatever crap you feed them and buy whatever they are told to buy.
These are your choice demographic: the dumb asses.