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radioguy January 15th 09 11:40 AM

Are hams terrorists?
 
Take a look at the excuses the U.S. feds gave.

I don't know if all of these people really were terrorists or not as
the feds claim, however looking at the reasons the feds gave, I don't
see any way of any legittimate ham radio operator getting out of being
accused and arrested and ruled definitely a terrorist even if you are
a legitimate law-abiding ham. You won't be able to prove you're
innocent.

http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:...lnk&cd=4&gl=us

The same might eventually be said for cbers also. Along with frs.gmrs
users, eventually.







Dave[_18_] January 15th 09 01:19 PM

Are hams terrorists?
 
radioguy wrote:
Take a look at the excuses the U.S. feds gave.

I don't know if all of these people really were terrorists or not as
the feds claim, however looking at the reasons the feds gave, I don't
see any way of any legittimate ham radio operator getting out of being
accused and arrested and ruled definitely a terrorist even if you are
a legitimate law-abiding ham. You won't be able to prove you're
innocent.

http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:...lnk&cd=4&gl=us

The same might eventually be said for cbers also. Along with frs.gmrs
users, eventually.


That doesn't help.

BDK[_6_] January 15th 09 02:01 PM

Are hams terrorists?
 
In article 1ea15df8-1dbd-45bd-b756-c0471d76fe37@
13g2000yql.googlegroups.com, says...
Take a look at the excuses the U.S. feds gave.

I don't know if all of these people really were terrorists or not as
the feds claim, however looking at the reasons the feds gave, I don't
see any way of any legittimate ham radio operator getting out of being
accused and arrested and ruled definitely a terrorist even if you are
a legitimate law-abiding ham. You won't be able to prove you're
innocent.

http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:...lnk&cd=4&gl=us

The same might eventually be said for cbers also. Along with frs.gmrs
users, eventually.








Look at the date.
--
BDK

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NJJ CLUB #1
Shillmaster

Phisher.King. January 15th 09 02:40 PM

Are hams terrorists?
 
radioguy wrote in
:

Take a look at the excuses the U.S. feds gave.

I don't know if all of these people really were terrorists or not as
the feds claim, however looking at the reasons the feds gave, I don't
see any way of any legittimate ham radio operator getting out of being
accused and arrested and ruled definitely a terrorist even if you are
a legitimate law-abiding ham. You won't be able to prove you're
innocent.

http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:...ps.derkeiler.c
om/pdf/Archive/Rec/rec.radio.amateur.misc/2008-04/msg00001.pdf+%22arres
ted+for+using+a+ham+radio%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=4&gl =us

The same might eventually be said for cbers also. Along with frs.gmrs
users, eventually.







I bought a ham the other day and found it quite tasty. I wasn't a bit
terrorized.


--
"The better educated a person is, the less likely it is that person will be
a conservative."

[email protected] January 15th 09 08:42 PM

Are hams terrorists?
 
On Thu, 15 Jan 2009 03:40:08 -0800 (PST), radioguy
wrote:

Take a look at the excuses the U.S. feds gave.

I don't know if all of these people really were terrorists or not as
the feds claim, however looking at the reasons the feds gave, I don't
see any way of any legittimate ham radio operator getting out of being
accused and arrested and ruled definitely a terrorist even if you are
a legitimate law-abiding ham. You won't be able to prove you're
innocent.

http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:...lnk&cd=4&gl=us

The same might eventually be said for cbers also. Along with frs.gmrs
users, eventually.

Are you that gullible that you believe that article?

Jeff George January 15th 09 09:49 PM

Are hams terrorists?
 

I'm sure it won't be long before Israel declares hams to be terrorists.

[email protected] January 15th 09 10:12 PM

Are hams terrorists?
 
On Jan 15, 6:40�am, radioguy wrote:
Take a look at the excuses the U.S. feds gave.

I don't know if all of these people really were terrorists or not as
the feds claim, however looking at the reasons the feds gave, I don't
see any way of any legittimate ham radio operator getting out of being
accused and arrested and ruled definitely �a terrorist even if you are
a legitimate law-abiding ham. You won't be able to prove you're
innocent.

http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:...oups.derkeiler....

The same might eventually be said for cbers also. Along with frs.gmrs
users, eventually.


You are a troll and so is the story.. you guys took this crap hook
line and sinker..

This story is bogus, look at the names in the story..."Lucifer
Barrientos"

Who, but in hell is going to name their kid "Lucifer" or even
Ramakrishna Lakshminaramayanan. Google William Roberts and terroist,
not one hit, nothing, nada.

The only place you can find this bogus story is on Usenet.

DL

radioguy January 15th 09 10:37 PM

Are hams terrorists?
 
On Jan 15, 5:12*pm, wrote:
On Jan 15, 6:40 am, radioguy wrote:

Take a look at the excuses the U.S. feds gave.


I don't know if all of these people really were terrorists or not as
the feds claim, however looking at the reasons the feds gave, I don't
see any way of any legittimate ham radio operator getting out of being
accused and arrested and ruled definitely a terrorist even if you are
a legitimate law-abiding ham. You won't be able to prove you're
innocent.


http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:...oups.derkeiler....


The same might eventually be said for cbers also. Along with frs.gmrs
users, eventually.


You are a troll and so is the story.. you guys took this crap hook
line and sinker..

This story is bogus, look at the names in the story..."Lucifer
Barrientos"

Who, but in hell is going to name their kid "Lucifer" or even
Ramakrishna Lakshminaramayanan. *Google William Roberts and terroist,
not one hit, nothing, nada.

The only place you can find this bogus story is on Usenet.

DL


Actually, there are some Doctor Who books written by a guy whose last
name really is Lucifer.

Lofficer is French for Lucifer.

Yes the story is bogus. I did not notice the date on it until
afterwards.

However it was very plausible since in the past,I have actually
experienced similar catch-22 situations by certain self-appointed
cops who turned out to be hams.

What is it with ham radio that seems to attract all of the self-
appointed radio cops???

CB doesn't seem to attract them.

This isn't anything against all hams

It's just a certain few that seem to give all hams a bad name.

Come to think of it, it's not jst hams. GMRS seems to attract them
also.

It seems like radio services requiring a radio license attracts all of
the self-appointed radio cops.





SC Dxing January 15th 09 10:50 PM

Are hams terrorists?
 
wrote in message
...
Who, but in hell is going to name their kid "Lucifer" or even
Ramakrishna Lakshminaramayanan.


Someone named their kid Adolf Hitler and it was all over the news.

The only place you can find this bogus story is on Usenet.


Oh, not just usenet. What's funny is so many people have responded to the
false story, including yourself and now sad to say, myself. We both just
rewarded the poster by responding to it.


SC Dxing January 15th 09 10:54 PM

Are hams terrorists?
 
"radioguy" wrote in message
...
On Jan 15, 5:12 pm, wrote:

This isn't anything against all hams


It's just a certain few that seem to give all hams a bad name.


Correct. Most hams probably are good people but if you just read usenet, you
would think hams are basket cases.


Bert Hyman January 15th 09 10:56 PM

Are hams terrorists?
 
In

radioguy wrote:

What is it with ham radio that seems to attract all of the self-
appointed radio cops???

CB doesn't seem to attract them.


Then perhaps you should stay on CB.

--
Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN

[email protected] January 15th 09 11:51 PM

Are hams terrorists?
 
On Jan 15, 5:50�pm, "SC Dxing" wrote:
wrote in message

...

Who, but in hell is going to name their kid "Lucifer" or even
Ramakrishna Lakshminaramayanan.


Someone named their kid Adolf Hitler and it was all over the news.

The only place you can find this bogus story is on Usenet.


Oh, not just usenet. What's funny is so many people have responded to the
false story, including yourself and now sad to say, myself. We both just
rewarded the poster by responding to it.


Not necessary, I did not respond to the story, I responded to
Radioguy's post, reporting a blatant troll story.

73 DL

[email protected] January 16th 09 12:00 AM

Are hams terrorists?
 
On Jan 15, 5:37�pm, radioguy wrote:
On Jan 15, 5:12�pm, wrote:





On Jan 15, 6:40 am, radioguy wrote:


Take a look at the excuses the U.S. feds gave.


I don't know if all of these people really were terrorists or not as
the feds claim, however looking at the reasons the feds gave, I don't
see any way of any legittimate ham radio operator getting out of being
accused and arrested and ruled definitely a terrorist even if you are
a legitimate law-abiding ham. You won't be able to prove you're
innocent.


http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:...oups.derkeiler...


The same might eventually be said for cbers also. Along with frs.gmrs
users, eventually.


You are a troll and so is the story.. you guys took this crap hook
line and sinker..


This story is bogus, look at the names in the story..."Lucifer
Barrientos"


Who, but in hell is going to name their kid "Lucifer" or even
Ramakrishna Lakshminaramayanan. �Google William Roberts and terroist,
not one hit, nothing, nada.


The only place you can find this bogus story is on Usenet.


DL


Actually, there are some Doctor Who books written by a guy whose �last
name really is Lucifer.

Lofficer is French for Lucifer.

Yes the story is bogus. I did not notice the date on it until
afterwards.

However it was very plausible since in the past,I have actually
experienced similar catch-22 �situations by certain self-appointed
cops who turned out to be hams.

What is it with ham radio that seems to attract all of the self-
appointed radio cops???

Not sure, never ran into these folks, but I have heard of them.
Mostly OO's hanging out on 75 waiting to pounce.

CB doesn't seem to attract them.

CB doesn't seem to attract anything around here but three types, drive
time users, truckers, and professional CB'er's with their big amps,
echo mics, roger beeps, noise toys, etc etc etc, so they can ride
around in their vehicles yelling, "NO NAME NO NAME NO NAME", or
"SQUISH SQUISH SQUSIH", or "CB FAGGOT CB FAGGOT CB FAGGOT" or "DAVE
MADE DAVE MADE DAVE MADE", or varibles of such. Quite amusing for
about 10 seconds listening tor grown men acting like a bunch of
morons.

Which is why we call it, at least around my parts, the Children's Band
Radio.

This isn't anything against all hams

This isn't anything aganst all CB users

It's just a certain few that seem to give all hams a bad name.

Ditto

Come to think of it, it's not jst hams. GMRS seems to attract them
also.

It seems like radio services requiring a radio license attracts all of
the self-appointed radio cops.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


73, DL

[email protected] January 16th 09 12:27 AM

Are hams terrorists?
 
On Jan 15, 7:19*am, Dave wrote:
radioguy wrote:
Take a look at the excuses the U.S. feds gave.


I don't know if all of these people really were terrorists or not as
the feds claim, however looking at the reasons the feds gave, I don't
see any way of any legittimate ham radio operator getting out of being
accused and arrested and ruled definitely *a terrorist even if you are
a legitimate law-abiding ham. You won't be able to prove you're
innocent.


http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:...oups.derkeiler....


The same might eventually be said for cbers also. Along with frs.gmrs
users, eventually.


That doesn't help.- Hide quoted text -


At least your "free", Dr.DaviD - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4YbZ7iXFDA

RHF January 16th 09 02:23 AM

Are hams terrorists?
 
On Jan 15, 2:12*pm, wrote:
On Jan 15, 6:40 am, radioguy wrote:

Take a look at the excuses the U.S. feds gave.


I don't know if all of these people really were terrorists or not as
the feds claim, however looking at the reasons the feds gave, I don't
see any way of any legittimate ham radio operator getting out of being
accused and arrested and ruled definitely a terrorist even if you are
a legitimate law-abiding ham. You won't be able to prove you're
innocent.


http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:...oups.derkeiler....


The same might eventually be said for cbers also. Along with frs.gmrs
users, eventually.


You are a troll and so is the story.. you guys took this crap hook
line and sinker..

This story is bogus, look at the names in the story..."Lucifer
Barrientos"

Who, but in hell is going to name their kid "Lucifer" or even
Ramakrishna Lakshminaramayanan. *Google William Roberts and terroist,
not one hit, nothing, nada.

The only place you can find this bogus story is on Usenet.

DL


Yeah TSA and William Roberts does show
very few results; but there are no results that
show the article to be a fraud either. ~ RHF

RHF January 16th 09 02:25 AM

Are hams terrorists?
 
On Jan 15, 4:00*pm, wrote:
On Jan 15, 5:37 pm, radioguy wrote:

On Jan 15, 5:12 pm, wrote:


On Jan 15, 6:40 am, radioguy wrote:


Take a look at the excuses the U.S. feds gave.


I don't know if all of these people really were terrorists or not as
the feds claim, however looking at the reasons the feds gave, I don't
see any way of any legittimate ham radio operator getting out of being
accused and arrested and ruled definitely a terrorist even if you are
a legitimate law-abiding ham. You won't be able to prove you're
innocent.


http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:...oups.derkeiler...


The same might eventually be said for cbers also. Along with frs.gmrs
users, eventually.


You are a troll and so is the story.. you guys took this crap hook
line and sinker..


This story is bogus, look at the names in the story..."Lucifer
Barrientos"


Who, but in hell is going to name their kid "Lucifer" or even
Ramakrishna Lakshminaramayanan. Google William Roberts and terroist,
not one hit, nothing, nada.


The only place you can find this bogus story is on Usenet.


DL


Actually, there are some Doctor Who books written by a guy whose last
name really is Lucifer.


Lofficer is French for Lucifer.


Yes the story is bogus. I did not notice the date on it until
afterwards.


However it was very plausible since in the past,I have actually
experienced similar catch-22 situations by certain self-appointed
cops who turned out to be hams.


What is it with ham radio that seems to attract all of the self-
appointed radio cops???


Not sure, never ran into these folks, but I have heard of them.
Mostly OO's hanging out on 75 waiting to pounce.

CB doesn't seem to attract them.


CB doesn't seem to attract anything around here but three types, drive
time users, truckers, and professional CB'er's with their big amps,
echo mics, roger beeps, noise toys, etc etc etc, so they can ride
around in their vehicles yelling, "NO NAME NO NAME NO NAME", or
"SQUISH SQUISH SQUSIH", or "CB FAGGOT CB FAGGOT CB FAGGOT" or "DAVE
MADE DAVE MADE DAVE MADE", or varibles of such. *Quite amusing for
about 10 seconds listening tor grown men acting like a bunch of
morons.

Which is why we call it, at least around my parts, the Children's Band
Radio.

This isn't anything against all hams


This isn't anything aganst all CB users

It's just a certain few that seem to give all hams a bad name.


Ditto

Come to think of it, it's not jst hams. GMRS seems to attract them
also.


It seems like radio services requiring a radio license attracts all of
the self-appointed radio cops.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


73, DL


Roger Beep That ! ;-} ~ RHF

RHF January 16th 09 02:27 AM

Are hams terrorists?
 
On Jan 15, 3:51*pm, wrote:
On Jan 15, 5:50 pm, "SC Dxing" wrote:

wrote in message


....


Who, but in hell is going to name their kid "Lucifer" or even
Ramakrishna Lakshminaramayanan.


Someone named their kid Adolf Hitler and it was all over the news.


The only place you can find this bogus story is on Usenet.


Oh, not just usenet. What's funny is so many people have responded to the
false story, including yourself and now sad to say, myself. We both just
rewarded the poster by responding to it.


- Not necessary, I did not respond to the story,
- I responded to Radioguy's post,
- reporting a blatant troll story.
-
- 73 DL

"Troll Story" - war and peace on the internet ~ RHF

VR2HF K7DAN January 16th 09 01:35 PM

Are hams terrorists?
 
On Jan 16, 10:27*am, RHF wrote:
On Jan 15, 3:51*pm, wrote:

On Jan 15, 5:50 pm, "SC Dxing" wrote:


wrote in message


....


Who, but in hell is going to name their kid "Lucifer" or even
Ramakrishna Lakshminaramayanan.


Someone named their kid Adolf Hitler and it was all over the news.


The only place you can find this bogus story is on Usenet.


Oh, not just usenet. What's funny is so many people have responded to the
false story, including yourself and now sad to say, myself. We both just
rewarded the poster by responding to it.


- Not necessary, I did not respond to the story,
- I responded to Radioguy's post,
- reporting a blatant troll story.
-
- 73 DL

"Troll Story" - war and peace on the internet ~ RHF
*.


Gee, the date on that story was April 1, 2008. Could that be a clue?

Dave[_18_] January 16th 09 02:28 PM

Are hams terrorists?
 
radioguy wrote:

Actually, there are some Doctor Who books written by a guy whose last
name really is Lucifer.

Lofficer is French for Lucifer.

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/lucere

Ian Jackson[_2_] January 16th 09 02:36 PM

Are hams terrorists?
 
In message
,
VR2HF K7DAN writes
On Jan 16, 10:27*am, RHF wrote:
On Jan 15, 3:51*pm, wrote:

On Jan 15, 5:50 pm, "SC Dxing" wrote:


wrote in message


...


Who, but in hell is going to name their kid "Lucifer" or even
Ramakrishna Lakshminaramayanan.


Someone named their kid Adolf Hitler and it was all over the news.


The only place you can find this bogus story is on Usenet.


Oh, not just usenet. What's funny is so many people have responded to the
false story, including yourself and now sad to say, myself. We both just
rewarded the poster by responding to it.


- Not necessary, I did not respond to the story,
- I responded to Radioguy's post,
- reporting a blatant troll story.
-
- 73 DL

"Troll Story" - war and peace on the internet ~ RHF
*.


Gee, the date on that story was April 1, 2008. Could that be a clue?


I'm sure that everyone DID realise what the date was, and were simply
going along with the joke to see how many more of the gullible could be
drawn in before the myth imploded. However, these days, you can never
REALLY be sure that these things aren't in fact true.
--
Ian

Dave[_18_] January 16th 09 02:46 PM

Are hams terrorists?
 
Ian Jackson wrote:
In message
,


.


Gee, the date on that story was April 1, 2008. Could that be a clue?


I'm sure that everyone DID realise what the date was, and were simply
going along with the joke to see how many more of the gullible could be
drawn in before the myth imploded. However, these days, you can never
REALLY be sure that these things aren't in fact true.


For humor to work, it must be based on some level of truth.

RHF January 17th 09 01:09 PM

Are hams terrorists?
 
On Jan 16, 11:31*pm, wrote:
On Jan 15, 3:40*am, radioguy wrote:

Take a look at the excuses the U.S. feds gave.


I don't know if all of these people really were terrorists or not as
the feds claim,


You know. They're not.

We liberals warned you conservatives about this massive overreach of
the government in the "war on terrorism."

It was Muslims first. Then ham radio operators. You'll be next.


Yeah - Beware of Ham-Us who point their . . .
Beam Antennas East Five Times a Day ;;-}} ~ RHF

[email protected] January 19th 09 12:35 AM

Are hams terrorists?
 
On Jan 18, 1:22*pm, RHF wrote:

There are a Billion Muslims in the World and
-if- Only 1% were Terrorist : That would mean
there should be about 10 Million Names on
the List : So it would appear that we only have
10% of the 'potential' Islam-O-Fascist Terrorist
on the List and need to do better.


Good to do the math. I assume that the list is weighted towards
Americans of all stripes and does not draw from the full billion
Muslims.

How many active terrorists are there in the world? I couldn't begin
to guess. I tried to Google it but with no luck?

But, I can't imagine it is anywhere near 10,000,000.

If you count battery-owning ham radio terrorists, the number goes up,
obviously.



[email protected] January 30th 09 05:28 AM

Are hams terrorists?
 
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.p...hl%3Den%26q%3D

[email protected] January 31st 09 05:04 AM

Are hams terrorists?
 
On Jan 29, 11:28 pm, wrote:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.p...wse_thread/thr...




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