The HDTV Transition Is A Bogus Crisis !
- - - Created by a Do Nothing US Congress

Two Weeks Ago I did the On-Line Request for
Two HDTV Converter Box Coupons and got
them with in two weeks. Went to the 'local'
Walmart Store in Sonora, CA and bought a
Magnavox HDTV Converter Box.
-fwiw- This one Walmart Store had and End of
the Aisle Display with with 100+ HDTV Boxes
ready for sale. Plus the 'local' Rite-Aid Store
had the HDTV Converter Boxes too.

The HDTV Box is Installed and Working - brilliant ~ RHF

Magnavox Digital-to-Analog TV Converter Box
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...uct_id=8283870

HDTV CONVERT BOX =Info=
For additional information and to apply for
HDTV "Digital" Converter Box Coupons :
Visit : WWW . DTV 2009 . GOV
* http://www.dtv.gov/
-or- Call : 1-888-DTV-2009
Find out more about whether or not you will be
impacted by the digital TV (DTV) Transition.

Just as easy is to Buy a DVD Recorder with a
Built-in HDTV "Digital" Tuner.
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...ct_id=10059152

What the US Federal Government should have
done was to make the Coupons good for the
purchase of a new HDTV Set with a $100 Value
-or- the purchase of a HDTV Converter Box with a
$40 Value and given US Consumers a "Choice".

~ RHF

On Jan 27, 9:47*am, wrote:
On Jan 26, 11:19 pm, schizobeck wrote:



On Jan 26, 9:19 pm, Wingdingaling6 wrote:

http://www.pcworld.com/article/15836...elay_dtv_trans....
They said that "It would take an act of Congress" to postpone the
digital TV transition, said a board member of the DTV Transition
coalition earlier this month, this before Congress began considering
President Obama's request for a delay. And now, that's exactly how
this saga is playing out.

The U.S. Senate voted at 9:15 PM Monday evening to delay the
switchover from analog to digital television broadcasting, on a bill
sponsored by Senator John Rockefeller (D W-Va). The original date was
set for February 17, 2009, just 22 days from now; under the bill
passed in the Senate, that deadline would postponed until June 12,
2009. The House still needs to vote, but it is expected to pass
similar legislation extending the transition.

The reprieve for analog is a response to concerns that an estimated
6.5 million U.S. households continue to rely on antennas and will go
dark when the switchover to digital occurs. A year ago, the Consumer
Electronics Association estimated that 13.5 million households would
require a converter box.

At the heart of the transition's delay are Issues with the deployment
of funds from the U.S. Commerce Department's coupon program, which
offers households up to two $40 coupons to defray the cost of a
digital TV converter box. The coupon program launched over a year ago;
and 19 million coupons have been redeemed--a redemption rate of around
50 percent.

By the end of 2008, though, the funds allocated for the coupon program
had dried up: Consumers who tried to request a coupon were put on a
waiting list.

"There was a set amount of money-$1.3 billion-for coupons," explains
John Taylor, the aforementioned board member of the DTV Transition
coalition, and vice president of communications at LG Electronics. But
the coupons are good for a limited time only. "As the coupons expire,
the money goes back into the treasury." The money then has to be
reallocated to back new coupons--a process that has taken longer than
expected.

Before the Senate vote for a delay was announced, Taylor expected
another 10 million coupons to be redeemed before the February
transition deadline.

Taylor notes that having a hard date for the transition is important.
"It gives certainty" to the process he says, both for consumers and
for consumer electronics companies. According to the coalition's most
recent survey data, he notes, 97 percent of households know about DTV
today and know that the transition was scheduled to happen in
February.

If you do have a DTV converter box today, you'll have to take action
on the presumed new transition day: You'll have to rescan the channels
on your converter box. "When 600 stations move to a different
frequency that night [of the transition], that affects everyone with a
digital TV and an ATSC tuner," says Taylor.

-----------------------

WASHINGTON (Reuters) – The Senate passed a bill on Monday to delay the
nationwide switch to digital TV signals, giving consumers nearly four
more months to prepare. The transition date would move to June 12 from
February 17 under the bill that was fueled by worries that viewers are
not technically ready for the congressionally-mandated switch-over. It
also would allow consumers with expired coupons, available from the
government to offset the cost of a $40 converter box, to request new
coupons. The government ran out of coupons earlier this month, and
about 2.5 million Americans are on a waiting list for them.

Senate Commerce Chairman John Rockefeller said delaying the TV switch
is the right thing to do because the United States is not yet ready to
make the transition. "The Senate acted responsibly to give the Obama
administration time to attempt to bring order to a mismanaged
process," the West Virginia Democrat said in a statement. Many
lawmakers worry that an estimated 20 million mostly poor, elderly and
rural households are not ready for the switch, which requires owners
of older television sets receiving over-the-air signals to buy a
converter box or subscribe to cable or satellite TV.

Broadcasters are moving from analog to digital signals to give public
safety officials more spectrum, especially useful for emergencies, and
to improve viewing quality. Momentum had been building for a delay
since President Barack Obama backed it earlier this month. The digital
TV bill also would extend the licenses of AT&T Inc and Verizon
Communications, which are waiting for the airwaves to be vacated when
all TVs convert. The companies, which paid $16 billion for the public
airwaves in an auction last year, would get 116 extra days on their
licenses under the proposed legislation. CTIA, the wireless trade
association, has said a delay could hurt confidence in the FCC's
spectrum auctions.

IF YOU BOUGHT THE CONVERTER BOX -- GUESS WHAT, YOU STILL NEED AN
ANTENNA AND AUDIO/VIDEO JACK (color coded yellow, white, etc.)
EVERYTHING YOU NEED IS NOT IN THE BOX. *AS GOMER PYLE WOULD SAY ---
SURPRISE, SURPISE, SURPRISE!

- All the cables I needed were in the box
- on both converters I purchased, and all
- the cables needed were also in the boxes
- of the two converters my mom purchased.
- As far as antennas, in many cases the
- same indoor antenna works fine. In other
- cases, may need a more powerful antenna.

GA,

The HDTV Transition Is A Bogus Crisis !
- - - Created by a Do Nothing US Congress

The Reality is that the 'new' HDTV 'Combo'
Antennas : Make It E-A-S-Y !
+ Outdoor Antenna
+ Amplifier
+ Rotor
+ Set-Top Controller
So Simple a US Congress Person Could Do It !
- - - brilliant ~ RHF

EXAMPLE :
New HDTV Amplified Rotor Antenna* for
HD VHF & UHF Over-the-Air TV Viewing
http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ330303769570
* Cost less than $50 with Free Shipping & Handling
-or-
Try Simple {Low-Tech} "Rabbit-Ears"
RCA ANT111 - Indoor Off-the-Air HDTV Antenna
http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ270331652696
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....=1171058630499
-or-
On-the-Window HDTV Dipole Antenna
RCA Digital Flat Antenna made for HDTV
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...ct_id=10542272

well it looks like the house voted not to delay the switch to digital
TV. The idea of leaving it up to stations if they wanted to do it or
not until June was looney tunes stuff. The date has been set in stone
for years now, just switch and get over it.

On Jan 28, 7:27*am, Dave Bell wrote:
SC Dxing wrote:
From what I read, it's now a CHOICE if stations want to terminate the
analog signal or wait the four months.

- In other words, the delay is all about the broadcasters
- being ready, NOT about the poor, confused public...

D'Oh ! The Broadcasterd are already transmitting in
both Analog and Digital : Thus They Are R-E-A-D-Y
to Turn-Off the Analog and start Saving Power and
Reducing their Operating Costs.

Once Again :
The HDTV Transition Is A Bogus Crisis !
- - - Created by a Do Nothing US Congress

What the US Federal Government should have done
was to make the Coupons good for the purchase of
a new HDTV Set with a $100 Value -or- the purchase
of a HDTV Converter Box with a $40 Value and given
US Consumers a "Choice".

~ RHF

SC Dxing wrote:

well it looks like the house voted not to delay the switch to digital
TV. The idea of leaving it up to stations if they wanted to do it or
not until June was looney tunes stuff. The date has been set in stone
for years now, just switch and get over it.

I just heard something on the radio about a possible do-over vote in the House?

I have two of the cards and got ready to use them. I assumed they would be
good until Feb 19th but no, they expired on Jan 15th and I can't get new
ones and expire date can't be changed. Whose dumb A#? idea was this using an
expiration date..Way to go "Dept of Commerce"


"RHF" wrote in message
...
The HDTV Transition Is A Bogus Crisis !
- - - Created by a Do Nothing US Congress

Two Weeks Ago I did the On-Line Request for
Two HDTV Converter Box Coupons and got
them with in two weeks. Went to the 'local'
Walmart Store in Sonora, CA and bought a
Magnavox HDTV Converter Box.
-fwiw- This one Walmart Store had and End of
the Aisle Display with with 100+ HDTV Boxes
ready for sale. Plus the 'local' Rite-Aid Store
had the HDTV Converter Boxes too.

The HDTV Box is Installed and Working - brilliant ~ RHF

Magnavox Digital-to-Analog TV Converter Box
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...uct_id=8283870

HDTV CONVERT BOX =Info=
For additional information and to apply for
HDTV "Digital" Converter Box Coupons :
Visit : WWW . DTV 2009 . GOV
* http://www.dtv.gov/
-or- Call : 1-888-DTV-2009
Find out more about whether or not you will be
impacted by the digital TV (DTV) Transition.

Just as easy is to Buy a DVD Recorder with a
Built-in HDTV "Digital" Tuner.
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...ct_id=10059152

What the US Federal Government should have
done was to make the Coupons good for the
purchase of a new HDTV Set with a $100 Value
-or- the purchase of a HDTV Converter Box with a
$40 Value and given US Consumers a "Choice".

~ RHF

RHF wrote:
On Jan 28, 11:56 am, dave wrote:
RHF wrote:
The HDTV Transition Is A Bogus Crisis !
- - - Created by a Do Nothing US Congress
Two Weeks Ago I did the On-Line Request for
Two HDTV Converter Box Coupons and got
them with in two weeks. Went to the 'local'
Walmart Store in Sonora, CA and bought a
Magnavox HDTV Converter Box.
-fwiw- This one Walmart Store had and End of
the Aisle Display with with 100+ HDTV Boxes
ready for sale. Plus the 'local' Rite-Aid Store
had the HDTV Converter Boxes too.
The HDTV Box is Installed and Working - brilliant ~ RHF
Magnavox Digital-to-Analog TV Converter Box
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...uct_id=8283870
HDTV CONVERT BOX =Info=
For additional information and to apply for
HDTV "Digital" Converter Box Coupons :
Visit : WWW . DTV 2009 . GOV
*http://www.dtv.gov/
-or- Call : 1-888-DTV-2009
Find out more about whether or not you will be
impacted by the digital TV (DTV) Transition.
Just as easy is to Buy a DVD Recorder with a
Built-in HDTV "Digital" Tuner.
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...ct_id=10059152
What the US Federal Government should have
done was to make the Coupons good for the
purchase of a new HDTV Set with a $100 Value
-or- the purchase of a HDTV Converter Box with a
$40 Value and given US Consumers a "Choice".
~ RHF
- You lie.
- They are not HDTV converters;
- there is no such thing.

dave, Dave. DAVE !
Where Did I use the words "HDTV converters" ?

In the post I quoted above?

You really are losing it.

DirecTV ripps me off every month to the tune of $60.00.If I ever decide
I want a digital converter box just for the heck of it, I will go to a
store and buy one.
cuhulin

dxAce wrote:

Pantheras wrote:

dxAce wrote:
SC Dxing wrote:

well it looks like the house voted not to delay the switch to digital
TV. The idea of leaving it up to stations if they wanted to do it or
not until June was looney tunes stuff. The date has been set in stone
for years now, just switch and get over it.
I just heard something on the radio about a possible do-over vote in the House?


At 2:45 EST the House vote 258 to 168 to delay the conversion. It
required a 2/3rds majority under the conditions of that vote. If the
Dems bring it up for a floor vote a simple majority would do the
job. Any way the Senate voted unanimously in favor of it so there
has to be a joint conference if there is not a floor vote.

It's Obama's first legislative defeat!

Keep those defeats coming!



Well, he was better than the alternative...

that said, tightening CAFE instead of raising fuel taxes and delaying
DTV don't seem to be particularly intelligent decisions.

nate

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cuhulin