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Senate votes to delay DTV transition - RCA TV's owned by blue hairedgrannies celebrate!
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They said that "It would take an act of Congress" to postpone the digital TV transition, said a board member of the DTV Transition coalition earlier this month, this before Congress began considering President Obama's request for a delay. And now, that's exactly how this saga is playing out. The U.S. Senate voted at 9:15 PM Monday evening to delay the switchover from analog to digital television broadcasting, on a bill sponsored by Senator John Rockefeller (D W-Va). The original date was set for February 17, 2009, just 22 days from now; under the bill passed in the Senate, that deadline would postponed until June 12, 2009. The House still needs to vote, but it is expected to pass similar legislation extending the transition. The reprieve for analog is a response to concerns that an estimated 6.5 million U.S. households continue to rely on antennas and will go dark when the switchover to digital occurs. A year ago, the Consumer Electronics Association estimated that 13.5 million households would require a converter box. At the heart of the transition's delay are Issues with the deployment of funds from the U.S. Commerce Department's coupon program, which offers households up to two $40 coupons to defray the cost of a digital TV converter box. The coupon program launched over a year ago; and 19 million coupons have been redeemed--a redemption rate of around 50 percent. By the end of 2008, though, the funds allocated for the coupon program had dried up: Consumers who tried to request a coupon were put on a waiting list. "There was a set amount of money-$1.3 billion-for coupons," explains John Taylor, the aforementioned board member of the DTV Transition coalition, and vice president of communications at LG Electronics. But the coupons are good for a limited time only. "As the coupons expire, the money goes back into the treasury." The money then has to be reallocated to back new coupons--a process that has taken longer than expected. Before the Senate vote for a delay was announced, Taylor expected another 10 million coupons to be redeemed before the February transition deadline. Taylor notes that having a hard date for the transition is important. "It gives certainty" to the process he says, both for consumers and for consumer electronics companies. According to the coalition's most recent survey data, he notes, 97 percent of households know about DTV today and know that the transition was scheduled to happen in February. If you do have a DTV converter box today, you'll have to take action on the presumed new transition day: You'll have to rescan the channels on your converter box. "When 600 stations move to a different frequency that night [of the transition], that affects everyone with a digital TV and an ATSC tuner," says Taylor. ----------------------- WASHINGTON (Reuters) – The Senate passed a bill on Monday to delay the nationwide switch to digital TV signals, giving consumers nearly four more months to prepare. The transition date would move to June 12 from February 17 under the bill that was fueled by worries that viewers are not technically ready for the congressionally-mandated switch-over. It also would allow consumers with expired coupons, available from the government to offset the cost of a $40 converter box, to request new coupons. The government ran out of coupons earlier this month, and about 2.5 million Americans are on a waiting list for them. Senate Commerce Chairman John Rockefeller said delaying the TV switch is the right thing to do because the United States is not yet ready to make the transition. "The Senate acted responsibly to give the Obama administration time to attempt to bring order to a mismanaged process," the West Virginia Democrat said in a statement. Many lawmakers worry that an estimated 20 million mostly poor, elderly and rural households are not ready for the switch, which requires owners of older television sets receiving over-the-air signals to buy a converter box or subscribe to cable or satellite TV. Broadcasters are moving from analog to digital signals to give public safety officials more spectrum, especially useful for emergencies, and to improve viewing quality. Momentum had been building for a delay since President Barack Obama backed it earlier this month. The digital TV bill also would extend the licenses of AT&T Inc and Verizon Communications, which are waiting for the airwaves to be vacated when all TVs convert. The companies, which paid $16 billion for the public airwaves in an auction last year, would get 116 extra days on their licenses under the proposed legislation. CTIA, the wireless trade association, has said a delay could hurt confidence in the FCC's spectrum auctions. |
Senate votes to delay DTV transition - RCA TV's owned by blue haired grannies celebrate!
This is without a doubt the least interesting Usenet LET'S CHARGE THE
BARRICADES, BOYS! REVOLUTIOOOOOOOON! post I have seen in a long time. Oh no! They want to mess with our TEE VEE! Wingdingaling6 hunched over a computer, typing feverishly; Thunder crashed, Wingdingaling6 laughed madly, then wrote: http://www.pcworld.com/article/15836...ransition.html They said that "It would take an act of Congress" to postpone the digital TV transition, said a board member of the DTV Transition coalition earlier this month, this before Congress began considering President Obama's request for a delay. And now, that's exactly how this saga is playing out. The U.S. Senate voted at 9:15 PM Monday evening to delay the switchover from analog to digital television broadcasting, on a bill sponsored by Senator John Rockefeller (D W-Va). The original date was set for February 17, 2009, just 22 days from now; under the bill passed in the Senate, that deadline would postponed until June 12, 2009. The House still needs to vote, but it is expected to pass similar legislation extending the transition. The reprieve for analog is a response to concerns that an estimated 6.5 million U.S. households continue to rely on antennas and will go dark when the switchover to digital occurs. A year ago, the Consumer Electronics Association estimated that 13.5 million households would require a converter box. At the heart of the transition's delay are Issues with the deployment of funds from the U.S. Commerce Department's coupon program, which offers households up to two $40 coupons to defray the cost of a digital TV converter box. The coupon program launched over a year ago; and 19 million coupons have been redeemed--a redemption rate of around 50 percent. By the end of 2008, though, the funds allocated for the coupon program had dried up: Consumers who tried to request a coupon were put on a waiting list. "There was a set amount of money-$1.3 billion-for coupons," explains John Taylor, the aforementioned board member of the DTV Transition coalition, and vice president of communications at LG Electronics. But the coupons are good for a limited time only. "As the coupons expire, the money goes back into the treasury." The money then has to be reallocated to back new coupons--a process that has taken longer than expected. Before the Senate vote for a delay was announced, Taylor expected another 10 million coupons to be redeemed before the February transition deadline. Taylor notes that having a hard date for the transition is important. "It gives certainty" to the process he says, both for consumers and for consumer electronics companies. According to the coalition's most recent survey data, he notes, 97 percent of households know about DTV today and know that the transition was scheduled to happen in February. If you do have a DTV converter box today, you'll have to take action on the presumed new transition day: You'll have to rescan the channels on your converter box. "When 600 stations move to a different frequency that night [of the transition], that affects everyone with a digital TV and an ATSC tuner," says Taylor. ----------------------- WASHINGTON (Reuters) – The Senate passed a bill on Monday to delay the nationwide switch to digital TV signals, giving consumers nearly four more months to prepare. The transition date would move to June 12 from February 17 under the bill that was fueled by worries that viewers are not technically ready for the congressionally-mandated switch-over. It also would allow consumers with expired coupons, available from the government to offset the cost of a $40 converter box, to request new coupons. The government ran out of coupons earlier this month, and about 2.5 million Americans are on a waiting list for them. Senate Commerce Chairman John Rockefeller said delaying the TV switch is the right thing to do because the United States is not yet ready to make the transition. "The Senate acted responsibly to give the Obama administration time to attempt to bring order to a mismanaged process," the West Virginia Democrat said in a statement. Many lawmakers worry that an estimated 20 million mostly poor, elderly and rural households are not ready for the switch, which requires owners of older television sets receiving over-the-air signals to buy a converter box or subscribe to cable or satellite TV. Broadcasters are moving from analog to digital signals to give public safety officials more spectrum, especially useful for emergencies, and to improve viewing quality. Momentum had been building for a delay since President Barack Obama backed it earlier this month. The digital TV bill also would extend the licenses of AT&T Inc and Verizon Communications, which are waiting for the airwaves to be vacated when all TVs convert. The companies, which paid $16 billion for the public airwaves in an auction last year, would get 116 extra days on their licenses under the proposed legislation. CTIA, the wireless trade association, has said a delay could hurt confidence in the FCC's spectrum auctions. -- Zapanaz International Satanic Conspiracy Customer Support Specialist http://joecosby.com/ Flee your warm cushion! Slippery-slap at the window, The lampreys are here! - Cat Haiku, Dunter Powries :: Currently listening to Lieutenant Kijé Suite Op.60 2 Romance, 1933, by Prokofiev, from "Alexander Nevsky & Lieutenant Kijé" |
Senate votes to delay DTV transition - RCA TV's owned by bluehaired grannies celebrate!
Wingdingaling6 wrote:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/15836...ransition.html They said that "It would take an act of Congress" to postpone the digital TV transition, said a board member of the DTV Transition coalition earlier this month, this before Congress began considering President Obama's request for a delay. And now, that's exactly how this saga is playing out. (snippage) Just in time for my senile Aunt who insists she doesn't need a digital converter since she only watches one channel! |
Senate votes to delay DTV transition - RCA TV's owned by bluehaired grannies celebrate!
On Jan 26, 9:19*pm, Wingdingaling6 wrote:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/15836...elay_dtv_trans... They said that "It would take an act of Congress" to postpone the digital TV transition, said a board member of the DTV Transition coalition earlier this month, this before Congress began considering President Obama's request for a delay. And now, that's exactly how this saga is playing out. The U.S. Senate voted at 9:15 PM Monday evening to delay the switchover from analog to digital television broadcasting, on a bill sponsored by Senator John Rockefeller (D W-Va). The original date was set for February 17, 2009, just 22 days from now; under the bill passed in the Senate, that deadline would postponed until June 12, 2009. The House still needs to vote, but it is expected to pass similar legislation extending the transition. The reprieve for analog is a response to concerns that an estimated 6.5 million U.S. households continue to rely on antennas and will go dark when the switchover to digital occurs. A year ago, the Consumer Electronics Association estimated that 13.5 million households would require a converter box. At the heart of the transition's delay are Issues with the deployment of funds from the U.S. Commerce Department's coupon program, which offers households up to two $40 coupons to defray the cost of a digital TV converter box. The coupon program launched over a year ago; and 19 million coupons have been redeemed--a redemption rate of around 50 percent. By the end of 2008, though, the funds allocated for the coupon program had dried up: Consumers who tried to request a coupon were put on a waiting list. "There was a set amount of money-$1.3 billion-for coupons," explains John Taylor, the aforementioned board member of the DTV Transition coalition, and vice president of communications at LG Electronics. But the coupons are good for a limited time only. "As the coupons expire, the money goes back into the treasury." The money then has to be reallocated to back new coupons--a process that has taken longer than expected. Before the Senate vote for a delay was announced, Taylor expected another 10 million coupons to be redeemed before the February transition deadline. Taylor notes that having a hard date for the transition is important. "It gives certainty" to the process he says, both for consumers and for consumer electronics companies. According to the coalition's most recent survey data, he notes, 97 percent of households know about DTV today and know that the transition was scheduled to happen in February. If you do have a DTV converter box today, you'll have to take action on the presumed new transition day: You'll have to rescan the channels on your converter box. "When 600 stations move to a different frequency that night [of the transition], that affects everyone with a digital TV and an ATSC tuner," says Taylor. ----------------------- WASHINGTON (Reuters) – The Senate passed a bill on Monday to delay the nationwide switch to digital TV signals, giving consumers nearly four more months to prepare. The transition date would move to June 12 from February 17 under the bill that was fueled by worries that viewers are not technically ready for the congressionally-mandated switch-over. It also would allow consumers with expired coupons, available from the government to offset the cost of a $40 converter box, to request new coupons. The government ran out of coupons earlier this month, and about 2.5 million Americans are on a waiting list for them. Senate Commerce Chairman John Rockefeller said delaying the TV switch is the right thing to do because the United States is not yet ready to make the transition. "The Senate acted responsibly to give the Obama administration time to attempt to bring order to a mismanaged process," the West Virginia Democrat said in a statement. Many lawmakers worry that an estimated 20 million mostly poor, elderly and rural households are not ready for the switch, which requires owners of older television sets receiving over-the-air signals to buy a converter box or subscribe to cable or satellite TV. Broadcasters are moving from analog to digital signals to give public safety officials more spectrum, especially useful for emergencies, and to improve viewing quality. Momentum had been building for a delay since President Barack Obama backed it earlier this month. The digital TV bill also would extend the licenses of AT&T Inc and Verizon Communications, which are waiting for the airwaves to be vacated when all TVs convert. The companies, which paid $16 billion for the public airwaves in an auction last year, would get 116 extra days on their licenses under the proposed legislation. CTIA, the wireless trade association, has said a delay could hurt confidence in the FCC's spectrum auctions. IF YOU BOUGHT THE CONVERTER BOX -- GUESS WHAT, YOU STILL NEED AN ANTENNA AND AUDIO/VIDEO JACK (color coded yellow, white, etc.) EVERYTHING YOU NEED IS NOT IN THE BOX. AS GOMER PYLE WOULD SAY --- SURPRISE, SURPISE, SURPRISE! |
Senate votes to delay DTV transition - RCA TV's owned by blue haired grannies celebrate!
Fire, Hell, Damnation.
TV wrought upon the Dumb Nation. BLOW UP YOUR TV! "schizobeck" wrote in message ... On Jan 26, 9:19 pm, Wingdingaling6 wrote: http://www.pcworld.com/article/15836...elay_dtv_trans... They said that "It would take an act of Congress" to postpone the digital TV transition, said a board member of the DTV Transition coalition earlier this month, this before Congress began considering President Obama's request for a delay. And now, that's exactly how this saga is playing out. The U.S. Senate voted at 9:15 PM Monday evening to delay the switchover from analog to digital television broadcasting, on a bill sponsored by Senator John Rockefeller (D W-Va). The original date was set for February 17, 2009, just 22 days from now; under the bill passed in the Senate, that deadline would postponed until June 12, 2009. The House still needs to vote, but it is expected to pass similar legislation extending the transition. The reprieve for analog is a response to concerns that an estimated 6.5 million U.S. households continue to rely on antennas and will go dark when the switchover to digital occurs. A year ago, the Consumer Electronics Association estimated that 13.5 million households would require a converter box. At the heart of the transition's delay are Issues with the deployment of funds from the U.S. Commerce Department's coupon program, which offers households up to two $40 coupons to defray the cost of a digital TV converter box. The coupon program launched over a year ago; and 19 million coupons have been redeemed--a redemption rate of around 50 percent. By the end of 2008, though, the funds allocated for the coupon program had dried up: Consumers who tried to request a coupon were put on a waiting list. "There was a set amount of money-$1.3 billion-for coupons," explains John Taylor, the aforementioned board member of the DTV Transition coalition, and vice president of communications at LG Electronics. But the coupons are good for a limited time only. "As the coupons expire, the money goes back into the treasury." The money then has to be reallocated to back new coupons--a process that has taken longer than expected. Before the Senate vote for a delay was announced, Taylor expected another 10 million coupons to be redeemed before the February transition deadline. Taylor notes that having a hard date for the transition is important. "It gives certainty" to the process he says, both for consumers and for consumer electronics companies. According to the coalition's most recent survey data, he notes, 97 percent of households know about DTV today and know that the transition was scheduled to happen in February. If you do have a DTV converter box today, you'll have to take action on the presumed new transition day: You'll have to rescan the channels on your converter box. "When 600 stations move to a different frequency that night [of the transition], that affects everyone with a digital TV and an ATSC tuner," says Taylor. ----------------------- WASHINGTON (Reuters) – The Senate passed a bill on Monday to delay the nationwide switch to digital TV signals, giving consumers nearly four more months to prepare. The transition date would move to June 12 from February 17 under the bill that was fueled by worries that viewers are not technically ready for the congressionally-mandated switch-over. It also would allow consumers with expired coupons, available from the government to offset the cost of a $40 converter box, to request new coupons. The government ran out of coupons earlier this month, and about 2.5 million Americans are on a waiting list for them. Senate Commerce Chairman John Rockefeller said delaying the TV switch is the right thing to do because the United States is not yet ready to make the transition. "The Senate acted responsibly to give the Obama administration time to attempt to bring order to a mismanaged process," the West Virginia Democrat said in a statement. Many lawmakers worry that an estimated 20 million mostly poor, elderly and rural households are not ready for the switch, which requires owners of older television sets receiving over-the-air signals to buy a converter box or subscribe to cable or satellite TV. Broadcasters are moving from analog to digital signals to give public safety officials more spectrum, especially useful for emergencies, and to improve viewing quality. Momentum had been building for a delay since President Barack Obama backed it earlier this month. The digital TV bill also would extend the licenses of AT&T Inc and Verizon Communications, which are waiting for the airwaves to be vacated when all TVs convert. The companies, which paid $16 billion for the public airwaves in an auction last year, would get 116 extra days on their licenses under the proposed legislation. CTIA, the wireless trade association, has said a delay could hurt confidence in the FCC's spectrum auctions. IF YOU BOUGHT THE CONVERTER BOX -- GUESS WHAT, YOU STILL NEED AN ANTENNA AND AUDIO/VIDEO JACK (color coded yellow, white, etc.) EVERYTHING YOU NEED IS NOT IN THE BOX. AS GOMER PYLE WOULD SAY --- SURPRISE, SURPISE, SURPRISE! |
Senate votes to delay DTV transition - RCA TV's owned by bluehaired grannies celebrate!
On Jan 26, 11:19 pm, schizobeck wrote:
On Jan 26, 9:19 pm, Wingdingaling6 wrote: http://www.pcworld.com/article/15836...elay_dtv_trans... They said that "It would take an act of Congress" to postpone the digital TV transition, said a board member of the DTV Transition coalition earlier this month, this before Congress began considering President Obama's request for a delay. And now, that's exactly how this saga is playing out. The U.S. Senate voted at 9:15 PM Monday evening to delay the switchover from analog to digital television broadcasting, on a bill sponsored by Senator John Rockefeller (D W-Va). The original date was set for February 17, 2009, just 22 days from now; under the bill passed in the Senate, that deadline would postponed until June 12, 2009. The House still needs to vote, but it is expected to pass similar legislation extending the transition. The reprieve for analog is a response to concerns that an estimated 6.5 million U.S. households continue to rely on antennas and will go dark when the switchover to digital occurs. A year ago, the Consumer Electronics Association estimated that 13.5 million households would require a converter box. At the heart of the transition's delay are Issues with the deployment of funds from the U.S. Commerce Department's coupon program, which offers households up to two $40 coupons to defray the cost of a digital TV converter box. The coupon program launched over a year ago; and 19 million coupons have been redeemed--a redemption rate of around 50 percent. By the end of 2008, though, the funds allocated for the coupon program had dried up: Consumers who tried to request a coupon were put on a waiting list. "There was a set amount of money-$1.3 billion-for coupons," explains John Taylor, the aforementioned board member of the DTV Transition coalition, and vice president of communications at LG Electronics. But the coupons are good for a limited time only. "As the coupons expire, the money goes back into the treasury." The money then has to be reallocated to back new coupons--a process that has taken longer than expected. Before the Senate vote for a delay was announced, Taylor expected another 10 million coupons to be redeemed before the February transition deadline. Taylor notes that having a hard date for the transition is important. "It gives certainty" to the process he says, both for consumers and for consumer electronics companies. According to the coalition's most recent survey data, he notes, 97 percent of households know about DTV today and know that the transition was scheduled to happen in February. If you do have a DTV converter box today, you'll have to take action on the presumed new transition day: You'll have to rescan the channels on your converter box. "When 600 stations move to a different frequency that night [of the transition], that affects everyone with a digital TV and an ATSC tuner," says Taylor. ----------------------- WASHINGTON (Reuters) – The Senate passed a bill on Monday to delay the nationwide switch to digital TV signals, giving consumers nearly four more months to prepare. The transition date would move to June 12 from February 17 under the bill that was fueled by worries that viewers are not technically ready for the congressionally-mandated switch-over. It also would allow consumers with expired coupons, available from the government to offset the cost of a $40 converter box, to request new coupons. The government ran out of coupons earlier this month, and about 2.5 million Americans are on a waiting list for them. Senate Commerce Chairman John Rockefeller said delaying the TV switch is the right thing to do because the United States is not yet ready to make the transition. "The Senate acted responsibly to give the Obama administration time to attempt to bring order to a mismanaged process," the West Virginia Democrat said in a statement. Many lawmakers worry that an estimated 20 million mostly poor, elderly and rural households are not ready for the switch, which requires owners of older television sets receiving over-the-air signals to buy a converter box or subscribe to cable or satellite TV. Broadcasters are moving from analog to digital signals to give public safety officials more spectrum, especially useful for emergencies, and to improve viewing quality. Momentum had been building for a delay since President Barack Obama backed it earlier this month. The digital TV bill also would extend the licenses of AT&T Inc and Verizon Communications, which are waiting for the airwaves to be vacated when all TVs convert. The companies, which paid $16 billion for the public airwaves in an auction last year, would get 116 extra days on their licenses under the proposed legislation. CTIA, the wireless trade association, has said a delay could hurt confidence in the FCC's spectrum auctions. IF YOU BOUGHT THE CONVERTER BOX -- GUESS WHAT, YOU STILL NEED AN ANTENNA AND AUDIO/VIDEO JACK (color coded yellow, white, etc.) EVERYTHING YOU NEED IS NOT IN THE BOX. AS GOMER PYLE WOULD SAY --- SURPRISE, SURPISE, SURPRISE! All the cables I needed were in the box on both converters I purchased, and all the cables needed were also in the boxes of the two converters my mom purchased. As far as antennas, in many cases the same indoor antenna works fine. In other cases, may need a more powerful antenna. |
Senate votes to delay DTV transition - RCA TV's owned by bluehaired grannies celebrate!
schizobeck wrote:
IF YOU BOUGHT THE CONVERTER BOX -- GUESS WHAT, YOU STILL NEED AN ANTENNA AND AUDIO/VIDEO JACK (color coded yellow, white, etc.) EVERYTHING YOU NEED IS NOT IN THE BOX. AS GOMER PYLE WOULD SAY --- SURPRISE, SURPISE, SURPRISE! Huh? I would respectfully ask what you are talking about. Why would they "STILL NEED AN ANTENNA"? The -only- reason they would need a converter box in the first place is because they are already getting their TV signal from an existing antenna. If they already have it (and they HAVE to), why would you say they need to get an antenna? And no, in most cases, they will not NEED the color coded cables as the large majority of the converters -also- have an RF output (Ch. 3 or 4) and many (but not all) converters include the color coded and/or RF output cable(s). |
Senate votes to delay DTV transition - RCA TV's owned by blue haired grannies celebrate!
Broadcasters are moving from analog to digital signals to give public safety officials more spectrum, especially useful for emergencies, and to improve viewing quality. Momentum had been building for a delay since President Barack Obama backed it earlier this month. The digital TV bill also would extend the licenses of AT&T Inc and Verizon Communications, which are waiting for the airwaves to be vacated when all TVs convert. The companies, which paid $16 billion for the public airwaves in an auction last year, would get 116 extra days on their licenses under the proposed legislation. CTIA, the wireless trade association, has said a delay could hurt confidence in the FCC's spectrum auctions. IF YOU BOUGHT THE CONVERTER BOX -- GUESS WHAT, YOU STILL NEED AN ANTENNA AND AUDIO/VIDEO JACK (color coded yellow, white, etc.) EVERYTHING YOU NEED IS NOT IN THE BOX. AS GOMER PYLE WOULD SAY --- SURPRISE, SURPISE, SURPRISE! My RCA converter had everything EXCEPT one of those cheapie 300 ohm twin-lead (from the rabbit ears) to 75 ohm transformers. Fortunately, the TV already had one with it, but I'd have been SOL if it were for my other analog set. Also, I still have one of the converter box "coupons" or glorified credit card which the program did a huge FUBAR in having them with a mere 90 day life. That was by far their biggest screw-up. Hopefully the lawmakers will allow the expirations to be extended. The picture is better, my TV has closed caption for the first time, but the reception ain't so consistent. Looks like a pre-amp for it may be in order. |
Senate votes to delay DTV transition - RCA TV's owned by bluehaired grannies celebrate!
From what I read, it's now a CHOICE if stations want to terminate the
analog signal or wait the four months. More confusion. Just get it over with, it's coming. |
Senate votes to delay DTV transition - RCA TV's owned by bluehaired grannies celebrate!
SC Dxing wrote:
From what I read, it's now a CHOICE if stations want to terminate the analog signal or wait the four months. In other words, the delay is all about the broadcasters being ready, NOT about the poor, confused public... |
(OT) : The HDTV Transition Is A Bogus Crisis !
The HDTV Transition Is A Bogus Crisis !
- - - Created by a Do Nothing US Congress Two Weeks Ago I did the On-Line Request for Two HDTV Converter Box Coupons and got them with in two weeks. Went to the 'local' Walmart Store in Sonora, CA and bought a Magnavox HDTV Converter Box. -fwiw- This one Walmart Store had and End of the Aisle Display with with 100+ HDTV Boxes ready for sale. Plus the 'local' Rite-Aid Store had the HDTV Converter Boxes too. The HDTV Box is Installed and Working - brilliant ~ RHF Magnavox Digital-to-Analog TV Converter Box http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...uct_id=8283870 HDTV CONVERT BOX =Info= For additional information and to apply for HDTV "Digital" Converter Box Coupons : Visit : WWW . DTV 2009 . GOV * http://www.dtv.gov/ -or- Call : 1-888-DTV-2009 Find out more about whether or not you will be impacted by the digital TV (DTV) Transition. Just as easy is to Buy a DVD Recorder with a Built-in HDTV "Digital" Tuner. http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...ct_id=10059152 What the US Federal Government should have done was to make the Coupons good for the purchase of a new HDTV Set with a $100 Value -or- the purchase of a HDTV Converter Box with a $40 Value and given US Consumers a "Choice". ~ RHF |
The HDTV Transition Is A Bogus Crisis ! - HDTV 'Combo' Antennas MakeIt E-A-S-Y !
On Jan 27, 9:47*am, wrote:
On Jan 26, 11:19 pm, schizobeck wrote: On Jan 26, 9:19 pm, Wingdingaling6 wrote: http://www.pcworld.com/article/15836...elay_dtv_trans.... They said that "It would take an act of Congress" to postpone the digital TV transition, said a board member of the DTV Transition coalition earlier this month, this before Congress began considering President Obama's request for a delay. And now, that's exactly how this saga is playing out. The U.S. Senate voted at 9:15 PM Monday evening to delay the switchover from analog to digital television broadcasting, on a bill sponsored by Senator John Rockefeller (D W-Va). The original date was set for February 17, 2009, just 22 days from now; under the bill passed in the Senate, that deadline would postponed until June 12, 2009. The House still needs to vote, but it is expected to pass similar legislation extending the transition. The reprieve for analog is a response to concerns that an estimated 6.5 million U.S. households continue to rely on antennas and will go dark when the switchover to digital occurs. A year ago, the Consumer Electronics Association estimated that 13.5 million households would require a converter box. At the heart of the transition's delay are Issues with the deployment of funds from the U.S. Commerce Department's coupon program, which offers households up to two $40 coupons to defray the cost of a digital TV converter box. The coupon program launched over a year ago; and 19 million coupons have been redeemed--a redemption rate of around 50 percent. By the end of 2008, though, the funds allocated for the coupon program had dried up: Consumers who tried to request a coupon were put on a waiting list. "There was a set amount of money-$1.3 billion-for coupons," explains John Taylor, the aforementioned board member of the DTV Transition coalition, and vice president of communications at LG Electronics. But the coupons are good for a limited time only. "As the coupons expire, the money goes back into the treasury." The money then has to be reallocated to back new coupons--a process that has taken longer than expected. Before the Senate vote for a delay was announced, Taylor expected another 10 million coupons to be redeemed before the February transition deadline. Taylor notes that having a hard date for the transition is important. "It gives certainty" to the process he says, both for consumers and for consumer electronics companies. According to the coalition's most recent survey data, he notes, 97 percent of households know about DTV today and know that the transition was scheduled to happen in February. If you do have a DTV converter box today, you'll have to take action on the presumed new transition day: You'll have to rescan the channels on your converter box. "When 600 stations move to a different frequency that night [of the transition], that affects everyone with a digital TV and an ATSC tuner," says Taylor. ----------------------- WASHINGTON (Reuters) – The Senate passed a bill on Monday to delay the nationwide switch to digital TV signals, giving consumers nearly four more months to prepare. The transition date would move to June 12 from February 17 under the bill that was fueled by worries that viewers are not technically ready for the congressionally-mandated switch-over. It also would allow consumers with expired coupons, available from the government to offset the cost of a $40 converter box, to request new coupons. The government ran out of coupons earlier this month, and about 2.5 million Americans are on a waiting list for them. Senate Commerce Chairman John Rockefeller said delaying the TV switch is the right thing to do because the United States is not yet ready to make the transition. "The Senate acted responsibly to give the Obama administration time to attempt to bring order to a mismanaged process," the West Virginia Democrat said in a statement. Many lawmakers worry that an estimated 20 million mostly poor, elderly and rural households are not ready for the switch, which requires owners of older television sets receiving over-the-air signals to buy a converter box or subscribe to cable or satellite TV. Broadcasters are moving from analog to digital signals to give public safety officials more spectrum, especially useful for emergencies, and to improve viewing quality. Momentum had been building for a delay since President Barack Obama backed it earlier this month. The digital TV bill also would extend the licenses of AT&T Inc and Verizon Communications, which are waiting for the airwaves to be vacated when all TVs convert. The companies, which paid $16 billion for the public airwaves in an auction last year, would get 116 extra days on their licenses under the proposed legislation. CTIA, the wireless trade association, has said a delay could hurt confidence in the FCC's spectrum auctions. IF YOU BOUGHT THE CONVERTER BOX -- GUESS WHAT, YOU STILL NEED AN ANTENNA AND AUDIO/VIDEO JACK (color coded yellow, white, etc.) EVERYTHING YOU NEED IS NOT IN THE BOX. *AS GOMER PYLE WOULD SAY --- SURPRISE, SURPISE, SURPRISE! - All the cables I needed were in the box - on both converters I purchased, and all - the cables needed were also in the boxes - of the two converters my mom purchased. - As far as antennas, in many cases the - same indoor antenna works fine. In other - cases, may need a more powerful antenna. GA, The HDTV Transition Is A Bogus Crisis ! - - - Created by a Do Nothing US Congress The Reality is that the 'new' HDTV 'Combo' Antennas : Make It E-A-S-Y ! + Outdoor Antenna + Amplifier + Rotor + Set-Top Controller So Simple a US Congress Person Could Do It ! - - - brilliant ~ RHF EXAMPLE : New HDTV Amplified Rotor Antenna* for HD VHF & UHF Over-the-Air TV Viewing http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ330303769570 * Cost less than $50 with Free Shipping & Handling -or- Try Simple {Low-Tech} "Rabbit-Ears" RCA ANT111 - Indoor Off-the-Air HDTV Antenna http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ270331652696 http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....=1171058630499 -or- On-the-Window HDTV Dipole Antenna RCA Digital Flat Antenna made for HDTV http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...ct_id=10542272 |
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well it looks like the house voted not to delay the switch to digital
TV. The idea of leaving it up to stations if they wanted to do it or not until June was looney tunes stuff. The date has been set in stone for years now, just switch and get over it. |
A Do Nothing US Congress - Created The HDTV Transition Is A BogusCrisis !
On Jan 28, 7:27*am, Dave Bell wrote:
SC Dxing wrote: From what I read, it's now a CHOICE if stations want to terminate the analog signal or wait the four months. - In other words, the delay is all about the broadcasters - being ready, NOT about the poor, confused public... D'Oh ! The Broadcasterd are already transmitting in both Analog and Digital : Thus They Are R-E-A-D-Y to Turn-Off the Analog and start Saving Power and Reducing their Operating Costs. Once Again : The HDTV Transition Is A Bogus Crisis ! - - - Created by a Do Nothing US Congress What the US Federal Government should have done was to make the Coupons good for the purchase of a new HDTV Set with a $100 Value -or- the purchase of a HDTV Converter Box with a $40 Value and given US Consumers a "Choice". ~ RHF |
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SC Dxing wrote: well it looks like the house voted not to delay the switch to digital TV. The idea of leaving it up to stations if they wanted to do it or not until June was looney tunes stuff. The date has been set in stone for years now, just switch and get over it. I just heard something on the radio about a possible do-over vote in the House? |
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I have two of the cards and got ready to use them. I assumed they would be
good until Feb 19th but no, they expired on Jan 15th and I can't get new ones and expire date can't be changed. Whose dumb A#? idea was this using an expiration date..Way to go "Dept of Commerce" "RHF" wrote in message ... The HDTV Transition Is A Bogus Crisis ! - - - Created by a Do Nothing US Congress Two Weeks Ago I did the On-Line Request for Two HDTV Converter Box Coupons and got them with in two weeks. Went to the 'local' Walmart Store in Sonora, CA and bought a Magnavox HDTV Converter Box. -fwiw- This one Walmart Store had and End of the Aisle Display with with 100+ HDTV Boxes ready for sale. Plus the 'local' Rite-Aid Store had the HDTV Converter Boxes too. The HDTV Box is Installed and Working - brilliant ~ RHF Magnavox Digital-to-Analog TV Converter Box http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...uct_id=8283870 HDTV CONVERT BOX =Info= For additional information and to apply for HDTV "Digital" Converter Box Coupons : Visit : WWW . DTV 2009 . GOV * http://www.dtv.gov/ -or- Call : 1-888-DTV-2009 Find out more about whether or not you will be impacted by the digital TV (DTV) Transition. Just as easy is to Buy a DVD Recorder with a Built-in HDTV "Digital" Tuner. http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...ct_id=10059152 What the US Federal Government should have done was to make the Coupons good for the purchase of a new HDTV Set with a $100 Value -or- the purchase of a HDTV Converter Box with a $40 Value and given US Consumers a "Choice". ~ RHF |
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RHF wrote:
On Jan 28, 11:56 am, dave wrote: RHF wrote: The HDTV Transition Is A Bogus Crisis ! - - - Created by a Do Nothing US Congress Two Weeks Ago I did the On-Line Request for Two HDTV Converter Box Coupons and got them with in two weeks. Went to the 'local' Walmart Store in Sonora, CA and bought a Magnavox HDTV Converter Box. -fwiw- This one Walmart Store had and End of the Aisle Display with with 100+ HDTV Boxes ready for sale. Plus the 'local' Rite-Aid Store had the HDTV Converter Boxes too. The HDTV Box is Installed and Working - brilliant ~ RHF Magnavox Digital-to-Analog TV Converter Box http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...uct_id=8283870 HDTV CONVERT BOX =Info= For additional information and to apply for HDTV "Digital" Converter Box Coupons : Visit : WWW . DTV 2009 . GOV *http://www.dtv.gov/ -or- Call : 1-888-DTV-2009 Find out more about whether or not you will be impacted by the digital TV (DTV) Transition. Just as easy is to Buy a DVD Recorder with a Built-in HDTV "Digital" Tuner. http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...ct_id=10059152 What the US Federal Government should have done was to make the Coupons good for the purchase of a new HDTV Set with a $100 Value -or- the purchase of a HDTV Converter Box with a $40 Value and given US Consumers a "Choice". ~ RHF - You lie. - They are not HDTV converters; - there is no such thing. dave, Dave. DAVE ! Where Did I use the words "HDTV converters" ? In the post I quoted above? You really are losing it. |
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DirecTV ripps me off every month to the tune of $60.00.If I ever decide
I want a digital converter box just for the heck of it, I will go to a store and buy one. cuhulin |
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dxAce wrote:
Pantheras wrote: dxAce wrote: SC Dxing wrote: well it looks like the house voted not to delay the switch to digital TV. The idea of leaving it up to stations if they wanted to do it or not until June was looney tunes stuff. The date has been set in stone for years now, just switch and get over it. I just heard something on the radio about a possible do-over vote in the House? At 2:45 EST the House vote 258 to 168 to delay the conversion. It required a 2/3rds majority under the conditions of that vote. If the Dems bring it up for a floor vote a simple majority would do the job. Any way the Senate voted unanimously in favor of it so there has to be a joint conference if there is not a floor vote. It's Obama's first legislative defeat! Keep those defeats coming! Well, he was better than the alternative... that said, tightening CAFE instead of raising fuel taxes and delaying DTV don't seem to be particularly intelligent decisions. nate -- replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply. http://members.cox.net/njnagel |
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Now I need to send an email reminder to myself.
Daytona 500. cuhulin |
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"Nate Nagel" wrote in message ... dxAce wrote: Pantheras wrote: dxAce wrote: SC Dxing wrote: well it looks like the house voted not to delay the switch to digital TV. The idea of leaving it up to stations if they wanted to do it or not until June was looney tunes stuff. The date has been set in stone for years now, just switch and get over it. I just heard something on the radio about a possible do-over vote in the House? At 2:45 EST the House vote 258 to 168 to delay the conversion. It required a 2/3rds majority under the conditions of that vote. If the Dems bring it up for a floor vote a simple majority would do the job. Any way the Senate voted unanimously in favor of it so there has to be a joint conference if there is not a floor vote. It's Obama's first legislative defeat! Keep those defeats coming! Well, he was better than the alternative... that said, tightening CAFE instead of raising fuel taxes and delaying DTV don't seem to be particularly intelligent decisions. The DTV thing is a tempest in a teapot. In the greater scheme of things it's only slightly more important than the "Freedom Fries" imbroglio. I predict that the changeover will not be fully implemented until the first quarter of 2010 - at least. I said as much in 2005. http://groups.google.com/group/alt.s...abf6e0b1?hl=en And if I wasn't skeered of revealing my slave name I could show you that I said it in 1997 - IN PRINT - when the whole damn thing was announced. |
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dxAce wrote: SC Dxing wrote: well it looks like the house voted not to delay the switch to digital TV. The idea of leaving it up to stations if they wanted to do it or not until June was looney tunes stuff. The date has been set in stone for years now, just switch and get over it. I just heard something on the radio about a possible do-over vote in the House? It the obama leadership thing where you do things two or more times. So far we have the repeated oath of office, repeated economic stimulus bills, a catch and release program for terrorists so we can fight them again. With leadership like this why not vote on bills again. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
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Nate Nagel wrote: dxAce wrote: Pantheras wrote: dxAce wrote: SC Dxing wrote: well it looks like the house voted not to delay the switch to digital TV. The idea of leaving it up to stations if they wanted to do it or not until June was looney tunes stuff. The date has been set in stone for years now, just switch and get over it. I just heard something on the radio about a possible do-over vote in the House? At 2:45 EST the House vote 258 to 168 to delay the conversion. It required a 2/3rds majority under the conditions of that vote. If the Dems bring it up for a floor vote a simple majority would do the job. Any way the Senate voted unanimously in favor of it so there has to be a joint conference if there is not a floor vote. It's Obama's first legislative defeat! Keep those defeats coming! Well, he was better than the alternative... that said, tightening CAFE instead of raising fuel taxes and delaying DTV don't seem to be particularly intelligent decisions. What a shocking surprise! Expect more dumb decisions, you won't be disappointed. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
Senate votes to delay DTV transition - RCA TV's owned by bluehaired grannies celebrate!
On Jan 26, 10:19*pm, Wingdingaling6 wrote:
The U.S. Senate voted at 9:15 PM Monday evening to delay the switchover from analog to digital television broadcasting, on a bill sponsored by Senator John Rockefeller (D W-Va). The original date was set for February 17, 2009, just 22 days from now; under the bill passed in the Senate, that deadline would postponed until June 12, 2009. The House still needs to vote, but it is expected to pass similar legislation extending the transition. Oh that's just ****in' great. 6 more months of the talking heads on the local yokel stations admonishing people 20 times a day in language geared to the average 70 iq welfare queen about how their tv will become a white noise generator if they don't get deyseff a magic box. |
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On Jan 28, 2:18*pm, dxAce wrote:
I just heard something on the radio about a possible do-over vote in the House? That wouldn't surprise me. But this change is coming, let's just get it over with. |
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On Jan 28, 3:18*pm, dxAce wrote:
Keep those defeats coming! Not so fast... The senate repassed the delay of it last night and now the House is going to vote on it AGAIN today under normal house rules. God, won't this ever end?? This delay won't do a thing. WASHINGTON (AP) - White House press secretary Robert Gibbs says President Barack Obama will sign a bill to give consumers more time to get ready for the switch from analog to digital television broadcasts. The switch under current law is set for Feb. 17. The Senate earlier this week passed the bill to delay that until June, but it failed in the House under a procedure that required a two- thirds vote for passage. The Senate passed the bill again Thursday night, and the House plans to take another run at it next week under regular procedures. That means a simple majority vote is required. Gibbs said Obama will sign the bill because he wants more time to ensure that people don't lose their television signals. |
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SC Dxing wrote: On Jan 28, 3:18 pm, dxAce wrote: Keep those defeats coming! Not so fast... The senate repassed the delay of it last night and now the House is going to vote on it AGAIN today under normal house rules. God, won't this ever end?? This delay won't do a thing. WASHINGTON (AP) - White House press secretary Robert Gibbs says President Barack Obama will sign a bill to give consumers more time to get ready for the switch from analog to digital television broadcasts. The switch under current law is set for Feb. 17. The Senate earlier this week passed the bill to delay that until June, but it failed in the House under a procedure that required a two- thirds vote for passage. The Senate passed the bill again Thursday night, and the House plans to take another run at it next week under regular procedures. That means a simple majority vote is required. Gibbs said Obama will sign the bill because he wants more time to ensure that people don't lose their television signals. Boy Barry to the rescue! |
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On Jan 30, 11:34*am, Billy Burpelson wrote:
poppa42 wrote: I have two of the cards and got ready to use them. I assumed they would be good until Feb 19th but no, they expired on Jan 15th and I can't get new ones and expire date can't be changed. Whose dumb A#? idea was this using an expiration date..Way to go "Dept of Commerce" How about "Way to go, poppa42"? I would respectfully submit that it was *WIDELY* publicized that the cards are good for 90 days FROM THE DATE THE GOVERNMENT SENDS THEM. Just because you "assumed" doesn't make it so, nor is it a reason to blame others for -your- mistake. * :-( D'Oh ! -if- By-Law the US Congress Extends the Analog TV Turn-Off Date : Then By-Law that same US Congress should 'automaticially' Extend the Good-to-Date of the HDTV Converter Box Cards. - - - Brilliant ! - idtars ~ RHF |
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And I resent the hell out of all you who are attacking me for being
one! Yes I am a conservative small government Republican. And yes I have always voted to place in power individuals who insured that you, the hard working taxpayer who paid for my existence, never received the gravy train of benefits and job security I received for 32 years as a worthless government bureaucRAT with a lazy sit down do nothing job while you lemmings destroyed your health by working long hard hours to pay for my salary and benefits. And no I will not apologize for asking you to pony up $700,000,000,000 to rescue my generous government pension which my 401k stock portfolio is tied into. And yes I am a fervent free market survival of the fittest capitalist. But this taxpayer bailout is different because it involves me and my stock portfolio. And no that doesn't make me a hypocrite because I am just looking out for me and my family. All my adult life me and my family have enjoyed a very comfortable lifestyle courtesy of you the taxpayer and we deserve to continue to do so. Enough said. Case closed. I win. As always I'm just another plain old Mister-Know-It-All ! Retired, Healthy and Free ! -Hey- That's Me :o) ~ RHF Click on my profile to find out more about me, aren't I something! Roy |
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, SC Dxing wrote: On Jan 28, 3:18*pm, dxAce wrote: Keep those defeats coming! Not so fast... The senate repassed the delay of it last night and now the House is going to vote on it AGAIN today under normal house rules. God, won't this ever end?? This delay won't do a thing. WASHINGTON (AP) - White House press secretary Robert Gibbs says President Barack Obama will sign a bill to give consumers more time to get ready for the switch from analog to digital television broadcasts. The switch under current law is set for Feb. 17. The Senate earlier this week passed the bill to delay that until June, but it failed in the House under a procedure that required a two- thirds vote for passage. The Senate passed the bill again Thursday night, and the House plans to take another run at it next week under regular procedures. That means a simple majority vote is required. Gibbs said Obama will sign the bill because he wants more time to ensure that people don't lose their television signals. The obama administration will be know as the do over administration. If it is worth doing, it's worth doing again, just to be sure. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
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Telamon wrote:
The obama administration will be know as the do over administration. If it is worth doing, it's worth doing again, just to be sure. That's not helpful. Read about how Hastert threatened people to get the ****ty Medicare Prescription Drug giveaway passed before you accuse others of questionable legislative practices. People who live in glass houses shouldn't. |
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dave wrote: Telamon wrote: The obama administration will be know as the do over administration. If it is worth doing, it's worth doing again, just to be sure. That's not helpful. Read about how Hastert threatened people to get the ****ty Medicare Prescription Drug giveaway passed before you accuse others of questionable legislative practices. People who live in glass houses shouldn't. People that don't know crap should not be president. The obomination does not know jack as evidenced by his screw ups and do overs. If you have a firm belief system and plan for what you want to accomplish this does not happen. Now this unworkable liberal think virus he brought to Washington has infected congress. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
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Telamon wrote:
People that don't know crap should not be president. The obomination does not know jack as evidenced by his screw ups and do overs. If you have a firm belief system and plan for what you want to accomplish this does not happen. Now this unworkable liberal think virus he brought to Washington has infected congress. He's going to get exactly what he wants. That should frighten you more than any imagined incompetence. |
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dave wrote: Telamon wrote: People that don't know crap should not be president. The obomination does not know jack as evidenced by his screw ups and do overs. If you have a firm belief system and plan for what you want to accomplish this does not happen. Now this unworkable liberal think virus he brought to Washington has infected congress. He's going to get exactly what he wants. That should frighten you more than any imagined incompetence. Everyone should be afraid of his incompetence and corruption. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
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In article telamon_spamshield-6BD758.17552202022009
@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net, lid says... In article , dave wrote: Telamon wrote: People that don't know crap should not be president. The obomination does not know jack as evidenced by his screw ups and do overs. If you have a firm belief system and plan for what you want to accomplish this does not happen. Now this unworkable liberal think virus he brought to Washington has infected congress. He's going to get exactly what he wants. That should frighten you more than any imagined incompetence. Everyone should be afraid of his incompetence and corruption. So far, he's shown neither, but reality never bothers you, does it, Telemundo? -- BDK BDK Klan leader? kOOk Magnet! NJJ CLUB #1 Shillmaster |
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On Feb 3, 9:18*am, BDK wrote:
In article telamon_spamshield-6BD758.17552202022009 @newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net, says... In article , *dave wrote: Telamon wrote: People that don't know crap should not be president. The obomination does not know jack as evidenced by his screw ups and do overs. If you have a firm belief system and plan for what you want to accomplish this does not happen. Now this unworkable liberal think virus he brought to Washington has infected congress. He's going to get exactly what he wants. *That should frighten you more than any imagined incompetence. - - Everyone should be afraid of his incompetence and corruption. - So far, he's shown neither, - but reality never bothers you, does it, - Telemundo? - -- - BDK - - BDK Klan leader? - kOOk Magnet! - NJJ CLUB #1 - Shillmaster (OT) : The Kentucky Ice Storm Disaster -MIA- President Obama ? and FEMA ! http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...08cf05c26c97a5 |
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RHF hunched over a computer, typing feverishly;
Thunder crashed, RHF laughed madly, then wrote: On Feb 3, 9:18*am, BDK wrote: In article telamon_spamshield-6BD758.17552202022009 @newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net, says... In article , *dave wrote: Telamon wrote: People that don't know crap should not be president. The obomination does not know jack as evidenced by his screw ups and do overs. If you have a firm belief system and plan for what you want to accomplish this does not happen. Now this unworkable liberal think virus he brought to Washington has infected congress. He's going to get exactly what he wants. *That should frighten you more than any imagined incompetence. - - Everyone should be afraid of his incompetence and corruption. - So far, he's shown neither, - but reality never bothers you, does it, - Telemundo? - -- - BDK - - BDK Klan leader? - kOOk Magnet! - NJJ CLUB #1 - Shillmaster (OT) : The Kentucky Ice Storm Disaster -MIA- President Obama ? and FEMA ! http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...08cf05c26c97a5 Is there any particular reason you can't format your text the way everybody else on Usenet does? I read what you wrote, and laughed because you made a good point, but it took me five minutes to read it because I couldn't make sense of your formatting. -- Zapanaz International Satanic Conspiracy Customer Support Specialist http://joecosby.com/ "Nothing good shall come of what we have done here today. Fortunately, no good was intended to come from it in the first place. So let's just hope we don't get caught." :: Currently listening to One and Four (aka Mr. Day), 1960, by John Coltrane, from "Trane's Blues" |
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http://joecosby.com/code/mail.pl says... RHF hunched over a computer, typing feverishly; Thunder crashed, RHF laughed madly, then wrote: On Feb 3, 9:18*am, BDK wrote: In article telamon_spamshield-6BD758.17552202022009 @newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net, says... In article , *dave wrote: Telamon wrote: People that don't know crap should not be president. The obomination does not know jack as evidenced by his screw ups and do overs. If you have a firm belief system and plan for what you want to accomplish this does not happen. Now this unworkable liberal think virus he brought to Washington has infected congress. He's going to get exactly what he wants. *That should frighten you more than any imagined incompetence. - - Everyone should be afraid of his incompetence and corruption. - So far, he's shown neither, - but reality never bothers you, does it, - Telemundo? - -- - BDK - - BDK Klan leader? - kOOk Magnet! - NJJ CLUB #1 - Shillmaster (OT) : The Kentucky Ice Storm Disaster -MIA- President Obama ? and FEMA ! http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...08cf05c26c97a5 Is there any particular reason you can't format your text the way everybody else on Usenet does? I read what you wrote, and laughed because you made a good point, but it took me five minutes to read it because I couldn't make sense of your formatting. I doubt he's doing it on purpose. -- BDK BDK Klan leader? kOOk Magnet! NJJ CLUB #1 Shillmaster |
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BDK wrote: In article telamon_spamshield-251540.17482903022009 @newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com, lid says... In article , BDK wrote: In article telamon_spamshield-6BD758.17552202022009 @newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net, lid says... In article , dave wrote: Telamon wrote: People that don't know crap should not be president. The obomination does not know jack as evidenced by his screw ups and do overs. If you have a firm belief system and plan for what you want to accomplish this does not happen. Now this unworkable liberal think virus he brought to Washington has infected congress. He's going to get exactly what he wants. That should frighten you more than any imagined incompetence. Everyone should be afraid of his incompetence and corruption. So far, he's shown neither, but reality never bothers you, does it, Telemundo? The news group kookaburra is now officially an ostrich variant. LOL. You're fantasies are funny, Telemundo. As usual, they have little connection to reality, but that never stopped you before, did it? You really are a complete whack job. Not keeping up with the news are you. I am, but I'm just not taking it totally over the top, like some folks do. Sure thing over the top. You just have the nut job take on things. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
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