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[email protected] February 4th 09 11:25 PM

Economic Stimulus Package
 
Yesterday, the Senate began debate on an economic stimulus package
that is intended to get our economy back on track and help Americans
who are suffering through these difficult times. Unfortunately, the
proposal on the table is big on the giveaways for the special
interests and corporate high rollers, yet short on help for ordinary
working Americans. I cannot and do not support the package on the
table from the Democrats and the Obama Administration. Our country
does not need just another spending bill, particularly not one that
will load future generations with the burden of massive debt. We need
a short term stimulus bill that will directly help people, create
jobs, and provide a jolt to our economy.

I believe we need to evaluate every bit of spending in this stimulus
proposal with one important criteria - does it really stimulate the
economy and help create jobs - if the answer is no, it does not belong
in a so-called stimulus package. Furthermore, the stimulus must
include significant direct relief to American workers in the form of
payroll tax cuts and programs to help homeowners keep their homes.
Finally, we need an end game to this stimulus so that when our economy
recovers, these spending programs do not remain permanent and saddle
our children with a skyrocketing national debt.

I appreciate the discussions President Obama is having with my
Republican colleagues, but the time for talking has come to an end and
we must now begin some serious negotiation. But as of yet, Republicans
have not been given the opportunity to be involved. The House of
Representatives passed a stimulus bill without a single Republican
supporting it. In the Senate, the Democrat leadership is trying to jam
the existing proposal through regardless of reservations from a number
of members. With so much at stake, the last thing we need is
partisanship driving our attempts to turn the economy around.

I have long been a fighter against wasteful spending in Washington and
long an advocate for a balanced budget -- that will never change. I
realize we face extraordinary challenges with our economy today, but
that is not an excuse for more irresponsibly from Washington. I hope
you will join me in saying no to this stimulus package as it currently
exists by signing this petition.

http://www.countryfirstpac.com/petition/economic.aspx

Sincerely,

John McCain
Chair, Country First PAC

dave February 5th 09 02:08 AM

Economic Stimulus Package
 
wrote:
Yesterday, the Senate began debate on an economic stimulus package
that is intended to get our economy back on track and help Americans
who are suffering through these difficult times. Unfortunately, the
proposal on the table is big on the giveaways for the special
interests and corporate high rollers, yet short on help for ordinary
working Americans.


You have the current plan confused with the TARP.

RHF February 5th 09 06:55 AM

(OT) : Porkulus Bill -aka- Obama-Spend-N-Lust ! - Obama Tax and SpendBill of 2009
 
On Feb 4, 3:25*pm, wrote:
Yesterday, the Senate began debate on an economic stimulus package
that is intended to get our economy back on track and help Americans
who are suffering through these difficult times. Unfortunately, the
proposal on the table is big on the giveaways for the special
interests and corporate high rollers, yet short on help for ordinary
working Americans. I cannot and do not support the package on the
table from the Democrats and the Obama Administration. Our country
does not need just another spending bill, particularly not one that
will load future generations with the burden of massive debt. We need
a short term stimulus bill that will directly help people, create
jobs, and provide a jolt to our economy.

I believe we need to evaluate every bit of spending in this stimulus
proposal with one important criteria - does it really stimulate the
economy and help create jobs - if the answer is no, it does not belong
in a so-called stimulus package. Furthermore, the stimulus must
include significant direct relief to American workers in the form of
payroll tax cuts and programs to help homeowners keep their homes.
Finally, we need an end game to this stimulus so that when our economy
recovers, these spending programs do not remain permanent and saddle
our children with a skyrocketing national debt.

I appreciate the discussions President Obama is having with my
Republican colleagues, but the time for talking has come to an end and
we must now begin some serious negotiation. But as of yet, Republicans
have not been given the opportunity to be involved. The House of
Representatives passed a stimulus bill without a single Republican
supporting it. In the Senate, the Democrat leadership is trying to jam
the existing proposal through regardless of reservations from a number
of members. With so much at stake, the last thing we need is
partisanship driving our attempts to turn the economy around.

I have long been a fighter against wasteful spending in Washington and
long an advocate for a balanced budget -- that will never change. I
realize we face extraordinary challenges with our economy today, but
that is not an excuse for more irresponsibly from Washington. I hope
you will join me in saying no to this stimulus package as it currently
exists by signing this petition.

http://www.countryfirstpac.com/petition/economic.aspx

Sincerely,

John McCain
Chair, Country First PAC


The latest name for the Obama Tax and Spend Bill
Oops - spend, and Spend. and SPEND Bill !
is the Obama-Splurge and Have Fun Package
-aka- Porkulus Bill -aka- Obama-Spend-N-Lust !

RHF February 5th 09 07:02 AM

(OT) : Porkulus Bill -aka- Obama-Spend-N-Lust ! - Obama Tax andSpend Bill of 2009
 
On Feb 4, 10:55*pm, RHF wrote:
On Feb 4, 3:25*pm, wrote:



Yesterday, the Senate began debate on an economic stimulus package
that is intended to get our economy back on track and help Americans
who are suffering through these difficult times. Unfortunately, the
proposal on the table is big on the giveaways for the special
interests and corporate high rollers, yet short on help for ordinary
working Americans. I cannot and do not support the package on the
table from the Democrats and the Obama Administration. Our country
does not need just another spending bill, particularly not one that
will load future generations with the burden of massive debt. We need
a short term stimulus bill that will directly help people, create
jobs, and provide a jolt to our economy.


I believe we need to evaluate every bit of spending in this stimulus
proposal with one important criteria - does it really stimulate the
economy and help create jobs - if the answer is no, it does not belong
in a so-called stimulus package. Furthermore, the stimulus must
include significant direct relief to American workers in the form of
payroll tax cuts and programs to help homeowners keep their homes.
Finally, we need an end game to this stimulus so that when our economy
recovers, these spending programs do not remain permanent and saddle
our children with a skyrocketing national debt.


I appreciate the discussions President Obama is having with my
Republican colleagues, but the time for talking has come to an end and
we must now begin some serious negotiation. But as of yet, Republicans
have not been given the opportunity to be involved. The House of
Representatives passed a stimulus bill without a single Republican
supporting it. In the Senate, the Democrat leadership is trying to jam
the existing proposal through regardless of reservations from a number
of members. With so much at stake, the last thing we need is
partisanship driving our attempts to turn the economy around.


I have long been a fighter against wasteful spending in Washington and
long an advocate for a balanced budget -- that will never change. I
realize we face extraordinary challenges with our economy today, but
that is not an excuse for more irresponsibly from Washington. I hope
you will join me in saying no to this stimulus package as it currently
exists by signing this petition.


http://www.countryfirstpac.com/petition/economic.aspx


Sincerely,


John McCain
Chair, Country First PAC


- The latest name for the Obama Tax and Spend Bill
- Oops - spend, and Spend. and SPEND Bill !
- is the Obama-Splurge and Have Fun Package
- -aka- Porkulus Bill -aka- Obama-Spend-N-Lust !
- *.

Even the 'Blue-Dog' Democrats are starting
to Up-Chuck of what is in it . . .

snakehawk February 5th 09 09:40 AM

Economic Stimulus Package
 
On Feb 4, 5:25*pm, wrote:
SNIP McCain's generalizations

Furthermore, the stimulus must
include significant direct relief to American workers in the form of
payroll tax cuts and programs to help homeowners keep their homes.
Finally, we need an end game to this stimulus so that when our economy
recovers, these spending programs do not remain permanent and saddle
our children with a skyrocketing national debt.


So the Repigs demand "payroll tax cuts." That's a pretty clever
scam. It means that workers will pay less into Social Security; not
only the workers, but also the employers who are normally required to
pay into the fund along with each employee. The Repig plan is a
reduction in the total amount both the workers and the employers pay
into Social Security.

But the employers get no benefits from the funds, only the workers.
In other words, the Repigs want the stimulus will be financed out of
the Social Security funds being put aside for the workers.

Considering the already shaky condition of the Social Security fund,
the Repig plan is outrageous. Predictions are that the Social
Security fund will be depleted in just a few years at the present rate
of contributions. Yet people like McCain want to reduce the
contributions even further. The Repigs claim they don't want to
saddle our children with debt. But apparently, they don't mind
spending the money needed in the future for the retirement of the
workers and their children.


Billy Burpelson[_2_] February 5th 09 01:45 PM

(OT) : Porkulus Bill -aka- Obama-Spend-N-Lust ! - Obama Tax andSpend Bill of 2009
 
RHF wrote:

The latest name for the Obama Tax and Spend Bill
Oops - spend, and Spend. and SPEND Bill !


After 9/11, George W. Bush's 'solution' was : "spend, Spend, SPEND".

So, what's your point?

RHF February 5th 09 03:36 PM

(OT) : Porkulus Bill -aka- Obama-Spend-N-Lust ! - Obama Tax andSpend Bill of 2009 - Result A Bankrupt America
 
On Feb 5, 5:45*am, Billy Burpelson wrote:
RHF wrote:
The latest name for the Obama Tax and Spend Bill
Oops - spend, and Spend. and SPEND Bill !


After 9/11, George W. Bush's 'solution' was : "spend, Spend, SPEND".

So, what's your point?


Under President Bush "GWB"
First Point : "After 9/11" [Never Forget]
Second Point : "spend, Spend, SPEND"
-translation- defend america, Defend America. DEFEND AMERICA !
-result- No Attack on America After 9/11 :
Until the End of his Presidency [.]

Under President Obama "BHO"
First Point : "Forget About 9/11"
Second Point : "spend, Spend, SPEND"
-translation- bankrupt america, Bankrupt America, BANKRUPT AMERICA !
-result- TBD

VRWC Destruction Machine February 5th 09 05:46 PM

Economic Stimulus Package
 
snakehawk wrote in crayon...

On Feb 4, 5:25*pm, wrote:
SNIP McCain's generalizations

Furthermore, the stimulus must
include significant direct relief to American workers in the form of
payroll tax cuts and programs to help homeowners keep their homes.
Finally, we need an end game to this stimulus so that when our economy
recovers, these spending programs do not remain permanent and saddle
our children with a skyrocketing national debt.


So the Repigs demand "payroll tax cuts." That's a pretty clever
scam. It means that workers will pay less into Social Security; not
only the workers, but also the employers who are normally required to
pay into the fund along with each employee. The Repig plan is a
reduction in the total amount both the workers and the employers pay
into Social Security.


When you understand how a business works maybe you will understand the
need for a struggling business to cut costs in order to stay afloat.

But the employers get no benefits from the funds, only the workers.
In other words, the Repigs want the stimulus will be financed out of
the Social Security funds being put aside for the workers.


How do you figure? It probably stems from your lack of knowledge of
business.


Considering the already shaky condition of the Social Security fund,
the Repig plan is outrageous. Predictions are that the Social
Security fund will be depleted in just a few years at the present rate
of contributions. Yet people like McCain want to reduce the
contributions even further. The Repigs claim they don't want to
saddle our children with debt. But apparently, they don't mind
spending the money needed in the future for the retirement of the
workers and their children.


President GW Bush was bombarded with criticism by Liberals when he
said Social Security needed to be reformed since his first campaign in
1999. President Bush reiterated his need to reform Social Security in
2006. Pelosi and Reid put out the word: There would be no Democratic
Social Security plan, and no negotiating with Bush as long as he
insisted on privatization. President Bush's plan was not supported by
Democrats, but they did not come up with an alternative.

The Democrats want to maintain the status quo in regards to Social
Security because Congress uses it for their legislative petty cash
box. There are so many Congressional I.O.U.s in the SS trust fund.
Paying back those I.O.U.s will be impossible.

The Democratic Pork bill of 2009 will saddle future generations for
the bailout of government.

-

I thank God I am not a liberal because I hate Kool Aid.

dave February 5th 09 06:03 PM

(OT) : Porkulus Bill -aka- Obama-Spend-N-Lust ! - Obama Tax andSpend Bill of 2009
 
Billy Burpelson wrote:
RHF wrote:

The latest name for the Obama Tax and Spend Bill
Oops - spend, and Spend. and SPEND Bill !


After 9/11, George W. Bush's 'solution' was : "spend, Spend, SPEND".

So, what's your point?


Republicans and Democrats both take my money and give it to their
friends. Mr. Bush's friends are war profiteers and oil companies.

John Barnard February 6th 09 01:11 AM

(OT) : Porkulus Bill -aka- Obama-Spend-N-Lust ! - Obama Tax andSpend Bill of 2009 - Result A Bankrupt America
 
RHF wrote:
On Feb 5, 5:45 am, Billy Burpelson wrote:
RHF wrote:
The latest name for the Obama Tax and Spend Bill
Oops - spend, and Spend. and SPEND Bill !

After 9/11, George W. Bush's 'solution' was : "spend, Spend, SPEND".

So, what's your point?


Under President Bush "GWB"
First Point : "After 9/11" [Never Forget]
Second Point : "spend, Spend, SPEND"
-translation- defend america, Defend America. DEFEND AMERICA !
-result- No Attack on America After 9/11 :
Until the End of his Presidency [.]


Is the CIA conducting experiments with psychotropic agents in your
neighbourhood? You really are a master of inane bull****. No attack on
America due to spend, spend, spend? What arrogance!

So what attack happened on the USA after GWB left office?



Under President Obama "BHO"
First Point : "Forget About 9/11"
Second Point : "spend, Spend, SPEND"
-translation- bankrupt america, Bankrupt America, BANKRUPT AMERICA !
-result- TBD
.


So what you are saying is that investing money into the USA's
infrastructure and educational system is a waste of money. How
unamerican of you!

JB


RHF February 6th 09 02:55 AM

(OT) : Porkulus Bill -aka- Obama-Spend-N-Lust ! - Obama Tax andSpend Bill of 2009 - Result A Bankrupt America
 
On Feb 5, 5:11*pm, John Barnard wrote:
RHF wrote:
On Feb 5, 5:45 am, Billy Burpelson wrote:
RHF wrote:
The latest name for the Obama Tax and Spend Bill
Oops - spend, and Spend. and SPEND Bill !
After 9/11, George W. Bush's 'solution' was : "spend, Spend, SPEND".


So, what's your point?


Under President Bush "GWB"
First Point : "After 9/11" [Never Forget]
Second Point : "spend, Spend, SPEND"
-translation- defend america, Defend America. DEFEND AMERICA !
-result- No Attack on America After 9/11 :
Until the End of his Presidency [.]


- Is the CIA conducting experiments with
- psychotropic agents in your neighbourhood?

In the Age of Obama-R-Us Anything is 'Possible'

- You really are a master of inane bull****.

No It Is You Who Is The Master . . .
i am but a humble student ;-}

- No attack on America due to spend, spend,
- spend? What arrogance!

No Just The Simple Facts.

- So what attack happened on the USA
- after GWB left office?

None so far and let us Hope and Pray that it
is the Will of God {Allah} that none will come.

-however- But 'if' one or more does come during
the Presidency of Barach 'Hussein' Obama and
the Control of the US Congress by the Democrat
Party of the USA : Then Clearly Obama and the
Democrats Should and Will Get The Blame [.]

Under President Obama "BHO"
First Point : "Forget About 9/11"
Second Point : "spend, Spend, SPEND"
-translation- bankrupt america, Bankrupt America, BANKRUPT AMERICA !
-result- TBD
*.


- So what you are saying is that investing money
- into the USA's infrastructure

JB - Don't Put Your Words In My Mouth : Have the
Honesty to Promote Your Own Liberal Lies and
Democrat Deceptions Under Your Own Name.

Counting the Billions shows that Only about 15%
is set-a-side for real Infrastructure improvements.
with Jobs lasting from 1~3-Years and maybe out
to 5-Years. beyond that there are no new jobs
in the

While most of the rest is for Democrat Pet Projects
and Liberal Agenda Initiatives.
-examples- Abortions and ACORN

NOTE - This Obama Porkulus Bill Moneys can NOT
go to Organizations with Religious Affiliations or
groups like the US Boy Scouts.
-but- $100Ms can be spent on Abortions, ACORN,
etc . . .

- and educational system is a waste of money.

Again very little goes to Education and 'education'
is not the issue : Most of the Unemployed are
Educated and Skilled : Who Need JOBS not
more Education.

This Obama Porkulus Bill Does Not Do That [.]

? How much of the Education Money is Being
Spent on Keeping Minority Boys in High School
and insuring that they have a Future as Workers
vice Imprisoned as Criminals.

This Obama Porkulus Bill Does Not Do That [.]

50% of all the Education Money needs to be spent
on Keeping Kids in School and Ensuring that they
Graduate from High School so that they all equally
have a basic 'chance' at a future.

This Obama Porkulus Bill Does Not Do That [.]

35% of all the Education Money needs to be spent
on Getting Young Adults in to Technical and Trade
Schools and Ensuring that they Graduate and can
get a basically good job and support themselves;
so that they all equally have a basic 'chance' at a
future.

This Obama Porkulus Bill Does Not Do That [.]

The last 15% can be spent on College because
we as a Society only need 15% of the overall US
Population to go to and graduate from College.

Everyone Needs To Go To College Is A Lie :
And Preparing Everyone To Got To College
Is a Waist of Education Dollars When We
Fail To Provide a Basic High School Education
to 25%~33% of Young Minority Males in the
USA [.]

This Obama Porkulus Bill Forgets Them [.]
-except- to ship them off to the us military
to use as troops; or force them into a life
of crime and doing jail time.

- How unamerican of you!

I was Born and Raised in the USA and I Love
My Country : I Can Say That Barack 'Hussein'
Obama is My President as I Could Equally
Say : Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagan, Carter,
Ford, Nixon, LBJ, JFK and IKE were All My
US Presidents ~ RHF

- JB

-ps- JB Can You Say That ? - Oh The Silence . . .

RHF February 6th 09 03:42 AM

(OT) : Dissin Da Presiduncts - The Obama Porkulus Bill & The BushBlaming Game
 
On Feb 5, 10:03*am, dave wrote:
Billy Burpelson wrote:
RHF wrote:


The latest name for the Obama Tax and Spend Bill
Oops - spend, and Spend. and SPEND Bill !


After 9/11, George W. Bush's 'solution' was :
"spend, Spend, SPEND".


So, what's your point?


- Republicans and Democrats both take my
- money and give it to their friends.
-
-*Mr. Bush's friends are war profiteers and oil companies.

Dave - Let's see if i can say something equally 'stupid'.

Dang Dave - You Beat Me ;-} ~ RHF

Nah - Here is a 'try' . . . We can tell by US President
Barack 'Hussein' Obama's first news interview who
his thinks his friends are . . .
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/01...y4754691.shtml
NOTE - It was noted by Arab News Commentators
that there was no American Flag behind Obama to
present him as the US President speaking as the
US President for the American People. Instead
where the US Flag should have been; there was
a Vase with Yellow Flowers in it.

Brenda Ann February 6th 09 04:56 AM

(OT) : Porkulus Bill -aka- Obama-Spend-N-Lust ! - Obama Tax and Spend Bill of 2009 - Result A Bankrupt America
 

"John Barnard" wrote in message
...
RHF wrote:
On Feb 5, 5:45 am, Billy Burpelson wrote:
RHF wrote:
The latest name for the Obama Tax and Spend Bill
Oops - spend, and Spend. and SPEND Bill !
After 9/11, George W. Bush's 'solution' was : "spend, Spend, SPEND".

So, what's your point?


Under President Bush "GWB"
First Point : "After 9/11" [Never Forget]
Second Point : "spend, Spend, SPEND"
-translation- defend america, Defend America. DEFEND AMERICA !
-result- No Attack on America After 9/11 :
Until the End of his Presidency [.]


Is the CIA conducting experiments with psychotropic agents in your
neighbourhood? You really are a master of inane bull****. No attack on
America due to spend, spend, spend? What arrogance!

So what attack happened on the USA after GWB left office?



Under President Obama "BHO"
First Point : "Forget About 9/11"
Second Point : "spend, Spend, SPEND"
-translation- bankrupt america, Bankrupt America, BANKRUPT AMERICA !
-result- TBD
.


So what you are saying is that investing money into the USA's
infrastructure and educational system is a waste of money. How unamerican
of you!


I believe that eating chocolate bars will keep alien life forms from
invading the Earth. I eat chocolate bars, and no alien life forms have
invaded the Earth, ergo, eating chocolate bars MUST really keep alien life
forms from invading. QED.




RHF February 6th 09 04:10 PM

(OT) : Porkulus Bill -aka- Obama-Spend-N-Lust ! - Obama Tax andSpend Bill of 2009 - Result A Bankrupt America
 
On Feb 5, 8:56*pm, "Brenda Ann" wrote:
"John Barnard" wrote in message

...



RHF wrote:
On Feb 5, 5:45 am, Billy Burpelson wrote:
RHF wrote:
The latest name for the Obama Tax and Spend Bill
Oops - spend, and Spend. and SPEND Bill !
After 9/11, George W. Bush's 'solution' was : "spend, Spend, SPEND".


So, what's your point?


Under President Bush "GWB"
First Point : "After 9/11" [Never Forget]
Second Point : "spend, Spend, SPEND"
-translation- defend america, Defend America. DEFEND AMERICA !
-result- No Attack on America After 9/11 :
Until the End of his Presidency [.]


Is the CIA conducting experiments with psychotropic agents in your
neighbourhood? You really are a master of inane bull****. No attack on
America due to spend, spend, spend? What arrogance!


So what attack happened on the USA after GWB left office?


Under President Obama "BHO"
First Point : "Forget About 9/11"
Second Point : "spend, Spend, SPEND"
-translation- bankrupt america, Bankrupt America, BANKRUPT AMERICA !
-result- TBD
*.


So what you are saying is that investing money into the USA's
infrastructure and educational system is a waste of money. How unamerican
of you!


I believe that eating chocolate bars will keep alien life forms from
invading the Earth. I eat chocolate bars, and no alien life forms have
invaded the Earth, ergo, eating chocolate bars MUST really keep alien life
forms from invading. QED.


BAD - That is The Power of True Belief ;-} ~ RHF

John Barnard February 7th 09 05:15 AM

(OT) : Porkulus Bill -aka- Obama-Spend-N-Lust ! - Obama Tax andSpend Bill of 2009 - Result A Bankrupt America
 
RHF wrote:
On Feb 5, 5:11 pm, John Barnard wrote:
RHF wrote:
On Feb 5, 5:45 am, Billy Burpelson wrote:
RHF wrote:
The latest name for the Obama Tax and Spend Bill
Oops - spend, and Spend. and SPEND Bill !
After 9/11, George W. Bush's 'solution' was : "spend, Spend, SPEND".
So, what's your point?
Under President Bush "GWB"
First Point : "After 9/11" [Never Forget]
Second Point : "spend, Spend, SPEND"
-translation- defend america, Defend America. DEFEND AMERICA !
-result- No Attack on America After 9/11 :
Until the End of his Presidency [.]

- Is the CIA conducting experiments with
- psychotropic agents in your neighbourhood?

In the Age of Obama-R-Us Anything is 'Possible'

- You really are a master of inane bull****.

No It Is You Who Is The Master . . .
i am but a humble student ;-}


To be a student, you must be prepared to learn. A trait, sadly, which
you have yet to demonstrate.


- No attack on America due to spend, spend,
- spend? What arrogance!

No Just The Simple Facts.


Cherry-picking the facts, a la GWB, is NOT honourable and broadcast your
bias.


- So what attack happened on the USA
- after GWB left office?

None so far and let us Hope and Pray that it
is the Will of God {Allah} that none will come.


Your words: "-result- No Attack on America After 9/11 :
Until the End of his Presidency [.]"

Your clearly state that an attack occurred after GWB left office. Please
let us know who attacked and when the attack occurred.


-however- But 'if' one or more does come during
the Presidency of Barach 'Hussein' Obama and
the Control of the US Congress by the Democrat
Party of the USA : Then Clearly Obama and the
Democrats Should and Will Get The Blame [.]

Under President Obama "BHO"
First Point : "Forget About 9/11"
Second Point : "spend, Spend, SPEND"
-translation- bankrupt america, Bankrupt America, BANKRUPT AMERICA !
-result- TBD
.


- So what you are saying is that investing money
- into the USA's infrastructure

JB - Don't Put Your Words In My Mouth : Have the
Honesty to Promote Your Own Liberal Lies and
Democrat Deceptions Under Your Own Name.


You just pegged the irony meter.


Counting the Billions shows that Only about 15%
is set-a-side for real Infrastructure improvements.
with Jobs lasting from 1~3-Years and maybe out
to 5-Years. beyond that there are no new jobs
in the


People working for 1-3 years and maybe 5 years is bad for what reason?
How do you know that there are no new jobs beyond 3 or 5 years? Sounds
like a terrific way to gain some decent experience!


While most of the rest is for Democrat Pet Projects
and Liberal Agenda Initiatives.
-examples- Abortions and ACORN


Please show me where ACORN is mentioned in the bill. BTW, don't take
Malkin too seriously - she talks out of her ass all the time. And for
your information, the bill has money targeted for "neighbourhood
stabilization activities" with the money going to state and local
governments. Some Dems want some of that money to be available to
non-profit organizations of which ACORN could be one POTENTIAL
recipient. The bill, insofar as I can tell, does not explicitly
designate money to ACORN.

The lies appear to be in your court.


NOTE - This Obama Porkulus Bill Moneys can NOT
go to Organizations with Religious Affiliations or
groups like the US Boy Scouts.
-but- $100Ms can be spent on Abortions, ACORN,
etc . . .

- and educational system is a waste of money.


An educational system is never a waste of money.


Again very little goes to Education and 'education'
is not the issue : Most of the Unemployed are
Educated and Skilled : Who Need JOBS not
more Education.


I hate to tell you but those who suffer the most in an economic downturn
are those with the least amount of education as they don't have the
skillsets that allow them the possibility to work in different areas.


This Obama Porkulus Bill Does Not Do That [.]

? How much of the Education Money is Being
Spent on Keeping Minority Boys in High School
and insuring that they have a Future as Workers
vice Imprisoned as Criminals.

This Obama Porkulus Bill Does Not Do That [.]


Please give us some specifics as to how the bill does not do so.

50% of all the Education Money needs to be spent
on Keeping Kids in School and Ensuring that they
Graduate from High School so that they all equally
have a basic 'chance' at a future.

This Obama Porkulus Bill Does Not Do That [.]


Please give us some specifics as to how the bill does not do so.


35% of all the Education Money needs to be spent
on Getting Young Adults in to Technical and Trade
Schools and Ensuring that they Graduate and can
get a basically good job and support themselves;
so that they all equally have a basic 'chance' at a
future.

This Obama Porkulus Bill Does Not Do That [.]


Please give us some specifics as to how the bill does not do so. BTW,
belief is NOT a substitute for facts.

The last 15% can be spent on College because
we as a Society only need 15% of the overall US
Population to go to and graduate from College.


Only 15% - jeez you do an incredible disservice to your country! You
might want to go back and re-think that number.


Everyone Needs To Go To College Is A Lie :
And Preparing Everyone To Got To College
Is a Waist of Education Dollars When We
Fail To Provide a Basic High School Education
to 25%~33% of Young Minority Males in the
USA [.]

This Obama Porkulus Bill Forgets Them [.]
-except- to ship them off to the us military
to use as troops; or force them into a life
of crime and doing jail time.


You just recited the recruiting practices during GWB's years!


- How unamerican of you!

I was Born and Raised in the USA and I Love
My Country : I Can Say That Barack 'Hussein'
Obama is My President as I Could Equally
Say : Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagan, Carter,
Ford, Nixon, LBJ, JFK and IKE were All My
US Presidents ~ RHF


And that statement means absolutely at all. You can say that they are
all your Presidents and not have a connection to any of them.


- JB

-ps- JB Can You Say That ? - Oh The Silence . . .
.

I'm never silent - you just heard me!

JB



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