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These new energy efficient household bulbs really cause a lot interference
on my medium wave and the lower short wave bands. Is there anything I can do
to eliminate it, short of switching back to the old filament type


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These new energy efficient household bulbs really cause a lot interference
on my medium wave and the lower short wave bands. Is there anything I can do
to eliminate it, short of switching back to the old filament type


No easy way. You are better off with the incandescent bulbs as those
screw type florescence are a mercury hazard and depending on the
instillation they will not last long.

The best use for the energy efficient bulbs are ones that are not
switched on/off often and are mounted upright. That eliminates most uses.

A better system would be low voltage quartz or LED type lighting but
that takes rewiring the house.

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Telamon wrote:
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"McFerg" wrote:

These new energy efficient household bulbs really cause a lot interference
on my medium wave and the lower short wave bands. Is there anything I can do
to eliminate it, short of switching back to the old filament type


No easy way. You are better off with the incandescent bulbs as those
screw type florescence are a mercury hazard and depending on the
instillation they will not last long.

The best use for the energy efficient bulbs are ones that are not
switched on/off often and are mounted upright. That eliminates most uses.

A better system would be low voltage quartz or LED type lighting but
that takes rewiring the house.


Incandescent bulbs release way more mercury than the occasional broken
CFL. I turn mine on and off just like any other lamp; no ill effects.

I use them vertically, horizontally, and at various angles in-between.
Again, no ill effects.

There are LED lamps that run on 110 VAC.
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In article ,
dave wrote:

Telamon wrote:
In article ,
"McFerg" wrote:

These new energy efficient household bulbs really cause a lot interference
on my medium wave and the lower short wave bands. Is there anything I can
do
to eliminate it, short of switching back to the old filament type


No easy way. You are better off with the incandescent bulbs as those
screw type florescence are a mercury hazard and depending on the
instillation they will not last long.

The best use for the energy efficient bulbs are ones that are not
switched on/off often and are mounted upright. That eliminates most uses.

A better system would be low voltage quartz or LED type lighting but
that takes rewiring the house.


Incandescent bulbs release way more mercury than the occasional broken
CFL.


You will have to explain that one.

I turn mine on and off just like any other lamp; no ill effects.


If you use them upside down in any ceiling fixture you will shorten the
life of the bulb.

I use them vertically, horizontally, and at various angles in-between.
Again, no ill effects.


If you are turning them on and off all the time you will shorten the
life of the bulb.

There are LED lamps that run on 110 VAC.


Those have switching power supplies that should be avoided.

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Ventura, California
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On Mar 6, 8:20*pm, Telamon
wrote:
In article ,





*dave wrote:
Telamon wrote:
In article ,
*"McFerg" wrote:


These new energy efficient household bulbs really cause a lot interference
on my medium wave and the lower short wave bands. Is there anything I can
do
to eliminate it, short of switching back to the old filament type


No easy way. You are better off with the incandescent bulbs as those
screw type florescence are a mercury hazard and depending on the
instillation they will not last long.


The best use for the energy efficient bulbs are ones that are not
switched on/off often and are mounted upright. That eliminates most uses.


A better system would be low voltage quartz or LED type lighting but
that takes rewiring the house.


Incandescent bulbs release way more mercury than the occasional broken
CFL.


You will have to explain that one.

I turn mine on and off just like any other lamp; *no ill effects.


If you use them upside down in any ceiling fixture you will shorten the
life of the bulb.

I use them vertically, horizontally, and at various angles in-between.
Again, no ill effects.


If you are turning them on and off all the time you will shorten the
life of the bulb.

There are LED lamps that run on 110 VAC.


Those have switching power supplies that should be avoided.

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Indeed. We found out the hard way with our patio light, it is upside
down. After going through three bulbs in 7-8 maybe nine months, I
switched. Maybe the moisture of being outside also had something to do
with it.

That is true what you said, I've never read that but the two bulbs we
do use in the house are vertical and we leave them on all the time and
as far as I know not one of them has expired yet.



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Bushcraftgregg wrote:

On Mar 6, 8:20*pm, Telamon
wrote:
In article ,

*dave wrote:
Telamon wrote:
In article ,
*"McFerg" wrote:


These new energy efficient household bulbs really cause a lot
interference on my medium wave and the lower short wave bands.
Is there anything I can do to eliminate it, short of switching
back to the old filament type


No easy way. You are better off with the incandescent bulbs as
those screw type florescence are a mercury hazard and depending
on the instillation they will not last long.


The best use for the energy efficient bulbs are ones that are
not switched on/off often and are mounted upright. That
eliminates most uses.


A better system would be low voltage quartz or LED type
lighting but that takes rewiring the house.


Incandescent bulbs release way more mercury than the occasional
broken CFL.


You will have to explain that one.

I turn mine on and off just like any other lamp; *no ill effects.


If you use them upside down in any ceiling fixture you will shorten
the life of the bulb.

I use them vertically, horizontally, and at various angles
in-between. Again, no ill effects.


If you are turning them on and off all the time you will shorten
the life of the bulb.

There are LED lamps that run on 110 VAC.


Those have switching power supplies that should be avoided.


Indeed. We found out the hard way with our patio light, it is upside
down. After going through three bulbs in 7-8 maybe nine months, I
switched. Maybe the moisture of being outside also had something to
do with it.

That is true what you said, I've never read that but the two bulbs we
do use in the house are vertical and we leave them on all the time
and as far as I know not one of them has expired yet.


I'm still waiting for Dave to explain the mercury in an incandescent
bulb.

The socket at the top configuration subjects the electronics and the
filaments to more heat, aging them faster.

Starting the bulb up puts a lot of stress on the circuits and filaments,
actually the only time they are really used, and wears them out.

The bulbs don't like repeated hot to cold temperature extremes either.

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Ventura, California
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There are LED lamps that run on 110 VAC.


Those have switching power supplies that should be avoided.


None of my 120 (or 220) volt LED lamps use a switching supply. They use a
simple series string with a rectifier, dropping resistor and filter cap.



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Bushcraftgregg wrote:
On Mar 6, 8:20 pm, Telamon
wrote:
In article ,





dave wrote:
Telamon wrote:
In article ,
"McFerg" wrote:
These new energy efficient household bulbs really cause a lot interference
on my medium wave and the lower short wave bands. Is there anything I can
do
to eliminate it, short of switching back to the old filament type
No easy way. You are better off with the incandescent bulbs as those
screw type florescence are a mercury hazard and depending on the
instillation they will not last long.
The best use for the energy efficient bulbs are ones that are not
switched on/off often and are mounted upright. That eliminates most uses.
A better system would be low voltage quartz or LED type lighting but
that takes rewiring the house.
Incandescent bulbs release way more mercury than the occasional broken
CFL.

You will have to explain that one.


Most electricity is produced by burning coal, which contains mercury.
There is mercury in the smokestack emissions from coal plants. The
extra mercury released by the power plant in the lifetime of an Edison
lamp is more than that spilled by a broken CFL. Simply a matter of
arithmetic.

I turn mine on and off just like any other lamp; no ill effects.

If you use them upside down in any ceiling fixture you will shorten the
life of the bulb.


That's a heat thing. You can use them ballast up, but you have to
ensure adequate ventilation of the ballast.

I use them vertically, horizontally, and at various angles in-between.
Again, no ill effects.

If you are turning them on and off all the time you will shorten the
life of the bulb.


You're turn for a scientific explanation.

There are LED lamps that run on 110 VAC.

Those have switching power supplies that should be avoided.

Modern switch-mode power supplies are usually carefully tailored to the
load and any RF emission is minimized; not just for Part 15, but because
it is less efficient to waste power making radio waves.
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Back around 1946, somebody dared me to unscrew that INCANDESCENT
Lightbulb and stick my finger in there.Of course, I did exactly that.I
have a very old floor lamp which has a telescoping gooseneck thingy on
it, I use it by doggy's couch.This afternoon, the G.E.60 watt
INCANDESCENT Lightbulb blew out, I had been using that INCANDESCENT
Light bulb for about two months or more before it blew out.I Don't
intend to Ever replace all of my INCANDESCENT Lightbulbs with
flouarescent lightbulbe, I don't give a damn how ''efficient'' they are.
cuhulin
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