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Russia may base bombers in cuba
Monitoring opportunities?
http://news.mobile.msn.com/en-us/art...1&aid=29691183 (via SmokeyKat, MilCom list) That photo sure brings back memories. I remember those boys buzzing us from time to time just above the deck and a few hundred feet away. We'd wave at each other! Later, I remember monitoring them as they transited along the east coast USA, sending position reports in Russian Morse. At the time there was an article in either PopCom or Monitoring Times giving details on how to decode those posit reports. dxAce Michigan USA |
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(OT) : Russia May Base Bombers in Cuba : Obama-Regime© Does Nothing to Protect America's Sovereignty
On Mar 15, 9:34*am, dxAce wrote:
- Monitoring opportunities? - - http://news.mobile.msn.com/en-us/art...1&aid=29691183 - (via SmokeyKat, MilCom list) - - That photo sure brings back memories. - I remember those boys buzzing us from time - to time just above the deck and a few hundred feet away. - We'd wave at each other! - - Later, I remember monitoring them as they - transited along the east coast USA, sending - position reports in Russian Morse. At the time - there was an article in either PopCom or - Monitoring Times giving details on how to - decode those posit reports. - - dxAce - Michigan - USA Meanwhile the Obama-Regime© does nothing to protect America's Sovereignty from this encroachment by Russia into Cuba putting Bombers and ?Missiles? within a few Miles of the US Mainland. send in the hillary, Send In The Hillary. SEND IN THE HILLARY ! To Beg Them To Please Stop : Can't We All Play 'Nice' Together ? NOTE - The Obama-Regime© is Planning a +15% Cut in US Defense Spending as a Showing of the USA's Commitment to Peace -while- Both China and Russia are Building-Up Their Military and Increasing Their Defense Spending. PAX-Obama© The Death of a Once Great America ! ~ RHF |
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(OT) : Russia May Base Bombers in Cuba : Obama-Regime© Does Nothing to Protect America's Sovereignty
~ RHF wrote:
On Mar 15, 9:34 am, dxAce wrote: - Monitoring opportunities? - - http://news.mobile.msn.com/en-us/art...1&aid=29691183 - (via SmokeyKat, MilCom list) - - That photo sure brings back memories. - I remember those boys buzzing us from time - to time just above the deck and a few hundred feet away. - We'd wave at each other! - - Later, I remember monitoring them as they - transited along the east coast USA, sending - position reports in Russian Morse. At the time - there was an article in either PopCom or - Monitoring Times giving details on how to - decode those posit reports. - - dxAce - Michigan - USA Meanwhile the Obama-Regime© does nothing to protect America's Sovereignty from this encroachment by Russia into Cuba putting Bombers and ?Missiles? within a few Miles of the US Mainland. We are putting missiles on Russia's doorstep. This is their response. "If the members of the Obama administration would bother to take a stroll down memory lane, they might recall that once upon a time there was a document called the anti-ballistic missile treaty, signed in 1972 between the United States and the former Soviet Union, which recognized that anti-missile defense shields were inherently destabilizing, and as such should not be deployed. The ABM treaty represented the foundational agreement for a series of strategic arms limitation and arms reduction agreements that followed. President Obama was 10 years old when that treaty was signed. He was 40 years old when President George W. Bush withdrew from it, in December 2001, and set in motion a series of events that saw arms control between the U.S. and Russia completely unravel. The proposed U.S. missile defense shield, to be deployed in Poland and the Czech Republic, had the Russians talking about scrapping the INF treaty (which eliminated two classes of nuclear-armed ballistic missiles that threatened Europe) and deploying highly accurate SS-21 “Iskander” missiles within striking range of the proposed Polish interceptor site. Russia did not create the missile defense system crisis. The United States did, and, as such, cannot expect to suddenly receive diplomatic credit when it puts this controversial program on the foreign policy gaming table as if it were a legitimate chip to be bargained away. Russia has always, correctly, claimed that any missile defense system deployed in Eastern Europe can only be directed at Russia. While both the Bush and Obama administrations denied that was the case, Poland has all but admitted its concerns are not about missiles coming from Tehran, but rather missiles coming from Moscow. The American “sweetener” for a potential Polish loss of a missile shield is to offer Poland advanced Patriot surface-to-air missiles, whose intended target is clearly not a Persian missile which cannot reach Polish soil, but rather Russian missiles and aircraft which can. There are three basic facts that the Obama administration needs to address, but as of yet has not: First, missile defense systems are inherently destabilizing and only contribute to the acquisition of offensive counters designed to defeat those defenses. Second, the rapid expansion of NATO in the past decade has in fact threatened Russia. And third, the Iranian missile “threat” to Europe has always been illusory." http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/...a_meet_team_b/ |
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(OT) : Russia May Base Bombers in Cuba : Obama-Regime© Does Nothing to Protect America's Sovereignty
dave wrote:
~ RHF wrote: On Mar 15, 9:34 am, dxAce wrote: - Monitoring opportunities? - - http://news.mobile.msn.com/en-us/art...1&aid=29691183 - (via SmokeyKat, MilCom list) - - That photo sure brings back memories. - I remember those boys buzzing us from time - to time just above the deck and a few hundred feet away. - We'd wave at each other! - - Later, I remember monitoring them as they - transited along the east coast USA, sending - position reports in Russian Morse. At the time - there was an article in either PopCom or - Monitoring Times giving details on how to - decode those posit reports. - - dxAce - Michigan - USA Meanwhile the Obama-Regime© does nothing to protect America's Sovereignty from this encroachment by Russia into Cuba putting Bombers and ?Missiles? within a few Miles of the US Mainland. We are putting missiles on Russia's doorstep. This is their response. "If the members of the Obama administration would bother to take a stroll down memory lane, they might recall that once upon a time there was a document called the anti-ballistic missile treaty, signed in 1972 between the United States and the former Soviet Union, which recognized that anti-missile defense shields were inherently destabilizing, and as such should not be deployed. The ABM treaty represented the foundational agreement for a series of strategic arms limitation and arms reduction agreements that followed. President Obama was 10 years old when that treaty was signed. He was 40 years old when President George W. Bush withdrew from it, in December 2001, and set in motion a series of events that saw arms control between the U.S. and Russia completely unravel. The proposed U.S. missile defense shield, to be deployed in Poland and the Czech Republic, had the Russians talking about scrapping the INF treaty (which eliminated two classes of nuclear-armed ballistic missiles that threatened Europe) and deploying highly accurate SS-21 “Iskander” missiles within striking range of the proposed Polish interceptor site. Russia did not create the missile defense system crisis. The United States did, and, as such, cannot expect to suddenly receive diplomatic credit when it puts this controversial program on the foreign policy gaming table as if it were a legitimate chip to be bargained away. Missile defense systems are defensive. The idea that a defensive system is destabilizing is completely ludicrous. Bombers are by their very nature offensive. An Russian offensive weapon deployed to the western hemisphere is by its very nature destabilizing. See the difference? |
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(OT) : Russia May Base Bombers in Cuba : Obama-Regime© Does Nothing to Protect America's Sovereignty
David Hartung wrote:
Missile defense systems are defensive. The idea that a defensive system is destabilizing is completely ludicrous. Bombers are by their very nature offensive. An Russian offensive weapon deployed to the western hemisphere is by its very nature destabilizing. See the difference? No. It is all quite insane. |
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(OT) : Russia May Base Bombers in Cuba : Obama-Regime© Does Nothing to Protect America's Sovereignty
dave wrote:
David Hartung wrote: Missile defense systems are defensive. The idea that a defensive system is destabilizing is completely ludicrous. Bombers are by their very nature offensive. An Russian offensive weapon deployed to the western hemisphere is by its very nature destabilizing. See the difference? No. It is all quite insane. I agree, war is insane, but it is sometimes necessary. One could very logically make the argument that Russia's belligerence the past few years well justifies any defensive system we may wish to deploy. |
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(OT) : Russia May BaseBombers in Cuba :Obama-Regime© DoesNothing to Protect America'sSovereignty
In article ,
dave wrote: ~ RHF wrote: On Mar 15, 9:34 am, dxAce wrote: - Monitoring opportunities? - - http://news.mobile.msn.com/en-us/art...1&aid=29691183 - (via SmokeyKat, MilCom list) - - That photo sure brings back memories. - I remember those boys buzzing us from time - to time just above the deck and a few hundred feet away. - We'd wave at each other! - - Later, I remember monitoring them as they - transited along the east coast USA, sending - position reports in Russian Morse. At the time - there was an article in either PopCom or - Monitoring Times giving details on how to - decode those posit reports. - - dxAce - Michigan - USA Meanwhile the Obama-Regime© does nothing to protect America's Sovereignty from this encroachment by Russia into Cuba putting Bombers and ?Missiles? within a few Miles of the US Mainland. We are putting missiles on Russia's doorstep. This is their response. SNIP They are not nuclear missiles Dave. They are conventional defense missiles. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
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(OT) : Russia May BaseBombers in Cuba : Obama-Regime© DoesNothing to Protect America's Sovereignty
Telamon wrote:
In article , We are putting missiles on Russia's doorstep. This is their response. SNIP They are not nuclear missiles Dave. They are conventional defense missiles. For which the effective countermeasure IS a nuclear weapon. The end result is the same; destabilization and menace. |
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(OT) : Russia May BaseBombers in Cuba : Obama-Regime© DoesNothing to Protect America's Sovereignty
dave wrote:
Telamon wrote: In article , We are putting missiles on Russia's doorstep. This is their response. SNIP They are not nuclear missiles Dave. They are conventional defense missiles. For which the effective countermeasure IS a nuclear weapon. The end result is the same; destabilization and menace. Exactly what do you see as stable? Unilateral disarmament. |
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(OT) : Russia May BaseBombers in Cuba : Obama-Regime© DoesNothing to Protect America's Sovereignty
dave wrote:
Telamon wrote: In article , We are putting missiles on Russia's doorstep. This is their response. SNIP They are not nuclear missiles Dave. They are conventional defense missiles. For which the effective countermeasure IS a nuclear weapon. The end result is the same; destabilization and menace. By the way, if your opponent deploys a weapon which is strictly defensive, why would you need a countermeasure, unless you intend to engage in offensive action? |
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