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m II wrote:
Day Brown wrote:

And ignorant to boot. The treaty of Tripoli, signed by President John
Adams, and ratified by 100% of the US senate says "The United States
is not a Christian nation." How did we become one?

You haven't. Judging by the invasions, torture chambers and death camps,
I'd say you are the farthest removed thing from Christianity.
Who getsta define the term? From what Gibbon has to say, hypocrisy
characterized the church even from the days of the martyrs. For example,
Commodus, of all people, hadda call out the legions to stop the
followers of Bishops Athenasius and Arian from butchering each
other in the streets of Carthage. Each was utterly convinced the
other had the definition wrong.

Then, too, when Polemus circulated his criticism of well known
pagan prophets and clerics, people were just appalled. Only the
Christians did that sort of thing. Hence we have "polemic".

Would you care to outline for us who the true Christians are?

Freedom to Choose

Day Brown wrote:

m II wrote:
Day Brown wrote:

And ignorant to boot. The treaty of Tripoli, signed by President John
Adams, and ratified by 100% of the US senate says "The United States
is not a Christian nation." How did we become one?

You haven't. Judging by the invasions, torture chambers and death camps,
I'd say you are the farthest removed thing from Christianity.
Who getsta define the term? From what Gibbon has to say, hypocrisy
characterized the church even from the days of the martyrs. For example,
Commodus, of all people, hadda call out the legions to stop the
followers of Bishops Athenasius and Arian from butchering each
other in the streets of Carthage. Each was utterly convinced the
other had the definition wrong.

Then, too, when Polemus circulated his criticism of well known
pagan prophets and clerics, people were just appalled. Only the
Christians did that sort of thing. Hence we have "polemic".

Would you care to outline for us who the true Christians are?

Well, for sure, they are not the dufi who claim to have PhD's when they really
don't!

Those who do, and don't, suck Obama's dick in their dreams!

F00kin dufi!

Freedom to Choose

On Mar 20, 6:37*pm, "Clave"
wrote:

Medicine is practiced for the benefit of the patient, not the practicioner.

Freedom to Choose

wrote in message
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On Mar 20, 6:37 pm, "Clave"
wrote:

Medicine is practiced for the benefit of the patient, not the
practicioner.

If the "professionals" don't have the "conscience" for the job, there's
always work at the Post Office.

http://mises.org/books/TRTS/

I don't blindly click links in Usenet posts. If you have a point, make it.

Jim

Freedom to Choose

You ought to see how the Sweet Potato Queens choose.
Earlier today I went down town to check out the Saint Patrick's Day
Parade.It is the third largest in America, next to Chicago and New York
City.The Sweet Potato Queens were there.There are some people there who
come from all around the World to the parade.The parade gets larger
every year.

http://jackson.metromix.com/events/a...972057/content
www.sweetpotatoqueens.com
cuhulin

Freedom to Choose

On Mar 20, 8:34*pm, Drafterman wrote:
On Mar 20, 7:14*pm, wrote:

I find it curious that, when it comes to the “pro-choice” crowd, the
choice is actually quite limited. Those offering alternatives to
abortion are branded as religious fanatics and even as dangerous.
Pregnancy resource centers which provide options other than abortion
are labeled as “fake clinics.” Now, there’s even a move to eliminate
the choices of medical professionals when it comes to performing
abortions.

I'm sorry. This seems a bit over my head. Can you show me a breakdown
of how the pro-life crowd offers more choices than the pro-choice
crowd?

If you doubt this, witness the effort by the Obama Administration to
get rid of a Health and Human Services rule that ensures the
conscience rights of medical professionals as far as abortion is
concerned.

Because it's stupid. It'd be like Netflix refusing to send me a movie
because they object to it. I'm paying for the service, ergo they are
legally obligated to provide me the service. This isn't some fast-food
joint where they retain the right to refuse service. I'm *already*
paying for it. In fact, I'm paying for it whether I use it or not. So,
on top of having to pay for it, whether I use it or not, you are
suggesting that they have the option of simply refusing to give me
service?

As one doctor concerned about the situation noted, if physicians have
no conscience rights, no one is safe from forced abortions, government-
sanctioned euthanasia, and other actions hostile to life. The right to
die becomes the duty to die; the right to abort becomes the
requirement to abort. And the culture of our nation suffers in the
process.

Wow. This is perhaps the most poorly constructed slippery slope
argument I've ever seen. Forced abortions, euthanasia, and the such
are issues regarding PATIENT rights which is the primary concern.
Nothing here suggests that ensuring that patients receive the service
they are due will somehow, magically turn into forced abortions. You
do realize that simply stringing a series of events together does not,
somehow, make it a probable, possible, or even logical argument,
right? There has to be SOME thought put into it.

Fortunately, there is an opportunity for ordinary citizens to fight
back against this latest instance of government intrusion. The
American Association of Pro-Life OB/GYNs is asking taxpayers to make
their voices heard on this issue.

If you visit the websitewww.freedom2care.org, you can send a message
to the Department of Health and Human Services, registering your
complaint as either a patient or a health care professional. You can
note how you want your doctor to be free to follow principles such as
the Hippocratic Oath, the Nuremberg Code, and general moral standards.
Medical professionals can point out how they do not want government to
restrict their freedom to practice medicine by forcing them to violate
ethical standards of care.

What if I want my doctor to not have the option of arbitrarily denying
me service based on nothing more than an emotional state?

At this time of government takeovers, a morally bankrupt government
takeover of the health care industry is appalling. We can be thankful
that the Freedom2Care Coalition is standing up to this over-reaching
power grab by the federal government. As the coalition states, its
mission is “to protect and advance the free exercise of conscience
rights in health care, thereby protecting patients and upholding
American ideals and law.”

Far from being a noble gesture of protecting innocent people from a
(nonexistent) threat it's rather a defensive reaction against what
they perceive a threat to their own goals.

One’s conscience should be considered sacred. It’s that little voice
inside, placed there by the Almighty, which enables us to distinguish
between right and wrong. Despite 36 years of attempted brainwashing,
there are doctors today who realize that abortion violates that voice
within. Let’s do our part to support these caring medical
professionals who are willing to confront the pro-abortion political
machine. Go towww.freedom2care.organdgive voice to your convictions
today.

http://townhall.com/Columnists/Natha...edom_to_choose

If you are in a job that may take you places where your conscience
doesn't want to go it isn't the responsibility for the rest of the
world to bend over backwards so you can still get a paycheck while
getting out of work. If I went into work tomorrow and told them that I
was going to arbitrarily decide which tasks I will and will not do
simply based upon how I'm feeling that day my ass would (rightfully)
be kicked to the curb. You see, people generally don't like it when
they pay you for a service and you tell them to (figurative) go eff
themselves.

Oh, and the government of the United States does not legally recognize
any deity, ergo it should not, ever, be the basis for any form of
legislation.

You are a full of sheeit!

Freedom to Choose

Now fed govt has killed off the Recreational Vehicles Industry in
America.fed govt SUCKS!!!
www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29801804
cuhulin

Freedom to Choose

On Mar 20, 4:37*pm, "Clave"
wrote:
wrote in message

...

...

If you doubt this, witness the effort by the Obama Administration to
get rid of a Health and Human Services rule that ensures the
conscience rights of medical professionals as far as abortion is
concerned...

What whiny-ass titty-baby horse****.

- Medicine is practiced for the benefit of the patient, not the
practicioner.

Medicine is Practiced by the Practicioner.
.... and patients come to the Practitioner
for h-e-l-p.

- If the "professionals" don't have the "conscience"
- for the job, there's always work at the Post Office.
-
- Jim

Jim - So Take Your Own Advise . . . and go to
the Post Office for your next 'operation'
--- after all they give free stamps with every
organ replacement ~ RHF

(OT) : Who Are The Christians -was- Without the Freedom to Choose

On Mar 21, 2:54*pm, Day Brown wrote:
m II wrote:
Day Brown wrote:

And ignorant to boot. The treaty of Tripoli, signed by President John
Adams, and ratified by 100% of the US senate says "The United States
is not a Christian nation." How did we become one?

You haven't. Judging by the invasions, torture chambers and death camps,
I'd say you are the farthest removed thing from Christianity.

Who getsta define the term? From what Gibbon has to say, hypocrisy
characterized the church even from the days of the martyrs. For example,
Commodus, of all people, hadda call out the legions to stop the
followers of Bishops Athenasius and Arian from butchering each
other in the streets of Carthage. Each was utterly convinced the
other had the definition wrong.

Then, too, when Polemus circulated his criticism of well known
pagan prophets and clerics, people were just appalled. Only the
Christians did that sort of thing. Hence we have "polemic".

- Would you care to outline for us who the true Christians are?

Dear Lord God {Father} . . .
I Know That I am A Sinner . . .
In Jesus' Name I Pray --- Amen
http://www.sinner-prayer.com/
http://www.gotquestions.org/sinners-prayer.html

-but- The ObamaSpeakers© will be glad to tell you
who are the 'true' Christians according to Karl Marx.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Marx